Modern morons need to constantly be told what to think and how to feel.
They can't form a personal sense of morality nor arrive at any original conclusion, they just pick a lane and follow the given guidelines.
That's why movies with color coded parties and good guy vs bad guy stories are so popular.
>they're both wrong >quiet comfy country town with law abiding citizens raising their families >angry mentally ill loner
one of these things is not like the other
I mean I can get it if he started out assaulting the town but aside from being stubborn because he was hungry and dealing with that his friend is fricking dead and just wanted a burger he tried to deescalate for the majority of the chase.
The Sheriff was in the right. He didn’t want bums just hanging around his quiet town. Once one shows up many more. If that fricking moron would’ve just accepted the ride and kept it moving none of it would’ve happened. But dummy Rambo didn’t know how to use his words. Frick homeless bums
He was walking down a public street and didn't say a word until the sheriff harassed him.
>What kind of unironic psychopath would you need to be to side with the cops here? >Rambo shoots up an entire small town community infrastructure just because of one bad day
Sheriff had to get it on man, vet was a ticking time bomb
shoots up an entire small town community infrastructure just because of one bad day
But that was after he was unlawfully arrested and the other cops started laying into him. And after they tried to shoot him dead for pushing them over and running in fear.
>But that was after he was unlawfully arrested and the other cops started laying into him. And after they tried to shoot him dead
so he lodges a complaint, not sperg out like a basement dwelling mass shooter
Isn't it funny that police were probably in the right to kill some useless criminal Black person in Minnesota and the left and Black folk alike except that and other criminal Black person was dead by his own actions and went on a rioting and looting spree that lasted a whole summer and 30 plus deaths linked to it including an 8-year-old little girl in Atlanta because some drunk Black person got caught passed out in a Wendy's drive-thru and they went nuts there too they went all nuts for a summer burning down cities rioting and looting and the left thought that was fine. My boy Rambo had more like a justification but it's still suck that he shut up the town but lefties would have hated him nowadays because he was just another white man with a gun but give that gun to a homie that rapes women and steals kids and has a history of crime and they want to make him a saint right up there with MLK. Shit boys we lost a plot somewhere around the way.
>What kind of unironic psychopath would you need to be to side with the cops here? >Rambo shoots up an entire small town community infrastructure just because of one bad day
Sheriff had to get it on man, vet was a ticking time bomb
He actually showed quite a lot of restraint considering what they were doing to him. You can see Rambo 4 for what he could have done to them if he was actually trying to kill them.
The film is obviously trying to make Rambo more sympathetic by making all police officers complete psychos and buttholes for no reason and rambo goes on a """rampage""" that only kills one guy accidentally.
Sheriff is the symbol of isolated 'small-town' America, who doesnt want to face the reality that is the "Rambo's" created to fight a war in a far off place that everyone in 'small-town-America' would rather either forget, or have kept out of their community.
Rambo is the inconvienient reality of what happens to men as a result of a botched political-war.
Now it is.
Or you can do like 2022 America, every veteran's a hero and as long as they can cry convincingly enough to their psychologists due to "PTSD" they get free gibs for life.
Gibs YOU pay for, so yeah it's your problem.
Kek the average citizen has paid more in taxes towards "infrastructure developments" that miraculously died on the vine than they'll ever earn their entire lives
it becomes your problem when those killing machines come home and are treated like dogshit and then one of them walks through your town and gets subjected to unwarranted harrasment and abuse and then they snap and (justifiably) respond with force
He was somewhat "jealous" of Rambo because people quickly forgot about the Korean War when the Vietnam War came full swing. That contributed towards his dislike for Rambo.
That's the entire reason he's so bitter and hung-up on Rambo in the novel. He resents Vietnam bets for them pushing Korean War vets aside in the eys of the public and takes out his frustrations on Rambo. The movie doesn't explore it much but it's interesting knowing that and seeing how the Sheriff integrated back into society in contrast to Rambo's failure to adjust to civilian life.
>Rambo is the inconvienient reality of what happens to men as a result of...
...abusing the authority given to you by the people to deny citizens their lawful rights and priveleges.
>idiot zoomers think movies are about choosing sides >he thinks being an enlightened centrist fence sitting cuck is an admirable trait
words cant describe the legit OOF I just let out there champ, you either side with the Sheriff or you side with the mentally ill homeless bum trained to kill by the Gubment, no in between here chief
Your opinion is still rooted in "choosing sides" when watching movies or reading books.
This is the equivalent of dumping sugar or dumping salt on everything you eat and saying "all food is sweet, or all food is salty. Any food without either is bad, and anyone who likes food without either is a fence-sitting centrist".
So, basically, in case it doesn't process for you, you're fricking moronic.
>Millennials are in this camp too, maybe more so
Not even close. Millennials will just say both sides are wrong, make up a brand new option that makes no sense at all, then say that it's the real way.
Zoomers need to be told what side to follow, since it doesn't have anything resembling social media.
They are slaves and deserve to be treated like that. There are very few real human beings, the rest are nothing but beasts of burden who hate freedom, animals who need to obey someone else will, animals who love to follow orders.
Side with the North Vietnamese maybe? They turned out to be just as corrupt as the South, just less inept. Its sad the US and Viets lost so many people only to realize the true enemy was China all along.
>how dare they become finacially succesful and pursue their state's interests with all the infrastructure and industrial manufacturing we had them do for us?
you seem to be trying to ignore the fact that after the US left vietnam, communist china almost immediately invaded vietnam themselves and inflicted even worse destruction than the americans did.
America paid to rebuild them better than they ever were and protect them since they weren't allowed weapons so the Japanese could devote far more towards useful things. And nukes are not that big a deal, same shit as everyone else was doing with the fire bombings of cities, and Japan itself did WAY worse things to other people. A small nuclear bomb is tame in comparison since it's so fast. And they were very tiny bombs compared to anything after.
Well I'm a Canadian and even though I want Toronto to be nuked, if any other nation nuked Toronto I would never forgive them, even if they "paid to rebuild it"
Yea right, why the frick would you care that someone bombed Canada seventy years ago? Anyone who gave a shit is long dead or too old to matter and senile
>why would you care that another nation killed hundreds of thousands of your citizens and radiated your land?
You wouldn't get it, so don't worry about it.
>I'm Québécois
Yeah, and we're talking about the nation of Canada. Of course you don't care about another nation just as we don't care about you french homosexuals
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are all the corrupt NGO's and non-profits based out of Quebec?
They didn't drop nukes on Japan because it was the only way to end the war, or because "This way we will end it faster, and with fewer overall casualties", they did it because they wanted to test their new weapon. America kill hundreds of thousands of Japanese civillians because they wanted information on the performance of their new toy, and for nothing else.
We weren't 'testing it'ypu fricking moron.
They had already been tested. Hell the gun type bomb which was dropped first was so basic even moronic countries can make them (see South Africa).
It was 100% political. We KNEW the next war was with the Soviets. Korea was already divided. The Soviets had already landed on the tips of the Northern Islands. The US wanted Japan to surrender, ASAP, so the Soviets could not advance any further south.
That's it.
That's why we dropped the bomb.
They were specifically testing the weapon and its effects on people, why do you think they spent weeks collecting tens of thousands of documents worth of information on the effect of the weapon after its deployment, including the seizure and refusal to return of human remains? They wanted information on the practical effect of their new toy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because why wouldn't you? That's not why they dropped it though moron.
Given how badly communism fricked up East Germany, and given how Russia still holds on to islands seized from the Japanese during the war, nuking Japan actually did them good in the long run.
>they did it because they wanted to test their new weapon
They tested them a few times before. One of the nukes was meant for Berlin, but the USSR went in too quickly.
