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Why didn't Qui-Gon just try a little harder?
Try as he might, a goy will never outisraelite a israelite.
*gets a hat in attack of the clones*
how did he save against Qui-Gon's charm spell
Bro dont worry, thankfully lucas got him to immediately explain why qui gon's jedi mind tricks dont work on him: he's a tardarian
Because he's a space israelite
Can't israelite a space israelite
Toydarians are Force resistant. They also live for centuries. By and large, the longer-lived species in SW can resist Force compulsion.
Kaballah mysticism.
>*does jazz hands*
>Gibs me dat fo free, homie!
>go to any other merchant among the literal hundreds in the settlement
>sell them literally anything from the expensive equipment and royal fluff available in your ship
>now you don't need to endanger a child and probably can afford to buy both slaves' freedom
i never understood this either. they are on a fricking royal mission. they have all the resources at the republic at their disposal and they have to fricking barter for parts from some local?
>they have all the resources at the republic at their disposal
Except they don't, because they're on a non-Republic world being hunted and making a big stink throwing Republic weight around draws attention, if they even had that as an option.
>Qui-Gon tries to recruit Anakin into his pedo cult
>starts the Star Wars
What about the Hutts though? Selling good shit might attract their attention.
Why didnt Qui-Gon take out a line of credit with the Hutts. The Temple is good for it and he already blew his cover by failing with his magic tricks and walking around in the Jedi uniform with an obvious Padawan.
It's been a while, but iirc Watto had the only part they needed, and it was too expensive to pay for with the pillows and drapes on Padme's ship.
That's the point; if Watto won't take your money or be affected by your wizard magic, just sell stuff to another merchant to get the money he WILL take (or find one that will change your credits for the viable currency; you can probably use mind trick for them to accept since it's morally grey at most and the money is still valuable even if less easy to use).
It's not that you can't force a lack of alternatives for the sake of the story, just that if you do, good storytelling would involve something better than a single shrug-off line about how only he has the piece you need in this junk merchant settlement ripe with barter opportunities.
>That's the point; if Watto won't take your money or be affected by your wizard magic, just sell stuff to another merchant to get the money he WILL take
>and it was too expensive to pay for with the pillows and drapes on Padme's ship.
and what can he sell to buy a vital ship part and a slave?
Sell some of those handmaidens of the queen. She's got enough of them.
>dont get an excuse to groom a kid, watch a hecking podrace and ditch his mother
Qui gon had his fingers crossed
How do you think that alien guy would treated in nu star wars?
he would help Mandalorain and babysit the baby Yoda
nu wars doesn't like using alien characters
Watto is one of the most powerful character ever created
It's right there in the name. Republic CREDITS aren't money, they're credit backed by nothing other than the good faith that the Republic will continue to become economically stronger. Obviously this wasn't the case because the rot had set in long before Sheev took office and the Republic was losing influence, especially in the Outer Rim.
Watto wants the kind of hard cash that Hutts deal in. Currency that's actual money formed of a precious substance that has intrinsic value, not just a base metal representing a hypothetical value as a measure of generated labor within the Republic economy.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Credit
>After the formation of the Galactic Empire, Galactic Republic credits were phased out within days, with Imperial citizens induced to register for identifying chain codes in order to exchange their now-worthless currency for Imperial credits.[15] Eventually, credits from the time of the Republic became mostly worthless.[16] Credits from the Galactic Empire likewise became worthless following the rise of the New Republic, to the point that Grand Admiral Rae Sloane was forced to pay the bounty hunter Mercurial Swift "in owed favors."[17] The New Republic also issued credits, but their value became volatile in 34 ABY following the Hosnian Cataclysm. Consequently, the city of Canto Bight prohibited New Republic credits and required all visitors to exchange their credits for currency made of aurodium.[18]
Hutt money can't become worthless simply because a governing body declares it so, because Hutt money is sound money, not fiat currency.
