VogtRoberts Gundam

here's his take on the franchise https://twitter.com/VogtRoberts/status/1403860442682847235

Hopeful? or it's going to be shit?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the guy making the next live action Gundam movie at Legendary

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well he really likes it so that's pretty neet. Of course producers and marketing hacks will probably mould it into generic movie type 3 or whatever

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off netflix shill.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The movie is not made at Netflix, just published.
      The movie company handling is Legendary

      • 2 years ago
        SUN WUKONG @ msv.wtf.dev

        anon that doesn't offer much solace when you look at how they handled Pacrim 2.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The movie is not made at Netflix, just published.
        >The movie company handling is Legendary

        Stop with this cope autism already. You don't even know how movies are made. Netflix is the sole worldwide distributor (outside of some Asian countries). Netflix signed on before a script was even written. When you get a distributor THAT early committed, it means they are paying for part of the budget of the movie.

        And that usually comes with certain conditions (like you agree to feature their product, you agree to cast certain actors, etc). Legendary isn't paying for the ENTIRE movie budget by themselves. Movies are made with several investors. Each with their own interests. If you are writing a script and get the Christian Cable Channel to distribute your movie, obviously they are going to use their influence to make sure you don't write a non-Christian movie.

        So yes, Netflix is going to influence the film.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          All good points. But unnecessary. Netflix already gave interviews where they talk about the budget of the movie.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Except the Japanese side (Yahoo News Japan) has stated that it is for distribution only and they don't have a hand in the pot. I think the producer dude that met him even said that it was a solely sunrise legendary project with no other external influence

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hopeful? or it's going to be shit?
    Whenever the head of a project like this makes a statement talking about how huge of a fan they are of thing it usually means they've never touched that thing before getting hired and are full of shit. I have no doubt that this is going to be a trainwreck that shits on everything the original stood for.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      well, he said that Turn A was good. he might be mildly trustworthy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >you will soon have no excuse to dive into the beginning of this infinitely iconic and influential world.
      Gave me a chuckle.

      I've little to no interest in a live adaptation though, Amuro and Char's voices are too ivonic at this point, I'd probably struggle even with a decent adaptation and I've seen too many people claim to be fans of something before releasing a butchered product. I imagine it's often studio meddling, but the end result is the same.

      >Whenever the head of a project like this makes a statement talking about how huge of a fan they are of thing it usually means they've never touched that thing before getting hired and are full of shit.
      Despite the team working on Castlevania saying they were big fans yet somehow still released the pile of shit that was the show, I can never again trust anyone that says this kind of stuff

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And a Konami staff said that for the first season of Castlevania they had to directly be involved because they wanted the series to have an even more "western look".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      anon you sure you aint talking about Michael Dougherty?, Jordan did fill Kong Skull Island with a bunch of refrences to stuff he liked including gundam on the helicopter pilots helmets , the person you describe fits mike more because he kept bragging about being a Godzilla fan yet KOTM was unwatchable dogshit that was insult to every Toho kaiju featured in the film.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >you will soon have no excuse to dive into the beginning of this infinitely iconic and influential world.
    Gave me a chuckle.

    I've little to no interest in a live adaptation though, Amuro and Char's voices are too ivonic at this point, I'd probably struggle even with a decent adaptation and I've seen too many people claim to be fans of something before releasing a butchered product. I imagine it's often studio meddling, but the end result is the same.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I really hope it's an AU

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well, he has good takes but that just means he's a loregay, it doesn't reflect his ability to direct and he isn't even doing the script. So what he says before we know what the movies is doesn't really matter.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he's a loregay
      Anyone can read a wiki/summary.

      Jordan in general has being quiet as frick. same for the Metal Gear movie.
      Either he is hard working on both in the background, or he is playing dead as he is thirsting on women online and IRL like a creep (no many people knows he does this though).

      And for the Metal Gear movie we know it's not Konami, because the guy making the new Silent Hill movie has being giving plenty of informations to the press and fans, without any issues.

