Pantoffel is dead on the page in front of us. Look at panel 3. She's lying limp in a pool of her own blood.
My money is on Bluey getting a kill on a mook and maybe Bloedlus, or Bluey dying in the process of taking down Bloedlus. I don't think Bell dies just yet, much as I would like the deaths to be him and Bloedlus. He either lives a few more pages yet while we get some exposition and our characters rack up enough sacrifices to kill him, or he survives even further on, with this being the penultimate confrontation rather than the last.
Consider this: if Bloedlus dies or even is just sufficiently hobbled, Bell and Bloedlus won't be able to escape the shield expansion in time and would die as a result.
So that's it?
Pantoffel just dies off panel instantly?
Seems a bit out of place for Ashley
God dammit Ashley, I hate you.
Pantoffel is dead on the page in front of us. Look at panel 3. She's lying limp in a pool of her own blood.
My money is on Bluey getting a kill on a mook and maybe Bloedlus, or Bluey dying in the process of taking down Bloedlus. I don't think Bell dies just yet, much as I would like the deaths to be him and Bloedlus. He either lives a few more pages yet while we get some exposition and our characters rack up enough sacrifices to kill him, or he survives even further on, with this being the penultimate confrontation rather than the last.
I don't think Pantoffel has quite bitten it yet, and will get her final moment to shine. But whatever happens, she has firmly earned her status as best girl and best chew toy.
Even if she's alive, she's in no condition for heroics. And she certainly doesn't look alive right now. In another world, this page would have shown that the cry came from Bloedlus after the two toe drove his spear in deep. But in ours, Pantoffel was the one crying out. And it's pretty obvious why.
This makes the most sense, but I'm unsure if Bell will have given everything he has to give the story in just two pages.
Just cauterize Pant's wounds and then give her mecha legs or wheels. EZ
I mean, at the risk of blowing yourself up I guess you could try to cauterize Pant's corpse before taking it to a taxidermist and requesting they attach a pair of wheels.
Nah, other anon has it right most likely. Cope has said before Bell's not a major character in the story, even if he is a driver of some of the current events. He's not going to last much longer. And Pantoffel is probably not dead yet, so that makes 2.
Well, frick, I really did not see this coming. I didn't expect his "I can control the Silver" shit on the last page to work, either. He's somehow inexplicably gotten vastly more impressive in a handful of pages.
1. pant gets killed off without much fuss because shes not a particularly story relevant character and more of a way to get toma from point a to point b
2. no one wants to see high definition gory dog death
3. shes fine actually girl got exploded and thrown off a waterfall and shrugged those off
As gorey as Unsounded gets, Ashley's never made it gratuitous. And she's been vocally against that aesthetic consistently when discussing it. This scene with Pantoffel is already very dark, and very disturbing. Making it a spectacle of blood and death doesn't further the narrative, and could even take away from the awfulness and heaviness of the scene. If we see Pant die on screen, Toma won't put her down, she'll be just barely lifting her head and moving a paw, and he'll watch her die solemnly, just as he gets to her. Like
1. pant gets killed off without much fuss because shes not a particularly story relevant character and more of a way to get toma from point a to point b
2. no one wants to see high definition gory dog death
3. shes fine actually girl got exploded and thrown off a waterfall and shrugged those off
says, Pant dying is a way to get to Toma and lend weight to the story. It's also a way to reinforce the awfulness of war, and this coup, but we don't need to see in extreme gorey detail Pantoffel's demise to get the message.
>Making it a spectacle of blood and death doesn't further the narrative
This is not what saying goodbye to your faitful steed is. Sad =/= gore. I didn't even mention gore.
Putting down your own dog one handed is going to be gorey by necessity. Especially when we need a close-up of that dog which has two severed paws, a chunk out of its hindquarters, and likely a torn up throat given where Pantoffel was in proximity to Bloedlus, the command, and where the majority of the blood is now. If you got your wish for saying goodbye, the best you could hope for is something peaceful. But things are ramping up. This might not be the finale anymore, but we're getting there. There's no time for soft, slow goodbyes. It's just emergency after emergency with no time for the characters to process their grief.
From what I understand, there's very little healing magic in unsounded, when flesh is gone, its gone. Maybe you can weld it together to temporarily stop bleeding, but there's nothing like "healing hands: I choose for you to live" magic
From what I remember there is healing magic but it's basically just using pymary to do surgery. So you can't just wave your hands and fix something big. But magic is all fricky right now anyway so it'd probably just make things worse.
