>vh1 documentary
>But in the early 90s a new sound from seattle would change the rock and roll landscape forever..
>*Opening riffs of smells like teen spirit"
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>vh1 documentary. >But in the early 90s a new sound from seattle would change the rock and roll landscape forever..
Grunge ruined rock music.
better than men wearing makeup and spandex
Nah, it was all equally gay
Those guys got more ass than a toilet seat and made music that was actually energetic and fun to listen to.
Call them gays if you want, but while they were getting head, Cobain was blowing his off.
>Those guys got more ass than a toilet seat
And still maybe only a quarter of what rappers today get
I don't think so.
I don't think anybody will ever get more ass than those 80's hair metal bands. It was literally insane. Like the door guy to the back stage dressing room would get bj's just to let the groupies in.
and not killing yourself/letting your wife kill you
glam was pretty based
For the music, frick no it was not. Cobain and his preachy, nihilistic worldview managed to poison an entire generation of musicians and their songwriting.
yeah let's go ahead and pretend shit like axl rose with his moronic fricking moaning and stupid little shim-sham was so much better
Guns N' Roses were post hair metal and fricking based. It's not their fault their shit gets played into the ground in every Michael Bay style action movie ever.
any band that hates police and Black person, immigrants and homosexuals is good in my book
Nah grunge was cool but the should have been a part of rock not take over like it did
Late stage hair metal ruined rock music. Grunge saved it for a little while and fumbled hard.
Hair metal was great.
Pure rock and roll. Elaborate instrumentals, lyrics about being the best/fricking/getting wasted, exaggerated presentation.
What more could you want?
It was super, super gay.
Those dudes got more pussy than anyone else, possibly ever.
Good music
this.
It was kino music but a social plague that fortunately ended when Cobain offed himself.
But it didn't really because then you had mainstream post grunge for like 15 years which was way more generic and irritating.
You misunderstand me. The social plague aspect of grunge was the cultural impact it had where everybody was depressed for no reason because it was cool.
But yeah bands like Nickelback and Creed took the sound mainstream and ruined it.
I don't know, I guess I was just in a white trash enough social strata where there was an endless strain of Seether, Stain'd, Puddle of Mudd, and a thousand bands I couldn't even name haunting the stereos around me that really carried on that depressive life sucks angst bullshit well into the 2000s and beyond
>Seether, Stain'd, Puddle of Mudd
All of those bands had the manufactured aesthetics but weren't actually about the whole depressed life sucks really. By that point it was literally a k-pop level manufactured image.
puddle of mud is absolutely based
Blame the industry trying to find their next Nirvana. They dug up any band that sang about their feelings.
Staind wouldn't have made it out of New England if it werent for the fact Limp Bizkit (specifically Fred Durst) brought them on Tour and sang with Lewis on stage.
Staind and Godsmack were post-Alice in Chains
Seether was Nirvana without the confidence
Puddle of Mudd is Pearl Jam if they tried to be Nirvana.
stainds first album is good
It's Been A While remains my favorite song. I can listen to it in good times and bad. I have pastiche memories of listening to it over the years in different phases of my life.
absolute kino song. his country version is really good too
>his country version
You lost me there.
realizing country music isnt inherently shit is one of the best parts of growing up
It isn't inherently shit.
But I still don't like the "country" version, especially considering he and his band are from New England. That phony western accent is just grating knowing he's a west-mbutthole
i dont think he really does a western accent in his cover, its basically just an acoustic version with a lap steel guitar
creed rules, get thee gone agent of satan
Kids forget that when nickelback first came out they were viewed as a breath of fresh air, it actually sounded a little different than the nirvana clones popping up everywhere
The only good grunge band/album was Madseason.
The rest of it sucked. Mopey-ass b***h music.
no one gives a shit about grunge, it's never getting a revival, but hair metal and pop metal and 80s hard rock is and you can seethe
grunge started in the late 80s and died by the 90s anyway when homosexuals like you (though not actually you because you're likely too young to have actually been there) latched on to proto-emo sadboys like cobain, nirvana was the fricking simple plan of grunge
The funniest thing about Smells Like Teen Spirit is that Cobain wrote it as a joke about what a pop song should sound, he fricking HATED it.
it was cool to hate your biggest hit
that's nice, but all their other music is shit too
on a technical level, or lyrically, or by any other metric you can critique music by, they were fricking trash
even Grohl mysteriously stopped being a shitty musician when he formed the foo fighters, even if they never made a song I liked
The wrong drummer died of vax induced heart attack.
