Even if that was the most beautiful woman in the world, what's the point? She's going to hit the wall in 10 years. It's like going to war over cream cheese.
They were going to war over property theft. She was Agamemnon's wife and therefore his property to do with what he pleased. The coward Paris accepted Agamemnon's hospitality then absconded with his property. If you let someone stay with you and he stole your TV, wouldn't you go beat his ass and take it back, even though you'll just get a better one in 5-10 years?
It wasn't even totally about that.
Helen was the heiress of Sparta, and Menelaus' rulership of the city was legitimate through her. On top of that, when most of the heroes of the later Trojan war were pursuing her hand in marriage they were all temporarily living as suitors in Sparta. Helen's father made all of his daughters' suitors swear that they would honour the one he chose to be her husband as a brother and join him in his wars, before deciding who her husband would be.
People who say "duhhh why would dey go to war for a heckin roastie haha" are literal morons that haven't read Homer, or even cliffnotes about the context of the story.
Just an instance of some autistic royalty that finally got his dick wet, couldnt fathom the idea of just getting pussy when he got home so kidnapped a girl.
Pussy isnt worth it, regardless who its attached to
If you seriously think stealing one's king's wife is an "unrealistic" casus belli for a war, then you're a historylet. Even if you set aside that it's a myth to begin with, irl history had much more moronic sparks that caused conflicts.
There is also a whole discourse about hospitality (sacred to Zeus, see also the Odissey) and more importantly a chain of duty both on the Achaeans part (they all chased Helen in the past, then swore to protect the marriage of the guy who would get her) and on Priam part to host Paris because is a relative even if he's a moronic gorilla Black person.
Even in the movie they point out that there were other motives for starting the war (Agamemnon's greed, a vague Hittite threat, honor, glory, etc). Helen was just the catalyst. If she remained true, some other moronic thing would have sparked it all off.
She is a perfect nordic aryan specimen. She embodies absolute perfection in this movie. You just don't see it because of Muttification and Black person standards.
In the original myth, she was the most beautiful woman in the world and Paris's reward for bestowing the golden fruit on Aphordite.
In the movie and with Diane Kruger in particular, it was just womanizing Paris falling for another man's wife and being too young and naïve to realize their actions had further reaching consequences than just themselves.
Her breasts were top-tier in that movie, in general really. Plus she does have a really beautiful face, I love her teeth, the thing she does with her mouth, can't explain it. Gorgeous eyes, accent and nose. 100% would go to war to frick her.
I disagree 180 degrees. This was the hottest she ever looked to me - not to say she wasn't hot in other films, she absolutely was, but still.
I mean yeah, seeing her ass on the big screen probably made a bit of an impression, but it wasn't just that.
Diane Kruger is absolutely a 10/10 in Troy. How people in this thread are trying to shit on her is hilarious to me. None of you have ever been in proximity of a woman of that level of hotness in your lives. You'd shit yourself on the spot.
It doesn't matter. If people would quit taking the fricking bait it probably wouldn't make the thread anymore. How stupid do you have to be to believe anyone would find Diane Fricking Kruger ugly?
Considering the population numbers at that time, there were fewer of those. The fact that they weren't puritygays is little more suprising though, they were affairs n shit with in ancient times.
Have you seen the average Greek woman?
And that is by today's standards. Now roll back the clock a few millennia. Historical context is a hell of a drug, OP. I'd buy it.
If you leave with another King's wife and take her to your city, then of course it's going to be war. It doesn't matter what she looks like. Show no weakness.
ATJ in Split was her peak, then she did a bunch of shit to her body and her boobs shrunk somehow. Looks like a high end prostitute now, but still adicted to illicit substances. I think Sarah Gadon might the prettiest actress right now.
Just meme'ing because of that post above mine. I'm actually indifferent on the subject as I've never fricked a israelite. Probably never will as they age poorly with camelface and I appreciate a good milf far too much.
Going off topic here but this is something that has been bothering me:
when you are terminally online like me you see a lot of images from the most beautiful women all around the world.
doesn't that just frick you up mentally? these are all women I never interact with ever, I don't even see them for a fleeting moment on the subway. but now my expectations of beauty are all messed up. women I see on the street that I would instantly fall in love with are "mid" now after I saw what kind of beauty exists.
Yes, anon, it does.
Humans evolved to seek out their neighbors. Their neighbors work, their bodies, their thoughts.
But now that literally everyone who speaks the same language as you do and is also terminally online is your neighbor, shit's become fricked.
not only did I develop unrealistic standards they are highly specific too
just being beautiful is not enough anymore she also needs to have the right eyes, nose shape, facial structure, eye brows, mouth shape...
before the internet OP would have made me feel awe but now I am like "naaaah she's not my type" lol
What's the solution? Interact with real people more? Will it make me snap out of these unrealistic ideals? Did any of you guys had to deal with this issue?
Yes. This only happens when you're obsessing over hypotheticals and idealized scenarios because as long as you're making shit up anyway there's no reason to be realistic. But if you actually meet a reasonably attractive woman who isn't up to your absurd standards it's not like your dick's going to nope out if she starts blowing you. The real world is always different than our fantasies but it's the only place you can actually do things
I find it's different in the real world.
People who might look amazing in pictures often look 'off' or fake in reality, a beautiful person standing next to you just hits different.
Yes this is the brown people dilemma. You see white people for the first time as some Gautemalan and simply become despondent with your race and have to move to their countries so you try to get with one.
you're never going to find a woman that actually fits a trumped up description like Helen of Troy or like, Luthien in Tolkien, they're described as so beautiful they're impossible.
That said Diane Kruger in her prime is beautiful
She was still a king's wife and the king got cucked. Would you declare war if you cucked by some effeminate twink? Menelaus had to make an example of them.
she ain't even season dat skin
Even if that was the most beautiful woman in the world, what's the point? She's going to hit the wall in 10 years. It's like going to war over cream cheese.
They were going to war over property theft. She was Agamemnon's wife and therefore his property to do with what he pleased. The coward Paris accepted Agamemnon's hospitality then absconded with his property. If you let someone stay with you and he stole your TV, wouldn't you go beat his ass and take it back, even though you'll just get a better one in 5-10 years?
She was Menelaus's wife
>She was Agamemnon's wife
moron
It was never about her beauty. Lmao.
She was his wife. Other guy literally kidnap her away and took her to Troy. Therefore war must happen.
She could have looked ugly and wouldn't matter. You kidnap away another man's wife then it's war.
It wasn't even totally about that.
Helen was the heiress of Sparta, and Menelaus' rulership of the city was legitimate through her. On top of that, when most of the heroes of the later Trojan war were pursuing her hand in marriage they were all temporarily living as suitors in Sparta. Helen's father made all of his daughters' suitors swear that they would honour the one he chose to be her husband as a brother and join him in his wars, before deciding who her husband would be.
People who say "duhhh why would dey go to war for a heckin roastie haha" are literal morons that haven't read Homer, or even cliffnotes about the context of the story.
Paris didn't only steal Helen, he also stole Menelaus' treasury.
Also this
the actual most beautiful woman in the world gets more beautiful every 10 years
She looked better at 22 moron.
Bug.
not even a human
yiked irl
Do people like you post these to troll or do you honestly not understand how plastic surgery and makeup works?
She's a demi-goddess and appears in the Odyssey which takes place 20 years after the Iliad, and Ulysses says she's still as beautiful as ever.
>Ulysses says she's still as beautiful as ever
lmao what a simp
In the director's cut you can see her knockers and they are big and juicy
They are fake, anon. Gotta need to level up your silicone breast detection game, anon.
Just an instance of some autistic royalty that finally got his dick wet, couldnt fathom the idea of just getting pussy when he got home so kidnapped a girl.
Pussy isnt worth it, regardless who its attached to
If you seriously think stealing one's king's wife is an "unrealistic" casus belli for a war, then you're a historylet. Even if you set aside that it's a myth to begin with, irl history had much more moronic sparks that caused conflicts.
