We've allowed twitter threads for so long that this was an inevitability.
modern youtubers will literally draw themselves doing a derogatory wojak meme completely normally because they have severe brain rot
>modern youtubers will literally draw themselves doing a derogatory wojak meme completely normally because they have severe brain rot
Actually it's because Youtube literally tells them to. One of their creator guidelines is to stick a overly reacting face in the thumbnail.
>Actually it's because Youtube literally tells them to
just because youtube's leftist curated algorithm is garbage doesn't mean they have to soiface to the point where you can't even tell if a video is satirical or not
It’s worse than that, video essays used to at least be made by college educated people on niche topics. Now it’s a bunch of high school grads who can barely grasp simple ideas from introductory college classes. The videos are just extended rants about thing bad because [insert most lukewarm random buzzword] Indian tutorial videos are unironically more educational.
It's cute that Cinemaphile homosexuals are looking down their noses at zoomers' attention spans as if Cinemaphile wasn't the home of tl;dr illiterates who sperg out about redditspacing whenever anyone puts in more than one paragraph.
I mean, it's not wrong. Everytime I see a new "adult cartoon" that tries to be Family Guy knockoff, I just close my tab. It's worse when they start copying Family Guys art style and think that's the standard.
>Mature adult show with mostly intelligent jokes
Cancelled after 13 episodes >Immature adult shows with lots of pee pee poo poo jokes
Still in air after 20 years
Immature shows sell more, no need a 26 minute video to explain that
>Mary Shelly's Frankenhole is still cancelled
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And thanks for being the only other anon who likes Mr. Hell Show. I thought I'm the only one.
adult show with mostly intelligent jokes >Cancelled after 13 episodes
Hey, look on the bright side, some of them might get lucky like Moral Orel and get 3 whole seasons.
That's something, eh?
I love that the same people that constantly complain about how shitty and immature western cartoons are gobble down mountains of shonenshit/FOTM SoLs aimed at teenagers and edgy garbage that they think is "mature" because there's gore and swearing
Not that they're wrong, but animated adult entertainment on the whole is a laughing stock, and like anons have said already, the truly good shit either goes unnoticed or dies young.
This is the dumbest argument I've heard here since January.
Dismissing the entirety of Eastern Animation because some shows are directed at a younger audience is like dismissing film because there are shitty movies.
The point is that American cartoons that are made today (for adults) are complete dogshit. If you can't accept that fact then you're moronic.
>dismissing an entire nation's body of work is dumb >proceeds to do exactly that
I never said all eastern animation was bad. I said anime wanking homosexuals like OP and you who shit on all western media always consume the worst lowest common denominator bullshit for manchildren
I could try listing off some high quality adult animation from the west but you'd just handwave it so I won't bother, you're obviously set in your generalized convictions and happy watching shows for kids
>I could try listing off some high quality adult animation from the west but you'd just handwave it so I won't bother, you're obviously set in your generalized convictions and happy watching shows for kids
You will list indie stuff and obscure movies and they I can list japanese indie stuff and obscure movies as well. Don't you get it? The west has indie + movie while japan has indie+ movies+ actual good adult animated series that treat various subjects and it's just 1 fricking country while the west is gigantic and it still has more adult animation that is worth watching.
Okay. Name 1 Western cartoon show currently airing right now without poop-humor.
Because I could list 10 anime that meet this criterion at the top of my head:
- Trigun: Stampede
- Buddy Daddies
- Ars no Kyojuu
- The Legend of Heroes: Northern War
- Revenger
- Kaina of the Great Snow Sea
- Sorcerous Stabber Orphen -Chaos in Urbanrama
- Tokyo Revengers
- Mononogatari
- Vindland Saga
>lists a bunch of shonenshit
Your shows aren't mature because they don't have shitty humor, there's lots of ways to be bad
And once again I keep looping back to the fact that I never once defended western animation, just that animegays have their heads up their asses when it comes to their preferred media.
I hope VB counts as "currently airing" since it's getting a flick
a bunch of shonenshit
Anon, he literally just listed a bunch of shows that are airing this season, most of which aren't even shonen, and half of which are originals that aren't based on anything to begin with.
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Anonymous
The only manga on his list I've actually read any part of is Vinland Saga, as I'm a big GK fan and hoped it would be a similarly interesting history based manga, but it turned out to be nigh indistinguishable from all the other shonen slop I've seen peddled by normalgays everywhere
Amazing that GK manages to be far more immature and raunchy than most of it's contemporaries yet still tells a far more compelling, interesting and educational story
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>The only manga on his list I've actually read any part of is Vinland Saga
Again, half of those are anime originals, and thus don't have a manga.
And Vinland Saga is one of those stories that starts out great but then goes to shit because the author has some kind of "epiphany" (in this case he went to Sweden and they gave him a brainworm) and decides he wants to go full 180 from the best part of the story (the farmland slave arc) and turn it into a stupid battle shonen.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>GK
Gk is worse Winnetou so you have shit taste.
1 year ago
Anonymous
GK is an amazing manga with a unique story, engaging characters and oodles of intriguing historical information for anyone fascinated in Ainu culture and 20th century Japan
1 year ago
Anonymous
>GK is an amazing manga with a unique story, engaging characters and oodles of intriguing historical information for anyone fascinated in Ainu culture and 20th century Japan
Basically Winnetou with ainus instead of indians and shitty jap instead of old shatterhand.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>GK is an amazing manga with a unique story, engaging characters and oodles of intriguing historical information for anyone fascinated in Ainu culture and 20th century Japan
Basically Winnetou with ainus instead of indians and shitty jap instead of old shatterhand.
>I could try listing off some high quality adult animation from the west but you'd just handwave it so I won't bother, you're obviously set in your generalized convictions and happy watching shows for kids
You will list indie stuff and obscure movies and they I can list japanese indie stuff and obscure movies as well. Don't you get it? The west has indie + movie while japan has indie+ movies+ actual good adult animated series that treat various subjects and it's just 1 fricking country while the west is gigantic and it still has more adult animation that is worth watching.
Why? Are you afraid to recognize the truth? That weebBlack folk are allowed to act arrogant because Japan has produced a hugher quantity of actually good adult animation in spite of being a little nation?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Japan has produced a hugher quantity of actually good adult animation in spite of being a little nation
Name some adult animation from Japan?
Not things that are for teenagers, actual marketed to adult shows, because very few exist.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I been watching anime for 2 decades and I only counted 23 out of 257 shows I've watched, I would personally call adult.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Name some adult animation from Japan?
He has never heard of Seinen...
1 year ago
Anonymous
Seinen stuff is still mostly just teenager crap with an edge.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
>manga
He said anime, and Y& is more likely to be enjoyed by a parent, you know an adult, than a teenager.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>NOOOOOO >ADULT SHOWS CAN'T STAR KIDS >IT NEEDS TO HAVE SEX, VIOLENCE AND POLITICS
I pity you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Grave of the Fireflies
Wow such a great.....boring movie that's just feelsbait.
At least post the good WW2 anime.
1 year ago
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of Fireflies >Wow such a great.....boring movie
Way to out yourself anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>At least post the good WW2 anime.
But if I post it I will embarrass /co./ even further. Not to mention that there are some even better ww2 animated movies that were never translated in the west
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Anonymous
>because very few exist.
Those few are more than the entire west has produced so it's ok. >I been watching anime for 2 decades and I only counted 23 out of 257 shows I've watched, I would personally call adult.
And I've counted maybe 4 adult western animated shows and if you count my childhood I have watched more then 200 by now.
We don't need cartoons to be overly serious and mature, that's what live action for, you're an adult not everything needs to be animated, people missing out on a lot because they're autistic brains are scared of real people.
>We don't need cartoons to be overly serious and mature, that's what live action for
Or, you can have both serious and mature cartoons AND over-the-top and wacky live-action.
This kind of shit is why your medium isn't taken seriously and why the "animation industry" in America collectively shits their pants in rage whenever the Oscars makes a joke at their expense.
Oscars always sucked no matter who they pick animated or live action.
Cartoons can be whatever people want them to be sure but the medium of animation works best in some type of stories better and that's how it is, get over it.
Nah, you're moronic.
Again, this is why your medium is a joke.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Animation isn't my medium but ok.