>hair metal and pop metal and 80s hard rock
wow dad rock is so totally radical lol cope gen x
It was good but in like ten years it devolved into crap like creed and nickelback and staind which actually killed rock
>Bands that sold 10s of millions of records are crap
So do the homosexual rappers nowadays, what's your point
>Bands that sold 10s of millions of records are crap
what do you call this anonymous white guy look? I had youtube running in the background and there were like three different bands in a row with this same anonymous look and I thought they were the same band but they weren't.
I have no idea but I think it has something to do with bands from Las Vegas
>literal dry unsweetened branflakes of music
>record companies endlessly shill them and they become famous
I don't care what anyone says; their music is good and you're all just hipsters. You're going to unabashedly sing it twenty years from now.
They are the Creed, Nickelback of current era. They sell millions but nobody will ever admit to listening to them in public
im not even a huge music snob, but what the frick is wrong with you?
They look like AI
Are they American? Where in America are they from?
Yes
Nu metal ruined rock music. homosexual. I love you.
pop punk ruined rock music, but everyone secretly sings along to my chemical romance so no one wants to admit it
All mainstream 2000s rock trends (pop punk, alternative/grunge, nu metal) were awful in retrospect, only underground indie rock like white stripes and strokes was actually great
>underground indie rock like white stripes and strokes
are you 12 or 60 I cant tell
Underground = not in pop charts
what ever you do dont look up the billboard charts for seven nation army
Indie = independent music, not commercial
indie music means independent of a major studio or label. the strokes were backed by sony and the white stripes were backed by universal until they made enough money for jack white to start an 'indie label'.
at the time (early to mid 2000s) when people talked about 'indie music' they were talking about soft/folk-y rock like sufjan stevens, the decembrists, bright eyes and stuff like that.
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>the white stripes were backed by universal until they made enough money for jack white to start an 'indie label'.
and many (like a shit ton) of "indie" labels are actually sister brands owned by major labels as a facade to sell certain artists to hipsters who think it's a genuinely independent label.
dude the strokes are the most above ground band of all time it was a rich kid in nyc's project
Are you fricking moronic? Mr brightside by the strokes was in the top 100 for 7 years, the white stripes had numerous chart topping songs
yeah pop punk and nu metal were trash but alternative/grunge still had some decent stuff here and there.
All of those were 90's trends, and the white stripes and the strokes were not underground in any way shape or form, they were industry darlings propped up by snobby music critics and got ungodly amounts of airplay at the time
Britpop was better than grunge. Oasis rocked harder than these junkie commie gays from Seattle
>Britpop was better than grunge
lmao
Stupid fricking meme genre that exists because Brits were made that grunge and the '90s alt-rock thing was pure American and suddenly nobody was wanting to suck them off so they just pretended that actually all of their bands were better even though nobody gave a shit about any of them outside of dumb pedo island.
>an entire genre literally built off stealing The Beatles.
>noteworthy
yeah nah,.
oi m8 play the woo hoo song
Oasis??? Fricking Oasis? They were totally obscure in America. Are you joking? Like I can’t believe it. I can't believe Brits are this persistent in their delusions about Oasis. Oasis was never popular in America. They were always literally whos. In 2023 and in 1996 and always.
They had no impact on American culture or media whatever, even in the 90s. Nobody knew the band Oasis or the Gallaghers. No tv or movies ever referenced them. No media outlets gave them coverage. None of their music got play except wonderwall (as a joke song). Oasis was a total nonentity in America, totally unknown to 99% of the population and it makes the bongs seethe like nothing else.
Name an Oasis song that got radio or MTV play that wasn’t Wonderwall. You literally can’t.
Oasis were utterly dwarfed by every metric by every other global band in the Nineties, especially Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins, both of whom outsold Oasis in their home country. They certainly had a one flash-in-the-pan hit in the US, the same way fricking Chumbawamba or OMC did, but they are just not an important, relevant or meaningful band. They were a mediocre pop band of no lasting import.
Even in the UK, look at how many contemporary bands use Strats instead of Les Pauls. There is not a single person in the world who picked up a guitar and started a band because of Oasis. There is probably not a single person in the world who can name any member of Oasis.
This shit was kind of funny the first thousand times but now having to trot out every single fact over and over again is just getting tedious. Oasis was extremely obscure not just in America, but in every other country not called England.
Oasis was highly influential.
Noah is a mythological level narcissicist that might as well claim the lightbulb as his invention. The band is garbage, one hit wonder tier.
Frick off.
pfffffthahahahahaha
Based and look how the yanks seethe. Their entire 90’s rock scene was made up of one good band with like 3 good songs.
madchester >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The crowds put on a better show than Oasis live
No, what ruined rock music was all that gay shit like Disturbed and Five Finger Death Punch and whatever that showed up in the early/mid-2000s and then never went away even though all of it sucked.