Americans justifying the use of nukes is hilarious. You didn't even fricking pay for the rebuilding of Japan. It was all low interest loans. Same thing as your bullshit in Europe. All loans which you got paid back. You made bank on rebuilding because nobody else had the infrastructure in order to make rebuilding possible. You are nothing but a nation of leeches. All you ever care about is money. You don't worship God, you worship Avarice
>You didn't even fricking pay for the rebuilding of Japan
Why on earth should anyone pay for the reconstruction of the aggressor nation you have defeated? You're a cuckold.
You're the one that made that claim. Americans always go on about how they rebuilt Japan and Europe when all they did was issue loans and lease equipment. You got paid motherfricker, get off your high horse
>blockades your island so you literally can't import anything and your citizens will all die and you can not function as a nation without necessary goods >why did you attack us!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Americans ignore the fact they issued a massive oil embargo on Japan. Then they go root for Russia while doing the same thing. I'm not even picking sides, just pointing out how ridiculous the hypocrisy is
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Slants invading China and starting shit in Southeast Asia >Hmm better put some brakes on this, embargo them >They ape out and attack you >A century later, morons will justify their aggression because they're big fans of an austrian manlet with a funny moustache
>serve your country in an unpopular war >save soldiers so that they can return and have normal lives >be down on your luck and just trying to get a bite to eat >police not only deny you your right to buy food at a restaraunt but arrest and torture you in their jail
No, he was not in his legal right to deny him the ability to enter the town and eat, nor was he in his legal right to arrest him when Rambo asserted his right to walk into town to eat. They were not in their right to physically attack him with a night stick the way they did in the jail.
>all the cops had to do was not be buttholes and then further not try to hunt someone like an animal
the movie makes the cops look like idiots that cant shoot straight. they were all supposed hunters yet couldnt shoot rambo? lol ridiculous
>"I just gonna grab a bite here and move along" >"YOU LITTLE SHIT I FOUGHT IN THE KOREA WAR YOU KNEW THAT!?"
John Rambo was in the 100% right, having a bite in a dirty small town dinner is the american dream
They were wrong before that anyway. >guy just wants to go buy a burger >make him leave town >he tries to go buy burger >kidnap him, beat him, humiliate him and steal his meager belongings
>They were wrong before that anyway. >>guy just wants to go buy a burger >>make him leave town >>he tries to go buy burger
The cop drops him off at the bridge, and he immediately starts walking backwards to the town, the town he was specifically told to keep away from.
He directly contradicted the orders of an authority figure, no shit he got arrested.
>The cop drops him off at the bridge, and he immediately starts walking backwards to the town, the town he was specifically told to keep away from.
so you're saying that you should just obey any order given from a police officer, regardless of how lawful that order is? the cop had no right and no basis to order John around like he did
>>The cop drops him off at the bridge, and he immediately starts walking backwards to the town, the town he was specifically told to keep away from. >so you're saying that you should just obey any order given from a police officer, regardless of how lawful that order is? the cop had no right and no basis to order John around like he did
If it comes from a cop, it IS the law.
How is an order from a cop "unlawful"? they didn't ask him to commit a crime, they ordered him to move along and go eat somewhere else, because they are paid to keep the peace.
So if a police officer gets out of his patrol car and orders you to suck his dick, you're going to just do it because 'Well if it comes from a Cop its the law!'?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>So if a police officer gets out of his patrol car and orders you to suck his dick, you're going to just do it because 'Well if it comes from a Cop its the law!'?
That's a bullshit argument because what they asked John Rambo was in the name of keeping the peace, not just to frick with him.
They (turns out) were right about him being a threat, given how he blows up the whole fricking town.
Following authority is how society operates smoothly, no matter how much you morons would like to larp as Anarchists.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's a bullshit argument because what they asked John Rambo was in the name of keeping the peace, not just to frick with him.
So.. it's not always "the law" if it comes from a cop then? There are situations where that is not the case?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So.. it's not always "the law" if it comes from a cop then? There are situations where that is not the case?
My point is that there is more to it than just following the book.
A police officer knows best what's the best course of action to keep the peace.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>what they asked John Rambo was in the name of keeping the peace, not just to frick with him.
Except he only ordered John to leave because he was fricking with him, and he had no actual reason on which to suspect that John was going to commit any crime or cause any problems in the town, since he was just walking into town. Walking into a town on your way to somewhere else and stopping off to get something to eat is not a crime.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Except he only ordered John to leave because he was fricking with him, and he had no actual reason on which to suspect that John was going to commit any crime or cause any problems in the town, since he was just walking into town. Walking into a town on your way to somewhere else and stopping off to get something to eat is not a crime. >What is profiling?
That's the difference between you and an experienced police officer doing his job.
They're supposed to prevent crime from happening, not just put a band aid after this guy explodes with his shellshock bullshit as soon as someone pushes him a little (which could've happened at the diner with other people).
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, because the people at a diner are going to kidnap John, strip him down and hose him with water and try to forcibly shave him, all while verbally abusing him, right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>Yeah, because the people at a diner are going to kidnap John, strip him down and hose him with water and try to forcibly shave him, all while verbally abusing him, right?
Rambo has a chip on his shoulder.
A simple joke or sarcastic remark about him being in Vietnam could've escalated things, yes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So if a police officer gets out of his patrol car and orders you to suck his dick
hnnnnggggggg
>It's funny how Rambo became everything that First Blood was not
orrrrr, the Sheriff was ultimately correct and Rambo was always an unhinged psychopath who just wanted to kill
Or your brain is so smooth that you didn't understand any of those movies.
Anyone saying that the cops were right, can't even follow a narrative. They just wait until the end, use the results as facts and then write a narrative shaping the start with it.
Shouldn't be surprised though, that's what their media trained them to do.
That's why I'm glad the first one is just First Blood and the sequels are Rambo. Makes it seem more like a different franchise because it essentially is
That's why I'm glad the first one is just First Blood and the sequels are Rambo. Makes it seem more like a different franchise because it essentially is
I watched First Blood Part 2 today and I thought Rambo's characterisation was still quite close to the first film. He doesn't say cheesy one-liners and this allows him a degree of seriousness. His reason for taking the mission is to gain a presidential pardon for his actions in the previous film, which bridges things neatly. The main difference in my opinion is that Rambo seems to have no trouble with PTSD in this sequel. That's odd because it's not as if his mental health could have improved while he was breaking rocks in a hard labour camp.
My guess is they were giving him some mighty fine drugs and that's why there's no PTSD Rambo in the second one. He probably had some kind of mean and they were doing some shroom therapy stuff that was a good 30/40 years off. Mind you they were killing everyday Americans at the time for having those drugs but our boy Rambo had some more people that kill for Uncle Sam so they made sure to give him a pass. Can't remember three I think he's kind of like two more over the top and doesn't have the PTSD so he's still on the drugs. By the time Rambo 2008 comes he's retired in self-exile not getting access to good drugs and has some of that PTSD back. Things didn't get any better and he still has that PTSD and Rambo 2018 or whenever that movie came out.
I don't think John would've gone back to war, he was done mentally. Also he would be a liability, makes 0 sense. First blood works because we see a man breakdown in real time.
It's explained that he is an unwitting pawn in a political game. They're using him because he is expendable and because they do not in fact want the mission to succeed - if he gets killed out there, so much the better.
>police just wants a chill, comfy small town for nice folk >Vietnam vet wants to slaughter babies
yeah, kinda think this is the difference between big and small government, champ
>cop just wants to power trip and deny people their constitutional rights based on no reason other than 'uhhhh he looked scruffy and was walking into town' >war veteran just wants to come into town and get something to eat before continuing on his journey home
There is no constitutional right to enter any private establishment.
