This isn't austere minimalism, it's laziness. His cinematography, mise en scene, and color grading remind me of a low poly 90s videogame.
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Villeneuve movies are boring to look at
Don't insult low poly 90s videogames like that.
>remind me of a low poly 90s videogame
maybe thats why its kino
seethe more that you were born after all the cool shit happened, kid
>Actually videogames are the REAL kino
You are the cancer killing Cinemaphile
Not that anon and I’m not reading all that gossip about a chink either. Games on average have much more soul put into them than the average tv show. Films blow them both out of the water [/spoiler] and so does going outside[/spoiler]
>ask a castlevania fan
Stopped reading at precisely this point. There’s only one thing I’d ask a castlevania fan to do, and that would be to jump off a building. And when I say “ask”, I’d have something sharp to jab then with. So I don’t know if that counts as asking. Certainly not politely it doesn’t.
This image is entirely wrong and written by a moron. He was fired because of PT. He funneled money away from completing the already behind schedule and over-budget MGSV to make another game with Del Taco using an IP he did not have permission to use,
>Konami is a good boi who dindu nuffin
moronic. Look at the way Konami runs Yu-Gi-Oh. They put in minimum effort for maximum profit.
Not when Sarah Gadon is on screen
shes an angel I love her
I love Sarah Gadon
Isnt she going to be cast as Irulan?
They casted Florence Puggo already
WHAT? Pugh looks nothing like an aristocratic galactic princess. They should recast the character!
>DUNC looks nothing like Dune
That's the whole point
Chalamet looks exactly like Paul in the book, more than any Paul version before
Come on Brolin, writing poetry for him wasn't enough simping for your standards?
Except Paul wasn’t a twentysomething low-T closeted twink. Imagine running a ten thousand year eugenics program to create the parent of the ultimate human and having them turn out looking like a malnourished homeless male prostitute with all the charisma and magnetism of a chewed chicken bone.
Confirmed for not even reading the book
>““Is he not small for his age, Jessica?” the old woman asked.”
>“Beside the man walked a youth with the same dark hair, but rounder in the face. The youth seemed small for the fifteen years Kynes knew him to have.”
>“The Emperor was studying Feyd-Rautha, seeing the heavy shoulders, the thick muscles. He turned to look at Paul—a stringy whipcord of a youth, not as desiccated as the Arrakeen natives, but with ribs there to count, and sunken in the flanks so that the ripple and gather of muscles could be followed under the skin.”
all directly from the book. he's literally so skinny you can count his ribs just by looking at him while also looking young, cope more
>The Emperor was studying Feyd-Rautha, seeing the heavy shoulders, the thick muscles
They should have had the new feyd actor hit the gym to get a bit more athletic. He's barely bigger than twiggy twink timmy!!
Paul was not the intended result of the breeding program. The Bene Gesserit planned for Jessica to have a girl, and then breed her with Feyd Rautha. Jessica defied them because Bene Gesserit have 100% total control of their bodies, they can neutralize poison by altering their metabolism and they can alter a fetus' sex in the womb. Read the book Black person.
Does that mean Paul is ftm or intersex?
No, that's troony cope. Jessica either changed the fetus' chromosome or refused to change it when she detected XY. It isn't clear which one happened.
>parent of the ultimate human
Yeah but Paul wasn't the true Kwisatz Haderach. Even Leto might not have been, hence training the Duncans' serial memories over the millenia. If only Frank had lived to write book 7...
>Paul wasn't the true Kwisatz Haderach
Yes, showing that for all their superhuman abilities the Bene Gesserit were still human and therefore subject to failings.
If Paul had been female (let’s say ‘Paula’) wand bred with Feyd, would the child have been the true KH? Or is that a philosophical question of moot pointlessness?
Yes, it is pointless to wonder, hence why literally no time is wasted on it in the book. Jessica loved Duke Leto, so she gave him what he wanted - a son. This turned out to be a potential Kwisatz Haderach, but he was not pre born, so he was not aware of his own importance and not willing to assume the responsibility of saving mankind by becoming the worst tyrant in history. Leto II, being pre born and the true Kwisatz Haderach, possessed all of ancestors memories in the womb, both male and female, so he knew what had to be done and did it.
Yet Alia was pre born and regarded by the Bene Gesserit (and others) as an abomination. It’s been a long time since I read the books, care to share your perspectives on why she was reviled?
She was possessed (basically went insane) by her ancestral memory of the Baron (the Atreides had Harkonnen blood due to the breeding program). This served as an effective reminder for Leto and Ghanima to be wary. Bene Gesserit considered all those who were pre born to be Abomination because none before Leto managed to keep the core of their identities. Leto managed it by selecting an ancient warlord (probably Genghis Khan or something) to take precedent over the others. For some reason this worked, something like that.