      Last news on MGS was that they didn't even had a script.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Last news on MGS was that they didn't even had a script.
        Source?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I believe it was what Oscar Isaac said.
          The main issue with the MG movie, is that it's made in the US, it's owned by Sony too. and every single Hollywood movies using military stuff must be approved by the DOD. With the theme of Metal Gear, it creates an issue.

          The Silent Hill movie is moving quickly because it's made in France and is directly made with Konami who is giving a lot of freedom to the guy (enough for him to even reference PT in his script), giving actual SH veterans to help on the movie. Konami more or less has nothing to do with the MG movie due to Sony owning it, like the Monster Hunter movie with Capcom.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >and every single Hollywood movies using military stuff must be approved by the DOD.
            So you're telling me that the Gundam movie can only be a propaganda flick?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It depends if it use real life equipment or not.
              I believe they have to contact the DOD if they are using real life weapons, gears or places like military bases.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >no low budget metal gear movie with snake doing espionage and getting information in single room sets with lots of dialogue and good acting
                >instead we'll get shitty expensive CG, green screen sets and trendy actors that can't deliver convincing lines, also box memes lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kojima should have given the Metal Gear right to a foreign studio. He was vice president of Konami when he gave the right to Sony. and the movie never managed to really moved since.
                They also canceled a pitch by David Hayter as the director, which he would have made in canada, which was described as "Metal gear x Apocalypse now"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kojima is a moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Okay tell me more about the Hayter script. Since really MGS5 should have been a more descent into darkness with no cope out that you're not even Big Boss. I want to become a monster who would hijack nuclear missiles to hold the world hostage!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We don't know else. Someone told me that Hayter would only talk more about his pitch if the Jordan project release or get canceled.
                As for why we never got "big boss as a demon", I think it's because Kojima himself started to put too much of himself in Big Boss, even starting to say he is a "better character than Solid Snake because he is a real human with real emotions", which make Solid Snake MGS4 character arc completely dumb if he did not have "real emotions".

                Whoever will continue MG one day, I kinda wonder if they will have the freedom Kojima had with all his retcons, if they will instead try to change the less elements possible, or go full reboot to have the much freedom possible.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                t. secondaries who didn't pay attention to MGS3 or Peace Walker

                We already saw Big Boss' descent into villainy and MGSV was an extension of it. 3 already gave us enough to see why he'd be so pissed at how soldiers were treated and that's all Kojima planned to do.
                Peace Walker just showed us what Big Boss would do, he'd create his own PMC that doesn't discard soldier even if it meant going against the world, perpetuating war and using nukes as leverage to do what he wanted since that was the purpose of using ZEKE. The only reason most players wouldn't question it is because it's framed as Big Boss fighting against objectively more terrible people in Hot Coldman and Zardonov so he looks like the "good guy" at the end of the day. Big Boss had no issues straight up telling Chico "You're going to die for me and you have to be okay with that"
                MGSV and GZ showed how Big Boss didn't give a frick anymore and was willing to completely ruin everyone's lives if it meant continuing his dream of creating Outer Heaven. He discarded Miller, he discarded Zero, he discarded his men and he discarded the soldier that would become Venom so he can continue serving him. Literally the only guy who was on his side at the end of it all was Ocelot and even then it's because the guy already had an almost homoerotic obsession with Boss
                We see Big Boss become an evil dickhead but in very subtle ways so you're still rooting for him. It's kind of like how the average viewer might root for Tony Soprano despite him being an evil bastard too.
                It's honestly really gay that the only thing people wanted out of BiBo being evil is killing child soldiers or whatever, just some blatant evil shit that doesn't even make sense with his character. It's like Anakin in the Prequel Trilogy levels of moronic writing.

                tl;dr Big Boss was already an butthole by the time MGSV happens, you just didn't pay attention