Nope. You can core leech pathogens to stop an infection, make skin and blood transparent for an operation, and you can heat veins to cauterize wounds. But there's no regenerative magical healing. There simply isn't a (known) aspect to manipulate to change the speed of cell division, you can't bring someone back from the dead, and you can't even resuscitate someone with pedestrian means if their heart stops even if they had our medical technology - the khert declares them dead as soon as it does, making them them impossible to save. The closest you get to more exotic healing is stuff the black tongues do, like whatever it was that Bastion did for Elan to give him help with his heart via rats. But that seems more likely to be taking the rhythm or strength of a heartbeat than what we would conventionally call healing. And let's not forget, they're in a spell stop. There's no access to pymary at all.
For completeness' sake, I am unsure if there is pain management via pymary, but even if there is there's likely better ways to manage their pain.
You could probably alter your cells if you understood cell theory and the old tanish word for cells but only the inak managed to figure bacteria out currently humans think bacteria are just ghosts.
Yeah, Inak have a far more robust understanding of biology, and so did the Tains. Black tongues seem to also be doing alright. Having friendly agib is very helpful.
As for whether it's theoretically possible in universe, I doubt that there was ever a known word for cell replication, but it seems like something that would work if you had the right words. Unfortunately, though you might frick up and give yourself cancer even if you could. Thinking about it, I wonder how treatable cancers are in Kasslyne. With the right vocabulary, if the khert differentiates between regular living flesh and cancerous living flesh, you could very effectively core leech it away, thereby guaranteeing an end to even very aggressive and late stage cancers.
I don't think that would work very well. The language of pymary is profoundly "unscientific" and better suited for expressing human perception of reality than actual physical reality.
Having different words for chemical elements like gold or copper is fine, but having different words for incredibly complex structures, such as human and dog tissues is an example, when physically they don't differ much and are made up of many different molecules and atoms.
This is why I doubt you could use pymary to muck about at the cellular level, safe for distinguishing between human tissue and foreign organisms.
>For completeness' sake, I am unsure if there is pain management via pymary, but even if there is there's likely better ways to manage their pain.
There is, Bastion was blocking the pain when he was treating the wounded in disguise but it was some black tongue special knowledge the local wrights had no clue about, and he said he wouldn't share. Laudanum is a thing.
Reminds me of magical limits in FF14's system. If someone gets injured, a healer can share their aether with the wounded but all that does is replenish the strength they lost bleeding out. Its essentially just a magical blood transfusion: life saving or can get someone back on their feet, but doesn't really heal the damage. Likewise, they have a limited ability to speed up the body's natural healing process, but that pretty much only works for shallow wounds and scrapes because if the body couldn't recover from that injury normally doing it in fast forward won't help you.
So someone with a big cut on their arm? Can probably be healed. Someone stabbed through the guts? You could keep them alive for a bit longer and hope they pull through, but you can't just magic the wound away.
>Sonorie: I'm going to let this rape-snake I unleashed bite my bittermost rival and do nothing >Bell genocides two cities with the silver >Sonorie: How could this happen?!?!
Honestly. If I were Toma, I’d want to just turn over and die at this point. He’s so fricking mangled at this point. Losing Pant would be the last straw.
Is he, though? I get the feeling Ruck's in over his head as well. He's not an idiot, but he's motivated by pretty base urges and he doesn't exactly have Ilganyag's people skills or the privilege of sifting through the khert for foreknowledge. We'll have to see how/if Roger and Sonorie's plan for Alderode intersects with Lady I's, but the silver wouldn't have reached Port Morstorben if not for Bell's involvement. And while the precise extent of Ruck's manipulation hasn't been clarified, he's clearly encouraging Bell's worst tendencies... and that's all he's really done for the story so far other than snacking on Roger and scaring off Bastion (who the Lady very much wants to not get involved in current events).
Even ruling out more recent downtime like traveling between the shrine and morstorben, there is a pretty substantial gap of time between Toma definitely for sure 100% dying at the waterfall and Elka blowing up the silver at the bridge.
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I'm going with Bell and Pantoffel, sadly
My favorite is the coffee cup giving its reactions to everything happening right now.
>Pantoffel
You might want to bet again on your second guess. Look at the blood dripping from Bell's dog's mouth. Pant's already dead.
blue lizard's the focus in that frame, i think he's going for a double kill
I mean, that would just be Bell and Toma getting fried by the shield, wouldn't it?
I assume fried is the word considering what hit Quigley, even though he says "smashed"...
God dammit Ashley, I hate you.
Pantoffel is dead on the page in front of us. Look at panel 3. She's lying limp in a pool of her own blood.
My money is on Bluey getting a kill on a mook and maybe Bloedlus, or Bluey dying in the process of taking down Bloedlus. I don't think Bell dies just yet, much as I would like the deaths to be him and Bloedlus. He either lives a few more pages yet while we get some exposition and our characters rack up enough sacrifices to kill him, or he survives even further on, with this being the penultimate confrontation rather than the last.
Consider this: if Bloedlus dies or even is just sufficiently hobbled, Bell and Bloedlus won't be able to escape the shield expansion in time and would die as a result.