Remember that the Bene Gesserit really had no idea what they were doing in the first place. The term Kwisatz Haderach comes from ancient esoteric israeli texts which roughly translates to "one who can be in many places at once" or "one who leaps forward quickly". Obviously leaping forward represents an evolutionary leap, and the BG basically wanted all the aspects of a Reverend Mother, a Mentat, and a Guild Navigator all in one, and then they wanted to control him. A male who could unlock the male side of Other Memory to see all of the past, a Mentat who could compute instantly in the present, and a Guild Navigator that could see further into the future with the Spice than anyone else. But their plans were foiled by Jessica when she had Paul, and then again with Leto subjugating the entire known universe.
Such an undertaking is unprecedented, which is why it's such a good story. It is my belief that Leto was grooming the Duncan Gholas through Serial Memory to become either the next or the true Kwisatz Haderach after he was gone. In that case, I suppose you could consider a Ghola having their memories reawakened with intense trauma or emotion to be a kind of pre born. It's not entirely clear.
Did they ever try producing KHs later on? They secured Feyd's bloodline with lady Fenring, surely they could have made a few emergency attempts at making their own as a counter to Paul...
No, in Heretics and Chapterhouse they were too afraid that another would subjugate them again, which is why they considered killing the 15 year old Duncan Ghola, which is why people think Duncan #48820 possessed memories from his time with Leto which would allow him to somehow become either another Kwisatz Haderach, or something comparable to it.
In the shitty sequels by Brian, there's some cringe shit about a "dark Paul" but I wouldn't waste my time with them. The greatest curse of enjoying Dune if that Frank never finished it.
>surely they could have made a few emergency attempts at making their own as a counter to Paul...
It was too late. Paul already had Chani pregnant in a few years and then Leto and Ghanima figured out how to embark upon the Golden Path before they were even born, and Leto's rule was absolute save a few pointless rebellions. One time a sister tried to infiltrate Leto's court but was immediately found out. He was literally god and countered their every move effortlessly.
>Leto managed it by selecting an ancient warlord (probably Genghis Khan or something)
read the books homie
>“You have an admirable directness,” Leto said. “I’m a community dominated by one who was ancient and surpassingly powerful. He fathered a dynasty which endured for three thousand of our years. His name was Harum and, until his line trailed out in the congenital weaknesses and superstitions of a descendant, his subjects lived in a rhythmic sublimity. They moved unconsciously with the changes of the seasons. They bred individuals who tended to be short-lived, superstitious, and easily led by a god-king. Taken as a whole, they were a powerful people. Their survival as a species became habit.”
Does a KH have to be preborn?
I remember Fenring was another close-but-no-cigar KH. He was described as a genetic eunuch, so I assumed that was why the Bene Gesserit didn't initiate him fully.
I know that you fricking spastic, that’s why I used neutral pronouns.
I like the low-poly look
makes me think of cool old shit like Deus Ex and System Shock 2
>I like the low-poly look
makes me think of cool old shit like Deus Ex and System Shock 2
no greentext so you look like that and say that
You fricked up the greentext moron newbie
did they straight up steal sandcrawlers from star wars
based on the fact that there are armies coming out of them, I would say that those are transport shuttles being dropped off the guild highliner in orbit
I haven't watched the movie yet, but I read the book
You guys get that Dune predates the original Star Wars by over a decade, right? Lucas very blatantly ripped DUNE off (among many other things), not the other way around
Dune was a novel not a picture book, comic book, or movie
Whats the beef here? That spaceships don't have pink highlights and strobe lights? Or that a desert planet based on the middle east has a lot of sand?
>The desert must look boring because that's realistic
It's an endless wasteland of death, dust, and sun. It's almost entirely featureless outside of the single city and some "hard rock" places where sietches are (sietches that are hidden from the world).
I genuinely don't understand your complaint. Can you try using words and not basedjaks?
>The desolate wasteland must look and feel boring
You are boring.
>I can't articulate a single complaint
>I can't make a single suggestion of how I would improve it
Concession accepted. GG no re.
Villeneuve fundamentally can't make an intriguing scene. His photography is lifeless and pseuds like you mistake his lack of talent as "minimalism". Every single frame of DUNC looks like flat shit. He plop objects in the middle of scenes with no care for COMPOSITION or color gradient. His so called style is midwit incarnate. He is utterly artless, a true prophet of an ugly age.
>lifeless
buzzword
>intriguing
buzzword
>he plop objects in the middle of scenes
nothing in here is in the middle of the shot
tl;dr you're a pretentious moron with no real argument and certainly no ideas of how to make a better movie.
you calling things you can’t refute a buzzword isn’t an argument
>Normal words are le buzzwords
Insane cope. You have nothing.
>Nooo stop being pretentious all art is le equally valid
You have to go back
He also alters the characters too much. In an age of lazy girlboss characters he changes Lady Jessica into a whimpering, simpering neurotic. Duncan Idaho apparently has free rein to treat Paul disrespectfully, as though he were a little brother. The Baron is a torpid nonentity, Shadout Mapes a mere footnote, Dr Yueh reduced to a plot device. All for what? An extra twenty minutes of landing scenes and Sardaukar battle rituals and visiting the old baron’s grave in Caladan?