If the sheriff was smart he just would have told the diner 'hey don't serve that bum;' the diner can 100% do that, and Rambo can't do anything about it
I'm homeless and leave everyone alone. Most others I've met do as well unless they are drug addicts. I do notice that most people fricking hate you as soon as they learn you are homeless. Not really sure why considering most of the same people pretend to want to do something about the homeless problem. So long as you don't smell, aren't on drugs or drunk, and know who to look for and who to avoid, it's mostly okay.
>I do notice that most people fricking hate you as soon as they learn you are homeless
because the immediate (justified) assumption about homeless people is that they are dangerous drug addicted morons
forget it, movies like this are too complicated for you.
stick to capeshit where they always have a clear good guy and bad guy so the children don't get confused.
And elderly wisdom is realizing that Rambo was in the right because we can not have peaceful, quiet towns when they're under the control of petty tyrants like the cop
Ascended wisdom is realizing Rambo was doomed to be a product of his conditioning while the sheriff was doomed to be a product of his environment and ego
The atomic bombings were in no way unique in terms of the scope of their destruction during the second world war. The firebombing of tokyo killed more than either individual atomic bomb. And the axis powers INCLUDING japan murdered ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more innocent civilians than were killed by any allied nation.
Ghengis Khan and Tamerlane both led to a massive depopulation orders of magnitude larger than WW2 and everyone still likes the former. You only feel this way because not enough time has passed for most people to stop caring
Oh so the imperial japanese committing genocide on a scale only eclipsed by Hitler himself is completely fine then, but america is still evil because they decided to stop selling oil to that genocidal japanese empire.
America refusing to sell oil to Japan in response to Japan's horrific slaughter of millions are two morally equivalent actions.
You definitely are not just eternally asshurt against america either.
More people died by the Soviets than either Japan or Germany. Yet you denied a war with the Soviets even though Patton was begging High Command to liberate them
>More people died by the Soviets than either Japan or Germany
Incorrect, the soviets had BY FAR the highest number of deaths, both military and civilian, of the entire war.
And the only nations who conducted systematic genocide against civilian populations were nazi germany and the imperal japanese.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Now I know you're just baiting. Nobody is this ignorant. Not even an American
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not bait. Everything in that post is factually correct.
You refusing to accept that reality is irrelevant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay anon. The Soviets never killed anybody, especially not their own. In fact, the deaths were all Covid deaths as well
>Oh so the imperial japanese committing genocide on a scale only eclipsed by Hitler himself is completely fine then
didnt happen plus they were chinese
>Modern morons need to constantly be told what to think and how to feel. >They can't form a personal sense of morality nor arrive at any original conclusion, they just pick a lane and follow the given guidelines. >That's why movies with color coded parties and good guy vs bad guy stories are so popular.
>Um, can someone tell me what to think? I can't think. Can someone think for me? I have no opinions. Tell me what I'm supposed to think. It's X year. Think? No. You do it for me.
The amount of people who are completely clueless about the actions of Japan in WW2 is pretty shocking. Somehow their murder of millions of people is swept under the rug and forgotten while everyone on the planet is constantly reminded about the holocaust.
Literally to the point that morons who didn't pay attention in school think Japan was some blameless nation caught up in a war and picked on by America for no reason.
>their murder of millions of people is swept under the rug and forgotten
theres 200 billion chinese 'people' bro, the japs killing a few of them doesnt matter
a lot of nam vets came back completely fricked up. the military basically dumped them back into society with even remotely trying to ease them back in. at of them were viewed as a threat to not only themselves but others. you don't want to be around a kill machine when he has a flashback or something like a loud noise triggers kill mode.
Rambo humanized nam vets, they weren't just violent psychopaths but humans beings trained, used and discarded by the US government.
the cops were buttholes but from their perspective they're supposed to protect the community against people like that. In the cop mind he was a violent drifter, nobody wants that in their community.
if you want to blame anybody it's primarily the US government for throwing away these men with zero thought of reintegrating them back into society.
the sheriff tries to peacefully lead him out of town and even explains why. >don't want drifters, because allowing one leads to many >town is quiet and peaceful, he's paid to keep it that way. citizens want it that way
Rambo doesn't listen and is arrested for vagrancy, resisting arrested and having a concealed weapon.
Law enforcement isn't supposed to enforce the law or something?
Rambo does nothing but resist, finger printing or whatever. back then cops regularly used force to deal with criminals who didn't cooperate. sure they're pricks but resisting doesn't really help either.
Rambo has a flashback and chimps out, at that point he's fricked. what are they supposed to do let him go?
small communities like that are quiet and safe because law enforcement keeps the rift raft and potential criminal elements out. sorry you don't live in a community like that.
>from their perspective they're supposed to protect the community against people like that. >oh frick bro this guy with a green jacket on might be a vietnam veteran theyre fricking insane you know what would be a great idea? lets arrest him, verbally and physically abuse him and try to cut him that is the perfect response to being confronted with a killing machine liable to go off on a hair trigger
Cops want to protect their own community sure, but they're still american cops and rambo should be someone they should protect. You are supposed to be Innocent until proven guilty, they acted as if he was guilty from the start by only his outward appearance. He did nothing illegal, and they grossly overreached their powers and escalated the situation. If he wanted coffee and food then let him get it, and have a cop sitting/watching him the entire time, he'll get the idea he isn't wanted without the need for their brutality.
he's a smelly long hair drifter. It's implied the sheriff has dealt with drifters before. he doesn't know Rambo is a kill machine.
he's a sheriff which means he's elected and means he answers to the community.
that community doesn't want bums and drifters.
at that time vagrancy laws were still in effect. it was a way to keep the homeless and any other undesirables out of your community. It was perfectly legal. many of them have been over turned and now most are fairly toothless.
as opposed to what, the dozens of other bombing campaigns carried out by literally every other major combatant in the war against cities? The nuclear bombings were not even the most devastating bombings of cities in the war.
it's literally a fact that as far as civilian casualties goes, the US was not even close to the worst perpetrator in WW2.
The Japanese had an unimaginably greater amount of blood on their hands.
but you said it was "THE" war crime, implying it was somehow unique in its destruction. It wasn't.
America was the only nation that displayed any restraint at all in their bombing, they initially tried precision bombing of Tokyo but it proved impossible due to the air defenses there, and they still only gave up and resorted high altitude carpet bombing after taking significant losses during multiple attempts of precision bombing.
Cut to the Imperial Japanese keeping tens of thousands of civilian woman in sexual slavery and murdering millions of people in cold blood.
>Cut to the Imperial Japanese keeping tens of thousands of civilian woman in sexual slavery and murdering millions of people in cold blood.
korean cope after their women prostitute themselves to conquerors (happens in every society at every point in history) and chinese cope and lies after being btfo by the japanese in the northeast
Call it whatever you want, the nuclear bombings at least had a legitimate practical purpose in ending the war without massively increased US casualties. As opposed to Nazi Germany and Japan who murdered orders of magnitude more people for zero reason out of pure malice.
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Anonymous
>As opposed to Nazi Germany and Japan who murdered orders of magnitude more people for zero reason out of pure malice.
didnt happen and even if it did they had a good reason for it
Then every single combatant in WW2 was guilty of war crimes, whoop de do. That was the nature of that war and modern war in general.
The point is that trying to paint a moral equivalence between civilian casualties as a result of bombings for real military purposes and the systematic genocide of MILLIONS of people, is laughable.
>Cut to the Imperial Japanese keeping tens of thousands of civilian woman in sexual slavery and murdering millions of people in cold blood.
putting defeated females in sexual slavery is based i wish our homosexual countries were willing to do that for our people go conquer some countries and distribute their women to us it would solve the incel problem
japanese sex slaves weren't exactly 'government mandated gfs'.
they were more like 'gangraped around the clock by dozens of men daily until they were crippled or literally raped to death'.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay but Americans and Soviets did that to German girls and none of you homosexuals ever complain about that
2 years ago
Anonymous
all things considered thankfully rape rates were pretty low by the US, and black offenders were sometimes shot. The soviets were the rapists, having raped nearly 250,000 women to the US's 10,000
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just how delusional are Americans?