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The only reason most players wouldn't question it is because it's framed as Big Boss fighting against objectively more terrible people in Hot Coldman and Zardonov so he looks like the "good guy" at the end of the day.
                I like this aspect of how he's handled a lot because that's also basically how Big Boss justifies himself to himself. There's always someone that Big Boss can point to who's objectively worse than he is and who he's opposed to, so he's never the bad guy in the room. Until Metal Gear, where there finally isn't anyone else.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yea Kojima really was wanking it to Big Boss super hard to the point I think he forgot that Big Boss was supposed to be a villain. But with all the retcons turning the story into a pretzel to be BIG BOSS DUN DO NUFFIN WRONG!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >actors that can't deliver convincing lines
                Anon, this is Metal Gear we're talking about.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good luck to him I guess. I really think that gundam is really hard to adapt to live action. How do you depict the size of the mobile suits? How do you create good action sequence that retains the feel of the anime? In the anime, gundam kinda feel like a super hero with really nimble movement. If you try to adapt it with this approach to live action it kinda loses its machine properties and it will look more like people in suit. If you try to maintain its machine properties, it's kinda hard to create good action sequence that doesn't come as "stiff". You can see this problem in most of 3D gundam animation and game. Maybe they can try 08th MS team approach where they fight in the city to depict the size of the mobile suits and lean to slower action sequence. I think it's easier to adapt macross to live action since they can use plane dogfight as a crutch to create a really good action sequence.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They can also do some mix of Igloo 2 as well to portray the mobile suits as juggernauts especially at the start.
        Have the opening sequence be on a war front with a group of soldiers fighting off even just 3 or 4 zakus before the Gundam shows up at the end and cuts them down one by one.
        Then bam, a youngster comes out of the wienerpit and the drama starts

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is the movie still being made?
    Why is there no word on it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Jordan in general has being quiet as frick. same for the Metal Gear movie.
      Either he is hard working on both in the background, or he is playing dead as he is thirsting on women online and IRL like a creep (no many people knows he does this though).

      And for the Metal Gear movie we know it's not Konami, because the guy making the new Silent Hill movie has being giving plenty of informations to the press and fans, without any issues.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Going to continue not participating in any piece of Gundam media made after 2001 other than video games.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Not cutting off at 1988
      Filthy casual

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Not participating in the pinnacle piece of Gundam media which is G-Saviour

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking of Wiki, don't look up the personal life section of the director's Wikipedia page

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's no secret, he's pretty insecure about it too.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you guys talking about a movie that isn't going to be made? At least wait a few years and discuss what could've been like the Superman Lives people.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bite thread
    >link to twitter.com
    we need another colony drop

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Slow week that we're going back to ancient time loops like this? Shouldn't you be b***hing about TWFM at this point?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So is this version of the Gundam going to debut as an incomplete unit? Or will it sustain battle damage to look like picrel?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He makes some minor good points here, double zeta is great and Turn A is infinitely better when you have a bunch of Gundams under your belt. He seems like a genuine fan, but I think he might frick it up sadly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Will never understand why people like the ZZ depiction of Haman and I quite like ZZ overall.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree with the Turn A take. Only Tomino's previous Gundam works contribute heavily to Turn A due to it being an answer to the themes he previously presented, and any other series beyond that is mostly just fluff. The non-Tomino pre-Turn A all get like a 5 seconds cameo you can point to, and there's literally no reason anything released after Turn A can contribute to the experience.
      Just that take is enough to make me feel like he's just coasting off old message board discussions, or doesn't really think critically about Gundam aside from "wow cool robot".

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The original trilogy is probably "a lot of gundam" to him, secondaries can't handle 30+ episode shows let alone multiple seasons.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I can tell you were Filtered by ZZ, gtfo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      nah ZZ is good the first half
      leave /m/

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >t-the second half is good!
      No, you were filtered.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Until Gunpla is shown for it, it's shelved. Bandai wants Gunpla to make, P-Bandai or otherwise.