Villeneuve wanted to avoid exposition dumps, I get that, but the background is the skeleton and the characters the flesh. And he completely failed to unite the two.
I agree completely. Jessica was one of my favorite characters, Duncan Idaho gets very interesting after the first book.
Momoa cannot play the DI we see in the later books, he doesn't have the chops. I think Villeneuve's talk about wanting to do Messiah is idle chatter and no more will be made
Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho is actually one of the only decent aspects of Dunc. Look at Chalamet. I'd talk down to him too.
Well yes, Paul's character is also very butchered. For example in the tent scene when he realizes he is something more than a Mentat - when he starts to realize he is an aberration, the Kwisatz Haderach - he changes completely, descending into cold logic and oracular vision, explaining everything he sees in his mind's eye to Jessica. In the movie, the israelite b***hboy just screams at mommy because he's confused and angry, and then he goes back to normal. It's a total meme.
Yeah. There's really no point in adapting anything beyond the first book unless you're going all the way to God Emperor anyway, which is a Sisyphean task. There is zero chance it will happen, and if it does, it will suck.
Lady Jessica is my favorite character in book 1 and I hate women. She is basically the main character until the time skip, so many plot points revolve around her: Her feuding with Leto retainers, discovering the BS social engineering on Arakis, even the knife fight Paul has with the one Fremem does happen because of her.
All that and how the book deal with her inner conflict of juggling all these identities; her BG mission, being a wife, queen and mother. Her emotions of grief and trying to keep Paul alive, its all very motherly and sympathetic.
She’s a deeply complex character in the books, and in the Lynch dune too. Bur in DUNC she seems to forget her Bene Gesserit training whenever emotion is involved (which is the exact opposite of the way BG training works in literally every other presentation).
The clash between her maternal sentiments and the training makes her much more interesting. A clear improvement from the book.
I liked the visuals, apart from the costumes from the soldiers. Not distinctive enough and looked like cheap props, like enemies from Power Rangers or something.
>The clash between her maternal sentiments and the training makes her much more interesting
No it doesn't you fricking spastic
>The clash between her maternal sentiments and the training makes her much more interesting
Lynch Dune: clearly worried but in control of herself. Presents strength to Paul to inspire him and demonstrate that Bene Gesserit training can overcome mental obstacles.
Villenoob DUNC: Pathetic whimpering mess, projecting weakness and lacking dignity. This is not how a Ducal consort and mother of a future Duke should be acting, even without Bene Gesserit training.
Dude you are fricking moronic. She becomes a completely different character when it's plot convenient to forget her Bene Gesserit training. In reality, this training is so ingrained that it is second nature, it replaces their instincts. They literally gain the memories of every single previous Reverend Mother when they undergo the Spice Agony and complete the training. Thousands of past lives of discipline to draw on and you think the movie portrays this better. Black person you are fricking moronic, it is portrayed like shit because there's no internal monologuing from Jessica about her split loyalties and why she's doing what she's doing, which was probably more than half of her character. In the movie she's literally just following a script.
Its very obvious what Dennis tried to do: Reduce her character so the every day women could see herself in her. Its dumb direction but the entire movie is full of this little choices to dumb down the plot.
DUNC is a movie made for morons, they wanted SW levels of profit, ironically you have to be a moron yourself to believe it had potential to do so.
To be fair DUNC was my first exposure to Dune, and I only watched it because my friend really loved the books and wanted to get me into it. I would say that it does a fairly good job at that - if you liked the movie and wanted more, and better, then read the books. But the more I think about it the more I realize how bad the movie was in comparison. Dune is the greatest sci fi book series of all time btw.
Author! Author!
Completely right and true.
She is ruined on the scene when she is randomly crying on a corner of the palace because she feels pressure or whatever. On the book when she does cry, it was her absolute boiling point, having barely survive the palace attack, lost her husband and becoming aware that she is pregnant, allowing herself a moment of weakness in front of her son, the only person in the world she has now alone in the desert.
Can you go back to Pitchfork when you're done here or did you sign a non-compete agreement?
DUNC is shit for c**ts, c**t
Pitchfork would give DUNC a 10/10 because it has Chud deterrent Zendaya in it.
I don’t even know what pitchfork is, sorry. Is that like the Instagram my grandkids are always on?
this is true for D U N C but i dont think it's true for 2049. but yeah his minimalistic visual style here mixes badly with the monotonous fun-less, serious conduct of his actors
the result is bone-dry, stark, austere
your argument really fell apart by this point
You literally can't defend this
Sure yeah that looks bad. Nice goalpost switching though
I believe that move was actually invented by Kevin Spacey.
>Anon had to zoom in 300% and crop 80% of the frame out for a moment that lasts half a second in the background.
The cope is real.
You've noticed that you're the one insisting that the desert must not look and feel boring while anon gave you a reasonable explanation for why it does?
>Let me logically explain to you why this movie looks boring
You are the reason movies are shit now.
>where's the bright colorful lights and le alien jazz bands
Zoomer brains are mush
It honestly looked better to me on second watch. Plus I watched the behind the scenes. That might have helped.
>I like the low poly look
It's funny to me that I actually had to look closely to confirm that that was indeed a screenshot from the $165 million movie, and not some autistic RTS from when I was a kid.
That's not an example of low poly, do you even know what that means?
you're talking to a clueless zoomer probably
this mogs dunc though
that is dunc
>raw utilitarianism depicted as the dystopian mode of existence it is
Villeneuve is a savant at doing this, BR2049 and DUNC were great examples of this.
this is like when /misc/ says it’s actually redpilled for white kids to get raped and beheaded
>claim to be more patriotic than everyone else
>"Dude Putin is b-b-b-b-based! Lol support China for the meme!"
>"IS THAT A TRANS FLAG IN VIDYA!? IS THAT A BLACK PERSON ON TV!? AAAAAA AMERICA IS FALLING DEMOCRACY IS FAILING AAAAAAA"
/misc/ is literal dissident culture and should be purged from this site.
>UHHH UHHH but then they'll just be all over the website!
/qa/ lost.
>troony loves DUNC
Many such cases
you will never cum inside a woman.
You will never be a woman
good, that means I can put my penis in one instead. something you've obviously never experienced.
people who care about this shit radiate anti-pussy waves.
if you disagree with me it means you (thing i can’t prove)
it took you 20 minutes to come up with that hypocritical horseshit? lol, perchance even lmao.
a complete and utter zozzle
damn you type like a real pussy soaker
how would you know what a pussy soaker sounds like if you've never even heard a soaked pussy?
you don’t even have ears
jokes on you I have 3 ears and 5 nipples.
You're going to -ACK! yourself before anyone ever touches your crotch gash, troon.
You're a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.
>Hurr dystopian utilitarianism means every scene must look boring
This just looks like the diffuse lighting pass. What the frick?
do you think villeneuve and brolin spitroasted chalamet every day after filming ended?
I agree, he's too self-indulgent now. Incendies was fantastic, Polytechnique was great, Sicario was decent. He's the kind of filmmaker that thrives when constrained, but absolutely sucks when given big projects.
Chronicles of Riddick did the bombastic invading space empire better.
ITT people who couldn't pick a Rembrandt from a Basquiat.
>337 KB
>ITT people who couldn't pick a Rembrandt from a Basquiat.
i can because i know that basquiat made moronic meme scribbles and was only praised because he was black and then died young
Villeneuve is the contemporary Basquiat. He could film himself shitting against a grey backdrop and his fans would buy the 4k dolby surround sound edition to hear his farts better.
rembrandt straight up copied that arm from davinci,
then stuck it on at a weird angle to make it fit,
then put everyone at one end of the table to get their faces in and now it looks like the last supper,
fricking hack
>sci fi version of downtown Toronto.
Canadians are a blight on this world and enemies of beauty.
one of the most visually iconic scenes of the decade.
For browncels/Snyderjeets maybe, but not for us normal White sex havers.
Stolen from anime
yeah ok
It's literally everywhere in popculture and memes. The colors, the theme, the emotion. It's an iconic scene.
ftfy
>is 99% cgi with abusive artless use of color
>Analogous deliberate color scheme to set the theme
>2 real actors green screened together
try again
>99% cgi
nope
>Diagnosis: Severe Plagio-Refnosis.
>Prognosis: grim.
His shitty style worked for 2049, but it's awful for Dune
2049 looked good in theater but at home it seems so cheap and fake
the sets feel like stage play more than film at times.
only browns like that shitty scene lol
Yea Br2049 had some amazing scenes
He's just playing it safe with dune because the lynch film was too weird
>He's just playing it safe with dune because the lynch film was too weird
So he saw a more daring director receive criticism for an imperfect final product and decided that he'd better not try anything bold, lest he be criticized also.
Dennis is a timid director who plays it safe and obedient. Not the right man for the job!
>an imperfect final product
That's putting it mildly. It was complete garbage.
You're wrong.
Wow troony colors just like my RGB gaming/gooning station
Utini!
>His cinematography
He isn't the cinematographer.
>drug fuelled neo-medieval space empire
>everything is monochrome military tacticool shit
In essence that's the issue. The overall visual design is very bland, flat, devoid character, flair, or weirdness which is inherent in Dune. Not that the book is immensely descriptive of its technology or clothing, but the context informs the visuals. Take cues from people's descriptions, their stations, etc. I think the worst offender is the Baron Harkonnen, a menacing, bloated, intensely dangerous schemer reduced to a grumbling albino. In trying to give the Harkonnen's a distinct visual identity they stripped them of everything that made them interesting. In fact that bizarre visual trait narratively makes no sense.
That's not even getting into how the story, characters, and themes have been gutted in favour of plain, surface level exposition.
yeah it makes no sense other than he’s a hack
To be fair, most of the Baron's character is from his internal monologue about how much he wants to rape little boys and how that plays into his stereotypically evil "consume everything" mindset. Speaking of, I suspect the gladiatorial duel between the Atreides fighting man and Feyd Rautha will be cut in part 2. Just no time for it.
