Wait anon, are you implying this comic is not there how based, manly and free Alderode is and that Cresce is a pathetic commie feminist shithole?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The author of the comic has quite literally said she'd much rather live in Cresce than Alderode, though she's not particularly fond of either of them as a place to live
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cope lies. We all know she'd choose a little bolthole in Sharteshane to conduct her nefarious business from.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you've ever lived in a city where there's a legitimate threat of a mugging, homeless everywhere, and everything is controlled by the mafia you would put up with everything bad about Cresce and Alderode over that. You have no idea how good good pickpockets are.
Seriously, there's nothing worse in life than walking the streets and having to watch your back the whole fricking time paranoid. Or living in a place with literal human and animal shit on the streets. Yes, Cresce keeps its streets clean but all the positives that reflects way offsets communism with slavery when you have to compare to Sharteshane's negative aspects that cannot keep its streets clean.
It really makes me wonder how awful the pymary schools are outside of Alderode and Cresce. I imagine it's so fricking undisciplined in those countries that it doesn't even come anywhere close to being a nuclear terrorist threat like it would be in our world.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I doubt there are any "proper" pymary schools outside Alderode and Cresce to be honest.
2 years ago
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I treat pyrmary instructors like I do nuclear weapons scientists and wonder how or why they would leave Alderode of Cresce to start their own school outside of those countries in the same way Iran must get its nuclear scientists educated outside of Iran.
I don't know how the frick a person can leave Iran, study for ANY amount of time there under state-sponsored scholarship, enter the field of nuclear development, and voluntarily return to Iran unless the nation is holding your family hostage. Like if my co-worker was like, "I'm going back to Iran" I'd be like, "You know the West kills people like you in Iran right? Do you suddenly hate eating sausage, your wife's freedom, Amazon, and an unmonitored Internet?"
2 years ago
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The answer is always going to be "Because muh religion." Religion is brain poison.
2 years ago
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>Do you suddenly hate eating sausage, Amazon.
They already hate that before going to any western country. >Wife’s freedom
Like if they don’t have a different concept or freedom. >Unmonitored internet
Lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't know how the frick a person can [...] voluntarily return to Iran
Believe it or not, but a lot of Iranians support the Iranian system. Your mistake is to believe that all people are just like liberal, open minded westerners at heart.
>your wife's freedom
Funny thing, Iranian women may not have a lot of public freedom or power, but they govern the household in exchange. You hear that Iranian women always have to be accompanied by a male relative when outside the home and think this means men control where the women go. You could also understand that a man of the family needs to make himself available when a woman wants to go somewhere.
Point being, other cultures have different values and some people really don't give enough of a frick about amazon and funko pops to throw away a millennia old culture over it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why not? We know Sharteshane is the largest exporter of pymarics on the continent and while it's true they don't have public education it stands to reason there's private schools set up to make the next generation of dildo designers or whatever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are probably a few. Combat Pymary and noncombat pymary are two different things. Combat Pymary is short term. It's used to arrange aspects temporarily to harm or defend. You need to think on the fly or have a few really good tricks. I'm sure someone who doesn't know how to use pymary in combat can kill with it but that's no different than someone with a gun who's not really trained.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The author of the comic has quite literally said she'd much rather live in Cresce than Alderode, though she's not particularly fond of either of them as a place to live
Cope is not a communist. She may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but she is NOT a porn star.
So if women can abort an unwanted pregnancy and men can not, that is equality but when neither men nor women can abort lil tato that is oppressive to women?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean if you can create a situation where men can grow babies in their body and face all the complications that growing a baby inside you can bring, this argument might be a bit more equal.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah, but men are made financially responsible for offspring they do not want. The financial contribution of a man is usually a couple years worth of wages. Those years of work stress are also not easy on the body.
Ask of women to shoulder the consequences of their decision by themselves. Like equals.
2 years ago
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>> men are made financially responsible for offspring they do not want.
Then those men shouldn't have deposited their sperm in a baby-making apparatus. This isn't difficult.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are we really going to derail the thread with this
I was rereading earlier and I forget, did the prostitues in the nevergreen escape? I know many of them survived the silver, but do we know if they escaped the purge that came after by the crescian traitors?
They did, we last see them running off into the mountains. There's a dude carrying Dawn while Vanilla is supporting Dawn's legs, and the dude is saying, "I'm too twink for this shit."
They escaped during the purge.
2 years ago
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>Are we really going to derail the thread with this
I think we should stop it dead right now and ignore any further posts that obviously inflame so close to topical political issues. Maybe in two fricking years when it stops being a hot button subject we can use it as an example.
Florida is nuking its public education system which is going to result in a generation of Jesus freak Alabamian yokels. Even if you don't care about social issues, that's no way to promote the technological or economic success of your state. Religion is brain poison.