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fact they unironcally think they are the good guys tell you everything you need to know
2 years ago
Anonymous
didn't say anything about being the good guys, jsut that we weren't as bad as the soviets. Which most people would agree that the soviets were worse than the nazis
2 years ago
Anonymous
If God exists, why does he allow America to exist?
I mean let's get real, if you claim that you side with the police instead of with Rambo then you're probably just being contrarian or you're a bootlicker of unusual proportions. There is not really much moral gray area in this movie. The police are clearly abusive and draw first blood. Rambo doesn't attack the whole town as a result, he targets just the police who are hunting him.
Both were in the right. Neither side could back down and still say they had fulfilled their duty. I am glad the sheriff survived, that Rambo accepted his begrudging surrender, that it was a begrudging surrender and the sheriff did not give up so easily. Rambo in turn did not fail to offer it and become a mindless beast lost to war, and offered his own surrender in turn. Absolute masculine film that is less understood now than it even was then.
the main cop isn't that bad of a guy, he's just a dickhead. It's all the side character cops that all behave like sociopaths and are completely unrealistic.
>hey extremely disturbed looking googly eyed sweaty crazy man, please leave you’re freaking me the frick out, there are women and children here man, please >UUUUUGAWAH I SERVED IN NAM I DON SHOT N KILT 42 LIL asiatic BABIES HELL YEAH ILL HANG ROUN THE KIDS TELL EM ALL BOUT THE EARS I WORE AS A NECKLACE I USED TO BE IMPORTANT DROVE EXPENSIVE TRUCKS ROUN FRICK YOU IM GONNA KILL SOMEONE IN TOWN THEN FIRE OFF A BELT FED LMG
That helps with nothing, Rambo never once fought for freedom even when he rampaged, he was a veteran of a bullshit war. Really the film is just a baby version of the book which is even more pessimistic and basically exists to expose the dark mangled nature of the American soul after the complete and utter failure of Vietnam, and how we were basically mortally wounded without realizing it and were all still dying of the infection we are hopeless to resist. The damage to our very souls was too much.
The sheriff being an butthole is part of what I’m talking about. America wanted to believe it was some defender of good things, a righteous thing, and Vietnam was such a shitshow it quite literally poisoned every single person irreversibly. The sheriff is a c**t because he doesn’t like nam vets, he can’t get over how it’s not necessarily Rambo’s fault, at the end of the day it’s a former zogbot with issues because he became a zogbot fighting a zogbot still deluded about the righteousness of his situation. A mortal wound. We never recovered or got any better. The last war we lost is proof of that.
>Vietnam was such a shitshow it quite literally poisoned every single person irreversibly.
No it didn't, they all unironcally think they are defending deomocracy when they attack and sanction every OPEC country that tried to act independently
Conservatives always side with the police even though the police are the ones enforcing the very laws that conservatives are against. I don't know how Charlottesville wasn't a huge wake up call that the Thin Blue Line shit needs to end
Not the police.
who cares. what purpose does siding with either of them serve?
Modern morons need to constantly be told what to think and how to feel.
They can't form a personal sense of morality nor arrive at any original conclusion, they just pick a lane and follow the given guidelines.
That's why movies with color coded parties and good guy vs bad guy stories are so popular.
let me guess, republican ?
Bubba's mum.
they're both wrong, but it's still kino.
>both
no, old guy was being unreasonable, escpecially when they let his guys torture him for no reason
>they're both wrong
>quiet comfy country town with law abiding citizens raising their families
>angry mentally ill loner
one of these things is not like the other
Inconceivable!
They drew first blood
What kind of unironic psychopath would you need to be to side with the cops here?
You have to be a borderline psychopath to ever side with cops tbqhwyf
I mean I can get it if he started out assaulting the town but aside from being stubborn because he was hungry and dealing with that his friend is fricking dead and just wanted a burger he tried to deescalate for the majority of the chase.
The Sheriff was in the right. He didn’t want bums just hanging around his quiet town. Once one shows up many more. If that fricking moron would’ve just accepted the ride and kept it moving none of it would’ve happened. But dummy Rambo didn’t know how to use his words. Frick homeless bums
so the butthole moron rural cop is in the right because he violates Johns constitutional rights?
Rules are meant to be broken sometimes.
He was walking down a public street and didn't say a word until the sheriff harassed him.
shoots up an entire small town community infrastructure just because of one bad day
But that was after he was unlawfully arrested and the other cops started laying into him. And after they tried to shoot him dead for pushing them over and running in fear.
>But that was after he was unlawfully arrested and the other cops started laying into him. And after they tried to shoot him dead
so he lodges a complaint, not sperg out like a basement dwelling mass shooter
>umm just write a formal letter to the people who tried to murder you saying they shouldn't do that?
>ummm actually you should just write a complaint to the system when the system proves corrupt
Isn't it funny that police were probably in the right to kill some useless criminal Black person in Minnesota and the left and Black folk alike except that and other criminal Black person was dead by his own actions and went on a rioting and looting spree that lasted a whole summer and 30 plus deaths linked to it including an 8-year-old little girl in Atlanta because some drunk Black person got caught passed out in a Wendy's drive-thru and they went nuts there too they went all nuts for a summer burning down cities rioting and looting and the left thought that was fine. My boy Rambo had more like a justification but it's still suck that he shut up the town but lefties would have hated him nowadays because he was just another white man with a gun but give that gun to a homie that rapes women and steals kids and has a history of crime and they want to make him a saint right up there with MLK. Shit boys we lost a plot somewhere around the way.
stallone is a israelite
>What kind of unironic psychopath would you need to be to side with the cops here?
>Rambo shoots up an entire small town community infrastructure just because of one bad day
Sheriff had to get it on man, vet was a ticking time bomb
He actually showed quite a lot of restraint considering what they were doing to him. You can see Rambo 4 for what he could have done to them if he was actually trying to kill them.
>vet was a ticking time bomb
And the Sheriff are the one triggering it, should've just watch over him until he's out of town.
Boots taste good.
In the novel the conflict makes more sense.
The film is obviously trying to make Rambo more sympathetic by making all police officers complete psychos and buttholes for no reason and rambo goes on a """rampage""" that only kills one guy accidentally.
A rightoid
With Joe Biden who was the governor of Oregon at that time and whatever happened with Rambo is also his fault
The one who didn’t kill babies
DONALD
TRUMP
The Muhjahadeen
Deez nuts
>viewing this through a 2022 lens
kys
Now that the dust has settled was this comic ironic or not?
>Captcha: PSY/tv/
The cop was correct to get him away from town. Drifters are trouble and turns out that assumption was correct.
Sheriff is the symbol of isolated 'small-town' America, who doesnt want to face the reality that is the "Rambo's" created to fight a war in a far off place that everyone in 'small-town-America' would rather either forget, or have kept out of their community.
Rambo is the inconvienient reality of what happens to men as a result of a botched political-war.
Not my problem.
You don't think it is but it is
Now it is.
Or you can do like 2022 America, every veteran's a hero and as long as they can cry convincingly enough to their psychologists due to "PTSD" they get free gibs for life.
Gibs YOU pay for, so yeah it's your problem.
Kek the average citizen has paid more in taxes towards "infrastructure developments" that miraculously died on the vine than they'll ever earn their entire lives
You deserve to have rats sewed into your skin until you become a rotting corpse.
it becomes your problem when those killing machines come home and are treated like dogshit and then one of them walks through your town and gets subjected to unwarranted harrasment and abuse and then they snap and (justifiably) respond with force
The Sheriff was a Korean War vet, you'd think if anyone could empathize what it was like having fought in a forgotten war it would be him.