That guy getting captured was in the script for part 1. He had like 3 scenes, 2 to establish him as one of Duncan's guys and then the 3rd was him fighting in Arakeen and being caught. He's presumably still in the movie as a rando standing in a background shot in the barracks or behind Duncan somewhere.
So they wanted to establish Feyd's oppo in the first movie.
I guess in the second it's the same guy but he's just a rando you have no connection to beyond being an Atreides man.
>establishing scenes that he's one of duncan's guys
Why? He literally doesn't even have a name, that's not important. Hollywood is so moronic.
Pretty sure he even had a couple of lines. I would imagine it's just a writer thing, to establish everything structurally in earlier drafts and then edits allow you to see what isn't necessary.
>no time for it
Thats like saying the first movie had no time for the dinner scene. We already split one book into 2 near 3 hour movies, if they cant dedicate 5 minutes or less to that scene itd be another grave marker on them
Shit like this is why sci-fi dune is the best, tbh
It's five and a half hours long. The dinner scene is in it. Jessica's psychedelic spice trip is in it. It looks like ass but at least they didn't wipe ass with half the script and flush it goddamn
It kind of fits the setting. Gonna hold my judgement until we see the sietch, the emperors pyramid and how shaddam looks.
The emperors pyramid is in the trailers.
like regular goddamn Christopher Walken wearing brown, that's how he'll look
Deserts can be stark but beautiful. Sweeping blue skies, golden sands, vast silent emptiness that makes you feel small. It doesn't have to be a vague blob of beige. Arrakis can look both striking and deadly.
you can't see the sky on arrakis
But that's not true?
It looks like a Shadows of the Empire level
REMINDER
2000s Dune > Lynch Dune > my ass > DUNC
Lynch's Dune is too weird, Villeneuve's Dunc has no weirdness. The former is still preferable.
Dune needs to be weird man, it's at once an all-too-familiar but wholly alien setting
You would expect a feudalistic society tens of thousands of years in the future to look very different to today. Lynch’s vision embraced that.
Meanwhile Villenoob’s costume design is barely different to modern day clothes and tac gear, right down to the stillsuits using off-the-shelf motorcycle gloves with Kevlar knuckles. What a pathetic failure of vision.
Some of them look good.
You can turn off the sound and still be absorbed in the mystery in Prisoners. Deakins took over almost completely to an embarrassing degree. It was DV's first studio film.
Does Villeneuve do this tilt shift effect on purpose?
Not seeing tilt shift there, post hi res
I think he's referring to the tilted perspective of the human settlement below the alien ship. About how it's tilted and not framed in a straight line perspective, given that the background visuals are framed straight. Idk that's the only example of tilt I can get from that pic.
goddamnit i didnt know this moron made arrival (i love arrival but havent seen dunc). do i watch dunc?
Arrival is better. And so is BR2049. And Sicario. And Prisoners. And Incendies.
Dunc is decent, but in no way even close to his best work
yes dunc is by far his best work
>tilt shift
nothing in this picture or in arrival was tilt shifted
you fricking moron
David Lynch should have done a Dune miniseries.
TOTAL VILLEBlack person DEATH
Other thread died.
>The story is moronic and not very well thought out.
Maybe in the movie, because things are cut out. But since this reply chain started with your criticism of the book, you are simply wrong/too moronic to comprehend the book/you didn't actually read it.
>Why couldn't he stop it?
Because he glimpsed the future, the Golden Path, Arafel - the Battle at the End of the Universe, and how much suffering he would have to be responsible for in order to avert the catastrophe. Between book 1 and 2 he becomes responsible for 60 billion deaths already and it becomes too much for him. Also, the oracular paradox - anything he does to try and change the future as he sees it, simply results in a slightly different future. These are the rules setup by Frank Herbert for seeing the future with the Spice Melange, and he sticks to them in future books.
>Why are there so many fremen on a death world with no water vs the entire galaxy.
Liet Kynes explains it before his planet kills him. He, as a planetologist like his father before him, studied Arrakis with a lifetime of firsthand experience living in the desert, and learned how the Sandworms were integral to the planet's ecosystem and geological makeup. They are the bottom and the top of the food chain, literally encompassing everything else. They produce water, and spice, and provide life in the harshest of environments. This is obviously not explained in the movie.
You did not read the book.
>And they do the entire jihad with knives? Jesus. Give me a good ol exterminatus over this crap any day.
Based 40ktard unable to think unless space book tells him to.
>movies need to be flashy and colourful like muh ebic superhero comic book flicks
Too bad Villeneuve can't do minimalism right.
Whatever it is, it's kino
I'm amused by the threads that are more pretentious than the filmmakers they criticize.
I suppose he went with a brutalist minimal aesthetic he followed through what he wanted for the vision which is consistent across the movie, but I really wanted the more "out there" ideas and vibrancy of Dune I pictured when I was reading it.
He didn't achieve brutalist minimalism though. This is uninspired ctrl-V blender slop.
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO PAINSTAKINGLY MODEL ALL OF THE THOUSANDS OF SHIPS YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO
the lighting hitting them all in a consistent and realistic way is all that matters.
who are you quoting
some dipshit, you probably don't know him.
>im stupid and have no real argument
ok
who are you quoting?
somebody who said they speak for you
>implying implications
How could they?
yeah this screams cheap and fast blender slop. is this an actual still from the movie? I don't remember it being that bad, LOL
>LOL
seething.
it means laughing out loud sperg
Another thing people don't talk about DUNC: Every god damn shot is so quick, they knew it looked like shit so they overwhelm you with new images every 3 seconds of movie. Most of the scenes feel like they are played a 1.5, the actors barely breath in between speaking I swear to fricking god they cut time in between lines so the scenes could end faster.
This is getting old and everyone here knows you are getting paid for it.
>CGI from the 90s looks worse than CGI from the 2020
Wow no shit. Dunc still looks bad compared to movies made in 2010.
Sorry ma'am you've been made. No free Nitro for you this month and no gift card. Back to /adv/ for remedial training.
>it is spelled out that arrakis and fremen culture are not only inspired by arabic culture, they are quite literally descended from it with for example many words and phrases being lifted from arabic
>all the buildings are grey squares, nothing interesting at all even in the capital city of arrakeen
>the sietch will probably be just as badly portrayed, even though it's where entire fremen tribes live 24/7
>Tens of thousands of years of breeding within a closed gene pool with virtually no outside DNA brought in
>Fremen are a mix of Spanish, blacks, whites, Arabs etc
Why is modern Hollywood so terrified by the prospect of portraying homogeneous societies? Multiracial Fremen make absolutely no sense culturally or biologically. Genetic homogenisation is an extremely well documented phenomenon.
>I heckin’ love science!
>NOOOO NOT THAT SCIENCE NOOO THATS RACIST
>Why is modern Hollywood so terrified by the prospect of portraying homogeneous societies?
You know full well why that is. Announce a Fiddler On The Roof remake with le diverse casting and hear them howl.
You know, I didn't even pick up on that. Why the frick was kynes a Black person, and a woman? Dante must Die mode: do not say israelites.
Because Chani is Kynes’ daughter and someone wanted that hideous lazy-eyed blob of putty, Zendaya, in the movie.
Halle Bailey got parachuted in to Little Mermaid because she is one of Beyoncé’s protégés and it was part of Beyoncé’s Lion King contract that she could force Bailey into a future remake lead role.
I suspect Zendaya may have a similar thing going on- someone owes someone else a favour. Make her Chani and producer X will add an extra $10 million to the movie kind of thing. That’s small change if the role makes her into a star who pulls down ten or twenty million a movie and makes ten movies over eight years, for instance.
That’s just how Hollywood works. A near-impenetrable barrier of privilege, favours, nepotism and influence, keeping the money at the core of the industry while outsourcing losses to chump shareholders. No wonder Hollywood is obsessed with virtue-signalling diversity; it’s purely a distraction technique to hide that fact that a tiny handful of culturally homogeneous people control almost every aspect of the industry so that the money doesn’t leak out.
It's bad CGI.
nothing new.
remember?
this actually looks like a ps1 game
i tend to prefer lol cinematics, actually
so fake it almost looks like a matte painting
It is a matte painting. Only the floor and the closest pillars are possibly CGI (3D models) in that shot, though I would not be surprised if they were actually miniatures.
those tubular pillars look like Zordon's face is supposed to light up over them
>RANGERS
soul
tb h my problem is that it isn't minimal and brutalist enough
there are too many useless lines and panelling
Real britalism looks cool. It's an opportunity to play with textures, light and shadows, organic and uncanny shapes. Dunc does not do any of this.
you havent seen dune
also the reason why so many of the interior shots have low light is because its much cooler to be in a dark environment.
most of the natural indoor lighting is indirect
>The movie must be boring because, because le realism
Villeneuve could fart in your mouth and you'd pay him $20.
>instantly starts talking about male anus and shit
wow so its true, dunc haters are all gays
and they lack any levity, compounding the problem
I have a theory that the idiots who like Dunc are the same cretins who think Prometheus is good. Prove me wrong!
Ridley Scott can actually imbue his photography with a sense of movement and tension. Prometheus is far from a great movie but it's visually much more accomplished than DUNC.
that has always been one of scott's strengths
I hated The Last Duel but Scott's photography is undeniable. Meanwhile every frame of Dunc looks like a screensaver.
who the frick asked for dumb movies like this. if i wanted to see gays in outer space id watch star wars
>if i wanted to see gays in outer space
we already put a mirror in space though
i asked for it cause the books are great and i wanted star wars for adults
Dune is a fine movie but it's a lousy adaptation. There's none of the beautiful blues purples oranges yellows of the desert. There's no psychedelic edge to anything even through dropping drugs is a core component of the book. There's no really great pageantry or regalness to the outfits or locations. No ancient ruins of works of art that take generations that I imagined while reading the book. Big shame.