She probably has a routine where she works during the day, stays up late relaxing, and uses that time to upload right before getting to bed or something.
I'm guessing the experiments with Roger Foi-Hellick was something to use the curse to turn all the non-Souds berserk, like instead of the curse being targeted to a single person make it so those affected go into a rage against anyone else. Alderode's armies would be decimated by their own hands and Cresce wouldn't need to lift a finger.
Seems she's known about it since before we did. I'd hazard a guess one or more of the conspirators is to answer for that. A certain vampire snake who's playing all sides, most likely.
it sounds from panel 1 like they're expected to uphold their end of some kind of bargain to keep or gain the silver weapon, that'd seem to be the loss he's talking about in panel 3
I know the dude is drawn like a pig in a man's body but it doesn't even feel like he's wrong here
It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash and it's politically the right move to sack some other colors for the Soud. They're just going to Ssael is all
>I know the dude is drawn like a pig in a man's body but it doesn't even feel like he's wrong here
Ashley doesn't necessarily draw people as "wrong" based on how attractive or not they are
Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive sort, though he wound up being attractive because of his personality and has a weird fanbase now lol
>Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive
Hold on there. Are you telling me that you don't find Mike "Empty My Nine On The Welfare Line" Stoklasa handsome?
>Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive sort, though he wound up being attractive because of his personality and has a weird fanbase now lol
Cope loves Mike. With her whole body.
So of course Claggart was supposed to be a certain sort of attractive.
>It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash
Lemon a shit, but he couldn't do anything about Ricker since the old pervert had rank on him.
>It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash
Is it? Lemuel said we're just scouting, let's go back and get the boys, Ricker said frick you I desire rape so they went. Doesn't that mean Ricker outranks him? How are you supposed to babysit a superior officer?
The point he's trying to make is that Ricker felt comfortable going full bore thanks to Mickey's presence, whom Lemon is presumably responsible for. Never mind that even in that scenario Lemon still isn't responsible for Ricker being a superstitious idiot, but that's part of the Aldish condition
You know, I bet it's possible for the state to rig some kind of pymaric lust spell using the Dammenkhert. That's a pretty funny thought.
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Anonymous
Upon deeper reflection maybe that's the "back door" into the curse that the salt lizard was alluding to. Instead of wanting to rip R*ger F*i-H*lleck to pieces the Black Tongues monkey with the curse until the entire country wants to frick him instead, rendering them vulnerable to invasion.
You joke but I wouldn't be surprised if he was giving vent to his desire to frick the her a 'safe' outlet. Certainly no wonder that Lem made sure he didn't get retrieved.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't see the appeal. She looks more like Duane than Leysa.
>It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash
Is it? Lemuel said we're just scouting, let's go back and get the boys, Ricker said frick you I desire rape so they went. Doesn't that mean Ricker outranks him? How are you supposed to babysit a superior officer?
Ricker doesn't outrank him but he did have authority in that situation.
>It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash
Is it? Lemuel said we're just scouting, let's go back and get the boys, Ricker said frick you I desire rape so they went. Doesn't that mean Ricker outranks him? How are you supposed to babysit a superior officer?
He's right it's Lemon's fault but he's totally wrong about pressing an attack they cannot win for some political gain.
I cannot think of a time when spending men for something as intangible as pride or honour or politics has ever went well in the long term. The Germans spent not only their adult men in WW1 but when they were very obviously losing spent their youth (teenaged) forces and Germany lost an entire generation of young people. Vietnam I feel shattered American trust in higher institutions forever and it was followed by Nixon, the pardon of Nixon (which was the right thing to do by the way), and the disaster in Iran. And this point will be proven again with Ukraine.
At the end of the day having a whole nation of people who are alive is ultimately the most important thing. This wisdom to prioritize the people and nation over something like justice, was the decision made by the German chancellor following the country's loss in WW2 when he opted to not chase down every Nazi he knew were vastly in the population. This is the mentality held by rational actors in Russia and the United States during the Cold War that held them from pressing the button whenever there was false detection of a missile strike because everyone understood that if they were getting nuked it was BETTER to soak the nuke and not nuke them back. When faced with complete and full justification to launch they realized it wasn't worth.
>"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the ruler's bidding.
Honestly why even use that etelarche curse if it's going to greatly impede your nations ability to kill the afflicted target
was it just a last ditch effort to try and force his own allies kill him before he escaped to safe territory?
You burn his entire legacy to the ground. He was a popular rebellion leader, it would have been much simpler to Sting him and be done with it if they simply wanted him dead. The Curse completely poisons every memory of him. Any Ald who followed up him would have all their feelings twisted towards hate and disgust. Look how Vampire turned out, he even knew how the Curse would feel and act and he still got fricked by it. There's not an Ald alive who could even stand the thought of Roger Foi-Hellick now. If they had simply killed him he would have been a martyr. By cursing him they made him and his cause radioactive.