He was somewhat "jealous" of Rambo because people quickly forgot about the Korean War when the Vietnam War came full swing. That contributed towards his dislike for Rambo.
there's some weird animosity between korean war vets and vietnam vets
That's the entire reason he's so bitter and hung-up on Rambo in the novel. He resents Vietnam bets for them pushing Korean War vets aside in the eys of the public and takes out his frustrations on Rambo. The movie doesn't explore it much but it's interesting knowing that and seeing how the Sheriff integrated back into society in contrast to Rambo's failure to adjust to civilian life.
>Rambo is the inconvienient reality of what happens to men as a result of...
...abusing the authority given to you by the people to deny citizens their lawful rights and priveleges.
>idiot zoomers think movies are about choosing sides
>"if I can't tell which side is gooder quickly, the movie doesn't make sense"
Truly the worst fricking generation.
But then when will he come out in a multiverse?!
>idiot zoomers think movies are about choosing sides
>he thinks being an enlightened centrist fence sitting cuck is an admirable trait
words cant describe the legit OOF I just let out there champ, you either side with the Sheriff or you side with the mentally ill homeless bum trained to kill by the Gubment, no in between here chief
Your opinion is still rooted in "choosing sides" when watching movies or reading books.
This is the equivalent of dumping sugar or dumping salt on everything you eat and saying "all food is sweet, or all food is salty. Any food without either is bad, and anyone who likes food without either is a fence-sitting centrist".
So, basically, in case it doesn't process for you, you're fricking moronic.
You type like a massive insecure homosexual. It seeps through your typing style.
Blatant projection in your post
>You type like a massive insecure homosexual
>see’s homosexuals literally everywhere he interprets them through prose
Your comment says so much about you and not the post you think you're owning.
zoomers think movies are about choosing sides
Millennials are in this camp too, maybe more so.
>Millennials are in this camp too, maybe more so
Not even close. Millennials will just say both sides are wrong, make up a brand new option that makes no sense at all, then say that it's the real way.
Zoomers need to be told what side to follow, since it doesn't have anything resembling social media.
>______ think movies are about choosing sides
you could insert any generation since the birth of cinema you absolute fricking troon
>Are the zoomers in the room with us?
They are slaves and deserve to be treated like that. There are very few real human beings, the rest are nothing but beasts of burden who hate freedom, animals who need to obey someone else will, animals who love to follow orders.
Colonel Trautman.
You know that in the book Bassman kills Rambo, right?
Side with the North Vietnamese maybe? They turned out to be just as corrupt as the South, just less inept. Its sad the US and Viets lost so many people only to realize the true enemy was China all along.
It's hysterical how the US and Vietnam are quiet allies now thanks to Chinese frickery.
Why? The U.S. and U.K. have been allied despite the U.K. being giant frickwads that tried to deny us our liberty.
Took us 150 years plus the threat of Germany to ally us. China speedran that.
It was a tax on tea that was tiny compared to what you pay now on everything you moronic mutt.
>lives on an island that's been raped by Scandinavians, French, Spanish, Moors, Romans
>calls other people "mutts"
>Muh 3 Pennys a pound is too much
How's that debt-gdp look amerimutt?
Did Americans really go to war over 3 pennies a pound?
the tea thing wasn't even close to the primary motivation for the revolution, people only remember that specifically because of the boston tea party.
>Muh stamps and tea taxes are too much
What a worthless people
They didn’t want to pay taxes after a war fought on their territory. Basically the motivation was tax evasion.
>Chinese frickery
>how dare they become finacially succesful and pursue their state's interests with all the infrastructure and industrial manufacturing we had them do for us?
you seem to be trying to ignore the fact that after the US left vietnam, communist china almost immediately invaded vietnam themselves and inflicted even worse destruction than the americans did.
Tell that to Laos snapped neck. Your shitty country made that uninvolved state the most heavily bombarded country on Earth.
>communist china almost immediately invaded vietnam themselves
lolwut
The US nuked Japan, twice, and now Japan and the US are allies
I always find that amusing
>allies
Japan is a colony
America paid to rebuild them better than they ever were and protect them since they weren't allowed weapons so the Japanese could devote far more towards useful things. And nukes are not that big a deal, same shit as everyone else was doing with the fire bombings of cities, and Japan itself did WAY worse things to other people. A small nuclear bomb is tame in comparison since it's so fast. And they were very tiny bombs compared to anything after.
>we killed you and turn you moronic with radiation for you own good
There was like a few thousand people affected by radation. Yawn, it's overblown nonsense.
Well I'm a Canadian and even though I want Toronto to be nuked, if any other nation nuked Toronto I would never forgive them, even if they "paid to rebuild it"
Yea right, why the frick would you care that someone bombed Canada seventy years ago? Anyone who gave a shit is long dead or too old to matter and senile
>why would you care that another nation killed hundreds of thousands of your citizens and radiated your land?
You wouldn't get it, so don't worry about it.
Black person detected
peak globohomosexual brain-rot
>dude just forget about your national history and identity, it doesn't matter
I'm Québécois and everyone could nuke Toronto, I don't give a frick.
>I'm Québécois
Yeah, and we're talking about the nation of Canada. Of course you don't care about another nation just as we don't care about you french homosexuals
Why are all the corrupt NGO's and non-profits based out of Quebec?
shut the frick up you frog homosexual I hope your precious """culture""" gets eradicated. Not even France likes you
>killing hundreds of thousands of civillians is no big deal
americans
They didn't drop nukes on Japan because it was the only way to end the war, or because "This way we will end it faster, and with fewer overall casualties", they did it because they wanted to test their new weapon. America kill hundreds of thousands of Japanese civillians because they wanted information on the performance of their new toy, and for nothing else.
We weren't 'testing it'ypu fricking moron.
They had already been tested. Hell the gun type bomb which was dropped first was so basic even moronic countries can make them (see South Africa).
It was 100% political. We KNEW the next war was with the Soviets. Korea was already divided. The Soviets had already landed on the tips of the Northern Islands. The US wanted Japan to surrender, ASAP, so the Soviets could not advance any further south.
That's it.
That's why we dropped the bomb.
They were specifically testing the weapon and its effects on people, why do you think they spent weeks collecting tens of thousands of documents worth of information on the effect of the weapon after its deployment, including the seizure and refusal to return of human remains? They wanted information on the practical effect of their new toy.
Because why wouldn't you? That's not why they dropped it though moron.
Yes it is
No it's not.
Given how badly communism fricked up East Germany, and given how Russia still holds on to islands seized from the Japanese during the war, nuking Japan actually did them good in the long run.
>they did it because they wanted to test their new weapon
They tested them a few times before. One of the nukes was meant for Berlin, but the USSR went in too quickly.
Americans justifying the use of nukes is hilarious. You didn't even fricking pay for the rebuilding of Japan. It was all low interest loans. Same thing as your bullshit in Europe. All loans which you got paid back. You made bank on rebuilding because nobody else had the infrastructure in order to make rebuilding possible. You are nothing but a nation of leeches. All you ever care about is money. You don't worship God, you worship Avarice
>You didn't even fricking pay for the rebuilding of Japan
Why on earth should anyone pay for the reconstruction of the aggressor nation you have defeated? You're a cuckold.
You're the one that made that claim. Americans always go on about how they rebuilt Japan and Europe when all they did was issue loans and lease equipment. You got paid motherfricker, get off your high horse
>blockades your island so you literally can't import anything and your citizens will all die and you can not function as a nation without necessary goods
>why did you attack us!