Neither of those gays would have had a career without grunge.
It doesn’t matter really. It is just that rock music noticeably got lower in quality and lazier by that time
"grunge" was a fake genre made up by some music label nerds wearing suits to make teens feel like they had their own brand of rock and sell them products.
The nihilism couldn't survive past highschool, but it was a nice phase. Good times.
Frickin’ A brother.
Bands like this are so annoying. People think they're so great, but listen to Fleetwood Mac or Led Zeppelin and Nirvana sounds like Billie Eilish in comparison.
100%
>People think they're so great, but listen to Fleetwood Mac or Led Zeppelin and Nirvana sounds like Billie Eilish in comparison.
To be fair. Nirvanna and grunge in general has roots in punk and punk is distinctly not about pure musicality. Like I'm sure even Cobain himself would say he was closer to the Sex Pistols than something like Led Zepplin.
fpbp
Curt sucked hard. Yeah there were some good songs regardless, but he still hate his fans, especially casual ones.
Rock music was never good. Brian Eno being an exception.
>try to turn him into a progressive hero
>turns out he was threatening to kill women for a few thousand dollars
What?
>shots of kids in flannel crowd surfing
>EVEENN FLOOOWWW
HEE WE AHH NAAHHHH AHH NAAAHH HEY
>Kurt! It's me! Your cousin, Marvin!
Cobain is dead because he was a simp
Actually yes.
Cobain was great and he was not a gay, well maybe he was gay byt more than that he would most certainly be a troony today.
The older I get the more I realize Cobain was a gay and his music sucks.
He wore bras on stage and made fun of rape-billies
of course he was a gay.
>its an Anon loses all of his musical taste as he gets older and turns into a literal troony homosexual episodde
>the transition from heavy metal to alternative rock
>completely omits the most integral bands of that transition
>tfw no Kim Deal gf
I agree, it's like everyone forgot faith no more and jesus and mary chain existed
I assume the cuckxies picture attached to your post is unrelated
>how do you do fellow grunge bands?
>how do you do fellow gangsta rappers?
This album actually regained him street cred, it just didn't sell worth a shit
Finally somebody gets it.
>yfw Hammer actually confronted motherfrickers
Would need a scene of Billy Corgan balls deep in Courtney Love while Kurt was in rehab.
>kurt stole all his music from his black female babysitter
gonna get an oscar
>Dat right Massa Kurt, you just wanna have dat sound.... da music should be like a state of.... nirvana.
"would" is a literally perfect song. It is a rare thing in this universe with no flaws.
>alice in chains devotees not most insufferable homosexuals on here
>stanleygays crying about this H'd out gays vocals as the best ever
Your hero went out like rotting meat and trying to sell us on his musical abilities doesn't change the fact that nobody gives a shit about Alice in Chains.
I swear the few of you are as bad as entire Tool Is super serious awesome fanbase, combined.
Thoughts on the music? I noticed all you did was b***h about fanbases in your post
I like the music, it is simply the fanbase
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>got called a homosexual once by someone who said they liked the band
>fanbase
cry more
nirvana blows dog ass
STP, Alice in Chains, Dinosaur Jr., etc.
You could put on a blindfold and pick a non-Nirvana grunge group out of a stack and you'd have 100% chance of selecting a group 800x times better than nirvana
Dinosaur Jr. is grunge?
Honestly they were a more influential band in the long run. The grunge sound died out but Alice in Chains' sound and lyrics pretty much formed the basis of all the rock music that came after. For ill because all of it sucked but still, more influential.
nah, 2000s buttrock was a lot more based on Nirvana's brand of punk
The only good "grunge" band
Best grunge band was the Melvins
Metallica unironically blows nirvana out of the water. Nirvana is normie mall enjoyer music. Music surveys of the United States out nirvana right up there with Katie Perry and Justin beiber in terms of popularity. It is literal garbage for consumption by human cattle. You are not special
>Cinemaphile in a nutshell
Katie Perry songs have more artistic value than Nirvana songs.
>half way though every song a black guy comes and raps for a verse
All the real grunge acts diedwhile grunge was still popular.
>new
>from seattle
I hate being the dude who saw Nirvana when Chad Channing was the drummer, but I am, and knowing what actually happened and how that squares with corporate narratives is one of the most frustrating things about being cool.
What actually happened?
>It's a Seattleite who has to put on a fricking show instead of just saying what he knows.
I like this super underground band called the smiths. I also paint my nails black, and I drink coffee and smoke cigarettes and have bipolar disorder. Please accept me
ladies and gentleman the BUTTHOLE surfers
I saw them in Dallas when I was a kid and they made the mistake of playing Pepper as the first song in their set as the last band to play. As soon as Pepper was finished literally everyone got up to leave right as they started playing their second song.
No one wants to listen to anything else they ever wrote.
You're a candyass.
Except that's fricking wrong. The documentary starts with Blood Circus's The Outback
how do you physically have a nice day with a shotgun while overdosing on heroin?
weren't they trying to turn him into a troon or something
Thoughts on the Pixies?
They are good until Kim Deal leaves, and then The Breeders are cool, but not as good. Both way better than Nirvana.
Instead of being emo commercial nihilism, it's a lot more surrealism, aliens, and weird Americana. I like them a lot.
the pixies influenced just about everything 90's music but pic related cucks everything posted here.
Radiohead is the second greatest band ever after the Beatles, unironically. It's something about childhood friends that stick it through and develop together that brings out the best type of bands.
I listen almost exclusively to Radiohead and even I can't say this is true lol and the Beatles are definitely not the best ever. You have a very shallow music appreciation no offense.
Just one example, Led Zeppelin had a top 3 all time guitarist (completely outclasses Johnny Greenwood), the best vocalist ever (completely outclasses Thom), and a better drummer AND bassist than Radiohead. And they just fricking tore it up. I'm assuming you're putting Radiohead above them because you don't know better and only listed the Beatles as better out of a noob's sense that it's obligatory since you don't know many other bands. This isn't an attack by the way it's the best explanation if you aren't moronic
What's the best LZ song to be immediately blown away?
Dazed and Confused
Dazed and Confused
REM were pretty good
They have some super annoying songs though, like Losing My Religion is the equivalent to nails on a chalkboard with how awful the vocals are.
I like the guitar on it, Shiny Happy People makes me wanna rip my ears off though
i HATED their beta cuck aesthetic though.
It was nice when that kind of person was confined purely to west coast cities
Grunge was so anti-consumer, anti rock star, that the Hebrew record execs put an end to it.
I would've killed to be a boomer in the early 90s, def leppard, aerosmith, zz top, ac/dc all put out some great stuff while all the homosexual kids were listening to gay shit like rape me and fake plastic trees on repeat
>kills your grunge in 1992
No offense.
Tool fricking sucks and their fans are all homosexuals
>band is called Tool
>lead singer is a tool
>fans are all tools
Props for not being false advertising.
Why are musicgays so unbearable? Just listen to the shit, goddamn. Dressing like the dude that sings your favorite song is unbelievably gay
I feel bad for all the good late 80s metal bands that just got fricked sideways by popular opinion turning so sharply against metal like Skid Row, Queensryche, and King's X.
80's hair band rock was the definition of style over substance. It was more about the party lifestyle and banging chicks than actual quality music.
You say that, but Rock You Like a Hurricane is one of the best anthems of all time.
Dude. There is a reason that stuff is skipped over by nostalgiagays. On pure merit it is low quality music. The very definition of 'you had to be there' .
It is skipped over by nostalgia gays because it was too ostentatious and self-confident.
Music nerds love 'vulnerability' which they define as sounding like a homosexual and singing about being a sad moron.
Singing about getting your dick sucked or using enough coke you're basically in outer space isn't 'vulnerable', so it isn't good in the minds of music nerds. Same reason they shit talk gangster rap while celebrating any rap artist that talks about wanting to kill themselves.
They'd rather listen to King Crimson so they can hear Robert Fripp plug a string every 10 seconds on some song called, "The Angel's Last Descent", or whatever. Or Nick Cave, so they can hear some burn out ramble with the worst mixing you ever could imagine.
I like, "In the Court of the Crimson King", too, but pretending that even half of KC albums are listenable while hating all of Motley Crue is just dishonest.
>Singing about getting your dick sucked or using enough coke you're basically in outer space isn't 'vulnerable',
True. And there isn't a lot of artistic merit to that either. Which is why it has aged poorly. ...Like ok..if the lyrics and subject matter arent 2deep4U then at least you better be bring something to the table from a pure musicality standpoint. But hair band metal doesn't do that ether. It was simply a product of its time with not a lot of greater artistic value.
What defines artistic merit?
The complexity of the guitar and instrumental in general within hair metal was higher than most of what preceded it, and way higher than what came afterwards in grunge.
The only place that it is 'substandard' is where I said, in that the lyrics are celebratory and aspirational about being the best hedonist, rather than being about necking yourself over a break-up like some 14 year old.
>What defines artistic merit?