Only reason he didn't die is he knew they'd be cursing him and had Crescians there to help out, otherwise the guy would have been torn to pieces.
Oh man, I miss that intoxicating feeling of hatred that came with the threats and buildup in the comic. For a short while I truly hated Roger Foi-Hellick.
To be honest, I don't think anyone was expecting Roger Foi-Hellick to shack up with the queen, and the fact that he DID is actually an interesting way in which the curse's nature was taken advantage of.
Nobody who wanted to use this curse would've thought that the curse would be placed on someone who'd simultaneously become a *lower* military priority whilst being in the presence of a *higher* military priority.
I have to say one of the most entertaining things about this world is watching enemies of the state find harbour with enemies of the state to the surprise of the state. Snowden is the most prominent example. I remember years ago people were defending that guy, I did too - UNTIL he fled to Russia. And I looked at all my friends still defending him and I was like, "Guys, Russia. RUSSIA." These past three months I cannot explain how fricking smug I feel about Snowden.
I'd bet that the people in Alderode are like "Okay, Cresce has helped him, that was unlikely but sure." Then it's like "Okay now he's married the queen and she's pregnant" and suddenly everyone's worried for their job/life and the boss comes down with executioner/bodyguards in tow and he's like "No, I'm not going to kill you guys, that's fricked up. Nobody could have seen that coming." That'd be like Snowden moving to Russia and shacking up publicly with Putin's daughter. You would actually applaud your enemy for so thoroughly flipping you off in the most absolute manner by letting the dissident have sex with what is essentially the head of state.
It makes it that even if the target survives, they'll NEVER be able to mount any sort of internal resistance within Alderode as most of the population with inherently and irrationally despise them. Thus, they can never be an internal threat to the country again.
I wonder what are the chances that Quigs and Matty end up somewhere near Roger this chapter.
I've always fricking loved Duane's plats. On the one hand they're clearly kids, full of fear and trouble. But on the other hand they have such trust in Duane, and such competence and skill. And such a fun sharp attitude.
The mix of it all is really great, and I'm glad we got to see it. Who knows? I guess they're all elderly now, but maybe we'll see them again at some point.
As you'd expect. He's young even for a plat to be doing this kind of fighting. But the alternative was being a plague orphan in a quarantine zone, so the PTSD might be the preferable option. I couldn't say.
>Lem doesn't realize how immortal Duane is and thinks he killed his bro for real this time
I mean that makes total sense, but must be rough for him right now.
Wonder what his reaction will be to learning Duane is still kicking. Would he be happy or would it just break him?
Wait, so the way Lem talked last chapter, they were always planning to rape and pillage the shrine to make Cresce pissed at the queen for placing children at a military installation.
But now it sounds like they went off script in doing more the scouting the area?
The storm protecting the shrine was abruptly lifted during the scouting mission. A scouting mission has only a small force. They always planned to attack the shrine, but they were planning to do so with a FULL force, which Lemuel explicitly says: Lemuel wanted to go back to get reinforcements before launching an attack, but Ricker insisted on going ahead, because he didn't think the shrine would be well-defended (he seemed to think there would just be a "few shrine maidens") and not much else.
Ricker made a fatal miscalculation and got the majority of his squad killed.
Taking a moment to test that idea... suppose the storm had abruptly ended and Duane and co weren't there.
There would've been no shrine maidens to be found, because they would've all been locked inside the warded hall (Siya and Sara and the two blue girls were only out because of our protags). So they would've raided the place whilst only having the lizards to contend with. Lizards did kill a few, but mainly got slaughtered. So point to Alderode.
The Alds could've raided the place and dropped the allepakh still, which would've obliterated the shrine after pillaging what they want. So that's true. Point to Alderode.
And one of the vliegeng was killed by Uaid, so that's another point in Alderode's favor here.
They still have the shrine canon to contend with. Lemuel was able to destroy that, though, so point to Alderode.
The Crescian army plus firelopers arrived not long into the fray, and they only ceased fire because of the threat of Allepakh. So that was bad luck.
So yeah, you're right, the operation would've been much more successful if our protags hadn't been there.
I got the feeling Ricker had very self-oriented reasons for wanting to go in with so little supervision. The first thing he and his boys did was start looting. The second was to look for teenagers to rape.
Honestly this is all less on Lemon than it is on the idiots that gave someone like Ricker so much authority. But then I guess they might not have had too many options if the Eatlarch curse confines them to blondes only. What a clusterfrick
Correct. Lemuel even says this-- that Ricker was not thinking with his head. Ricker was a piece of scum who was principally concerned with rape and pillage, and little else.
My suspicion is that Lemuel and Ricker were of equal rank, just in different ways. Lemuel is a vliegeng captain, but Ricker was the one leading the squad down below.
It's also possible that even if Lemuel has rank over Ricker, that Ricker's force of personality and stubbornness/greed just meant that Lemuel had no way to rein him in. This has been the undoing of armies throughout history the world over, when paid mercenary armies would stop fighting and drop everything to start looting, even when their commanders were trying to push them to make pursuit. You can arm a man and hire him to fight, but he's not an automaton, and armies always struggle with discipline and cohesion.
But the fact that Ricker was able to turn Lemuel around and make him (and the other vliegeng in the team) drop Ricker's squad off on the shrine, and order them to await Ricker's signal to pick them back up, suggests that Ricker had higher authority in this sphere. It's uncertain whether that authority comes from his rank or through his popularity with his men/the men all wanting to raid. Lemuel may have had to weigh the consequences of refusing, and of returning to Grenzlan and being chewed out for refusing to allow his men to raid a highly vulnerable and valuable target at a seemingly-opportune moment.
High command must have also expected Lems vliegeng squad to engage the shrine if given the opportunity. Lemuel says they are only there to scout, but who scouts with four vliegeng, a full company of soldiers and a weapon of mass destruction?
Soud aren't valuable, they're only particularly valuable in this one circumstance in assassinating the queen who unexpectedly is "shielded" by someone with the curse. If it were any other queen from history or any other target the Soud wouldn't be any more useful than any other soldier.
The caste system is a social construct that defines their value, which puts the Soud on the lower rungs of society but we as the audience know isn't a great way to run things but hey, you have to justify how the Soud don't fit into the hivemind and what better way than to treat them like shit. Just like how the Aldish social system defines women as second-class, it doesn't make sense but that's how they do it.
if you've got an army in enemy territory and the opportunity to use it it just makes sense
It would have worked out but they got very unlucky, and Ricker fricked things up
I was rereading earlier and I forget, did the prostitues in the nevergreen escape? I know many of them survived the silver, but do we know if they escaped the purge that came after by the crescian traitors?
Why are the updates at midnight in EST - which I presume is where Cope lives?
That's a pretty standard update time for webcomics, and she's a Floridian that somehow managed to survive the gators and the hurricanes.
Florida
Really hope Ashley manages to get out of Florida before the state goes full moron.
Uh, I think you mean full based
Ashley has made it pretty clear she's not a fan of theocratic shitholes where women are second class citizens
Wait anon, are you implying this comic is not there how based, manly and free Alderode is and that Cresce is a pathetic commie feminist shithole?
The author of the comic has quite literally said she'd much rather live in Cresce than Alderode, though she's not particularly fond of either of them as a place to live
Cope lies. We all know she'd choose a little bolthole in Sharteshane to conduct her nefarious business from.
If you've ever lived in a city where there's a legitimate threat of a mugging, homeless everywhere, and everything is controlled by the mafia you would put up with everything bad about Cresce and Alderode over that. You have no idea how good good pickpockets are.
Seriously, there's nothing worse in life than walking the streets and having to watch your back the whole fricking time paranoid. Or living in a place with literal human and animal shit on the streets. Yes, Cresce keeps its streets clean but all the positives that reflects way offsets communism with slavery when you have to compare to Sharteshane's negative aspects that cannot keep its streets clean.
It really makes me wonder how awful the pymary schools are outside of Alderode and Cresce. I imagine it's so fricking undisciplined in those countries that it doesn't even come anywhere close to being a nuclear terrorist threat like it would be in our world.
I doubt there are any "proper" pymary schools outside Alderode and Cresce to be honest.
I treat pyrmary instructors like I do nuclear weapons scientists and wonder how or why they would leave Alderode of Cresce to start their own school outside of those countries in the same way Iran must get its nuclear scientists educated outside of Iran.
I don't know how the frick a person can leave Iran, study for ANY amount of time there under state-sponsored scholarship, enter the field of nuclear development, and voluntarily return to Iran unless the nation is holding your family hostage. Like if my co-worker was like, "I'm going back to Iran" I'd be like, "You know the West kills people like you in Iran right? Do you suddenly hate eating sausage, your wife's freedom, Amazon, and an unmonitored Internet?"
The answer is always going to be "Because muh religion." Religion is brain poison.
>Do you suddenly hate eating sausage, Amazon.
They already hate that before going to any western country.
>Wife’s freedom
Like if they don’t have a different concept or freedom.
>Unmonitored internet
Lmao
>I don't know how the frick a person can [...] voluntarily return to Iran
Believe it or not, but a lot of Iranians support the Iranian system. Your mistake is to believe that all people are just like liberal, open minded westerners at heart.
>your wife's freedom
Funny thing, Iranian women may not have a lot of public freedom or power, but they govern the household in exchange. You hear that Iranian women always have to be accompanied by a male relative when outside the home and think this means men control where the women go. You could also understand that a man of the family needs to make himself available when a woman wants to go somewhere.
Point being, other cultures have different values and some people really don't give enough of a frick about amazon and funko pops to throw away a millennia old culture over it.
Why not? We know Sharteshane is the largest exporter of pymarics on the continent and while it's true they don't have public education it stands to reason there's private schools set up to make the next generation of dildo designers or whatever.
There are probably a few. Combat Pymary and noncombat pymary are two different things. Combat Pymary is short term. It's used to arrange aspects temporarily to harm or defend. You need to think on the fly or have a few really good tricks. I'm sure someone who doesn't know how to use pymary in combat can kill with it but that's no different than someone with a gun who's not really trained.
Cope is not a communist. She may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but she is NOT a porn star.
So if women can abort an unwanted pregnancy and men can not, that is equality but when neither men nor women can abort lil tato that is oppressive to women?
I mean if you can create a situation where men can grow babies in their body and face all the complications that growing a baby inside you can bring, this argument might be a bit more equal.
Ah, but men are made financially responsible for offspring they do not want. The financial contribution of a man is usually a couple years worth of wages. Those years of work stress are also not easy on the body.
Ask of women to shoulder the consequences of their decision by themselves. Like equals.
>> men are made financially responsible for offspring they do not want.
Then those men shouldn't have deposited their sperm in a baby-making apparatus. This isn't difficult.
Are we really going to derail the thread with this
They did, we last see them running off into the mountains. There's a dude carrying Dawn while Vanilla is supporting Dawn's legs, and the dude is saying, "I'm too twink for this shit."
They escaped during the purge.
>Are we really going to derail the thread with this
I think we should stop it dead right now and ignore any further posts that obviously inflame so close to topical political issues. Maybe in two fricking years when it stops being a hot button subject we can use it as an example.
Florida is nuking its public education system which is going to result in a generation of Jesus freak Alabamian yokels. Even if you don't care about social issues, that's no way to promote the technological or economic success of your state. Religion is brain poison.
>Religion is brain poison.
Ssael fhikemun rish!
Because she has an assload of buffer so the updates are automated and `0 0 * * MON,WED,FRI` is a very simple cron.
(no, she probably doesn't use cron, but is savvy enough to have it automated somehow)
I think she does it manually, which is why the updates are usually about 10-15 minutes before midnight (and sometimes even earlier).
She probably has a routine where she works during the day, stays up late relaxing, and uses that time to upload right before getting to bed or something.
Okay, fair, it's hard to tell over here in the Europoor, it's just always up when I wake up
>says all of this in front of a jet and a silver
BOY he ain't the brightest bulb
I'm sure they're both Ssaelit though and will agree
To them it's unironically the sound of piss emanating from a dickhead. Look at his face profile
Stupid sexy Lemon
Lem is way too comfortable with old men creeping on Miki
I can't believe Mikaila fricked Ricker into incompetency
What's with all those boobs?
No, seriously, Ricker was right, that lamp looks like a boob
I'm guessing the experiments with Roger Foi-Hellick was something to use the curse to turn all the non-Souds berserk, like instead of the curse being targeted to a single person make it so those affected go into a rage against anyone else. Alderode's armies would be decimated by their own hands and Cresce wouldn't need to lift a finger.
the queen was promised a bloodless victory - i think she wants to make them all kiss her ass or something
Maybe the idea is to drive the Aldish castes incredibly horny so they just have orgies and don't want to wage wars any more.
>Bloodless
The only blood that matters to the queen is Cresce blood. If alds kill each other why would she care?
KILL ROGER FOI-HELLICK
Didn't he die? Or is he just brain damaged?
Did we ever learn how the Queen discovered bell's/keon'betrayal
He hasn't exactly been subtle in his disdain of her. She's a smart cookie
elka and toma had a couple weeks of playing dead to snitch.
Seems she's known about it since before we did. I'd hazard a guess one or more of the conspirators is to answer for that. A certain vampire snake who's playing all sides, most likely.
>Greyer.
heh
What's with all the white guys?
Worst brother is only asking the plan be altered, not cancelled outright, so why is commander tomatoface acting like they've already lost?