I don't think Pantoffel has quite bitten it yet, and will get her final moment to shine. But whatever happens, she has firmly earned her status as best girl and best chew toy.
PFFFFFFFFFFF
Even if she's alive, she's in no condition for heroics. And she certainly doesn't look alive right now. In another world, this page would have shown that the cry came from Bloedlus after the two toe drove his spear in deep. But in ours, Pantoffel was the one crying out. And it's pretty obvious why.
Quimbley for dessert
Pant's cheating she's already dead.
Gonna go with Bell and Blue Lizard.
Though it might be Toma instead of Blue Lizard, which is a sad thought.
This makes the most sense, but I'm unsure if Bell will have given everything he has to give the story in just two pages.
I mean, at the risk of blowing yourself up I guess you could try to cauterize Pant's corpse before taking it to a taxidermist and requesting they attach a pair of wheels.
Pant's gonna be fine she's just having a nap.
Scene transition to Nary on his way to Alderode. He and that girl who hamstrung those dogs get swept off the ship and drowned by stormies.
Pant’s already dead.
I’m going with Bell and Bloedlus, mainly because I want it to be them. But… I have a feeling it’s going to be Toma taking Bell down with him.
I am predicting that this is a fakeout, and it will be Nameless Crescian buttholes nos. 17 and 23.
Nah, other anon has it right most likely. Cope has said before Bell's not a major character in the story, even if he is a driver of some of the current events. He's not going to last much longer. And Pantoffel is probably not dead yet, so that makes 2.
He'll still die this chapter just not in the next two pages.
So he knew?
Apparently fricking EVERYONE knew
coffee didnt know! look at that face
I mean, hard to not notice two giant holes on your neck
>Bell is much savvier than anyone reading thought
Well, frick, I really did not see this coming. I didn't expect his "I can control the Silver" shit on the last page to work, either. He's somehow inexplicably gotten vastly more impressive in a handful of pages.
So that's it?
Pantoffel just dies off panel instantly?
Seems a bit out of place for Ashley
1. pant gets killed off without much fuss because shes not a particularly story relevant character and more of a way to get toma from point a to point b
2. no one wants to see high definition gory dog death
3. shes fine actually girl got exploded and thrown off a waterfall and shrugged those off
>2. no one wants to see high definition gory dog death
I do
The pain ghosts are going to get you, anon.
>So that's it?
Probably not. I doubt she's quite dead yet. We won't have reached peak sad until Toma has to put her down... one handed.
As gorey as Unsounded gets, Ashley's never made it gratuitous. And she's been vocally against that aesthetic consistently when discussing it. This scene with Pantoffel is already very dark, and very disturbing. Making it a spectacle of blood and death doesn't further the narrative, and could even take away from the awfulness and heaviness of the scene. If we see Pant die on screen, Toma won't put her down, she'll be just barely lifting her head and moving a paw, and he'll watch her die solemnly, just as he gets to her. Like
says, Pant dying is a way to get to Toma and lend weight to the story. It's also a way to reinforce the awfulness of war, and this coup, but we don't need to see in extreme gorey detail Pantoffel's demise to get the message.
>Making it a spectacle of blood and death doesn't further the narrative
This is not what saying goodbye to your faitful steed is. Sad =/= gore. I didn't even mention gore.
Putting down your own dog one handed is going to be gorey by necessity. Especially when we need a close-up of that dog which has two severed paws, a chunk out of its hindquarters, and likely a torn up throat given where Pantoffel was in proximity to Bloedlus, the command, and where the majority of the blood is now. If you got your wish for saying goodbye, the best you could hope for is something peaceful. But things are ramping up. This might not be the finale anymore, but we're getting there. There's no time for soft, slow goodbyes. It's just emergency after emergency with no time for the characters to process their grief.
the dog is done
Wait, what? I was pretty sure that Ruck was trying to manipulate Bell on his own accord in order to pit him against the queen or something.
Ruck was just giving in to bell's fantasies. Bell wanted to get rid of the queen on his own.
The magic system in this can do nothing for healing? I know they were going after it but, that seems like it was already open.
From what I understand, there's very little healing magic in unsounded, when flesh is gone, its gone. Maybe you can weld it together to temporarily stop bleeding, but there's nothing like "healing hands: I choose for you to live" magic
From what I remember there is healing magic but it's basically just using pymary to do surgery. So you can't just wave your hands and fix something big. But magic is all fricky right now anyway so it'd probably just make things worse.