Artistic merit is the emotional connection between the creator and the viewer/listener. The emotional connection can transcend time and space across centuries even. Hair metal couldn't even travel 30 years. But the music before and after it is still making emotional connections between the creators and the listeners to this very day.
That is artistic merit.
I have a very close connection to Girls, Girls, Girls.
The lyrics connect exactly with my deep set emotional struggles and desires for life.
Unfortunately, I can't say the same about, say, Heart Shaped Box. That song is impossible for me to empathize or sympathize with, or to form a connection with the singer through. It is uninteresting, the lyrics are vapid, and the topic is distasteful.
Songs about your shitty relationship don't have much in the way of artistic merit.
Music nerds, however, are obsessed with second hand masochism.
>Songs about your shitty relationship don't have much in the way of artistic merit.
Holy hell dude. What do you think Rock n' Roll came from? It came from Rhythm and Blues. Blues is hearbreak, heartbreak is conflict and conflict from life makes for the best art which is why songs with an underlying rhythm and/or blues element mog just about anything else out there in popularity. Its not just the lyrics, its the sound as well. OP was full on blues in its own way which is why it was and is still wildly popular to this day.
Rock and Roll owes its energy to swing music and jazz, especially bebop. Which were themselves were derived from ragtime and marching music.
While Elvis might have been a fan of the blues, he sang and moved like a swing musician.
Other than that, the blues contributed a scale and set of notes to rock music but lyrically was tossed out for decades because some bumpkin singing off-key about how his wife left him isn't actually that interesting.
Art that is nothing but some manchild crying about how he couldn't tell some crazy b***h was going to be a bad girlfriend has no value.
It is immature and some of the gaygiest shit imaginable to listen to. Kickstart My Heart has more literary value than the entire Nirvana catalog.
Bruh, It's simple scoreboard. Time is the ultimate judge and hair metal isn't making any new emotional connections with anybody today and hasn't since the 80's. Its last best chance for a revival was at the end of Stranger Things Season 3 and it couldn't even do it then. Nobodies feeling it that isn't actually from there in those times.
The fact that nobodies feeling it MIGHT be because it just flat out doesn't fit with the emotional state of the world. Like the 80's were the good times. So that kind of music fit. Like who does that speak to today that isn't living in some kind of delusional bubble? idk. ...But whatever the reason is, unless you were there. There's no emotional connection between that music and anybody else today. Which makes it fare poorly in the hierarchy of what is good quality art.
If you're going to play that, then blues died in the 40s and was never revived. So people don't give a shit about it.
You'd counter by saying that the 'ideals of blues' were made part of music forever more, and you don't have to make music that sounds just like Muddy Waters to be embodying the spirit of the blues.
And so I'd reply that modern power metal music is far more influenced by hair metal than heavy metal.
Dragon Force is 50% Dio and 50% hair metal, for example. And thus by the same measure, hair metal is alive.
The other reply I'd have is that hair metal never left active play, so there was no reason to revive it. Half of every film that wants an energetic moment still grabs an 80s rock ballad even today.
I'm talking about all rock from the 60's to current day. New listeners of all ages are still listening to all era's bar 80 hair metal and maybe 2000's Nu Metal but its too soon to tell on that one.
You are flat out wrong and out of touch, hair metal has been going through a revival for a decade and nu metal has started going through a revival now too with old bands getting back together to release new material and several rappers moving into nu metal territory
There has been a hair metal revival scene going on for the last decade you moron lol
You guys are talking about "scenes" not bands. And anything made now is going to be tailored to better fit modern sensibilities now mater how retro they claim to be. I'm talking about the actual music that was recorded back then. Nobody under 40 is listening to it. Plenty of people under 40 skip over that era and listen to music that was recorded before that era.
I already named a bunch of bands, hardcore superstar, la guns, buck cherry, the darkness, Steel panther, all recent bands and all with fanbases of people mostly under 30, you have no idea what you're talking about
I never heard of Hardcore Superstar so I looked them up and I can safely say that they are 180' degrees from my taste in music. I can definitely say that I cannot confidently judge what is 'good' or 'bad' from that genre, as it is so far removed from anything I would ever listen to.
I'll stick to Nirvana, White Stripes and Audioslave.
>audioslave
Some of the most up its own ass schlock out there.
The only time Audioslave was any good was in that one scene during Collateral. And that was entirely down to context.
The first album was end to end bangers every single track.
