Warner Bros. Discovery in talks to merge with Paramount Global

>Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav met with Paramount Global CEO Bob Bakish on Tuesday in New York City to discuss a possible merger, Axios has learned from multiple sources.
>Zaslav also has spoken to Shari Redstone, who owns Paramount's parent company, about a deal.
>The duo discussed ways their companies could compliment one another. For example, each company's main streaming service — Paramount+ and Max — could merge to better rival Netflix and Disney+.
>It's unclear whether WBD would buy Paramount Global or its parent company, National Amusements Inc. (NAI), but a source familiar with the situation says that both options are on the table.
>WBD is said to have hired bankers to explore the deal.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When the frick are the monopoly laws gonna kick in already?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good one. Soon Disney will own DC and Marvel.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Correction
        Soon Apple will own Disney, DC and Marvel.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I see you're a Disney shill from the pre-COVID era

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do anons here act like Multimedia isn't one of the most diverse industries?

      Pepsi and Cola rape the competition and no one complains , it's actually rare for an industry to have 6 big companies, most have 3 and a big gap between the rest

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        We’re down to 5 big companies as opposed to 14 in 1980.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because Pepsi and Coke are just sugar drinks that are barely distinguishable from each other so no one cares.

        If all media gets monopolized than it's easier for them to do dumb shit like fill every movie with unentertaining propaganda and you don't really have much choice when your family begs you to go out for a movie and all there is to see is "Black Frozen: Trans Rights are Human Rights" or whatever.

        Competition is good. It gives companies incentive to produce better products. That's why stuff like high school cafeteria food is so garbage because they don't have any competition.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          My school cafeteria had home-cooking quality but the servings were ridiculously small

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >just accepting the propaganda is less lazy than questioning it
            Nah.

            I don't care if the propaganda is pushing a left agenda, a right agenda, or espousing the glory of our Glorious Leader in Best Korea. Media trying to push an agenda on you is bad. How the frick are people so mind-broken they start arguing against "propaganda is bad".

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because they're in on the koolaid and want you neutralised.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't care if the propaganda is pushing a left agenda, a right agenda,
              Yes you fricking do kek

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?t=38
                The point is you shouldn't want ANY type of agenda shoved in your face. Look at pic-related glorifying Hillary Clinton.

                If you did this same scene replacing Hillary with Trump, Biden, etc. it'd still be cringe as frick.

                It's like if you watch a Simpsons episode and Marge turns to some random celebrity and goes "SIX TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION AND QUARTERBACK OF THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS TOM BRADY!" It comes off fricking stupid. I don't give a frick about Tom Brady. I don't give a frick about George Clooney either but at least his contribution to South Park was just him barking as a dog and not bringing any attention to his celebrity.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i don't care about a left agenda or a right agenda
                >blathering about Hilary Clinton like a barnyard animal

                What happened to not caring?

                Has any merger of this level ever benefited one of the companies, let alone both of them?

                Square-Enix

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this moron can't read past two sentences

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Square-Enix

                Well Square Enix is hinting that Classic Star Wars is going to become a world in Kingdom Hearts. So yeah these large acquisitions and mergers do help some companies. The real question is, I wonder if these other companies like Discovery and Universal will seek Japanese gaming developers like Capcom, Konami, Sega, etc to do their own Kingdom Hearts knock off? You know they are tempted to do it.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >entering the world of Disney animation
                >just a bunch of unrelated properties

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Easier
          There's nothing stopping them from doing that right now, Hollywood as a collective is a soft hedgemony and has been for decades. Not that I want all companies to form a single conglomerate, but this move basically doesn't change anyone's policies, it just means Paramount plus shows will be on HBO Max.
          In any case this is just the gasp of a dying industry, WBD wouldn't be desperate to swallow one of their primary competitors if their business was going swimmingly, and Paramount is barely doing better than they are. With any luck they'll all collapse in our lifetime, this announcement just saves their stock price for the next year

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I see what you are saying and agree with a lot of it. These companies get a "too big too fail" mindset and get stubborn in their ways.

            After all who can imagine a world with no Mickey Mouse? No McDonald's? No NFL football? But society changes and it becomes difficult for a boomer generation in charge of such companies that grew up as children watching TV every night (and still doing it decades into old age) to realize most children nowadays might rather watch silly TikTok vids on their phones made by a random nobody than their fancy CGI spectacles with million dollar budgets.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >In any case this is just the gasp of a dying industry
            none of this shit would be happening if it weren't for the streaming wars.

            the main reason warner merged with discovery was to create the new hbo max. the old hbo max was suffering from subscriber churn since the flow of new content was small (it was all premium content that they had to spread out). they realized that netflix had a similar problem but solved it by releasing cheap reality shows in-between their big releases. discovery is all cheap reality-tv so it made for a perfect way to keep hbo max subscribers.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have a shitty school district son, explains your idiocy. Not enough nutrients when your brain was developing. We had decent food as well, just like this anon

          My school cafeteria had home-cooking quality but the servings were ridiculously small

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          So glad I convinced my familty that movies are lame and gay now. It was pretty easy to do since it is true.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off commie

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you joking right now?

            Communism is like the opposite of competition which is part of why it's so garbage. The communist food line gives you a shitty ration of food there's not much you can do. The prison cafeteria gives you a shitty dinner there's not much you can do.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Competition also doesnt lead to better quality. There is the myth that "voting for your dollar" leads to better productsw for consumers but in practice it leads to designed oboslescene (like with light bulbs) price fixing (like with the tectopus) and "reverse arms races" where the companies know they can offer lower quality stuff because there is no alternative.
              And when you do get this "competition" ist stuff like Amazon driving competitors out of business due to getting constant investment funds, then once the business closes pumping up the prices.

              A far better system would be to allow indiepent business to exist but constantly slap their shit in when they get out of line.
              Rigth now we have a status quo were company spreadsheets literally calculate how many people they can let die because the fines for the bodies are cheaper than the money they save by not installing gaurdrails or the like.
              Just look at the rail industry, US trains are miles of death traps waiting to happen.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I do not claim capitalism is perfect. Just talking about it in relation to the alternatives. Trust me there is a lot about current capitalist systems that piss me off.

                >A far better system would be to allow indiepent business to exist but constantly slap their shit in when they get out of line.
                Yeah but then you end up needing to figure out how to make sure the people in charge of such decisions aren't just getting paid off by said companies. I mean look at the US and you'll often see
                >chairman on the board of health regulations = former Pfizer employee
                >chairman on the board regulating corn = former CEO of Corn, Inc.
                etc.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's kind of the issue of the american Political system being so cliquey

                It's a system that pretty much needs to be broken down every 25 years to make sure the bureaucracy doesn't get too small

                Saddest thing is that the same is happening to Europe with all the "third way" