Casting fricked the movie I agree.
Cara I guess I can see, but what the actual goddamned blue frick was he thinking casting Dane DeHaan? Just plain fricking stupid.
They both came off as a couple of children playing dress up, which technically is close to what they were, but it shouldn't come off that way in universe.
There were boycotts due to some things the author of the book said about alphabet people. Activists were all over sites like reddit posting the movie's surprise twist to destroy people's motivation to see it.
Just watched this a week or so ago, what was wrong with it? I thought the kid actors did a pretty good job.
It's been quite a while since I've watched it but my memory is that someone told the kid to do that annoying "I'm an adult" voice kids use when trying to appear older than they are. Kids can talk serious without using that voice.
Ender's Game is actually pretty good. Just unfortunately rushed. Should have been split up into two movies or a mini series. They needed more focus on how fricked up the army was making him. In the books he didn't destroy the bug homeworld because it was the only way to win, he destroyed their homeworld because in a bout of psychosis he thought it would crash the game and he'd get kicked out of the military
They also entirely excised the plot with Valentine and Peter inventing political shitposting and using it to take over the world.
Which was okay, if you want the movie to concentrate on Ender's story.
My problem was that the Game was too realistic. I never thought it was a game, and always felt like he was watching stuff actually happening.
Casting fricked the movie I agree.
Cara I guess I can see, but what the actual goddamned blue frick was he thinking casting Dane DeHaan? Just plain fricking stupid.
They both came off as a couple of children playing dress up, which technically is close to what they were, but it shouldn't come off that way in universe.
Studios saw them as the next big thing and that this would be their breakout role. And we would never hear from them again.
i dont know what the frick everyone is smoking.
dane is alright, a little awkward but likable
cara is fantastic in this though
i agree overall it was a pretty big letdown but it's still like a 6/10 at least
The story wasn't as engaging as an adventure movie should be.
Compare it with The Fifth Element, which had a more traditional hero's journey, akin to Star Wars and LotR, where you have a (relatively) regular person who is out of the loop with regards to the story at hand. He is the surrogate for the audience, he learns and grows as the audience does. it's a basic good vs evil story, the details of the lore could be glossed over and it still resonates but the fundamentals of it instinctively ring true.
In Valarian the audience are just observers. The characters already know what they're doing and we're suppose to keep up. The story was convoluted and cerebral. There was nothing human to latch onto. A bratty brother-sister couple runs through some video game obstacles and end up being a bratty-sister couple. It's an empty journey compared to The Fifth Element where a broken lonely ex-war man who gets dragged into a new world to save everyone and is rewarded with the love of a woman who is the human embodiment of love itself. It's an actual meaningful trajectory on multiple levels which makes it worthwhile.
>It had great visuals and a decent story, but the acting was atrocious.
Can't say about the acting, seemed fine to me and it was a great looking flick but I think the main problem was only Euros are aware of the comic the movie is based on and secondly, the movie isn't an origin story and just kinda starts in the middle with the characters already established, which leads right back to the first point.
You don't necessarily need an origin story to introduce new audiences to a franchise. You just need a really simple plot with a relatable hero and a compelling villain. Origin story movies work because the origin story itself eats up so much time that the writers/director are forced to keep the plot and villain simple and the pacing tight. Valerian had a convoluted plot, an uncharismatic hero, and a lame villain whose motive was just to avoid jail for something he already.
With those two?
A wet clump of tard that looks like it was dried out in a microwave and whatever that dude is?
That's what turns you on?
No wonder you don't reproduce.
Everytime I see Cara Delevingne I think "What a shit actress who has never been in a good movie." Then I remember she's a lesbian with a self-admitted foot fetish that has bedded some pretty hot women, and I'm forced to admit that she's probably kinda based.
this movie made me sad because the crew must have put in so much work with the truly great SFX and sets but then the director hired two 0 charisma actors for what is supposed to be a fun space adventure and also the script sucked so what you got was a tedious to sit through movie despite all the effort that went into it. I really think directors need to stop using mega budget movies like this to ~subvert expectations~.
