per the patreon, the spine Khert hub is in some way specifically related to Cutter's plan
since there's Khert hubs all over, he can't want just any normal one. Is it because the queen or RFH (p'too p'too) is there, and he wants to exploit something with the hub? I had previously been under the impression it was the people at the part, and not the location, that was drawing him here
The mountain ogres came in all sizes. The ones that are most... intelligible to the human eye... are the smaller ones. Many of them are now literal mountains.
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ooooooh that's why they're called mountain ogres lol. I thought it was because they lived in the mountains. That's cute
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Nope, they literally became the mountains! Most of Kasslyne's earth is made of mountain ogre to begin with (albeit most of it has lost its Firstness).
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>Most of Kasslyne's earth
Isn't it all made out of ogres?
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The ogre's butt all the way down.
?t=20
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All earth is from Ogres but deep beneath Kasslyne are the "coldlands" which isn't made of them.
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Or so they say.
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Didn't the gods kill them by covering them with earth?
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No no, when the second world superceded the first world, the biggest most collosal mountain ogres couldn't sustain their own internal khert. This meant they, probably, painfully was converted into first earth. The smaller mountain ogres who didn't die, were all slowly crushed and suffocated by their bigger brethrens' corpses.
This is also partly why the continent doesn't really have earthquakes; they were caused by living ogres struggling to free themselves but now they are all dead
I'd say she's 100% there. But what may have happened is that the memories in the silver have been added to her soul, kinda like how Cutter had elements of a human soul added to his two-toe not-soul and this hatred has driven her a bit mad.
I'd say that Ana's in enough control that she won't kill Knock no matter what happens. We should also consider that there are likely elements of Toby and Stockyard's memories in her too.
At this point, I'm not sure she *wouldn't* kill Knock.
I really don't think Ana's in control anymore, and I'm not sure she's actually even still really "alive". She's in a state of unaliveness like the slaves were when they were filled with silver, where the silver was keeping them "alive" enough to prevent their souls from being able to escape the pain through death (in Kasslyne, souls automatically detach upon death, meaning that there's no such thing as restarting someone's heart).
It's the silver that's in control here, not Ana, I think.
Yeah, I can see it going that way. The silver tends to keep the shitty memories in control and if anything at all only the shitty and angry parts of Ana are being expressed, which leaves no room for being nice at any given point. Probably much like how only the shittiest parts of Starfish likely remain, not that there were many kind parts. I feel like Starfish had to be expelled because he was jockeying for control and so Ana just got rid of that part, which is why I think it's actually Ana in control to some degree that her anger takes majority control over the other souls contained in the silver.
I guess I'm making some kind of arithmetic and that Ana's "eels" are more and enough to be the dominant personality of the silver.
According to Ashley, Starfish was expelled because he heard Matty's name being called and recognized it. Other than that, I think you're spot on, that it's mostly Ana's... anger, hatred, rage and misery that's in the driver's seat here. But the thing is that's just a part of Ana, but not Ana herself, the real Ana is completely consumed here. At least that's my view?
I just realized that before Ana the silver was likely just a shitty Uaid. An amalgamation of shitty feelings randomly thrown together rather than crafted with a singular consciousness.
I'm realizing that this is exactly why the treaty was signed between the two countries to not use plods in warfare. Because both nations agree that sounding the khert for the memories of serial killers and instilling them into constructs or plods for war is just a real shitty thing you don't want people doing for a living. Like you just don't want eel-crafted artificial personalities nor do you want to train people who would be happy doing that job in pymary. It's like how in civilized countries there is zero incentive to recruit psychotics to the armed forces.
We can even see the Black Tongues generally speaking mostly create "fun" pymarics like musicians, board games, and sex-toys and very few of them seem to focus on doing things with bad memories.
Ashley's really thought this shit through. These nations at some point actually agreed that there's some moral lines they should not cross.
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>Because both nations agree that sounding the khert for the memories of serial killers and instilling them into constructs or plods for war is just a real shitty thing you don't want people doing for a living.
Makes you wonder what Murkoph is, doesn't it
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>It's like how in civilized countries there is zero incentive to recruit psychotics to the armed forces
Nobody tell him.
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>It's like how in civilized countries there is zero incentive to recruit psychotics to the armed forces.
You do know that people who are psychopaths pretend to be well to get what they want right? Naive.