Cartoons will be fine, people will always do all types of shit with it and who cares about the opinions of the public just watch shit you want cuz you like it, you're adult.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Animation isn't my medium but ok.
Animation is as separate from film as comics are from books.
1 year ago
Anonymous
At the end of the day it's all just entertainment to tell stories, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
There's no point in complaining and being negative because you don't like a bunch of current things, you got a whole backlog and maybe some new stuff will come out you will like also like before you got live action and other mediums to keep you company so who gives a shit.
But they have decaded of actually adult anime that is better than 99.99% of all adult cartoons, the rest 0,01% is european indie/arthouse production. Shounen/sol is for teenagers indeed.
Eh, the maxx is good but there is plenty of japanese animation that I liked more. I still have to give it credit for doing the comic to animation transition almost perfectly.
yeah but that's every single "adult" cartoon in america, they are all sitcoms there would be no issue if there were comedies and other cartoons that have more mature themes that don't rely only on comedy
>video goes into the history of how cartoons were pitched to adult viewers >talks about why adult humor is what it is today >posts don't go further than talking about the title card
The West can't animate or write, so they have to compensate for that by making comedies. Americans "adults" are mentally stunted so they only understand violence- and toilet humor.
Coach: Brendon some person with an ugly self insert cartoon drawing of themselves is complaining about comedy cartoons being childish....
Brendon: Isn't that kinda of the point of cartoons?
Coach: Yeah I guess it is but these autistic zoomers, no offense can't seem to get it. stupid well when done right = funny.
Brendom: Yeah I mean our show pretty stupid at times isn't it?
Coach: Please don't remind me please......oh god.
Brendon: Man people just love to complain don't they.
Coach: I sure do I mean I'm complaining about someone complaining, ironic huh.
Brendon: Well I could complain about that. >Home Movies outro theme
>Mainstream
is true >outside the mainstream
Anime and cartoon watchers don't watch anything outside the mainstream and it's hard to take their opinion seriously
>Someone proves them wrong in these threads. >They spreg out.
We get it you use to be bullied and you're taking out on us but now you're shit mainstream so get over it and enjoy that you're not bullied about anymore.
We should've kept bullying anime fans.
proves them wrong in these threads. >>They spreg out.
Nice joke but it's impossible to prove us wrong. Take any period, for example 2005-2007 and for adult cartoons you have :comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy while for adult anime you have: comedy, heist, detective, cyberpunk etc. And you can do that for every period, it's quite embarrassing.
Why do zoomers expect you to listen to video essays instead of just typing out their own opinions?
Because pic related
>WHAT NORMO WANTS
>NORMO GETS
This. Honestly it's easier to stomach video essays because it can be put on in the background. People really like background noise of people talking.
yeah
Fricking ADHD having homosexual. Be patient.
If valuing my time means I have ADHD, frick it I have ADHD
I would rather read all day that hear a single video essay.
Gore, swearing, and sex that's all it takes for a cartoon to be considered for teens to be for adults
meant for
Because Americans don't like to read. It's not even only a zoomer thing, either, millennials are just as bad in that regard.
They do it because it makes them money. Why aren't (you) making video essays and profiting from them?
I didn't ask why people make them you simp homosexual. I asked why zoomers think youtube videos are a good format for discussion.
>zoomers
Zoomers did not invent video essays, you brain-rotted moron.
Why do you insist on replying to my posts without actually responding to what I'm saying?
Years of people going tl;dr.
Video essays you can at least play in the background while you do other shit.
>quads of common sense.
Video essays, along with podcasts, gives something other than music to play in the background
That's what music is for.
Where would they do that and get paid for that? Also, writing an article is harder than narrating (most of) these videos.
I'm referring to the morons who post these kinds of videos on this website and expect people to actually give a shit,
We've allowed twitter threads for so long that this was an inevitability.
>modern youtubers will literally draw themselves doing a derogatory wojak meme completely normally because they have severe brain rot
Actually it's because Youtube literally tells them to. One of their creator guidelines is to stick a overly reacting face in the thumbnail.