Focusing on the actors for the main characters is reddit shit. If you were a true kinosaur like me, you look past that for the extremely beautiful visuals and you appreciate what the movie does things that no one else will do. They built a fascinating sci-fi world.
Great movie.
Cinema would be saved if we had more movies made that were like Valerian.
amen brother, amen. Grade A babe to look at, incredible scifi world building, beautiful visuals. there's literally nothing wrong with this movie other than Rihanna's scenes going on way too long. But I'm sure they made a good chunk of money on that from her PR agency
>Besson independently financed and personally funded the film. With a production budget of around $223 million, it is both the most expensive European and the most expensive independent film ever made.
Yikes
>Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets grossed $40.5 million in the United States and Canada and $184.7 million internationally (including $36.8 million in France), for a worldwide total of $225.2 million. With a production budget around $180 million, the film would have needed to gross $400 million worldwide in order to break even and justify a sequel.
It had great visuals and a decent story, but the acting was atrocious.
This
Extremely poor casting of leads
Casting fricked the movie I agree.
Cara I guess I can see, but what the actual goddamned blue frick was he thinking casting Dane DeHaan? Just plain fricking stupid.
They both came off as a couple of children playing dress up, which technically is close to what they were, but it shouldn't come off that way in universe.
Suffered the same fate as ender's game.
Just watched this a week or so ago, what was wrong with it? I thought the kid actors did a pretty good job.
I think the script and the pacing were a bit weak compared to the original book, but it didn't deserve the horrible box office.
There were boycotts due to some things the author of the book said about alphabet people. Activists were all over sites like reddit posting the movie's surprise twist to destroy people's motivation to see it.
It's been quite a while since I've watched it but my memory is that someone told the kid to do that annoying "I'm an adult" voice kids use when trying to appear older than they are. Kids can talk serious without using that voice.
Ender's Game is actually pretty good. Just unfortunately rushed. Should have been split up into two movies or a mini series. They needed more focus on how fricked up the army was making him. In the books he didn't destroy the bug homeworld because it was the only way to win, he destroyed their homeworld because in a bout of psychosis he thought it would crash the game and he'd get kicked out of the military
They also entirely excised the plot with Valentine and Peter inventing political shitposting and using it to take over the world.
Which was okay, if you want the movie to concentrate on Ender's story.
My problem was that the Game was too realistic. I never thought it was a game, and always felt like he was watching stuff actually happening.
Miniseries could have been good, it could show the gradual fatigue setting in and have some of Ender's internal monologue. Also Graff losing the plot.
>Somehow Cara is the better of the two
Grim
Studios saw them as the next big thing and that this would be their breakout role. And we would never hear from them again.
>we would never hear from Cara again
god I wish that was the case
i dont know what the frick everyone is smoking.
dane is alright, a little awkward but likable
cara is fantastic in this though
i agree overall it was a pretty big letdown but it's still like a 6/10 at least
cara isn't fantastic in anything. she has a face like a dude and the emotional range of a mannequin
The story wasn't as engaging as an adventure movie should be.
Compare it with The Fifth Element, which had a more traditional hero's journey, akin to Star Wars and LotR, where you have a (relatively) regular person who is out of the loop with regards to the story at hand. He is the surrogate for the audience, he learns and grows as the audience does. it's a basic good vs evil story, the details of the lore could be glossed over and it still resonates but the fundamentals of it instinctively ring true.
In Valarian the audience are just observers. The characters already know what they're doing and we're suppose to keep up. The story was convoluted and cerebral. There was nothing human to latch onto. A bratty brother-sister couple runs through some video game obstacles and end up being a bratty-sister couple. It's an empty journey compared to The Fifth Element where a broken lonely ex-war man who gets dragged into a new world to save everyone and is rewarded with the love of a woman who is the human embodiment of love itself. It's an actual meaningful trajectory on multiple levels which makes it worthwhile.
cara and that twink had a brother-sister energy which only made it worse
>It had great visuals and a decent story, but the acting was atrocious.
Can't say about the acting, seemed fine to me and it was a great looking flick but I think the main problem was only Euros are aware of the comic the movie is based on and secondly, the movie isn't an origin story and just kinda starts in the middle with the characters already established, which leads right back to the first point.