    Basically just ignore anything talking about it until it actually shows something, much like how IBO G is basically a glorified MSV until the game is released if it ever will

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How successful will his triggering of Jeremy from cinemasins be and will it be bigger than Kong skull island?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't give a shit about either, autist.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off Jordan. We know you browse /m/. We don't care about your movie. Stop shilling it here.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It'll only get 20 episodes split into 2 10-episode seasons before Netflix cans it, so why bother?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's a movie moron.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Advocates for watching things outside of production order
    >like a side story made 8 years later would enhance your viewing of CCA
    >Excited about THE ORIGIN
    I feel like he just searched twitter for an opinion to put his name to

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd be somewhat interested if they went with a totally original AU with its own story, but if they're just trying to adapt 0079, I'm staying far away. Western live action straight adaptations of anime are ALWAYS shit.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being a chronologicalgay and thinking Origin is canon are red flags. He can't even seem to make a distinction between Tomino entries and the others.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Did the director even fly to Japan to ask for Tomino's blessing?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, no one actually does this.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >No, no one actually does this.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I really don’t understand Tomino’s feelings on Gundam sometimes. Yeah he really put some passion into 0079 and Zeta, but you can tell right towards the end of Zeta that he’s starting to get tired of Gundam. Get to Victory and he’s basically trying to actively kill Gundam. If he’s so fed up with Gundam stuff then why would he ever have problems with other people continuing it?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Because it's his narrative baby. If one makes a creative work, even at the behest of a toy company, there are certain ideas they may implement in it that have value to them and a vision they have of what that work "is". If someone else comes along later to "continue" that work whilst also not understanding that vision or those ideas, then original creators become upset and complain.

            This is how you get stuff like Mark Hamill trying to quietly warn people about Nu-Star Wars, even as an actor he's got a certain vision of what and who his character is supposed to be and he's upset that the people "continuing" that work don't grasp it. I don't know the details, but I imagine it'd also have been a little difficult for him to say "no" to doing the acting work, to boot.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ok I get what you’re saying, but Tomino was already super fed up with Gundam by the time SEED rolled around. The man already barely cared about the other AU Gundam shows that were made so why the frick would he care about a new one? I feel like he just wants to constantly be the grumpy man where he’s in a constant state of “I hate Gundam and I hate anything that’s made for it unless I make it. Which I’ll also hate.”
              At least Anno when he says he hates making more Evangelion he says he’d be cool with other people besides himself making Eva shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Anno when he says he hates making more Evangelion
                Never happened.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Fukada did.

        Didn't Tomino said he would hate a new western movie?

        I can imagine him saying that, but do you have a source?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          in this video I believe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAYa0eVJog8

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I like how he just says no immediately and didn't even expand on it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't Tomino said he would hate a new western movie?

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Also, can’t forget about THE ORIGIN.
    shit taste

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People always say this sort of shit for PR. You'll never know until you actually sit down and watch the thing.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Come on, Jordan. We know you're here.
    Don't be a pussy and go talk to Tomino.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Inb4 the 1983 script somehow ends up being actually better.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What's this?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No one tell him.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Someone tell him.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Someone tell him.

          Now I know and almost wish I hadn't.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    probably shit might have one or two nice scenes and not be a complete disaster but im not holding my breath

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No Char and no Amuro in the movie pls.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where the vulcans?

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I give him credit for appreciating ZZ but
    >Stardust Memory, The 08TH MS TEAM, and War in the Pocket before watching Char’s Counter attack
    What the frick? All of those have barely anything to do with Char's Counterattack.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What’s funny is Char’s Counter Attack honestly has barely anything to do with even Zeta and ZZ. Haman gets mentioned once and that’s about it for connections to those two shows. Seems like Char completely forgot Kamille existed.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He likes ZZ, prefers Zeta TV to Zeta movies. I don't really see how anyone can have problems with what he said here.

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