Venom, his weakness sucks.
Hobgoblin because he looks cool
Venom really worked best as a villain and Roddy is great. But neither is underrated are they.
the spot.
Solid choice.
Yeah, he really hasn't been all that relevant as a major Spider-Man villain since DeMatteis' run on Spectacular post-Clone Saga. Even Chameleon Conspiracy wasn't really about him, it was about Fixer and Teresa.
In general trought spidey history he wasnt that big a deal outside of a brief spot in the 90s and with jenkins, outside of that he's just kind of a less versatile mytsterio.
Yeah, he really hasn't been all that relevant as a major Spider-Man villain since DeMatteis' run on Spectacular post-Clone Saga. Even Chameleon Conspiracy wasn't really about him, it was about Fixer and Teresa.
The Finisher, I mean, not Fixer. In fact, Chameleon Conspiracy potentially watered down Chameleon by turning him into one of many. I guess the problem is that at his best he's more based around his wit and the psychological damage he can do which makes him perfect for writers like DeMatteis and even Conway, less so for most other writers.
Yeah, he really hasn't been all that relevant as a major Spider-Man villain since DeMatteis' run on Spectacular post-Clone Saga. Even Chameleon Conspiracy wasn't really about him, it was about Fixer and Teresa.
OP here, that made me kek.
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Venom really worked best as a villain and Roddy is great. But neither is underrated are they.
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Solid choice.
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In general trought spidey history he wasnt that big a deal outside of a brief spot in the 90s and with jenkins, outside of that he's just kind of a less versatile mytsterio.
I think both Weisman and Slott had a great idea of teaming up Chameleon and Mysterio. Thesw 2 are kinda great for each other. Their banter was also great. Shame they stopped with it and then Spencer decided to go for "Woe is me" Mysterio which also worked for one story. But everybody always ignores that one story also implies that Mysterio is borderline another personality and not just an act.
Also, question: is Mysterio underrated? He is regularly and had some classic stories, but many people can't get over fishbowl.
Well Weisman had it be something in their past, and cham only has one actual villain apperaence, being more a part in Norman's plan outside of that. Tying tinkerer with mysterio was clever too. Ill give slott credit in that he did give them good banter. Spencer's idea was just weird, even the webspinner's story didnt shy away from presenting beck as being dangerous, and by that point Beck had been complicit or masterminded awful stuff morally.
He has appeared in almost all major adaptations of the character, and gets a lot of to do, as well as a bunch of sucessors. I'd say he doesnt quite fit the bill. Do feel that if mysterio knew who spidey was then he'd be far higher on the totem pole.
The overshadowing by a bigger villain's abilities that happens with mysterio and chamaleon also happens with the goblins and vulture i'd say.
Chance is really awesome and I was glad Spencer used him so much in his run. He doesn't need to be a major villain but his gambling addict persona and all of his jobs basically being him betting on himself and generally being a graceful loser because that's just what happens when you take a risk makes for a pretty fun C-list guy.
there isn't a lot of variety in how Spider-man's A-list rogues and a lot of his B-list rogues approach combat. it's either "elemental being that is stupidly strong" (sandman, electro, hydroman, molten man) "big fricking brute" (rhino, lizard, arguably kraven) or "dude that can fly" (green goblin, vulture, also electro in some incarnations)
in that respect someone like Mysterio or Chameleon really stands out but that also means you can't pop them in the usual formula.
The Hispanic is my favourite Spider-Man villain, Hydro Man is my pick for underrated tho, I love Spot but people always seem to think he's underrated despite pretty much always having people say 'I love Spot', every single villain thread
An obscure one from the 2000s named Marvel Editorial.
OP here, that made me kek.
Venom really worked best as a villain and Roddy is great. But neither is underrated are they.
Solid choice.
In general trought spidey history he wasnt that big a deal outside of a brief spot in the 90s and with jenkins, outside of that he's just kind of a less versatile mytsterio.
>Marvel Editorial.