Americans ignore the fact they issued a massive oil embargo on Japan. Then they go root for Russia while doing the same thing. I'm not even picking sides, just pointing out how ridiculous the hypocrisy is
>Slants invading China and starting shit in Southeast Asia
>Hmm better put some brakes on this, embargo them
>They ape out and attack you
>A century later, morons will justify their aggression because they're big fans of an austrian manlet with a funny moustache
noooo not the poor china noooooooo
we emasculated them. if i was japanese i would grow up dreaming of revenge on america
>serve your country in an unpopular war
>save soldiers so that they can return and have normal lives
>be down on your luck and just trying to get a bite to eat
>police not only deny you your right to buy food at a restaraunt but arrest and torture you in their jail
They drew first blood, not him...
all the cops had to do was not be buttholes and then further not try to hunt someone like an animal because he hurt your feelings and emasculated you
>all the cops had to do was...
...obey the fricking law. Crazy how that works.
They were in their legal right to do that since they have special privileges
No, he was not in his legal right to deny him the ability to enter the town and eat, nor was he in his legal right to arrest him when Rambo asserted his right to walk into town to eat. They were not in their right to physically attack him with a night stick the way they did in the jail.
He detained him which he can do for literally any reason he wants.
>He detained him which he can do for literally any reason he wants.
Not in the U.S..
Rambo has the right to defend himself, which he can do for literally any reason he wants.
So you're saying the cops violated the NAP?
>all the cops had to do was not be buttholes and then further not try to hunt someone like an animal
the movie makes the cops look like idiots that cant shoot straight. they were all supposed hunters yet couldnt shoot rambo? lol ridiculous
Most cops and most hunters are fat drunk morons so yeah it's not surprising Rambo BTFO them
i really hate the guy that just started shooting at rambo when he was rock climbing. what a fricking piece of garbage im so glad he died.
He's the one that tortured Rambo the most i recall so yeah.
Childhood is viewing this through the lens of the era you live in.
Adulthood is viewing this through the lens of the time it was made in
>"I just gonna grab a bite here and move along"
>"YOU LITTLE SHIT I FOUGHT IN THE KOREA WAR YOU KNEW THAT!?"
John Rambo was in the 100% right, having a bite in a dirty small town dinner is the american dream
yeah he didn't kill any cops what a pussy
He kills that one sniping on him (throws a rock at the helicopter, making him fall to his death).
Rambo going on to basically destroy the town proved the sheriff right
>this guy looks like he might punch me in the face, better frick with him
Rambo gave them every chance to de-escalate and they failed to do so. As such, they were righteous kills.
>provoke a guy
>he gets provoked
>SEE HE'S CRAZY
how many tries does it take you to get your pants on in the morning
>implying bootlicking chuds wouldn't call rambo an antifa commie and side with the cops
Most people in here forget that when they beat and hosed him they LITERALLY TRIGGERED HIS PTSD. So yes of course the cops were in the wrong.
They were wrong before that anyway.
>guy just wants to go buy a burger
>make him leave town
>he tries to go buy burger
>kidnap him, beat him, humiliate him and steal his meager belongings
>They were wrong before that anyway.
>>guy just wants to go buy a burger
>>make him leave town
>>he tries to go buy burger
The cop drops him off at the bridge, and he immediately starts walking backwards to the town, the town he was specifically told to keep away from.
He directly contradicted the orders of an authority figure, no shit he got arrested.
>The cop drops him off at the bridge, and he immediately starts walking backwards to the town, the town he was specifically told to keep away from.
so you're saying that you should just obey any order given from a police officer, regardless of how lawful that order is? the cop had no right and no basis to order John around like he did
>>The cop drops him off at the bridge, and he immediately starts walking backwards to the town, the town he was specifically told to keep away from.
>so you're saying that you should just obey any order given from a police officer, regardless of how lawful that order is? the cop had no right and no basis to order John around like he did
If it comes from a cop, it IS the law.
How is an order from a cop "unlawful"? they didn't ask him to commit a crime, they ordered him to move along and go eat somewhere else, because they are paid to keep the peace.
>If it comes from a cop, it IS the law.
presented without further comment
So if a police officer gets out of his patrol car and orders you to suck his dick, you're going to just do it because 'Well if it comes from a Cop its the law!'?
>>So if a police officer gets out of his patrol car and orders you to suck his dick, you're going to just do it because 'Well if it comes from a Cop its the law!'?
That's a bullshit argument because what they asked John Rambo was in the name of keeping the peace, not just to frick with him.
They (turns out) were right about him being a threat, given how he blows up the whole fricking town.
Following authority is how society operates smoothly, no matter how much you morons would like to larp as Anarchists.
>That's a bullshit argument because what they asked John Rambo was in the name of keeping the peace, not just to frick with him.
So.. it's not always "the law" if it comes from a cop then? There are situations where that is not the case?
>So.. it's not always "the law" if it comes from a cop then? There are situations where that is not the case?
My point is that there is more to it than just following the book.
A police officer knows best what's the best course of action to keep the peace.
>what they asked John Rambo was in the name of keeping the peace, not just to frick with him.
Except he only ordered John to leave because he was fricking with him, and he had no actual reason on which to suspect that John was going to commit any crime or cause any problems in the town, since he was just walking into town. Walking into a town on your way to somewhere else and stopping off to get something to eat is not a crime.
>Except he only ordered John to leave because he was fricking with him, and he had no actual reason on which to suspect that John was going to commit any crime or cause any problems in the town, since he was just walking into town. Walking into a town on your way to somewhere else and stopping off to get something to eat is not a crime.
>What is profiling?
That's the difference between you and an experienced police officer doing his job.
They're supposed to prevent crime from happening, not just put a band aid after this guy explodes with his shellshock bullshit as soon as someone pushes him a little (which could've happened at the diner with other people).
Yeah, because the people at a diner are going to kidnap John, strip him down and hose him with water and try to forcibly shave him, all while verbally abusing him, right?
>>Yeah, because the people at a diner are going to kidnap John, strip him down and hose him with water and try to forcibly shave him, all while verbally abusing him, right?
Rambo has a chip on his shoulder.
A simple joke or sarcastic remark about him being in Vietnam could've escalated things, yes.
>So if a police officer gets out of his patrol car and orders you to suck his dick
hnnnnggggggg
You better beleive it, God bl;ess America
>just follow orders from police bro
Simon says do 100 jumping jacks!
Sir that was only 98, why are you resisting?
BLAM
>If it comes from a cop, it IS the law
the absolute state of bootlickers
>If it comes from a cop, it IS the law.
Someone needs to screen this and post it with an amerumutt spurdo
b8
They were both wrong and they were both right
First Blood is complete kino
It's funny how Rambo became everything that First Blood was not
>It's funny how Rambo became everything that First Blood was not
orrrrr, the Sheriff was ultimately correct and Rambo was always an unhinged psychopath who just wanted to kill
Or your brain is so smooth that you didn't understand any of those movies.
Anyone saying that the cops were right, can't even follow a narrative. They just wait until the end, use the results as facts and then write a narrative shaping the start with it.
Shouldn't be surprised though, that's what their media trained them to do.
No he wasn't. Rambo never brainlessly kills people inside little towns like a psychopath.
The sequel's he may as well be a completely different character.
That's why I'm glad the first one is just First Blood and the sequels are Rambo. Makes it seem more like a different franchise because it essentially is
I watched First Blood Part 2 today and I thought Rambo's characterisation was still quite close to the first film. He doesn't say cheesy one-liners and this allows him a degree of seriousness. His reason for taking the mission is to gain a presidential pardon for his actions in the previous film, which bridges things neatly. The main difference in my opinion is that Rambo seems to have no trouble with PTSD in this sequel. That's odd because it's not as if his mental health could have improved while he was breaking rocks in a hard labour camp.