You don't necessarily need an origin story to introduce new audiences to a franchise. You just need a really simple plot with a relatable hero and a compelling villain. Origin story movies work because the origin story itself eats up so much time that the writers/director are forced to keep the plot and villain simple and the pacing tight. Valerian had a convoluted plot, an uncharismatic hero, and a lame villain whose motive was just to avoid jail for something he already.
I agree. I liked the setting and the plot.
Should have had a sex scene
With those two?
A wet clump of tard that looks like it was dried out in a microwave and whatever that dude is?
That's what turns you on?
No wonder you don't reproduce.
Sex between those two would sound like someone clacking deer antlers together.
Everytime I see Cara Delevingne I think "What a shit actress who has never been in a good movie." Then I remember she's a lesbian with a self-admitted foot fetish that has bedded some pretty hot women, and I'm forced to admit that she's probably kinda based.
don't forget she has cute boobers
They’re ok
Spacejews
Well duh. The comics are great.
Why did they cast two actors that look the same? Made them look like siblings.
I love Dane
this movie made me sad because the crew must have put in so much work with the truly great SFX and sets but then the director hired two 0 charisma actors for what is supposed to be a fun space adventure and also the script sucked so what you got was a tedious to sit through movie despite all the effort that went into it. I really think directors need to stop using mega budget movies like this to ~subvert expectations~.
Rihanna had a very long scene in it too. Trash
Whiney moron. Indie film gives them jobs they wouldn't have had otherwise
Dane and Cara are fricking boring
not really no
Focusing on the actors for the main characters is reddit shit. If you were a true kinosaur like me, you look past that for the extremely beautiful visuals and you appreciate what the movie does things that no one else will do. They built a fascinating sci-fi world.
Great movie.
Cinema would be saved if we had more movies made that were like Valerian.
>They built a fascinating sci-fi world.
they designed 200 different aliens
amen brother, amen. Grade A babe to look at, incredible scifi world building, beautiful visuals. there's literally nothing wrong with this movie other than Rihanna's scenes going on way too long. But I'm sure they made a good chunk of money on that from her PR agency
cara is UGGO
dane dehaan looks like a 12yr old
I miss when the era when Cara was a lot of people's waifu here. What happened to her anyways
>Cara was a lot of people's waifu here
she looks like a man
>What happened to her anyways
I liked her when she was just a quirkly model but then she became one of those yellow press celebrities and I lost interest.
What is yellow press?
anon means yellow journalism
Ok what is that?
clckbait, shit journalism. It used to be called yellow press back before the digital world
She's in American Horror story now, and once you've been in it one time you basically keep popping up in it
terrible main actor. Weird loser.
Dane are you coming over again tonight?
Male lead was a manlet with no charisma. Female lead was all sex appeal and no charisma. The casting killed this.
>Besson independently financed and personally funded the film. With a production budget of around $223 million, it is both the most expensive European and the most expensive independent film ever made.
Yikes
I see estimated $177mil budget, grossed $223mil worldwide...
>Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets grossed $40.5 million in the United States and Canada and $184.7 million internationally (including $36.8 million in France), for a worldwide total of $225.2 million. With a production budget around $180 million, the film would have needed to gross $400 million worldwide in order to break even and justify a sequel.
How the frick did luc besson some up with $223m
The leads destroyed it.
Yep, it's sexo.
The first 10 minutes of this movie were two of the best Sci-fi short films I've seen. And then they introduced the leads.
He did nothing wong
>moves away and she's visibly shaken
oof
That opening scene is one of the GOAT
Gives me feels every time. What a precipitous drop afterward.
Maybe if they didn't cast Hbomberguy as lead
are those gays still around, that breadtube crew ? Feel like they've been memoryholed since Disneys self evident ass rapening has been accepted.
awful leads with zero chemistry
if they hadn't put that weird drug addict in as the male, it might have been salvagable.
cara delavigknee looks like the perfect crackprostitute
I headcanon that these homies were twincest
it needed an older male lead