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Worse than that, there are a number of military hospitals for the criminally insane and not every serial number for every resident has their "active service" tag removed (making some of them, for some reason, still capable of being deployed after being committed.) Nobody looks to actively recruit psychopaths but there is a motivation to find a use for such a potential resource when discovered (kinda like the silver). During the initial insertion into Afghanistan and again in Iraq American military mental hospitals suffered a reduction of patients that was statistically similar to the casualty rate for the armed forces as a whole
Different anon, but he alluded to it, you are considered dead by the khert when your heart stops, that's the specific trigger. So Kasslynians could be not resuscitated since as soon as their heart stops their soul gets yanked, and they can't live without their soul.
>souls automatically detach upon death
What's the trigger that tells the soul that it's dead, then, exactly? Does it keep track of vital signs?
If someone dies in Juste, does their soul go to its custom khert?
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I believe it's just gone entirely, it doesn't get collected. Which is something most Blacktongues prefer since their memories and life won't be hoarded by the khert for all time.
He has a point. Due to the nature of the Khert and Kasslyne itself, naval fortifications and warfare would be a gargantuan blindspot in the continent's war doctrine. If you're gonna attack a major city, do it by the sea
Would it? I mean that shield seems pretty hard to defeat. I guess we'll see. I do wonder if the city is as fricked as it looks? I feel like cutter is going to fail because cutter is a failure.
it's not a blind spot at all, Sharteshane has a massive navy and Cresce and Alderode widely use privateers with tricked-out ships. We'll see Regina Flask's next book.
I clearly missed the rest of this conversation, but this is implying the characters in this comic don't exactly resemble humans and have live action Battle Angel Alita eyes?
Coppers are generally said to live past 400 but those Secret Keepers (Ashley said it's an copper-organization btw) seem pretty healthy. >The Copper caste is highly secretive. No one really knows how they cope with what happens to them physically. Foreigners refer to them as monsters, but Alds themselves are taught that each caste is khert-ordained, healthy, and natural. So the Copper must endure as well as they do because the gods so love Alderode.
Are they keeping a lot of secrets from other alds?
Is that why they start growing when they age? Enough connection to not turn into an amorphous cancer blob but not enough to limit it to "regular human".
Well, they can do whatever is required to work khert hubs (given the mommy & daddy combo was going to do this), but certainly nothing martial, not even the basic b***h stuff Bastion barely can do.
Indeed, they basically can't do pymary at all and if I remember right are mostly immune from the Aldish surface-thought-reading sense as well.
I suspect there's a single cause behind both caste longevity and khert affinity, which are pretty directly anticorrelated. Maybe some single variable that is changed between them (maybe khert affinity itself?) such that the khert "likes" the plats most, so it's most willing to work with them but also most eager to gobble them up, and the opposite for coppers.
I also wonder if there's some grand unified theory of the khert, explaining the connection between its seemingly-unconnected dual functions of "governing the laws of nature" and "collecting human memories." It really feels like there's some really clever answer for what those two have to do with each other, but I don't have any good guess as to what it is.
The plat end stage is supposed to be weird, instead of old age their skin turns translucent and gets bleeding cracks.
Ashley was more secretive about coppers, do they just randomly drop after hitting 400 or does something else happen? Or do they just keep growing and there's a council of giants ruling Alderode in a basement?
Jets were said to start aging at around 150 (can't find the tumblr post because search is shit but it's on the wiki) and they live to 250 so old jets look really old.
per the patreon, the spine Khert hub is in some way specifically related to Cutter's plan
since there's Khert hubs all over, he can't want just any normal one. Is it because the queen or RFH (p'too p'too) is there, and he wants to exploit something with the hub? I had previously been under the impression it was the people at the part, and not the location, that was drawing him here
That was one big... whatever the frick it was.
spine and ribs of a dead mountain ogre
they make the whole continent, you know
Yes, but it seems significantly larger than the ones we've seen so far.
It also looks like it died on its back with its arse in the air.
did you forget the giant toes in chapter 14? Uaid was a baby
No, I'm remembering it and what we saw underground. But this is a city sized ribcage.
The mountain ogres came in all sizes. The ones that are most... intelligible to the human eye... are the smaller ones. Many of them are now literal mountains.
ooooooh that's why they're called mountain ogres lol. I thought it was because they lived in the mountains. That's cute
Nope, they literally became the mountains! Most of Kasslyne's earth is made of mountain ogre to begin with (albeit most of it has lost its Firstness).