Not enough Souds that are not dead as frick?
it sounds from panel 1 like they're expected to uphold their end of some kind of bargain to keep or gain the silver weapon, that'd seem to be the loss he's talking about in panel 3
either way they are definitely fricked
I know the dude is drawn like a pig in a man's body but it doesn't even feel like he's wrong here
It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash and it's politically the right move to sack some other colors for the Soud. They're just going to Ssael is all
>I know the dude is drawn like a pig in a man's body but it doesn't even feel like he's wrong here
Ashley doesn't necessarily draw people as "wrong" based on how attractive or not they are
Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive sort, though he wound up being attractive because of his personality and has a weird fanbase now lol
>Lol
pls show hairy pussy
It's a sfw board, get rekt
🙁
Looks like that anon on Friday was right about not enough Souds.
Claggart is cool.
>Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive
Hold on there. Are you telling me that you don't find Mike "Empty My Nine On The Welfare Line" Stoklasa handsome?
>Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive sort
is it true that mike's a womanizer
i don't understand the need to hush hush about it
if there's evidence of it just post it
>Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive sort
Get out
>Claggart was supposed to not really be a super attractive sort, though he wound up being attractive because of his personality and has a weird fanbase now lol
Cope loves Mike. With her whole body.
So of course Claggart was supposed to be a certain sort of attractive.
Cope has said before she likes schlubby dudes. Also that she enjoys drawing fat people.
Schlubby?
Like someone who's not really good-looking, possibly even unattractive, and usually with boorish manners.
unkempt and a bit slobbish
but I thought she liked jack black type guys.
Jack Black is a pretty slobby dude, even if he is a nice guy.
>It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash
Lemon a shit, but he couldn't do anything about Ricker since the old pervert had rank on him.
The point he's trying to make is that Ricker felt comfortable going full bore thanks to Mickey's presence, whom Lemon is presumably responsible for. Never mind that even in that scenario Lemon still isn't responsible for Ricker being a superstitious idiot, but that's part of the Aldish condition
>The point he's trying to make is that Ricker felt comfortable going full bore thanks to Mickey's presence
But that's moronic
You don't understand anon. Micky has that Etalarche pussy. Her mere presence drove him into a lust rage that he had release.
You know, I bet it's possible for the state to rig some kind of pymaric lust spell using the Dammenkhert. That's a pretty funny thought.
Upon deeper reflection maybe that's the "back door" into the curse that the salt lizard was alluding to. Instead of wanting to rip R*ger F*i-H*lleck to pieces the Black Tongues monkey with the curse until the entire country wants to frick him instead, rendering them vulnerable to invasion.
You joke but I wouldn't be surprised if he was giving vent to his desire to frick the her a 'safe' outlet. Certainly no wonder that Lem made sure he didn't get retrieved.
I don't see the appeal. She looks more like Duane than Leysa.
How RUDE.
Ricker doesn't outrank him but he did have authority in that situation.
He didn't even try. He sort of just chuckled and let him go a-rapin'
>It is entirely Lemon's fault that he couldn't keep Ricker on a leash
Is it? Lemuel said we're just scouting, let's go back and get the boys, Ricker said frick you I desire rape so they went. Doesn't that mean Ricker outranks him? How are you supposed to babysit a superior officer?
He's right it's Lemon's fault but he's totally wrong about pressing an attack they cannot win for some political gain.
I cannot think of a time when spending men for something as intangible as pride or honour or politics has ever went well in the long term. The Germans spent not only their adult men in WW1 but when they were very obviously losing spent their youth (teenaged) forces and Germany lost an entire generation of young people. Vietnam I feel shattered American trust in higher institutions forever and it was followed by Nixon, the pardon of Nixon (which was the right thing to do by the way), and the disaster in Iran. And this point will be proven again with Ukraine.
At the end of the day having a whole nation of people who are alive is ultimately the most important thing. This wisdom to prioritize the people and nation over something like justice, was the decision made by the German chancellor following the country's loss in WW2 when he opted to not chase down every Nazi he knew were vastly in the population. This is the mentality held by rational actors in Russia and the United States during the Cold War that held them from pressing the button whenever there was false detection of a missile strike because everyone understood that if they were getting nuked it was BETTER to soak the nuke and not nuke them back. When faced with complete and full justification to launch they realized it wasn't worth.
>"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it; if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not fight even at the ruler's bidding.
- Sun Tzu
no one cares queen sonorie, the boys want to fight
>"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight,
I read this in Soldier's voice.
>We need that weapon
Man, I cannot wait for the silver weapon to go into the heart of alderode.
Looks like Duane and Mikaela might be meeting up again sooner than we think, if they're both headed to the capital of Cresce.
Honestly why even use that etelarche curse if it's going to greatly impede your nations ability to kill the afflicted target
was it just a last ditch effort to try and force his own allies kill him before he escaped to safe territory?
Turn any allies, force him out of country, and makes it very obvious when he is near.
