If it was modern China he'd be in the right given their repressive attitude towards Central Asian & Steppe cultures, but it is not modern China. He is an outside force, relatively unknown, burning all in his way to conquer a people who were just minding their own business farming rice and practicing calligraphy.
Therefore, he is the villain.
the mongols pretty much conquered the whole known world at some point and were ruthless in doing so, everybody was afraid of them, china specially got their ass kicked by mongols so hard that they lost like 2500 years of technological advancements
>2500 years of technological advancements
damn homie were they building pyramids too? Fricking mongols really fricked shit up if they didn't kill people arround the globe we'd be living like the jetsons by now.
Steppe nomads were cartoonishly barbaric towards the chinese. They had to invent gunpowder and make a big wall just so the carnivorous horse/eagle frickers would leave them alone for a short time before getting stomped by them later.
It's really amusing to read the Records of the Grand historian where the author talks about the Xiongnu. Because he worships Gaozu as the near divine founder of the Han dynasty, and has to talk around the fact that Gaozu got b***h-slapped into paying tribute to the nomad barbarians, and that for about a century the Xiongnu just invaded China whenever they felt like it and there was precious little the Han could do about it.
It's basically the same story for Nomadic Herders vs. Settled Farmers everywhere. The nomads win one on one but are hamstrung by being disorganized. The Nomads get organized and stomp everyone. The Farmers win long term because the bastards can just out breed and out organize the nomads.
>elty food.[15]
In 618–619, when the newly established Tang dynasty was fighting to take control of the whole country, rebel soldiers tried to conquer a district near Luoyang. The inhabitants resisted, and the siege situation lead to famine and cannibalism on both sides. The rebel soldiers "took to abducting children, whom they steamed and ate." Their leader boldly declared: "Of all the delicious things to eat, none surpasses human flesh. As long as there are people in neighboring districts we have nothing to fear from famine." He is said to have used a large inverted bell with a capacity of 200 bushels (7 cubic metres) to stew "the flesh of children and women", which was then divided among his officers and some of his 200,000 soldiers.[16]
Do you know anything about history?
>conquest is…le bad
Only thing he did wrong was lose.
>lose
Congrats, if you lose you're the bad guy, how intelligent of you! Have a star.
Is there any animation where the bad guy actually wins?
>Is there any animation where the bad guy actually wins?
Gargoyles. Xanatos frequently won.
Riddler wins in his first appearance on B: TAS.
Wish
It's pretty common in anime.
Season 2 of RWBY
It was incredibly obnoxious
Aren't you a genius
You know mulin is a fiction even on the original myth right?
Step nomads are cartoonishly evil if you piss them off.
No we're not.
Do you know Jack shit about the Huns or are you one of Attila's descendants playing defence?
Didnt he slaughter an entire village children included for no reason? Seems pretty evil to me
>How many people does it take to deliver a message?
>One.
Every single one of his lines is pure gold.
It's such a shame he didn't get more screen time.
I think he actually had a perfect amount of screentime. He was as evil as he needed to be and had stellar lines.
To be fair those were soldiers. I think thats fair game. If the roles were reverse they wouldnt show mercy on him neither
If it was modern China he'd be in the right given their repressive attitude towards Central Asian & Steppe cultures, but it is not modern China. He is an outside force, relatively unknown, burning all in his way to conquer a people who were just minding their own business farming rice and practicing calligraphy.
Therefore, he is the villain.
You know that’s a lie
OP is a homosexual
the mongols pretty much conquered the whole known world at some point and were ruthless in doing so, everybody was afraid of them, china specially got their ass kicked by mongols so hard that they lost like 2500 years of technological advancements
These weren't Mongols, though. China wasn't united when there were mongols. Them being hung makes no sense, so they'd most likely be Xiongnu.
>2500 years of technological advancements
damn homie were they building pyramids too? Fricking mongols really fricked shit up if they didn't kill people arround the globe we'd be living like the jetsons by now.
Steppe nomads were cartoonishly barbaric towards the chinese. They had to invent gunpowder and make a big wall just so the carnivorous horse/eagle frickers would leave them alone for a short time before getting stomped by them later.
It's really amusing to read the Records of the Grand historian where the author talks about the Xiongnu. Because he worships Gaozu as the near divine founder of the Han dynasty, and has to talk around the fact that Gaozu got b***h-slapped into paying tribute to the nomad barbarians, and that for about a century the Xiongnu just invaded China whenever they felt like it and there was precious little the Han could do about it.
It's basically the same story for Nomadic Herders vs. Settled Farmers everywhere. The nomads win one on one but are hamstrung by being disorganized. The Nomads get organized and stomp everyone. The Farmers win long term because the bastards can just out breed and out organize the nomads.
>villain is evil
Is it ever actually stated that he's evil?
>elty food.[15]
In 618–619, when the newly established Tang dynasty was fighting to take control of the whole country, rebel soldiers tried to conquer a district near Luoyang. The inhabitants resisted, and the siege situation lead to famine and cannibalism on both sides. The rebel soldiers "took to abducting children, whom they steamed and ate." Their leader boldly declared: "Of all the delicious things to eat, none surpasses human flesh. As long as there are people in neighboring districts we have nothing to fear from famine." He is said to have used a large inverted bell with a capacity of 200 bushels (7 cubic metres) to stew "the flesh of children and women", which was then divided among his officers and some of his 200,000 soldiers.[16]
On the subject of your pic, I thought eating mummies because of a mistranslation was just a myth?
The only thing the Mongols did wrong was not finishing the jobs
I'm pretty sure all the murder and rape was a more damning accusation.
If you're being conquested then why don't you just move?
>inb4 they'll enslave you
yeah but they gotta catch me first
>pillages your wife
>"Wife? You must be mistaken. I'm in a platonic domestic partnership with my fellow male soldier, Ping."
Bold of you to assume they haven't been cannibalized, yet.
god bless Chinese battle statistics and history, shit is a riot.