I'm not telling you to listen to them, I'm telling you you have no idea what you're talking about when you claim no one listens to hair metal and no one is making new hair metal, they are, I don't even listen to the stuff myself but I'm aware what's going on
>I'll stick to Nirvana, White Stripes and Audioslave
So you just listen to what 40 year old pretensious music critics say is cool? Lmao
I'm Gen-X. I bought this stuff when it came out. Listen to and bought practically every kind of music except hair metal and country. The closest I ever got to hair metal was Use Your Illusion 1.
>I'm Gen-X
Guess that's why you're completely out of touch with what people under 30 are listening to
The people I know under 30 that listen to hard rock listen to Metallica and Megadeth type stuff but not much hair metal from what I have seen.
Well Iv been deep in the metal scene through my teens and 20's and I know a bunch of people into hair and sleaze metal, even alot of thrashers I know will listen to stuff like Steel panther and skid row, and lots of girls in particular listen to hair metal
I see you've never actually listened to blues then because alot of that music was about getting your dick sucked too
Spoken like a true music snob who can't play a single note himself
that music did connect to people on an emotional level it was just positive emotions unlike mopey crap like Nirvana, there are more emotions than just depression and melancholy you know
>that music did connect to people on an emotional level
I know it did. What I am saying that it now longer does. Bands with timeless music like the above mentioned Led Zepplin, Beatles and Stones still connect to NEW listeners today 50 years later. Because great art transcends time and space. You can listen to a symphony that was written over 200 years ago or view a painting 500 years old and still have an emotional connection with the person who created it.
Something about the bands from the hair metal era just isn't doing it unless you were there personally. I guess you could say it was the MCU of rock. Like sure it was hugely popular at the time. But how will is it going age 30-40-50 years from now?
As Iv stated multiple times now there is still tons of new listeners of hair and sleaze metal and a bunch of recent bands in that genre, you are out of touch and don't know what you're talking about, one of the most popular bars in my city Cherry bar specifically caters to that kind of music and scene
For sure, but quality metal bands became radioactive to record labels when the hair bubble burst and the flannel boom started.
Skid row was way better than crappy nirvana tier bullshit
>*HEEMS HAIR METAL AND KILLED IT FOREVER* with nothing more than 3 chords and the truth
heh better luck next time shredder dicklets
Hair metal is still around, hardcore superstar, la guns, the darkness, buck cherry, Steel panther
For me, it's The Replacements
this shit head lied so much to make himself seem more interesting
cobain was a total homosexual. he was a woke feminist b***hing about white male sexism and patriarchy before it was mainstream
just came here to tell Nirvana didnt play Grunge.
the father of rock has spoken, checkem
Never liked Nirvana. STP was my shit instead. Sadly they were underrated in comparison to other grunge bands
STP was a strange case. They had good songs but their sound was extremely derivative which is why nobody took them seriously. Even though they were the real deal and not fake at all. Just an odd case all around at the time.
Couldn't have said it better
seattle in the 90s was probably really cool
they were definitely the face of the sound but its sad to think of how bands like Sonic Youth, the Pixies, REM, Faith no More etc. were overlooked as having set the foundation for grunge.
bigly influenced by husker du as well. nirvana wasn't interesting musically or aesthetically
>saves you from grunge and britpop
>kills rock forever alongisde them
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
>everyone left picking up the pieces is too afraid to follow it up, so Indieshits pivot to reviving post punk and garage rock all the way to present day
>this approach is so boring trapshit and hip hop have taken over
frick this album for being too good
>radiohead
frick off
cope
"Paranoid android' was a single, kek. Exit music for a film is ok.
it's a banger
My dad bought the cd. It had a big red sticker on it that said 5.99. I bought it from him. This album is up there with Pink Floyd. It was a culmination of everything that had meant rock up until that point. It was a closing off of the nineties.
To be
Correct: it was 600 belgian francs.
I got educated on the euro when I was 11-12 years old. If you're an oldgay you still have to calculate the money times 40,3399. For Dutch money you had to multiply by 18 or 20 and for French money by six. I remember when the euro was more valuable than Bong money.
It never was. The Euro was 40 and the pound was 60.yyom8
Radiohead is impressive if you're a teenager coming off mainstream rock... wait, scratch that. Even compared to other mainstream rock bands, Radiohead is boring and derivative. Their music has never been anything but utter mediocrity. All Radiohead fans are idiotic dilettantes.
Trying too hard. Radiohead is closer to Coldplay than the best of the best, but they're still the best band of the past several decades. Thinking they're mediocre is outing yourself as tasteless
I will never understand why Radiohead makes both boomers and zoomers seethe. They're very very good
Just contrarianism. For boomers it's not like "their music", for zoomers they want to be different
>Have professor in college
>Knowledgeable but gives off arrogant and insufferable vibe
>Ends up being director of my graduate program
>New Grad Seminar class favorite band comes up
>Radiohead
>Makes perfect sense
Did they leave out the part where he raped an underaged moronic girl?