>obscure
They've been the main villain for a decade now.
Based, also Fusion
Top tier
His writers.
I was going to post this as well. Anyone who is assigned to write Spider-Man long-term gets vilified eventually and with reason.
the spot.
Venom, his weakness sucks.
Hobgoblin because he looks cool
Chameleon
Yeah, he really hasn't been all that relevant as a major Spider-Man villain since DeMatteis' run on Spectacular post-Clone Saga. Even Chameleon Conspiracy wasn't really about him, it was about Fixer and Teresa.
The Finisher, I mean, not Fixer. In fact, Chameleon Conspiracy potentially watered down Chameleon by turning him into one of many. I guess the problem is that at his best he's more based around his wit and the psychological damage he can do which makes him perfect for writers like DeMatteis and even Conway, less so for most other writers.
I think both Weisman and Slott had a great idea of teaming up Chameleon and Mysterio. Thesw 2 are kinda great for each other. Their banter was also great. Shame they stopped with it and then Spencer decided to go for "Woe is me" Mysterio which also worked for one story. But everybody always ignores that one story also implies that Mysterio is borderline another personality and not just an act.
Also, question: is Mysterio underrated? He is regularly and had some classic stories, but many people can't get over fishbowl.
Well Weisman had it be something in their past, and cham only has one actual villain apperaence, being more a part in Norman's plan outside of that. Tying tinkerer with mysterio was clever too. Ill give slott credit in that he did give them good banter. Spencer's idea was just weird, even the webspinner's story didnt shy away from presenting beck as being dangerous, and by that point Beck had been complicit or masterminded awful stuff morally.
He has appeared in almost all major adaptations of the character, and gets a lot of to do, as well as a bunch of sucessors. I'd say he doesnt quite fit the bill. Do feel that if mysterio knew who spidey was then he'd be far higher on the totem pole.
The overshadowing by a bigger villain's abilities that happens with mysterio and chamaleon also happens with the goblins and vulture i'd say.
I quite enjoy Chance and The Foreigner from the 80s stuff
Huh, never heard anyone liking foreigner before, intresting.
He's not my favourite by any means but I enjoyed the stories he was a part of
That's totally fair, just a surprising pick.
If i had to say one i'd probably lean on Black Tarantula, he's by far the coolest of the tarantula characters.
Chance is really awesome and I was glad Spencer used him so much in his run. He doesn't need to be a major villain but his gambling addict persona and all of his jobs basically being him betting on himself and generally being a graceful loser because that's just what happens when you take a risk makes for a pretty fun C-list guy.
Actually, that's part of the reason I like Joystick too. Thrill seeker villains are just fun.
She's cool!
Might have been a better fit for Beetle's team than Girl Trapster, who is still pretty much a non-entity outside of "obsessed with phone."
there isn't a lot of variety in how Spider-man's A-list rogues and a lot of his B-list rogues approach combat. it's either "elemental being that is stupidly strong" (sandman, electro, hydroman, molten man) "big fricking brute" (rhino, lizard, arguably kraven) or "dude that can fly" (green goblin, vulture, also electro in some incarnations)
in that respect someone like Mysterio or Chameleon really stands out but that also means you can't pop them in the usual formula.
fix them
Tarantula is back to life and a normal dude with pointy shoes again.
I think Wisp was last shown being forced by Carnage to go after Deadpool, who beat him, Freak, and Conundrum.
Use black tarantula instead.
Wisp is fine.
Tarantula's always been pretty boring tbh.
Hush, bad take.
The Hispanic is my favourite Spider-Man villain, Hydro Man is my pick for underrated tho, I love Spot but people always seem to think he's underrated despite pretty much always having people say 'I love Spot', every single villain thread
White Rabbit, still #1 in our hearts.
Also Carolyn Trainer and Shathra are pretty cool.
Bring her back you cowards!
>bring back OC Slott created in a story where peter acted out of character and became paparazzi
no thanks slott
have sex