>Most of Kasslyne's earth
Isn't it all made out of ogres?
The ogre's butt all the way down.
?t=20
All earth is from Ogres but deep beneath Kasslyne are the "coldlands" which isn't made of them.
Or so they say.
Didn't the gods kill them by covering them with earth?
No no, when the second world superceded the first world, the biggest most collosal mountain ogres couldn't sustain their own internal khert. This meant they, probably, painfully was converted into first earth. The smaller mountain ogres who didn't die, were all slowly crushed and suffocated by their bigger brethrens' corpses.
This is also partly why the continent doesn't really have earthquakes; they were caused by living ogres struggling to free themselves but now they are all dead
The giant heart in Duane's flashback was big enough to crush a big salt lizard with it's ventricle
Twerking is a health hazard it seems
the dialog on this page is sick af honestly
Unsounded dialogue always goes hard
Wondering, not for the first time, how much of Ana is even left in there. In that... thing.
Yeah she's not looking too good
at least she's smiling 🙂
I'd say she's 100% there. But what may have happened is that the memories in the silver have been added to her soul, kinda like how Cutter had elements of a human soul added to his two-toe not-soul and this hatred has driven her a bit mad.
I'd say that Ana's in enough control that she won't kill Knock no matter what happens. We should also consider that there are likely elements of Toby and Stockyard's memories in her too.
At this point, I'm not sure she *wouldn't* kill Knock.
I really don't think Ana's in control anymore, and I'm not sure she's actually even still really "alive". She's in a state of unaliveness like the slaves were when they were filled with silver, where the silver was keeping them "alive" enough to prevent their souls from being able to escape the pain through death (in Kasslyne, souls automatically detach upon death, meaning that there's no such thing as restarting someone's heart).
It's the silver that's in control here, not Ana, I think.
Yeah, I can see it going that way. The silver tends to keep the shitty memories in control and if anything at all only the shitty and angry parts of Ana are being expressed, which leaves no room for being nice at any given point. Probably much like how only the shittiest parts of Starfish likely remain, not that there were many kind parts. I feel like Starfish had to be expelled because he was jockeying for control and so Ana just got rid of that part, which is why I think it's actually Ana in control to some degree that her anger takes majority control over the other souls contained in the silver.
I guess I'm making some kind of arithmetic and that Ana's "eels" are more and enough to be the dominant personality of the silver.
According to Ashley, Starfish was expelled because he heard Matty's name being called and recognized it. Other than that, I think you're spot on, that it's mostly Ana's... anger, hatred, rage and misery that's in the driver's seat here. But the thing is that's just a part of Ana, but not Ana herself, the real Ana is completely consumed here. At least that's my view?
I just realized that before Ana the silver was likely just a shitty Uaid. An amalgamation of shitty feelings randomly thrown together rather than crafted with a singular consciousness.
I'm realizing that this is exactly why the treaty was signed between the two countries to not use plods in warfare. Because both nations agree that sounding the khert for the memories of serial killers and instilling them into constructs or plods for war is just a real shitty thing you don't want people doing for a living. Like you just don't want eel-crafted artificial personalities nor do you want to train people who would be happy doing that job in pymary. It's like how in civilized countries there is zero incentive to recruit psychotics to the armed forces.
We can even see the Black Tongues generally speaking mostly create "fun" pymarics like musicians, board games, and sex-toys and very few of them seem to focus on doing things with bad memories.
Ashley's really thought this shit through. These nations at some point actually agreed that there's some moral lines they should not cross.
>Because both nations agree that sounding the khert for the memories of serial killers and instilling them into constructs or plods for war is just a real shitty thing you don't want people doing for a living.
Makes you wonder what Murkoph is, doesn't it
>It's like how in civilized countries there is zero incentive to recruit psychotics to the armed forces
Nobody tell him.
>It's like how in civilized countries there is zero incentive to recruit psychotics to the armed forces.
You do know that people who are psychopaths pretend to be well to get what they want right? Naive.
Worse than that, there are a number of military hospitals for the criminally insane and not every serial number for every resident has their "active service" tag removed (making some of them, for some reason, still capable of being deployed after being committed.) Nobody looks to actively recruit psychopaths but there is a motivation to find a use for such a potential resource when discovered (kinda like the silver).