Rock music died with Nu metal. Every made after 2004 fricking sucks. Metalcore sucked. Emo sucked. The only decent rock music to come post 2004 was some of the garage rock revival stuff but that's just rehashing shit for the 60s anyway.
Mac Demarco and tame impala block your path.
mac demaros who thing is a ripoff of durutti column and tonetta, he has no talent
>who thing
ESL detected
no, I just forgot two letter. Mac DeMarco is lame
>Mac DeMarco is lame
he has some interesting
his older make out video tape stuff was really good.
I used to ride around on my bike as a teenager at 3am listening to Makeout Videotape. What a homosexual.
>durutti column
you have any recommendations that sound like what you claim?
*mogs all other 90s bands*
literally who
gigamoggers
I don't have a dog in this fight but for me it's AiC
>transcended both grunge and metal to become something entirely unique
i think you mean Blink 182
take a shower
>"if I ironically listen to obnoxious clown music, nobody can criticize my taste."
Except I can. Soulless contrarianism is tiresome.
So glad guitar music died, it was pure cringe.
>Barely mentions Pixies or Sonic Youth just as bands that Kurt liked
>Dave Grohl and Henry Rollins interview
>Never a mention of post hardcore or shoegaze
>It was all nirvana and britpop!
I always hated this
80s is the worst era of music, rock pop, it doesn't matter. it fricking sucks.
hair metal fricking sucks
90s grunge/alt was heading in the right direction
Abominably shit taste.
name 4-5 good bands/acts out of the 80s
most of the good shit came out of the 70s (e.g. talking heads, the cure, hardcore/emo). The Smiths.
80s is the gayest period
The most timeless music from the 80's is pop and New Wave. Depeche Mode, New Order...etc.
Nirvana, REM, GNR, Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, NIN, Run-DMC, NWA, Depeche Mode, New Order, The Smiths I think formed in 1980 etc
Motley Crue
Van Halen
Danzig
White Snake
Ozzy Osborne's solo act.
Bonus points for The Scorpions, who were older but didn't actually start making relevant music until the 80s.
Dude, Slayer?
>90's
>grunge
>america
JAJAJAJAJAJAJA
listen to more 80s music
>80s is the worst era of music
>it doesn't matter. it fricking sucks.
agree for most genres but for pop i believe this was one of the greatest decades.
think of the amount of talent that was churning out classics in the 80s:
michael jackson
prince
diana ross
rick james
journey
queen
hall&oates
whitney houston & way more, i don't want to go on
there was even a ripple effect where japan created their genre of city pop off of how great 80s pop was
you can even see the apprecation for it when it was 're-discovered' in the previous decade, through very minor tweaks to 80s hits and jingles people created the seeds of vaporwave and future funk
i would say for pop music the last few decades have easily been worse, soulless acts like carly rae jespen, chainsmokers, etc have run rampant.
You are not wrong Anon.
for me it's how the 80s had peaks in just about every popular music form, and the invention of a couple of them, and rocked pretty consistently right up until 1988 or so and then suddenly everything turned to shit. suddenly there was all this awkward radio-friendly PG cringe rap and new jack swing everywhere, and even fairly campy stuff like hair metal turned into outright self-parody with stuff like damn yankees
>new sound
>the 90's
>from seattle
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
American bands are mostly shit.
Yes. Americans stole punk rock from Peru.
>movie starts with tah-rah-rah-rah
>you know you're gonna watch kino of the highest order
Cobain?
wtf bros i like nirvana
Curt, or Kurt or Kurdt if he was feeling especially homosexual, fricking HATED YOUR GUTS.
>but anon I bought his albums
Yes I know. He hated you. He had nothing but contempt for anyone who didn't have homosexual sex and shot heroin. Literally.
I can separate the art from the artist.
I can too, never said I threw out my Nirvana albums, but I just take them supercifially, the way Ckurdddtttt (the waste of air spelled his name differently by the day because he was so egocentric) would've hated.
where the frick do you guys get this shit from
lmao
How does it feel to know nothing of what you speak? Yes, Ckuurdddtt fricking hated his fans and he wrote on the subject extensively.
He would regularly b***h in interviews about his fans not understanding his music and how pissed off they made him, he also multiple times talked about how he wished he was gay
he liked his 'real' fans who enjoyed the music
he disliked people who just fanboyed him and treated him as a celebrity
glowie posting covering up for Courtney
I have been listening to this Heart Shaped Box electro-dub cover almost daily. Kurt would have HATED it.