Watch Lynch's kino
Lynch's is good insofar it looks like an old weird-fiction cover come to life, which is fitting, but I dislike Lynch being his quirky weird self. Just like everything else he makes the tone is a mess the production fricks up somewhere.
It's also trash.
‘The Making of Dune’ by Ed Naha is absolute gold, they arrived at the Mexican studios and asked ‘what are we going to build the sets out of?’ the answer came back ‘well we have a lot of wood and some great carpenters’. Almost everything was made of wood.
Also, the forced-perspective physical models were great, especially compared to soulless CGI. I miss practical effects so much bros.
that city skyline in the background always kills the immersion for me, it's literally just a shot of chicago or new york lol
weird, no blues purples oranges yellows of the desert,
Imagine having to dust those floors for eterinity
That's nothing compared with his shit taste in women. I want Lynch pussy quality back
has Lynch ever casted an actress that wasn't absolute top shelf material?
No, his taste is immaculate.
Laura Dern, Patricia Arquette, Lara Flynn Boyle
>brian and the star wars fanfiction writer made an entire prequel book about this literal non character instead of writing a book about jessica
what the frick were they thinking
>what the frick were they thinking
teens >>>>> milfs
It works for some movies but in case of Dune it's fricking disgusting.
Those people are filthy rich space nobles and they dress in grey rags and live in zen gardens.
>low poly 90s videogame
not even that
this is what kino looked like in the 90s, the art direction of a pre rendered painted background mogs a $200m hollywood production
holy shit the haligtree from elden ring
That looks like shit dude.
denis you are low iq and ugly and deakins has carried you your entire hack career
I'm thirty seven!
bear in mind that
a) this was made 27 years ago
b) this is only a single image which lasts for a few seconds on screen as the player arrives in the new area of the game
c) there is a multitude of details and colours in this one image whereas the OPs Dune pic is just a mindless wishwash of brown and white. If you told me if was from Star Wars I'd believe it, that's how indistinct the aesthetic is.
>there is a multitude of details and colours in this one image
There's green and blue (dune doesn't have the luxury of portraying oceans yet), and a bunch of dead browns in between. Of all the FF shit you could have pulled up, that was a poor example.
Do people here not understand what a director actually does? Especially in a big comittee studio movie like this.
Movies are now made with the explicit purpose of making Brazilian, Chinese and Indian peasants soiface.
I completely agree that every screenshot someone posts of DUNC looks like shit but when I saw it on the big screen it was kino.
>mise en scene
i dont think i like you op.
what is the most chris foss movie?
jodorowsky's dune
Villenueve has a manchild mind and that is reflected in the aesthetic of his movies. Blade Runner 2049 was a dull looking movie that didn't tell anything about its setting, just superficial and disjointed neon saturated "cool" scenes, but they didn't evoke a coherent believable setting at all
>watch DUNC
>spend the whole time wishing I was watching Lynch Dune instead
It took me three tries before I could make it through DUNC and stay awake. Meanwhile I could watch the Spicediver edit every day and never get tired of it.
>mise en scene
JEALOUS FILM MAJOR ALERT
Dune 2000 cutscenes looked better.
what gets me is that villeneuve rips off so many things from jodoworsky's dune, especially giegers designs for the harkonnens, but he takes everything interesting out of it
Geidi Prime actually looks cool.
in lynch’s movie yeah
Why does the CGI in all of his films look less real than actual scaled down miniatures?
the vast majority of scenes in all of his films are on actual sets along with miniatures and even real size props, he just likes to blend them in the final product along with the CG
Villeneuve doesn't shoot in a green screen studio unless he absolutely has to
>when real life is more visually interesting than a movie
why simp for good Earth shots for a movie about an alien planet?
which part of the Earth did you not see on screen yet
Le Bad live in a mausoleum
I don't agree with the generalization but dune was visually boring. Looks like an aeu de cologne/perfume commercial.
And no its not a desert thing, just re watched Lawrence of Arabia and the colors mog the shit out of dune.
most perfume commercials i’ve seen have more vibe and soul than dunc
Take me back.
wtf is this ai
Look I agree that there is something wrong with Lady Jessica in DUNC, but every version has fricked up Lady Jessica. Lynch had the right spirit and the right actress but shaving their heads and shifting to voice-over were objectively bad moves. And the one in the sci-fi channel was too much of a protagonist mommy.
Jessica's impossible to write for because she switches from protagonist mommy to secondary character. And everything in DUNC only got sixteen seconds of exposition so oops
blade runner 2 is one of the best looking movies of the 21st century
>George Lucas even took the Chani dying in childbirth, delivering the magic non-identical twins from Dune Messiah
What a hack
he took everything
>"To kill with the point lacked artistry."
Dune
>Gurney says there's no artistry in killing with the tip, that it should be done with the edge
Sabres of paradise
>Thus, in writing of Shamyl, we must place him first in his time − the first half of the nineteenth century, and then in his place − the mountains – […]
Dune
>To begin your study of the life of Muad'Dib, then, take care that you first place him in his time: born in the 57th year of the Padishah Emperor, Shaddam IV. And take the most special care that you locate Muad'Dib in his place: the planet Arrakis
Sabres of Paradise
>Shamyl, the embodiment of his land, was at once warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, foxy and innocent, chivalrous and ruthless.