During the initial insertion into Afghanistan and again in Iraq American military mental hospitals suffered a reduction of patients that was statistically similar to the casualty rate for the armed forces as a whole
>souls automatically detach upon death
What's the trigger that tells the soul that it's dead, then, exactly? Does it keep track of vital signs?
Different anon, but he alluded to it, you are considered dead by the khert when your heart stops, that's the specific trigger. So Kasslynians could be not resuscitated since as soon as their heart stops their soul gets yanked, and they can't live without their soul.
If someone dies in Juste, does their soul go to its custom khert?
I believe it's just gone entirely, it doesn't get collected. Which is something most Blacktongues prefer since their memories and life won't be hoarded by the khert for all time.
He has a point. Due to the nature of the Khert and Kasslyne itself, naval fortifications and warfare would be a gargantuan blindspot in the continent's war doctrine. If you're gonna attack a major city, do it by the sea
Would it? I mean that shield seems pretty hard to defeat. I guess we'll see. I do wonder if the city is as fricked as it looks? I feel like cutter is going to fail because cutter is a failure.
it's not a blind spot at all, Sharteshane has a massive navy and Cresce and Alderode widely use privateers with tricked-out ships. We'll see Regina Flask's next book.
Looks nice.... Name of the cómic?
Unsounded by Ashley Cope. Just google Unsounded and it's one of the first results to come up.
For the CUMic part you need to join Patreon tho, degenerate rapesnake ass violation is not in the comic proper
It's occasionally posted on /y/. It's damn good though.
There are a small handful of sexy goodies on the patreon, but never again will we see the likes of a porn comic quite like that.
Ì dònt knòw sòrry
gimme dem silver braphogs
>perptual anal venting
ok Cinemaphile sucks but thats a low blow
achtually, many animals don't sweat and they could do the same as dogs, use their tongues when they get hot.
I clearly missed the rest of this conversation, but this is implying the characters in this comic don't exactly resemble humans and have live action Battle Angel Alita eyes?
Coppers are generally said to live past 400 but those Secret Keepers (Ashley said it's an copper-organization btw) seem pretty healthy.
>The Copper caste is highly secretive. No one really knows how they cope with what happens to them physically. Foreigners refer to them as monsters, but Alds themselves are taught that each caste is khert-ordained, healthy, and natural. So the Copper must endure as well as they do because the gods so love Alderode.
Are they keeping a lot of secrets from other alds?
Brb, gotta soulsuck some kussen for longevity
Coppers have the poorest connection to Khert of all castes don't they?
Indeed, they basically can't do pymary at all and if I remember right are mostly immune from the Aldish surface-thought-reading sense as well.
Is that why they start growing when they age? Enough connection to not turn into an amorphous cancer blob but not enough to limit it to "regular human".
Well, they can do whatever is required to work khert hubs (given the mommy & daddy combo was going to do this), but certainly nothing martial, not even the basic b***h stuff Bastion barely can do.
Those were both dudes, we have yet to see a copper mommy.
I suspect there's a single cause behind both caste longevity and khert affinity, which are pretty directly anticorrelated. Maybe some single variable that is changed between them (maybe khert affinity itself?) such that the khert "likes" the plats most, so it's most willing to work with them but also most eager to gobble them up, and the opposite for coppers.
I also wonder if there's some grand unified theory of the khert, explaining the connection between its seemingly-unconnected dual functions of "governing the laws of nature" and "collecting human memories." It really feels like there's some really clever answer for what those two have to do with each other, but I don't have any good guess as to what it is.
The plat end stage is supposed to be weird, instead of old age their skin turns translucent and gets bleeding cracks.
Ashley was more secretive about coppers, do they just randomly drop after hitting 400 or does something else happen? Or do they just keep growing and there's a council of giants ruling Alderode in a basement?
All the castes (except golds) look pretty healthy until shortly before the end, then they rapidly deteriorate.
Jets were said to start aging at around 150 (can't find the tumblr post because search is shit but it's on the wiki) and they live to 250 so old jets look really old.
As is apparent with Shadwe Grandvin.
Murkoph: "a quick Google search found a source that says otherwise:" *sends you a link to a cartel beheading video*
If mountain ogres are the earth, is coldlands whatever the ogres were walking on in the first world?
It's ogres all the way down.
>ripping off the Owl House
What exciting and whacky offscreen adventures is Starfish up to?