There is also a whole discourse about hospitality (sacred to Zeus, see also the Odissey) and more importantly a chain of duty both on the Achaeans part (they all chased Helen in the past, then swore to protect the marriage of the guy who would get her) and on Priam part to host Paris because is a relative even if he's a moronic gorilla Black person.
Even in the movie they point out that there were other motives for starting the war (Agamemnon's greed, a vague Hittite threat, honor, glory, etc). Helen was just the catalyst. If she remained true, some other moronic thing would have sparked it all off.
Yeah, in Troy they have the scene where Agamemnon basically says "lmao I don't care about your wife but this is a great excuse for a war".
what's worse is that she was 10 times uglier IRL
Melanin is neurotoxic, I am sure about it after browsing this place.
yes.
yes and?
Name a woman prettier than her
ur mum
Leslie Jones for these fricking Zoomers.
Dude yeah
you just don't like her because she's really racist and you're a brown
She is a perfect nordic aryan specimen. She embodies absolute perfection in this movie. You just don't see it because of Muttification and Black person standards.
In the original myth, she was the most beautiful woman in the world and Paris's reward for bestowing the golden fruit on Aphordite.
In the movie and with Diane Kruger in particular, it was just womanizing Paris falling for another man's wife and being too young and naïve to realize their actions had further reaching consequences than just themselves.
It's caused by a lack of masturbation. Religion has a lot to answer for.
>everybody has the same beauty standards
>itt: unholy pooja-chud alliance
Her breasts were top-tier in that movie, in general really. Plus she does have a really beautiful face, I love her teeth, the thing she does with her mouth, can't explain it. Gorgeous eyes, accent and nose. 100% would go to war to frick her.
Post the ass scene at the start of the movie
I don't get really the shitposting on this thread anymore
Diane Kruger is super hot in everything else but she just looks so bland in Troy, I can't place my finger on why.
I disagree 180 degrees. This was the hottest she ever looked to me - not to say she wasn't hot in other films, she absolutely was, but still.
I mean yeah, seeing her ass on the big screen probably made a bit of an impression, but it wasn't just that.
Diane Kruger is absolutely a 10/10 in Troy. How people in this thread are trying to shit on her is hilarious to me. None of you have ever been in proximity of a woman of that level of hotness in your lives. You'd shit yourself on the spot.
>she just looks so bland in Troy
nah
>
go on, post a prettier face
>eyebrow dandruff
Turn the fleet around, we're heading bacm to port lads.
who keeps making this thread?
It doesn't matter. If people would quit taking the fricking bait it probably wouldn't make the thread anymore. How stupid do you have to be to believe anyone would find Diane Fricking Kruger ugly?
She's a solid 8/10.
Considering the population numbers at that time, there were fewer of those. The fact that they weren't puritygays is little more suprising though, they were affairs n shit with in ancient times.
Have you seen the average Greek woman?
And that is by today's standards. Now roll back the clock a few millennia. Historical context is a hell of a drug, OP. I'd buy it.
Omg i know, rite? She isn't even asian!
The war was less about her beauty and more about the king getting cucked.
The war started because Paris was a horny little frick face not because she was hot
>they were considered 10/10 twenty years ago
I still consider them 10/10 twenty years ago
They didn't start a war because she was beautiful. They started a war because one man disrespected another man and his family.
>t. Zendaya fan
If you leave with another King's wife and take her to your city, then of course it's going to be war. It doesn't matter what she looks like. Show no weakness.
Her ass was beautiful and I would wage war for her ass so I believe it
Every movie premise is bad. I have the best taste.
In that time with a lack of makeup and grooming? Prime Kruger definetly fits... but in mythological canon yeah she should be 20/10
Pic related is an example of a 20/10
maybe before she bogged herself.
gringo math
ATJ in Split was her peak, then she did a bunch of shit to her body and her boobs shrunk somehow. Looks like a high end prostitute now, but still adicted to illicit substances. I think Sarah Gadon might the prettiest actress right now.
this movie is like a fever dream of self inserts and fantasies, but it's still one of my favorite rom coms
Left or Right?