Based and noticed. Yes he would definitely be suing their asses. And you know what, it's at least as good as the original.
kurt hated everything so figures
he'd deliberately tease the teen spirit opening at gigs and then just stop and go on about how much he hated the song and play something else
>he'd deliberately tease the teen spirit opening at gigs and then just stop and go on about how much he hated the song and play something else
What a homosexual. It make my heart sing to know that his wife blew his head off. Two going to Hell for the price of one.
thought she paid that one dude to kill him who himself was hit by a fricking train later?
>thought she paid that one dude to kill him who himself was hit by a fricking train later?
Of course I don't know, but I my gut says she pulled the trigger.
>he liked his 'real' fans who enjoyed the music
Like I said, if you shot heroin and buttfricked random dudes in gay bars, Kcuuurrdddtttttt loved you.
>Cinemaphile has better music threads then Cinemaphile
Classic
>Frances Bean Cobain is 85 years old
for me it's deftones
>post malone does a Nirvana set at all his gigs
this is bizarre. do his zoomer fans even know who Nirvana were? and isn't he a rapper? why would he be playing rock music?
Alot of rappers are starting to dabble in rock and metal now, there's that whole trap metal genre taking off these days
This is what I've been saying FOREVER. Rock didn't die, it evolved. Why have a band when you can sampe and produce music quicker and faster? Lil Peep did alt-rock, grunge, and punk on top of trap and hip-hop. XXXtentacion did screamo rock. It's all out there.
>But in the early 90s a new sound from California would change the rock and roll landscape forever...
Pearl Jam and Soundgarden were not grunge
they were just Seattle rock bands that happened to be big at the time alongside Nirvana
AIC were the only other such band that could be considered grunge
>Pearl Jam and Soundgarden were not grunge
Maybe not, but they still had that familiar,melancholy Seattle sound that makes you want to have a nice day
only a zoomoid wouldn’t understand the shift Smells like teen spirit had. doesn’t matter your opinion on the song MTV and radio flipped with it
Some anons here think I exaggerrate or am picking on homos, but I'm not. Kurt/Curt/Curddt/Frickface constantly wrote about how his true fans:
>fricked other dudes and loved it
>did I mention that they loved homosexual sex?
>shot heroin because being normal is le evil
>and being normal is le stupid
>but boo hoo all muh cronies who died from heroin
>hey guize did I mention that unless you place your penis into another hairy male butthole you don't deserve to even understand my perfect holy music?
If he constantly wrote it then provide a link or screenshot
Are you fricking kidding me??!?!??!!?!?!? It's in his album-folds even in the CDs, or you could MOTHERFRICKING LOOK IT UP.
GOD DAMN.
>"guys he totally hated non gays
>"guys seriously im not exaggerating, he said it CONSTANTLY"
>can't provide evidence
you're a joke
You have the Internet at your disposal and you'd rather make baseless claims against a stranger than to use google for the 552nd time today (be honest, you maggot-frick).
nah he said a line about how bigots weren’t welcome to his shows and you took that personally so you started making a bunch of shit up, even though you weren’t alive then
>I managed to hear one thing the homosexual said so therefore my homosexual ass declares that is all that exists in the universe
Brilliant, homo.
i already googled a few mins and couldnt find shit that correlates what you say
not gonna go on a wild goose chase because of some anon who wont provide even a single link to what he already claimed was so well known and accepted.
like i said you're a joke
>i already googled a few mins
Sure you did, your spacing says you're lying. And this is last time I'm visiting this cursed thread, so I'll say it one final time, you're a gay homosexual and no one loves you or ever will. No one else online will tell you the truth ever again as I have. Have a horrible life because that is what you have and will always deserve.
But in the early 90s a new sound from seattle would change the music landscape forever
>HEY BABY I HEAAR THE BLUES A CALLING TOSSED SALADS AND SCRAMBLED EGGS
>OH MY
>Black personfies an entire generation of young white kids along with GTA:SA
eminem was fun, it's no surprise he got popular. his early stuff was a good time while being backed up with genuine talent
Nirvana were fricking great and I'm tired of pretending they weren't.
Did Frasier have any grunge characters?
I mean it was happening all around them supposedly. Surely Ros picked up a rocker guy. Or Niles complained about someone's check shirt and long hair
they would have been a bit old for it
they did (attempt to) introduce that young guy towards the later seasons but I think he was more akin to the mid-late 90s stoner archetype than an earlier grunge-y one
I like Coldplay and idgas who knows. chris martin in a twat and I'd slap the shit out him preferably with some sort of metal implement irl but the music speaks for itself