>Wants to protect Charlie. >Leave her in room crying and emotionally vulnerable

>Wants to protect Charlie
>Leave her in room crying and emotionally vulnerable
>Guy you have been trying to keep away from her goes in
>Don't notice
>Forces her into a deal that will surely have dire consequence for information you could have provided to Charlie for free. Egg boys even reminded her of that information.

Why does Vizz even have her? Feels like checkbox character and it's supposed to be the main couple.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Charlie was probably mad at her for lying for so long and didn't want to see her.
    But yeah, Vaggie has nothing interesting going for her. What makes the couple even less believable is that in order to keep her secret, Vaggie would also need to avoid talking about her past and home. It's said in episode 7 that they shared everything, but the frick would Vaggie have to share with Charlie if she had to keep being secretive about basically everything related to her life? Chaggie was a mistake.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but the frick would Vaggie have to share with Charlie if she had to keep being secretive about basically everything related to her life?
      My option is that Vaggie lied about everything to Charlie, which is worse, as far as Charlie knows their entire relationship could be a lie and Vaggie just wants to use her.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its almost funny how moronic this relationship actually sounds now.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's really easy once you realize she didn't notice her """mother""" is a troony.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t forget she got Dazzle killed, she could have just used her wings to fly up.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      She lost them.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        She lost her wings twice? b***h needs to drink more red bull.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        She got them back

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >her entire delivery when leaving the hotel lobby and addressing the guys is still that dry, annoyed teenager voice.
    This is seriously the most annoying voice direction. Did the person behind it just hate the actress or something? Everyone else has so much more effort put in to try and make them fun or at least ATTEMPT to capture that same magic from the pilot. For her it's the same fricking thing every time.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Genuinely this, cry about the Angel Dust change all you want, but Vaggie is the worst downgrade for someone that was so important to the plot of the show.
      You probably could have gotten her singer VA to do the lines and it'd be better.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    She's mexican so she was probably busy thinking about tacos or landscaping or something.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Charlie is partially Viv's self-insert. And Vaggie is her diversity-virtue girlfriend who will live for her and put up with anything while being the butt of jokes from Viv's favoirte homos.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to like them as a couple, but one is literally "GROOOOOAN: the character" with the mere obligation of "protecting" Charlie when she herself is more than able to handle being on her own while the other is incredibly psychotic and illuded to her own commitment of redeeming sinners without knowing what could the possible adverse effects be of said redemption, even more when Heaven just feels like a glorified circlejerk hug box where everyone is way over their heads, love being an afterthought for them due to the whole hotel fixation which, by the way, feels frivolous as frick when Charlie alone was able to redeem Sir Pentious.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would prefer GROOOOOAN atleast like the pilot, show Vaggie is kind of a non-character.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    She is dull. Give Lute more screentime please.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vaggie can't protect shit.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the pilot it's even more obvious she's a J.K. Rowling-tier lesbian stereotype especially her interactions with Angel dust, she's a self insert for that demographic

  9. 3 months ago
    User

    Everyone has a role to play in the grand scheme of things. We may not be able to comprehend it at present, but it doesn't matter because we don't need to.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lute loses a dyke daughter for a straight Adam-redeemed son
    Fair exchange.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      his egg boiz did not go to heaven, and therefore were pulverized from existence

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Or them and many other redeemed sinners respawned in different places of Heaven.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's so shitty that Chaggie was basically a last-minute decision (compared to how long the ideas for the characters have been around), but now Viv is sticking with it despite most people being indifferent to Chaggie.
    Imagine putting your bubbly protagonist in the most soulless and tacked-on romance ever, and now you have to stand by it or people will complain about you "erasing their representation."

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least Charlie will never be in Heaven.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's why you only devote to a shipping if you entirely are into it. Creators who aren't keen on 1:1 self-inserts of themselves and would rather project themselves to a character they aspire to be are usually the best ones because they still wind up having aspects of them bleeding onto the character, usually the more positive traits.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to mating press Vaggie until she turns straight.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is her name Vaggie?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Adam thought it'd be based
      he truly was /ourguy/

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Becauze it sounds like vegana, yes vivzie has admitted this

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women have the same kind of humor regarding genitals.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Adam named her after veganas

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Charlie even take the deal? Cant she just call her dad, again, and have him solve everything? He basically does so in the finale anyway.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The show wants us to think that Angels being vulnerable is basically only known by like 1% of the characters, regardless of being demon or angels.
      EVERYONE genuinely thinks they're basically unkillable or worse, even unable to be HARMED.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stay mad.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Veggie has always been an irrelevant character who exists solely to be Charlie’s cynical pessimistic straight man friend to her antics, but she’s so outshined by Charlie, Alastor, and Angel she is a completely passive character without motivations other then being Charlie’s friend and reacting to things. Making her Charlie’s girlfriend just made things worse because now she genuinely has no other purpose or reason to exist as a character outside of Charlie

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are we SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY having a debate about how realistic it is for someone to have some moment to themselves?

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why does Vizz even have her?
    so anons can LGD her

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