...Or both?
Right looks israeli.
Right. Looks israeli.
Dated one israeli girl and never will again. Neurotic and paranoid, jealous, just fricking annoying. They like to suck dick though.
Just meme'ing because of that post above mine. I'm actually indifferent on the subject as I've never fricked a israelite. Probably never will as they age poorly with camelface and I appreciate a good milf far too much.
Maybe I'm not so indifferent now that I reread my post.
Left for me.
The Aryan, always
poor Rosie getting mistaken for a israelite
Diane has some Polish ancestry, while Rose is entirely Celtic.
...It's more likely the other way around
Ancient poets refer to the battle of Troy as "A war fought over a c**t"
... Later translators usually translate that as "A war fought over a woman"
You don't mess with another King's family. Beautiful or not it doesn't matter.
Rachel Leigh Cook at her peak is ugly and unpopular because she wears glasses.
I personally would've chosen Becki Newton for pweddiest girl alive, but Diane Kruger is hot, she's fine as Helen.
crazy. she's not black, plus size or trans so i find the whole premise really unbelievable.
Going off topic here but this is something that has been bothering me:
when you are terminally online like me you see a lot of images from the most beautiful women all around the world.
doesn't that just frick you up mentally? these are all women I never interact with ever, I don't even see them for a fleeting moment on the subway. but now my expectations of beauty are all messed up. women I see on the street that I would instantly fall in love with are "mid" now after I saw what kind of beauty exists.
Yes, anon, it does.
Humans evolved to seek out their neighbors. Their neighbors work, their bodies, their thoughts.
But now that literally everyone who speaks the same language as you do and is also terminally online is your neighbor, shit's become fricked.
also I forgot to add:
not only did I develop unrealistic standards they are highly specific too
just being beautiful is not enough anymore she also needs to have the right eyes, nose shape, facial structure, eye brows, mouth shape...
before the internet OP would have made me feel awe but now I am like "naaaah she's not my type" lol
What's the solution? Interact with real people more? Will it make me snap out of these unrealistic ideals? Did any of you guys had to deal with this issue?
The way people look is such a tiny part of being 'Attractive'.
Most model-looking people become boring and obnoxious the second they open their mouths
i wouldnt call it tiny
it can't replace a good personality for me but a good personality with meh looks is still not romantically attractive
>Interact with real people more?
Yes. This only happens when you're obsessing over hypotheticals and idealized scenarios because as long as you're making shit up anyway there's no reason to be realistic. But if you actually meet a reasonably attractive woman who isn't up to your absurd standards it's not like your dick's going to nope out if she starts blowing you. The real world is always different than our fantasies but it's the only place you can actually do things
thanks Kermit
I find it's different in the real world.
People who might look amazing in pictures often look 'off' or fake in reality, a beautiful person standing next to you just hits different.
Yes this is the brown people dilemma. You see white people for the first time as some Gautemalan and simply become despondent with your race and have to move to their countries so you try to get with one.
Are you implying she's not pretty, because she's a perfect 10 in my book.
A big head, but that made her like a 9.5
How many times are you going to make this thread you homosexual
>the most beautiful woman in the world
Nowadays they'd cast Zendaya ...
you're never going to find a woman that actually fits a trumped up description like Helen of Troy or like, Luthien in Tolkien, they're described as so beautiful they're impossible.
That said Diane Kruger in her prime is beautiful
She was still a king's wife and the king got cucked. Would you declare war if you cucked by some effeminate twink? Menelaus had to make an example of them.
BURN TROY BURN TROY, BURN IT, BURN IT ALL
Here's your actual Helen, anon
I'm not even into blondes and I'd gladly wage war for a whiff of that coochie
the only woman who could realistically play Helen
the only thing she has the range to play is a sexdoll
Adriana was so hot brehs