>Actually it's because Youtube literally tells them to
just because youtube's leftist curated algorithm is garbage doesn't mean they have to soiface to the point where you can't even tell if a video is satirical or not
Because they think they know better.
and intelligence is dropping in the U.S. and parts of Europe because of it. part of the idiocracy is not reading
They don’t want to learn either, even if they read, they’ll disregard things that is foreign to them as useless then cocoon themselves with morals.
Because of WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS
It’s worse than that, video essays used to at least be made by college educated people on niche topics. Now it’s a bunch of high school grads who can barely grasp simple ideas from introductory college classes. The videos are just extended rants about thing bad because [insert most lukewarm random buzzword] Indian tutorial videos are unironically more educational.
It's cute that Cinemaphile homosexuals are looking down their noses at zoomers' attention spans as if Cinemaphile wasn't the home of tl;dr illiterates who sperg out about redditspacing whenever anyone puts in more than one paragraph.
>talking to a thing as if it were a person
this is so obnoxious
Why is that "adult" using a childish cartoon avatar?
>female
Loool
I dont know who this is. Probably a troony
but
I really appreciate the childish caricature of the youtuber to set up the contradictions of this video essay.
why do you gays assume every girl online is actually trans? is encountering women that uncommon for you people?
There are no girls on the internet, etc.
It's the anime pfp or persona that makes it a 50/50
Trannies are terminally online and spread themselves to every space possible
rent free
Because they're all writer-driven and don't actually have cartooning in them. We need another Ralph Bakshi.
God please, we gotta bring dem breasts back!
I mean, it's not wrong. Everytime I see a new "adult cartoon" that tries to be Family Guy knockoff, I just close my tab. It's worse when they start copying Family Guys art style and think that's the standard.
An actual woman or a troony? The basedness of its opinion depends on your answer.
She's legit
>Mature adult show with mostly intelligent jokes
Cancelled after 13 episodes
>Immature adult shows with lots of pee pee poo poo jokes
Still in air after 20 years
Immature shows sell more, no need a 26 minute video to explain that
>Mary Shelly's Frankenhole is still cancelled
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And thanks for being the only other anon who likes Mr. Hell Show. I thought I'm the only one.
adult show with mostly intelligent jokes
>Cancelled after 13 episodes
Hey, look on the bright side, some of them might get lucky like Moral Orel and get 3 whole seasons.
That's something, eh?
>saves western animation
The success of this show will single handedly change how adult animation in the west is handled going forward.
>it's adult because it has gore
It's part of the problem, frick off with your awful capeshit. The bubble can't burst soon enough.
give me an example of a good adult cartoon then Mr. Gucci Loafers
Even if you remove the gore scenes that still isn't a show for kids you moron.
modern youtubers will literally draw themselves doing a derogatory wojak meme completely normally because they have severe brain rot
I wish zoomers were exterminated
I love that the same people that constantly complain about how shitty and immature western cartoons are gobble down mountains of shonenshit/FOTM SoLs aimed at teenagers and edgy garbage that they think is "mature" because there's gore and swearing
Not that they're wrong, but animated adult entertainment on the whole is a laughing stock, and like anons have said already, the truly good shit either goes unnoticed or dies young.
I rather deal with kiddy shonens then whatever the frick America considers "adult cartoon".
>I rather deal with kiddy shonens
Probably because you're a brain-rotted third worlder troony.
This is the dumbest argument I've heard here since January.
Dismissing the entirety of Eastern Animation because some shows are directed at a younger audience is like dismissing film because there are shitty movies.
The point is that American cartoons that are made today (for adults) are complete dogshit. If you can't accept that fact then you're moronic.
>dismissing an entire nation's body of work is dumb
>proceeds to do exactly that
I never said all eastern animation was bad. I said anime wanking homosexuals like OP and you who shit on all western media always consume the worst lowest common denominator bullshit for manchildren
I could try listing off some high quality adult animation from the west but you'd just handwave it so I won't bother, you're obviously set in your generalized convictions and happy watching shows for kids
>I could try listing off some high quality adult animation from the west but you'd just handwave it so I won't bother, you're obviously set in your generalized convictions and happy watching shows for kids
You will list indie stuff and obscure movies and they I can list japanese indie stuff and obscure movies as well. Don't you get it? The west has indie + movie while japan has indie+ movies+ actual good adult animated series that treat various subjects and it's just 1 fricking country while the west is gigantic and it still has more adult animation that is worth watching.