My guess is they were giving him some mighty fine drugs and that's why there's no PTSD Rambo in the second one. He probably had some kind of mean and they were doing some shroom therapy stuff that was a good 30/40 years off. Mind you they were killing everyday Americans at the time for having those drugs but our boy Rambo had some more people that kill for Uncle Sam so they made sure to give him a pass. Can't remember three I think he's kind of like two more over the top and doesn't have the PTSD so he's still on the drugs. By the time Rambo 2008 comes he's retired in self-exile not getting access to good drugs and has some of that PTSD back. Things didn't get any better and he still has that PTSD and Rambo 2018 or whenever that movie came out.
I don't think John would've gone back to war, he was done mentally. Also he would be a liability, makes 0 sense. First blood works because we see a man breakdown in real time.
>Also he would be a liability, makes 0 sense.
It's explained that he is an unwitting pawn in a political game. They're using him because he is expendable and because they do not in fact want the mission to succeed - if he gets killed out there, so much the better.
You've convinced me.
>the police are the government
>the soldier was sent to war by the government
Uh oh
>police just wants a chill, comfy small town for nice folk
>Vietnam vet wants to slaughter babies
yeah, kinda think this is the difference between big and small government, champ
>cop just wants to power trip and deny people their constitutional rights based on no reason other than 'uhhhh he looked scruffy and was walking into town'
>war veteran just wants to come into town and get something to eat before continuing on his journey home
There is no constitutional right to enter any private establishment.
If the sheriff was smart he just would have told the diner 'hey don't serve that bum;' the diner can 100% do that, and Rambo can't do anything about it
I'm homeless and leave everyone alone. Most others I've met do as well unless they are drug addicts. I do notice that most people fricking hate you as soon as they learn you are homeless. Not really sure why considering most of the same people pretend to want to do something about the homeless problem. So long as you don't smell, aren't on drugs or drunk, and know who to look for and who to avoid, it's mostly okay.
>I do notice that most people fricking hate you as soon as they learn you are homeless
because the immediate (justified) assumption about homeless people is that they are dangerous drug addicted morons
There are a lot of homeless that don't even drink anon. Lot of guys just down on their luck. You better get use to it because it's only getting worse.
forget it, movies like this are too complicated for you.
stick to capeshit where they always have a clear good guy and bad guy so the children don't get confused.
Childhood is siding with Rambo and wanting to be a big, tough, GiJoe guy.
Adulthood is siding with the people of the town who just want a quiet life.
>the people of the town who just want a quiet life.
Some of the National Guard people were from the town, no? They couldn't wait for some action.
And elderly wisdom is realizing that Rambo was in the right because we can not have peaceful, quiet towns when they're under the control of petty tyrants like the cop
Ascended wisdom is realizing Rambo was doomed to be a product of his conditioning while the sheriff was doomed to be a product of his environment and ego
This is beautiful bait. I almost never know when Americans are being serious or just shitposting
It's not bait, it's the truth.
The atomic bombings were in no way unique in terms of the scope of their destruction during the second world war. The firebombing of tokyo killed more than either individual atomic bomb. And the axis powers INCLUDING japan murdered ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more innocent civilians than were killed by any allied nation.
Ghengis Khan and Tamerlane both led to a massive depopulation orders of magnitude larger than WW2 and everyone still likes the former. You only feel this way because not enough time has passed for most people to stop caring
>Everyone likes Ghengis Khan
lmao
He's right though
If you don't you're a cuckboy
Oh so the imperial japanese committing genocide on a scale only eclipsed by Hitler himself is completely fine then, but america is still evil because they decided to stop selling oil to that genocidal japanese empire.
America refusing to sell oil to Japan in response to Japan's horrific slaughter of millions are two morally equivalent actions.
You definitely are not just eternally asshurt against america either.
More people died by the Soviets than either Japan or Germany. Yet you denied a war with the Soviets even though Patton was begging High Command to liberate them
>More people died by the Soviets than either Japan or Germany
Incorrect, the soviets had BY FAR the highest number of deaths, both military and civilian, of the entire war.
And the only nations who conducted systematic genocide against civilian populations were nazi germany and the imperal japanese.
Now I know you're just baiting. Nobody is this ignorant. Not even an American
It's not bait. Everything in that post is factually correct.
You refusing to accept that reality is irrelevant.
Okay anon. The Soviets never killed anybody, especially not their own. In fact, the deaths were all Covid deaths as well
dumb
>Oh so the imperial japanese committing genocide on a scale only eclipsed by Hitler himself is completely fine then
didnt happen plus they were chinese
He left out the fact that more Chinese were killed by Chinese before, and after. I don't think anon there is a student of history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
lies made up by korea and china
Now do American War Crimes
Hitler didn't kill anyone
you should take your 2022 viewing lens and stick it up your autistic, incel ass
Why was America involved in the war to suppress the Qing Dynasty then?
He wasn't jabbed. Discrimination against pureblood is ok. Trust the science !
Rambo was the real hero of that movie
>Modern morons need to constantly be told what to think and how to feel.
>They can't form a personal sense of morality nor arrive at any original conclusion, they just pick a lane and follow the given guidelines.
>That's why movies with color coded parties and good guy vs bad guy stories are so popular.
He's right. You live in a false dichotomy. Come out of the cave
>Uses wojack in place of an argument.
Way to prove a point.
Midwit wojak poster
>Um, can someone tell me what to think? I can't think. Can someone think for me? I have no opinions. Tell me what I'm supposed to think. It's X year. Think? No. You do it for me.
Could you BE more of an incel.
i just watched I spit on your grave yesterday kinda feel like i watched the same movie as First Blood
why did they keep pushing him?
The amount of people who are completely clueless about the actions of Japan in WW2 is pretty shocking. Somehow their murder of millions of people is swept under the rug and forgotten while everyone on the planet is constantly reminded about the holocaust.
Literally to the point that morons who didn't pay attention in school think Japan was some blameless nation caught up in a war and picked on by America for no reason.
Yeah that was the deal for becoming an American colony
>their murder of millions of people is swept under the rug and forgotten
theres 200 billion chinese 'people' bro, the japs killing a few of them doesnt matter
Japan and China attacking each other is Not My Problem
It's ok as long as it's not the heckin israeliteerinos.
THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD.
NOT ME.
What about the Mexicans in the last movie?
first beheading
Didn't they pimp out his not daughter and then kill her?
Yeah. They kept her drugged out and she OD'd. but he already had gone to Mexico to do literally nothing. The first half of that movie went nowhere.
a lot of nam vets came back completely fricked up. the military basically dumped them back into society with even remotely trying to ease them back in. at of them were viewed as a threat to not only themselves but others. you don't want to be around a kill machine when he has a flashback or something like a loud noise triggers kill mode.
Rambo humanized nam vets, they weren't just violent psychopaths but humans beings trained, used and discarded by the US government.
the cops were buttholes but from their perspective they're supposed to protect the community against people like that. In the cop mind he was a violent drifter, nobody wants that in their community.
if you want to blame anybody it's primarily the US government for throwing away these men with zero thought of reintegrating them back into society.
>lets protect the community by beating the shit out of this guy and stealing his property
the sheriff tries to peacefully lead him out of town and even explains why.
>don't want drifters, because allowing one leads to many
>town is quiet and peaceful, he's paid to keep it that way. citizens want it that way
Rambo doesn't listen and is arrested for vagrancy, resisting arrested and having a concealed weapon.
Law enforcement isn't supposed to enforce the law or something?
Rambo does nothing but resist, finger printing or whatever. back then cops regularly used force to deal with criminals who didn't cooperate. sure they're pricks but resisting doesn't really help either.