Nope. You can core leech pathogens to stop an infection, make skin and blood transparent for an operation, and you can heat veins to cauterize wounds. But there's no regenerative magical healing. There simply isn't a (known) aspect to manipulate to change the speed of cell division, you can't bring someone back from the dead, and you can't even resuscitate someone with pedestrian means if their heart stops even if they had our medical technology - the khert declares them dead as soon as it does, making them them impossible to save. The closest you get to more exotic healing is stuff the black tongues do, like whatever it was that Bastion did for Elan to give him help with his heart via rats. But that seems more likely to be taking the rhythm or strength of a heartbeat than what we would conventionally call healing. And let's not forget, they're in a spell stop. There's no access to pymary at all.
For completeness' sake, I am unsure if there is pain management via pymary, but even if there is there's likely better ways to manage their pain.
Just cauterize Pant's wounds and then give her mecha legs or wheels. EZ
You could probably alter your cells if you understood cell theory and the old tanish word for cells but only the inak managed to figure bacteria out currently humans think bacteria are just ghosts.
Yeah, Inak have a far more robust understanding of biology, and so did the Tains. Black tongues seem to also be doing alright. Having friendly agib is very helpful.
As for whether it's theoretically possible in universe, I doubt that there was ever a known word for cell replication, but it seems like something that would work if you had the right words. Unfortunately, though you might frick up and give yourself cancer even if you could. Thinking about it, I wonder how treatable cancers are in Kasslyne. With the right vocabulary, if the khert differentiates between regular living flesh and cancerous living flesh, you could very effectively core leech it away, thereby guaranteeing an end to even very aggressive and late stage cancers.
I don't think that would work very well. The language of pymary is profoundly "unscientific" and better suited for expressing human perception of reality than actual physical reality.
Having different words for chemical elements like gold or copper is fine, but having different words for incredibly complex structures, such as human and dog tissues is an example, when physically they don't differ much and are made up of many different molecules and atoms.
This is why I doubt you could use pymary to muck about at the cellular level, safe for distinguishing between human tissue and foreign organisms.
>For completeness' sake, I am unsure if there is pain management via pymary, but even if there is there's likely better ways to manage their pain.
There is, Bastion was blocking the pain when he was treating the wounded in disguise but it was some black tongue special knowledge the local wrights had no clue about, and he said he wouldn't share. Laudanum is a thing.
>the khert declares them dead as soon as it does, making them them impossible to save
Does this still apply to things that have no soul?
Ask Ashley.
Reminds me of magical limits in FF14's system. If someone gets injured, a healer can share their aether with the wounded but all that does is replenish the strength they lost bleeding out. Its essentially just a magical blood transfusion: life saving or can get someone back on their feet, but doesn't really heal the damage. Likewise, they have a limited ability to speed up the body's natural healing process, but that pretty much only works for shallow wounds and scrapes because if the body couldn't recover from that injury normally doing it in fast forward won't help you.
So someone with a big cut on their arm? Can probably be healed. Someone stabbed through the guts? You could keep them alive for a bit longer and hope they pull through, but you can't just magic the wound away.
>Sonorie: I'm going to let this rape-snake I unleashed bite my bittermost rival and do nothing
>Bell genocides two cities with the silver
>Sonorie: How could this happen?!?!
I can’t believe Pant isn’t going to make it.
I was sure the dog was going to make it in this one.
Honestly. If I were Toma, I’d want to just turn over and die at this point. He’s so fricking mangled at this point. Losing Pant would be the last straw.
That's why blue lizard is gonna go for the mercy kill
I'm considering the possibility of Toma dying and leaving behind Elka and Chea instead of vice versa. Knock will shank Emne as a favor.
Chea is leaving right behind him.
>chaos, chaos!
Is that a blundervale referee?
Jevil in Deltarune?
ye
I'm not sure who's playing who any more.
Everyone thinks they're playing everyone else but they're all being played by tittybird is my read
I mean, SHE IS behind most shit going on, but snake does seem like the wild card (who is also behind lots of shit)
Is he, though? I get the feeling Ruck's in over his head as well. He's not an idiot, but he's motivated by pretty base urges and he doesn't exactly have Ilganyag's people skills or the privilege of sifting through the khert for foreknowledge. We'll have to see how/if Roger and Sonorie's plan for Alderode intersects with Lady I's, but the silver wouldn't have reached Port Morstorben if not for Bell's involvement. And while the precise extent of Ruck's manipulation hasn't been clarified, he's clearly encouraging Bell's worst tendencies... and that's all he's really done for the story so far other than snacking on Roger and scaring off Bastion (who the Lady very much wants to not get involved in current events).
Whatever the snake's actions are, they happen inside the khert, so Tittybird should be able to account for them.
Wait how does Toma know about Rukha chewing on Bell? When did he have time to correspond with the queen?
Even ruling out more recent downtime like traveling between the shrine and morstorben, there is a pretty substantial gap of time between Toma definitely for sure 100% dying at the waterfall and Elka blowing up the silver at the bridge.
Perhaps General Bell will suddenly call his coup off right here and strike a deal with Queen Sonorie that he can move to Ulestry.