Dune
>He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man. There is no measuring Muad'Dib's motives by ordinary standards.
Sabres of Paradise
>O mountains of Gounib, O soldiers of Shamyl,
>Shamyl’s citadel was full of warriors,
>Yet it has fallen, fallen forever …
Dune
>O Seas of Caladan,
>O people of Duke Leto--
>Citadel of Leto fallen,
>Fallen forever. . .
>-from "Songs of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan
The fool favors monochrome.
Concept art for the wrecked city in 2077 had statues which were high-saturation contrasts to the orange environment like electric blue or neon pink.
In the movie the statues are the same color as the dirt. He was gifted dramatic, high-contrast compositions and turned them into bland, flat imagery.
>electric blue or neon pink.
generic
pic related was unique and striking, like a real life "bloody" sandstorm if you ever experienced one
>hide everything in mist
he's moronic.
In a making of they show the cities sculptors crafted digitally. They are super detailed. All that detail's wiped to 0 because he's like
>FOG
>MOAR FOG!
jews must like how his colon feels since he keeps getting work.
>hide everything in mist
almost like the scene is showing a dead lifeless abandoned dust filled irradiated wasteland of a city huh
New York looked the same not long ago
>New York looked the same not long ago
non sequitur
I was referencing the same scene. I mean the whole movie while they fly around in cars over the city you can't see shit because everything's covered in gray fog.
The matte of the city is really detailed and would have looked beautiful but nobody who saw the movie saw it because the smoothbrain director thought making volumetric fog too opaque to even see the silhouette of a skyline was an improvement.
again, almost as if it's showing a dead lifeless abandoned dust filled irradiated wasteland of a city. so much so that the only people left are indoor in damn hallways not in the streets
did you even watch the movie? a single damn tree is seen as a miracle
>almost as if
do you think this behind the scenes shot makes 2077 seem impressive?
Blade Runner had so many great shots and scenes folks have went back to rewatch it again and again and it has inspired so many other works
>Ghost in the Shell
>Stalkers or whatever Hideo Kojima's first game was called
>Cyberpunk the pnp rpg
...
2077's biggest claim to fame is misusing Blade Runner's name.
Do it under a different IP. People bought Blade Runner tickets to see Blade Runner, not Cheetoland.
it's a sequel, not a remake
some of you just want a marvel tier slop franchise of the same exact thing over and over again don't you. as if Deakins isn't capable of putting blinds of windows in smoke filled interiors
The 20 minute block of orange was the least visually interesting part of the movie, and the sex city was ripped off from AI
high definition is literally what killed film-making as a medium.
the higher the pixel count, the harder and more expensive it is to make anything look good. save that shit for aero-space tech, and leave some details to the imagination.
>inb4 the 10,000 QLED gays come charging at me to tell me how their overpriced technocrap is better than any other piece of overpriced technocrap
you're a humongous moron
do you think older films are low resolution just because you watch them from a YIFY encode or? go watch Lawrence of Arabia in 70mm you moron
Only Villeneuve can make an alien planet look so boring.
GOOD THING THERS NO SANDWORMS HEREABOUTS
This is some super sentai shit, my god the armor looks worse than I remember.
I take it back, there's super sentai with better plastic armor design than this.
its a desert filled with sand and rocks
what the frick do you want
have you even spent any time in the desert? thats what it looks like
there are white sand deserts.
also this scene is LITERALLY a dream
Villeneuve takes interesting soulful worlds like blade runner and Dune and turns them into bland, lifeless washed out slop and midwits praise it.
Is it just the CGI or is there something else to DUNC not feeling like a massive desert the way Lawrence of a Rabia does
He puts like 10 Instagram tier filters on ever shot which forces the foreground and background into a slimmer plane.
Is DUNC supposed to take place in the future or something? Cant take sword fighting seriously when there are starships and interstellar travel.
Why not?
Looks moronic
and another movie with gun fights is le good?
It's an army. Do you want them wearing bright trans flag colors instead?
>low poly 90s videogame
very kino aesthetic
Watch Incendies, watch Sicario, watch Arrival and shut the frick up.
don't watch the movie, that'll show them
filtered
Interior design's austerity was excessive and too theater-ish, not regal or opulent. Brutalist exterior required more contrast (that ought've at least been done on Giedi Prime a lot more). Paul's room and training hall weren't enough. Then there's the Vivarium on Arrakis.
Yeah there is no contrast. A city that is forced to be austere on the surface is going to be a lot more colorful and interesting inside or else the inhabitants would go insane. Villeneuve is really good at creating places that feel empty and barren, as if no human has ever set foot in it.
director is a different position then cinematographer. greg frasier shot dune, he is well regarded. roger deakins has done many of villeneuves films and most would agree he is one of the best of all time. villaneueve himself speaks about the skill of deakins and how important his influence is to films like sicario and prisoners.
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