Rambo has a flashback and chimps out, at that point he's fricked. what are they supposed to do let him go?
small communities like that are quiet and safe because law enforcement keeps the rift raft and potential criminal elements out. sorry you don't live in a community like that.
>rift raft
>from their perspective they're supposed to protect the community against people like that.
>oh frick bro this guy with a green jacket on might be a vietnam veteran theyre fricking insane you know what would be a great idea? lets arrest him, verbally and physically abuse him and try to cut him that is the perfect response to being confronted with a killing machine liable to go off on a hair trigger
Cops want to protect their own community sure, but they're still american cops and rambo should be someone they should protect. You are supposed to be Innocent until proven guilty, they acted as if he was guilty from the start by only his outward appearance. He did nothing illegal, and they grossly overreached their powers and escalated the situation. If he wanted coffee and food then let him get it, and have a cop sitting/watching him the entire time, he'll get the idea he isn't wanted without the need for their brutality.
he's a smelly long hair drifter. It's implied the sheriff has dealt with drifters before. he doesn't know Rambo is a kill machine.
he's a sheriff which means he's elected and means he answers to the community.
that community doesn't want bums and drifters.
>It's implied the sheriff has dealt with drifters before.
so the cop routinely violates peoples rights, cool. what a great hero
at that time vagrancy laws were still in effect. it was a way to keep the homeless and any other undesirables out of your community. It was perfectly legal. many of them have been over turned and now most are fairly toothless.
There are no heroes, only villains.
And that villain was the United States Federal Government.
Did you read the part where nuclear bombs were thrown on non-combatants, which is THE war crime?
as opposed to what, the dozens of other bombing campaigns carried out by literally every other major combatant in the war against cities? The nuclear bombings were not even the most devastating bombings of cities in the war.
it's literally a fact that as far as civilian casualties goes, the US was not even close to the worst perpetrator in WW2.
The Japanese had an unimaginably greater amount of blood on their hands.
As opposed to nothing, Dresden was a war crime, Kalavryta was a war crime, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimes.
but you said it was "THE" war crime, implying it was somehow unique in its destruction. It wasn't.
America was the only nation that displayed any restraint at all in their bombing, they initially tried precision bombing of Tokyo but it proved impossible due to the air defenses there, and they still only gave up and resorted high altitude carpet bombing after taking significant losses during multiple attempts of precision bombing.
Cut to the Imperial Japanese keeping tens of thousands of civilian woman in sexual slavery and murdering millions of people in cold blood.
>Cut to the Imperial Japanese keeping tens of thousands of civilian woman in sexual slavery and murdering millions of people in cold blood.
korean cope after their women prostitute themselves to conquerors (happens in every society at every point in history) and chinese cope and lies after being btfo by the japanese in the northeast
Two wrongs don't make a right. The deliberate bombing of civillians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki constitute a war crime.
Call it whatever you want, the nuclear bombings at least had a legitimate practical purpose in ending the war without massively increased US casualties. As opposed to Nazi Germany and Japan who murdered orders of magnitude more people for zero reason out of pure malice.
>As opposed to Nazi Germany and Japan who murdered orders of magnitude more people for zero reason out of pure malice.
didnt happen and even if it did they had a good reason for it
Yes, moron, military actions against civilians are the quintessence of a war crime. Torturing of POWs is another.
Then every single combatant in WW2 was guilty of war crimes, whoop de do. That was the nature of that war and modern war in general.
The point is that trying to paint a moral equivalence between civilian casualties as a result of bombings for real military purposes and the systematic genocide of MILLIONS of people, is laughable.
>Cut to the Imperial Japanese keeping tens of thousands of civilian woman in sexual slavery and murdering millions of people in cold blood.
putting defeated females in sexual slavery is based i wish our homosexual countries were willing to do that for our people go conquer some countries and distribute their women to us it would solve the incel problem
japanese sex slaves weren't exactly 'government mandated gfs'.
they were more like 'gangraped around the clock by dozens of men daily until they were crippled or literally raped to death'.
Okay but Americans and Soviets did that to German girls and none of you homosexuals ever complain about that
all things considered thankfully rape rates were pretty low by the US, and black offenders were sometimes shot. The soviets were the rapists, having raped nearly 250,000 women to the US's 10,000
Just how delusional are Americans?
The fact they unironcally think they are the good guys tell you everything you need to know
didn't say anything about being the good guys, jsut that we weren't as bad as the soviets. Which most people would agree that the soviets were worse than the nazis
If God exists, why does he allow America to exist?
OK Yank
there's no such thing as a "war crime" the homosexuals who invented that idea never heard the phrase "alls fair in love and war"
The Viet Cong
I mean let's get real, if you claim that you side with the police instead of with Rambo then you're probably just being contrarian or you're a bootlicker of unusual proportions. There is not really much moral gray area in this movie. The police are clearly abusive and draw first blood. Rambo doesn't attack the whole town as a result, he targets just the police who are hunting him.
Just comply. If cops tell you to give up your guns do it. If cops tell you to wear a mask, do it. If cops tell you to get vaccinated. Just comply.
Both were in the right. Neither side could back down and still say they had fulfilled their duty. I am glad the sheriff survived, that Rambo accepted his begrudging surrender, that it was a begrudging surrender and the sheriff did not give up so easily. Rambo in turn did not fail to offer it and become a mindless beast lost to war, and offered his own surrender in turn. Absolute masculine film that is less understood now than it even was then.
The NVA
more like the ACAB
Don't side with the corrupt cops.
the main cop isn't that bad of a guy, he's just a dickhead. It's all the side character cops that all behave like sociopaths and are completely unrealistic.
>hey extremely disturbed looking googly eyed sweaty crazy man, please leave you’re freaking me the frick out, there are women and children here man, please
>UUUUUGAWAH I SERVED IN NAM I DON SHOT N KILT 42 LIL asiatic BABIES HELL YEAH ILL HANG ROUN THE KIDS TELL EM ALL BOUT THE EARS I WORE AS A NECKLACE I USED TO BE IMPORTANT DROVE EXPENSIVE TRUCKS ROUN FRICK YOU IM GONNA KILL SOMEONE IN TOWN THEN FIRE OFF A BELT FED LMG
It’s a mystery man
>viewing this through a 2022 lens, who in the actual frick am I meant to side with?
With Johnny Rambo of course you soulless frick.
Depends if your support freedom or tyranny
That helps with nothing, Rambo never once fought for freedom even when he rampaged, he was a veteran of a bullshit war. Really the film is just a baby version of the book which is even more pessimistic and basically exists to expose the dark mangled nature of the American soul after the complete and utter failure of Vietnam, and how we were basically mortally wounded without realizing it and were all still dying of the infection we are hopeless to resist. The damage to our very souls was too much.
Hello Sherrif
The sheriff being an butthole is part of what I’m talking about. America wanted to believe it was some defender of good things, a righteous thing, and Vietnam was such a shitshow it quite literally poisoned every single person irreversibly. The sheriff is a c**t because he doesn’t like nam vets, he can’t get over how it’s not necessarily Rambo’s fault, at the end of the day it’s a former zogbot with issues because he became a zogbot fighting a zogbot still deluded about the righteousness of his situation. A mortal wound. We never recovered or got any better. The last war we lost is proof of that.
>Vietnam was such a shitshow it quite literally poisoned every single person irreversibly.
No it didn't, they all unironcally think they are defending deomocracy when they attack and sanction every OPEC country that tried to act independently
Democracy is a false God
Rambo, duh. Why would you honestly side with the cops in this movie? They're monsters.
Conservatives always side with the police even though the police are the ones enforcing the very laws that conservatives are against. I don't know how Charlottesville wasn't a huge wake up call that the Thin Blue Line shit needs to end
>Conservatives always side with the police
lol wut
Rambo, you fricking idiot