You can hardly help lead a rebellion if nearly every single one of your countrymen will fly into a murderous rage at the mere mention of your name
You burn his entire legacy to the ground. He was a popular rebellion leader, it would have been much simpler to Sting him and be done with it if they simply wanted him dead. The Curse completely poisons every memory of him. Any Ald who followed up him would have all their feelings twisted towards hate and disgust. Look how Vampire turned out, he even knew how the Curse would feel and act and he still got fricked by it. There's not an Ald alive who could even stand the thought of Roger Foi-Hellick now. If they had simply killed him he would have been a martyr. By cursing him they made him and his cause radioactive.
Only reason he didn't die is he knew they'd be cursing him and had Crescians there to help out, otherwise the guy would have been torn to pieces.
>There's not an Ald alive who could even stand the thought of Roger Foi-Hellick now.
Yes there are, that's Lemuel's point.
>pissmops
>true alds
Oh man, I miss that intoxicating feeling of hatred that came with the threats and buildup in the comic. For a short while I truly hated Roger Foi-Hellick.
We all did Anon, we all did. What a magical time that was.
To be honest, I don't think anyone was expecting Roger Foi-Hellick to shack up with the queen, and the fact that he DID is actually an interesting way in which the curse's nature was taken advantage of.
Nobody who wanted to use this curse would've thought that the curse would be placed on someone who'd simultaneously become a *lower* military priority whilst being in the presence of a *higher* military priority.
I have to say one of the most entertaining things about this world is watching enemies of the state find harbour with enemies of the state to the surprise of the state. Snowden is the most prominent example. I remember years ago people were defending that guy, I did too - UNTIL he fled to Russia. And I looked at all my friends still defending him and I was like, "Guys, Russia. RUSSIA." These past three months I cannot explain how fricking smug I feel about Snowden.
I'd bet that the people in Alderode are like "Okay, Cresce has helped him, that was unlikely but sure." Then it's like "Okay now he's married the queen and she's pregnant" and suddenly everyone's worried for their job/life and the boss comes down with executioner/bodyguards in tow and he's like "No, I'm not going to kill you guys, that's fricked up. Nobody could have seen that coming." That'd be like Snowden moving to Russia and shacking up publicly with Putin's daughter. You would actually applaud your enemy for so thoroughly flipping you off in the most absolute manner by letting the dissident have sex with what is essentially the head of state.
It makes it that even if the target survives, they'll NEVER be able to mount any sort of internal resistance within Alderode as most of the population with inherently and irrationally despise them. Thus, they can never be an internal threat to the country again.
I wonder what are the chances that Quigs and Matty end up somewhere near Roger this chapter.
I hope that's Claggart in the background. Wishful thinking, but he is a favourite of mine
Kind of looks like those two, huh?
I've always fricking loved Duane's plats. On the one hand they're clearly kids, full of fear and trouble. But on the other hand they have such trust in Duane, and such competence and skill. And such a fun sharp attitude.
The mix of it all is really great, and I'm glad we got to see it. Who knows? I guess they're all elderly now, but maybe we'll see them again at some point.
They're all probably dead other than Magnus now aren't they?
Pretty sure Ashley has said that the story is done with the lads. They are safe from the horrors to come.
She said on tumblr at one point that the war leaves poor magnus really fricked up mentally
As you'd expect. He's young even for a plat to be doing this kind of fighting. But the alternative was being a plague orphan in a quarantine zone, so the PTSD might be the preferable option. I couldn't say.
WAR MACHINE
Silvers only get about 50 years, that guy would be too old at this point i think
He's bronze, I'm sure.
I hope that's not Claggart in the background because this chapter is going to be a nightmare bloodbath
Ash said he's not here, so it must be hist evil twin Cloggert
Bloggart.
So tittybird scene next?
Who's ultimately to blame for them having so few Souds? Isn't it the Aldish government?
They lost four Vliegeng?
Three vliegeng died in the fight against the shrine's troops (12_02).
Three vliegeng attacked the shrine proper (16_2).
Two of those died(16_49, 16_117), and only Diva returned.
So how did he arrive at a number of four?
Wasn't there a dead one in the river prior to the party reaching the temple?
Those were the dead vliegeng from the fight with the srhine troops.
>r*ger foi-hellick
SHIT UPDATE SHIT CHARACTER SHIT COMIC
what's with all the crackers?
>Lem doesn't realize how immortal Duane is and thinks he killed his bro for real this time
I mean that makes total sense, but must be rough for him right now.
Wonder what his reaction will be to learning Duane is still kicking. Would he be happy or would it just break him?
Wait, so the way Lem talked last chapter, they were always planning to rape and pillage the shrine to make Cresce pissed at the queen for placing children at a military installation.
