So, the upshot of all this is going to be that he's wrong about Canon Events, of course. Miles will save his dad, Gwen's dad won't be a cop anymore, this is known.
But, and I don't expect a major movie studio to be this autistic about it, there are lots of Spider-Men that didn't end up with a cop dying on their watch.
Just off the top of my head, Takuya didn't have to watch a cop die, ninja-Peter from Mangaverse never interacted with cops in the first place, and the only person who died at all in the 90's cartoon was Uncle Ben, because S&P was so strict at the time that nobody could die onscreen period; everybody just fell into portals and was "lost forever".
Hell, if you wanna get real technical, there's some Spiders that never even had to lose a relative. House of M, the cape-wearing celebrity from What If #19, and the armored millionaire from the 90's show (again). This motherfricker doesn't even KNOW the Canon, and he's out here trying to force it on people?
(Also, what was Julia doing there? I don't think she's even a Totem.?
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Like pretty much every Spider-media we see barely lasts a few years. It's completely possible there's other deaths that happened for those characters sometime in the future.
I mean, fair enough, but some of them did reach a definite end. Takuya chased of the Iron Cross, 90's Pete probably found MJ on counter-earth, Toby!Pete reconciled with his MJ and, as of No Way Home, seems to be getting along fine and non-traumatized.
Its almost like this entire plot point so far is moronic and any conclusion the sequel makes with it will only make it more or just a little less moronic
It's more like the filmmakers wanted all the other spider-men to look worse so Miles could look better.
Yeah, so the story is moronic
Anon the people writing these movies literally said it was written to spite Miles haters, that's all there is to it. They don't care about Spider-Man, or the mythos, or the various versions, or a good story, or anything really, they saw there was now a black Spider-Man that fans don't love, and they made a movie solely to shit on them, and nothing else, it's a movie that exists as a vitriolic reaction to fans expressing concern for a fictional property they like.
>the people writing these movies literally said it was written to spite Miles haters,
Proof?
https://www.tiktok.com/@nerdist/video/7241326171361774890?lang=en
What a bunch of cucks.
Racists hate Miles because he is black
True OGs hate Miles because it’s a Michael Bendis character
I think it'd be really funny if they made Miles white from now on, keep everything else just make him look like a white guy.
The people who were complaining about him would keep complaining, the people who praised him endlessly would suddenly turn on him, it'd be really funny to watch.
Racists would love Miles because he is white
True OGs hate Miles because it’s a Michael Bendis character
But that's so silly it doesn't even make sense, they're probably alienating people who did like the first one and Miles lol.
Well, it's also a staple of multiverse/multipath stories, saying "this one version, out of all of creation, is different".
Hickman said that 616 Reed was the ONLY one that valued his family more than science, when there's at least 4 TV versions, 2 movies, and a few what ifs where that's not the case. Hell, going all the way back to the Council of Kangs, it was established that "our" Kang was the only one who COULDN'T beat the Avengers.
Rick C-137 is " The Rickest", the path the Neo chooses in The Matrix is the one probability that the Architect didn't forsee, and every time they do a big Kamen Rider team up, Ichigo is always the strongest and best Rider, even though he's from a completely different kind if reality than all the Showa and Riewa Riders. The only time that the "main" reality wasn't shown to be the most important one was in the Captain Britain story that gave us the 616 ranking, and even then Brian ended up being super important anyways.
It wouldn't be much of a story where you were told "you ain't shit" and they ended up being right.
>Well, it's also a staple of multiverse/multipath stories, saying "this one version, out of all of creation, is different".
It's a staple of shit writing, MCU had no issues making their golden boy lead snap so Tobey Peter can remind him of what's important, instead of doing the opposite
You're not seeing the forest for the trees. The whole main thrust of that movie was how MCU Peter is the best of the movie versions because he wants to apply SCIENCE to save all the villains from dying, which is more than Tobey or Andrew could do, for various reasons. And the movie ends with him doing what we're supposed to think is a noble act in allowing himself to be forgotten by his friends and be "demoted" to a penniless, unemployed loser where the guys from the first to series started there and were never quite able to dig themselves out.
>because he wants to apply SCIENCE to save all the villains from dying, which is more than Tobey or Andrew could do, for various reasons
Nah the movie acknowledges all three did the same, and are now taking advantage of a unique situation only enabled by literal magic and the high tech level of the MCU universe. Not like MCU Peter tried to use SCIENCE to save his previous villains every time before, there was no ongoing conflict in NWH like in every previous Spider-Man movie, the villains were trapped and cooperative which is a first for all of them.
They just said that to rile tards like you up, and it worked. You're not immune to propaganda.
Cool thread. I want to frick this hologram.
Her comic version is hotter.
All the different pieces of information on the canon events don't really fit together. The only way Miguel's happy universe would blow up is if he kept being Spider-Man and altered a canon event of that universe's still living Spider-Man and that seems like a pretty big frick up to omit from his back story. A Spider-Man can, actually live indefinitely in the universe of another dead Spider-Man, assuming they solve the glitching problem, because that's exactly what Peter B. does in Spider-verse 1. Anomalies are dimension hopping villains who "don't belong" according to Miguel but the spot is the explicit cause of the canon event Miles interrupts in the Pajeetverse and since Miguel gives Miles an exact date for when his dad is gonna die, presumably they can see into the futures of the different universes. What justification do they have for sending villains home if those foreign villains can be interwoven into their host universe's canon? What if they send one home and since they're not around to cause a canon event, the universe explodes? But I guess that's fine because Cpt. Stacy not being a cop anymore is enough to change his fate? What's the difference to canon between pushing someone out of the way of falling debris and making sure they aren't in the killzone to begin with? If that's fine, why stop Miles from going home? Just don't have any Spider-Men be there to intervene in Miles' suffering quota and he'll either convince his dad to retire or not be able to save him given some impossible scenario. That's how they work, aren't they?
I really liked Spider-verse 2 but they were clearly making up the canon event rules as they went along.
>like cape movies and film because there is not multiverse bullshit
>they start doing multiverse bullshit
>Gwen's dad won't be a cop anymore
Didn't comic Gwen's Dad die AFTER retiring tho?
Yes, the movie is fricking clueless and all over the place
I mean Gwen only believes he is safe...
Miguel literally has the ASM #90 comic, and he still tells everyone it's about a police captain specifically
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