Okay. Name 1 Western cartoon show currently airing right now without poop-humor.
Because I could list 10 anime that meet this criterion at the top of my head:
- Trigun: Stampede
- Buddy Daddies
- Ars no Kyojuu
- The Legend of Heroes: Northern War
- Revenger
- Kaina of the Great Snow Sea
- Sorcerous Stabber Orphen -Chaos in Urbanrama
- Tokyo Revengers
- Mononogatari
- Vindland Saga
>lists a bunch of shonenshit
Your shows aren't mature because they don't have shitty humor, there's lots of ways to be bad
And once again I keep looping back to the fact that I never once defended western animation, just that animegays have their heads up their asses when it comes to their preferred media.
I hope VB counts as "currently airing" since it's getting a flick
a bunch of shonenshit
Anon, he literally just listed a bunch of shows that are airing this season, most of which aren't even shonen, and half of which are originals that aren't based on anything to begin with.
The only manga on his list I've actually read any part of is Vinland Saga, as I'm a big GK fan and hoped it would be a similarly interesting history based manga, but it turned out to be nigh indistinguishable from all the other shonen slop I've seen peddled by normalgays everywhere
Amazing that GK manages to be far more immature and raunchy than most of it's contemporaries yet still tells a far more compelling, interesting and educational story
>The only manga on his list I've actually read any part of is Vinland Saga
Again, half of those are anime originals, and thus don't have a manga.
And Vinland Saga is one of those stories that starts out great but then goes to shit because the author has some kind of "epiphany" (in this case he went to Sweden and they gave him a brainworm) and decides he wants to go full 180 from the best part of the story (the farmland slave arc) and turn it into a stupid battle shonen.
>GK
Gk is worse Winnetou so you have shit taste.
GK is an amazing manga with a unique story, engaging characters and oodles of intriguing historical information for anyone fascinated in Ainu culture and 20th century Japan
>GK is an amazing manga with a unique story, engaging characters and oodles of intriguing historical information for anyone fascinated in Ainu culture and 20th century Japan
Basically Winnetou with ainus instead of indians and shitty jap instead of old shatterhand.
I don't think you've read either Winnetou or GK
You didn’t even respond to
Why? Are you afraid to recognize the truth? That weebBlack folk are allowed to act arrogant because Japan has produced a hugher quantity of actually good adult animation in spite of being a little nation?
>Japan has produced a hugher quantity of actually good adult animation in spite of being a little nation
Name some adult animation from Japan?
Not things that are for teenagers, actual marketed to adult shows, because very few exist.
I been watching anime for 2 decades and I only counted 23 out of 257 shows I've watched, I would personally call adult.
>Name some adult animation from Japan?
He has never heard of Seinen...
Seinen stuff is still mostly just teenager crap with an edge.
>manga
He said anime, and Y& is more likely to be enjoyed by a parent, you know an adult, than a teenager.
>NOOOOOO
>ADULT SHOWS CAN'T STAR KIDS
>IT NEEDS TO HAVE SEX, VIOLENCE AND POLITICS
I pity you.
>Grave of the Fireflies
Wow such a great.....boring movie that's just feelsbait.
At least post the good WW2 anime.
of Fireflies
>Wow such a great.....boring movie
Way to out yourself anon.
>At least post the good WW2 anime.
But if I post it I will embarrass /co./ even further. Not to mention that there are some even better ww2 animated movies that were never translated in the west
>because very few exist.
Those few are more than the entire west has produced so it's ok.
>I been watching anime for 2 decades and I only counted 23 out of 257 shows I've watched, I would personally call adult.
And I've counted maybe 4 adult western animated shows and if you count my childhood I have watched more then 200 by now.
>I hope VB counts as "currently airing"
/co/pers have the lowest of IQ:s.
Is it currently airing? No. Therefore it doesn't count as currently airing.
Also, it's Venture Bros is poop-humor.
redditor
2 of those anime’s are remakes where the originals did have poop humor on occasion.
We don't need cartoons to be overly serious and mature, that's what live action for, you're an adult not everything needs to be animated, people missing out on a lot because they're autistic brains are scared of real people.