But now it sounds like they went off script in doing more the scouting the area?
They were on a scouting mission.
The storm protecting the shrine was abruptly lifted during the scouting mission. A scouting mission has only a small force. They always planned to attack the shrine, but they were planning to do so with a FULL force, which Lemuel explicitly says: Lemuel wanted to go back to get reinforcements before launching an attack, but Ricker insisted on going ahead, because he didn't think the shrine would be well-defended (he seemed to think there would just be a "few shrine maidens") and not much else.
Ricker made a fatal miscalculation and got the majority of his squad killed.
To be a little fair, if it weren't for the main characters being there, the operation would have likely gone off without a hitch.
Though if they weren't there, the storms would have been indefinitely raging, so I guess it's a wash.
Taking a moment to test that idea... suppose the storm had abruptly ended and Duane and co weren't there.
There would've been no shrine maidens to be found, because they would've all been locked inside the warded hall (Siya and Sara and the two blue girls were only out because of our protags). So they would've raided the place whilst only having the lizards to contend with. Lizards did kill a few, but mainly got slaughtered. So point to Alderode.
The Alds could've raided the place and dropped the allepakh still, which would've obliterated the shrine after pillaging what they want. So that's true. Point to Alderode.
And one of the vliegeng was killed by Uaid, so that's another point in Alderode's favor here.
They still have the shrine canon to contend with. Lemuel was able to destroy that, though, so point to Alderode.
The Crescian army plus firelopers arrived not long into the fray, and they only ceased fire because of the threat of Allepakh. So that was bad luck.
So yeah, you're right, the operation would've been much more successful if our protags hadn't been there.
I got the feeling Ricker had very self-oriented reasons for wanting to go in with so little supervision. The first thing he and his boys did was start looting. The second was to look for teenagers to rape.
Honestly this is all less on Lemon than it is on the idiots that gave someone like Ricker so much authority. But then I guess they might not have had too many options if the Eatlarch curse confines them to blondes only. What a clusterfrick
Correct. Lemuel even says this-- that Ricker was not thinking with his head. Ricker was a piece of scum who was principally concerned with rape and pillage, and little else.
My suspicion is that Lemuel and Ricker were of equal rank, just in different ways. Lemuel is a vliegeng captain, but Ricker was the one leading the squad down below.
It's also possible that even if Lemuel has rank over Ricker, that Ricker's force of personality and stubbornness/greed just meant that Lemuel had no way to rein him in. This has been the undoing of armies throughout history the world over, when paid mercenary armies would stop fighting and drop everything to start looting, even when their commanders were trying to push them to make pursuit. You can arm a man and hire him to fight, but he's not an automaton, and armies always struggle with discipline and cohesion.
But the fact that Ricker was able to turn Lemuel around and make him (and the other vliegeng in the team) drop Ricker's squad off on the shrine, and order them to await Ricker's signal to pick them back up, suggests that Ricker had higher authority in this sphere. It's uncertain whether that authority comes from his rank or through his popularity with his men/the men all wanting to raid. Lemuel may have had to weigh the consequences of refusing, and of returning to Grenzlan and being chewed out for refusing to allow his men to raid a highly vulnerable and valuable target at a seemingly-opportune moment.
High command must have also expected Lems vliegeng squad to engage the shrine if given the opportunity. Lemuel says they are only there to scout, but who scouts with four vliegeng, a full company of soldiers and a weapon of mass destruction?
why send the souds to rape the shrine if they're so invaluable? did they think roger foi-hellick had set up a harem there?
My guess is that the vast majority of their force in the area is soud, the non-soud force is minor and in a support role (like Mason).
Soud aren't valuable, they're only particularly valuable in this one circumstance in assassinating the queen who unexpectedly is "shielded" by someone with the curse. If it were any other queen from history or any other target the Soud wouldn't be any more useful than any other soldier.
The caste system is a social construct that defines their value, which puts the Soud on the lower rungs of society but we as the audience know isn't a great way to run things but hey, you have to justify how the Soud don't fit into the hivemind and what better way than to treat them like shit. Just like how the Aldish social system defines women as second-class, it doesn't make sense but that's how they do it.
They weren't sent there to rape the shrine, that was Ricker's personal objective.
if you've got an army in enemy territory and the opportunity to use it it just makes sense
It would have worked out but they got very unlucky, and Ricker fricked things up
Sounds are considered expendable by Alderode's rulers in VITS, they care more about internal politics and power relations than winning the war.
>stop, I can only get so erect
God, I want to frick Lemuel. I want to bend him over his dead brother's corpse and pound his ass and make him cry.
I was rereading earlier and I forget, did the prostitues in the nevergreen escape? I know many of them survived the silver, but do we know if they escaped the purge that came after by the crescian traitors?