Watto made the correct choice in rejecting the Republic fiat Qui-Gon tried to pass off as valuable, because those Republic credits became worthless before the prequels were done.
Based sound money Hutts
REMINDER
The Republic, for all its claims to legitimacy as a “galactic” government (which really just means the Core, Inner Rim, and some Mid Rim in typical arrogance) fell apart over half a dozen times, lending blatant instability to their domain and their control and regulation of finance among the constituents of galactic banking. Naturally the Republic currency is strong within the Core worlds, grown bloated and fatter than the most indolent Hutt, but their credit is only good while the underlying governmental system backing the currency remains stable. This is a laughable notion, given the clear evidence of multiple refoundings, reorganisations, reformations, and crisis events affecting the function of Republic space, and that is without mentioning the corrupt Banking Clan. As a result, we can say, confidently, that the disaster that is Republic crisis management clearly lends the Republic credit/datary an inherent instability.
But not all is lost. Unlike its significantly more volatile fellow, Huttbux are backed by the governing body of literally the oldest contiguous civilisation ever to exist within the confines of the galaxy, reigning unconquered in the realm of the Greater Bootana Hutta for, as of The Phantom Menace, over twenty-five thousand years (which is also longer, I might add, than even the oldest date of the Republic's founding), and doing so while commanding soft and hard power in their own territory as well as across the Outer Rim (and much of the Mid Rim as well). Truly, the Hutt peggat is more stable than land or even gold.
Watto wasn't being a dick when he denied Qui-Gon a trade in Republic credits. He was a prescient understander and investor in his own financial security, knowing that the republic-of-the-day coins pushed by the tourist cannot stand against a currency that has maintained its validity for a thousand generations without surcease.
The only part of Andor that really interested me was when Mommy Mothma was talking about the changeover to Imperial credits and how it was becoming harder to move wealth around.
>The Republic, for all its claims to legitimacy as a “galactic” government (which really just means the Core, Inner Rim, and some Mid Rim in typical arrogance) fell apart over half a dozen times,
>Over thousands of years a state occasionally gets into problems and stagnation
Oh dang
Wato based, he knows that Republic credits are worthless fiat currency and not even Jedi power can convince him otherwise.
Cool, but what is Hutt currency based off of again?
>Cool, but what is Hutt currency based off of again?
A physical substance with several properties that make it inherently valuable and desirable to possess beyond its use as currency, i.e. money.
Reminder that money, currency, and debt notes are three different things.
Ok. So what is it made of? What's the name of the substance? Have you seen these Hutt coins ever depicted?
Huttcoin is backed by space gold and spice.
Gold would be useless in a space age economy. The spice is believable though...
Why would you think that? Gold is surely used in spaceship and droid parts.
Because space is so vast & abundant that gold's value would plummet.
In relation to what? The price would fluctuate based on supply and demand. Maybe they find a string of planets with no gold and the value steadily goes up, but then they find a planet practically made of gold and the price has a staggering drop for a while. It's like any economy. But presuming they use gold for their technology and people just generally find it appealing, it will always have value. You can't tell me Watto doesn't sit there counting his gold and silver shekels in his desert shithole home surrounded by sand people attacking him.
Why do you feel the ratio of gold to sapients would change as more of the galaxy was mapped?
>Ok. So what is it made of?
Lucas gold
>What's the name of the substance?
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aurodium
>Have you seen these Hutt coins ever depicted?
Yes
>I need a name for space gold
>Aurum in latin
>Aurodium
BRAVO LUCAS
It's dried hutt cum.
Huh. That actually makes a lot of sense now that I recall his line "I need something more real"
actually funny as frick how he looks away like he got his hand caught in the cookie jar
Most stable gold bug
Why didn't qui gon call him a israelite
Doesn’t look israeli
He looks more israeli than a real israelite.
Of course Watto knew to stay away from fiat funny money
>The Phantom Menace is le bad
Educate yourself
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Realistically is there any difference between mind fricking watto and just pulling your lightsaber out and telling him credits will do fine?
There's no need to murder watto if credits will do
I’m not suggesting murder him just a little intimidation or slicing up his shop
You mean the whole 20 minute podrace scene? You have a point but sequels are still bad
he can't give in to the dark side of the force
Literally brainwashing someone and forcing them to do something against their will seems pretty dark side to me. Can you also mind trick women into sleeping with you?
If he was so willing to do evil shit for the mission why not just sell some of padmes handmaids. Prime dicky would fetch a good price Id reckon. Not like Qui Gon had any problem with slavery.
I’m pretty sure mind control for your own desires is dark side
No, Obi-Wan did it
I’m pretty sure the only time the Jedi mind trick was used for a truly good purpose was when Obi Wan sent the deathstick dealer home to rethink his life.
Every other time it’s used selfishly
Watto is immune to lightsabers
Prolly should've hired some goon who needed the republic credits to steal the part.
Still feels pretty bad regardless of the situation so I guess not, though maybe the lighsaber would be more effective at freeing more slaves
that's ant Semitic
Antisemitism would be telling Blatto to leave Tattooine then creating your own starship manufacturing industry
The toydarians have been kicked out of 109 planets for shady business practices but somehow it's never their fault.
They might be in bumfrick nowhere but news that a Jedi murdered and robbed a shopkeeper would definitely reach The Republic pretty quick.
Anakin not killing him was such a wasted opportunity. It would work great as a step towards the dark side.
Something between sand people, Dooku and children.
Watto did get away with everything when you put it like that. He was a fly and everyone was scared of him
>Republic credits? I don't know... Let me ask you something. Can I ask you something? Would you want to be paid in Republic credits if you lived on Tatooine? I mean, look around!... Not a lot of demand for credits in the market here...
Tatooine wasn't part of the Republic but it was still a major Outer Rim tradingg hub, the idea that absolutely no one would accept Republic credits is absurd and Watto only refuses them because the plot demands it so they can do their podrace detour
maybe the hutts put a ban on trading with republic credits
Or perhaps the Hutts required all currency exchanging be done by said Hutts, with a suitable service fee of course. Seems like the sort of thing they would monopolize.
>Tatooine wasn't part of the Republic but it was still a major Outer Rim tradingg hub
Yes, that's why Luke famously said if there's a bright spot in the center of the galaxy, it's Tatooine.
Padme, Jar Jar, the Gungans all owed their freedom to Anakin. It would have cost them almost nothing to fly to Tattooine real quick and buy Anakin's mother. Give her a nice, easy job on Naboo as a maid or something. It was that easy to prevent Darth Vader.
why is this unironically anakins best look in the prequels
Jake Lloyd is relentlessly handsome.
SHMI WAS WON BY CLEGG LARS IN A BET AGAINST WATTO AND ENDED UP MARRYING HIM. SHE DID NOT STAY AND DIE A SLAVE. THAT IS WHY THEY GO TO THE LARS MOISTURE FARM IN 2
>winning a haggard old single mom motel maid for a prize
Rather just have the money to be honest
>want to stay living on a pile of barren sand farming dew drops instead of going to a free nice villa on naboo
Watto was Sheev's second in command
apart from the pod race this movie is a fricking disaster.
It's not fricking Star Wars. Go and watch Pixars Cars if you want a children's racing fantasy movie.
>The wupiupi was a type of golden currency used by the Hutts on the planet Tatooine. Sixteen wupiupi coins equalled one trugut, and sixty-four of them equalled one peggat.
Good to know, I guess.
Liras WILL do fine.
NO, THEY WON'T. You think you're some kind of semite, waving your cross like that? I'm a Protestant, israeli mind tricks don't work on me. Roman popery is worthless here.
why didn't Qui-gon just go to a forex?
Anakin should have been around obiwans age
they should have both been teens
No slavery shit
Anakin is strong in the force and Qui gon thinks its necessary to train him
no weird jedi code against relationships
sort a obiwan,padme, love triangle to that doesnt get to serious
make his father a jedi who left that makes anakin distrust the jedi. his mom remarried and wants to stay on tattooine
she still can die to tusken raiders assault on their farm.
just make it that anakin as an outer rim brat has not strong ties to the republic
palpatine shows him the "evil" of the republic and anakin believes it and confirms in him that jedi are hypocrites and self serving.
the clone wars shit
mom dies
anakin gets idea padme is cheating on him with obi wan
goes darth vader
>you don't need compensation to moderate this board
>Attempts to defraud a hardworking trader
What the frick was his problem?
There was a Star Wars dubs thread a few years ago where I rolled with the dice Qui-Gon uses in this movie. I didn't get dubs so I posted Qui-Gon using the force, and then I got dubs when I posted the die on the other side. It was kino and a very good memory.
>didn't screencap it
What a shame
>Smaller dealers… well that implies there’s larger ones. Watto tells him he’s the only guy in town who’s got the part. Hey here’s another idea! Why don’t you trade the Naboo cruiser for a less fancy, but functional ship? Or maybe hire a transport? Pay them all the money you have now and then promise more when you get to Coruscant. Sound familiar? Someone who’s like a-uh transport ship captain or a smuggler would have use for Republic credits, cuz they travel around the galaxy. Probably go to other space ports?
Nobody has been able to refute this without the classic "it's a kid's movie shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!" cope.
I have to be honest, why didn't he just pull the lightsaber and threaten him?
What's Watto going to do?
Ruin his credit score.
Why are the credits worthless? They don't have space internet? Or you can just pay someone to go buy some shit for you in the republic, especially if he is getting a shit ton of credits the extra hassle of it would have been worth it.
>Why are the credits worthless?
Worthless traceable fiat e-currency.
>They don't have space internet?
Latency and warp bandwidth is expensive. Plus having to pay brokerage fees.
>hire a smuggler to go buy a bunch of shit with the massive amount of currency you just got for a nothing part.
Trade vessels run on thin margins. Any smuggler worth his salt on Tattoine is going to only accept Huttbux because his spaceport fuel suppliers and mechanics are only going to trade in huttbux or other satoshi standard compliant space coin. Republic credits are worth less than nigerian dollars or empty promises.
It's interesting how that changes when the Empire comes to power. Han accepts credits from Obi-Wan and Luke and owes Jabba thousands of credits for his spice loss. Whatever currency Tattooine used before then is apparently void by the time of ANH.
Imperial dosh is backed by force of violence. Why do you think glowBlack person shit happens when nations try to ditch the petro-dollar.
>Why are the credits worthless?
Because the Republic was about to collapse and Watto understood this. Guess what? When the Republic collapsed a few years after this scene, anyone with Republic credits was offered a one-time chance to exchange them for Imperial credits at a really shitty rate. If you kept your Republic credits, they were worthless, because they were only "backed" by the confidence that the Republic would continue to keep issuing more and more credit.
Now obviously this is just a children's fantasy movie about space wizards. No competent rulers would ever allow a fiat system to take root unless they stood to personally profit from it.
>Republic collapsed a few years
>years
Like he couldn't have just spent it before then. It wasn't that much money but it was worth enough to buy an entire ship.
I'm guessing the type of business he ran and his customers meant that he himself had no purchasing power with republic credits.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense why Watto was unable to predict the exact moment the Republic would collapse.
>The wooden doors compels you!
Why are they useless anyway? Shouldn't the currency used by the most prosperous part of the galaxy be worth more than the local shekel?
>Shady merchant tells you he's the only one with the part you need
>Blindly trust him and bet your life on some slave boy being good at racing without bothering to check out other dealers
?
There is no way others would have accepted republic credits for the same reason Watto didn't.