>We don't need cartoons to be overly serious and mature, that's what live action for
Or, you can have both serious and mature cartoons AND over-the-top and wacky live-action.
This kind of shit is why your medium isn't taken seriously and why the "animation industry" in America collectively shits their pants in rage whenever the Oscars makes a joke at their expense.
Oscars always sucked no matter who they pick animated or live action.
Cartoons can be whatever people want them to be sure but the medium of animation works best in some type of stories better and that's how it is, get over it.
Nah, you're moronic.
Again, this is why your medium is a joke.
Animation isn't my medium but ok.
Cartoons will be fine, people will always do all types of shit with it and who cares about the opinions of the public just watch shit you want cuz you like it, you're adult.
>Animation isn't my medium but ok.
Animation is as separate from film as comics are from books.
At the end of the day it's all just entertainment to tell stories, anon.
There's no point in complaining and being negative because you don't like a bunch of current things, you got a whole backlog and maybe some new stuff will come out you will like also like before you got live action and other mediums to keep you company so who gives a shit.
>Cartoons can be whatever people want them to be
>except actually no
But they have decaded of actually adult anime that is better than 99.99% of all adult cartoons, the rest 0,01% is european indie/arthouse production. Shounen/sol is for teenagers indeed.
The Maxx is still great work adult animation, I've ever seen no adult anime I personally seen top it though I do love Bartender great show.
It's appealing for sure, especially the story.
Eh, the maxx is good but there is plenty of japanese animation that I liked more. I still have to give it credit for doing the comic to animation transition almost perfectly.
>complains about comedy cartoons being childish
yeah but that's every single "adult" cartoon in america, they are all sitcoms there would be no issue if there were comedies and other cartoons that have more mature themes that don't rely only on comedy
Looks like Hilda
why is she so small
Hilda is smol, you expand spell won’t work on her.
I thought the same, is the hat
>video goes into the history of how cartoons were pitched to adult viewers
>talks about why adult humor is what it is today
>posts don't go further than talking about the title card
Frick your stupid video, troony shill
>a history
So completely made up chain of events like zoomers always do for some reason?
>Why are Western "Adult" cartoons bad?
>Why are Western cartoons bad?
>Why are cartoons bad?
>Why is media worldwide, in all formats, mostly bad?
Because most people are idiots.
The West can't animate or write, so they have to compensate for that by making comedies. Americans "adults" are mentally stunted so they only understand violence- and toilet humor.
your japanese shit ain't better
It is because it's not just comedy, let alone comedy directed at 4 year-olds.
>when show doesn't have pedo main character
Coach: Brendon some person with an ugly self insert cartoon drawing of themselves is complaining about comedy cartoons being childish....
Brendon: Isn't that kinda of the point of cartoons?
Coach: Yeah I guess it is but these autistic zoomers, no offense can't seem to get it. stupid well when done right = funny.
Brendom: Yeah I mean our show pretty stupid at times isn't it?
Coach: Please don't remind me please......oh god.
Brendon: Man people just love to complain don't they.
Coach: I sure do I mean I'm complaining about someone complaining, ironic huh.
Brendon: Well I could complain about that.
>Home Movies outro theme
HAHA
>Cartoon Youtubers.
>Mainstream
is true
>outside the mainstream
Anime and cartoon watchers don't watch anything outside the mainstream and it's hard to take their opinion seriously
>Jesus Christ that giant witch turned that man’s fingers into pickles!
Cartoons are for children
"Adult" cartoons are for man children
I am so tired of animegays shoving their shit down everyone's throats in every single corner of the internet
>Someone proves them wrong in these threads.
>They spreg out.
We get it you use to be bullied and you're taking out on us but now you're shit mainstream so get over it and enjoy that you're not bullied about anymore.
We should've kept bullying anime fans.
proves them wrong in these threads.
>>They spreg out.
Nice joke but it's impossible to prove us wrong. Take any period, for example 2005-2007 and for adult cartoons you have :comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy while for adult anime you have: comedy, heist, detective, cyberpunk etc. And you can do that for every period, it's quite embarrassing.
>shit for morons
>shit for morons, but different genres
what if cartoons had
Cartoontubers are so cringe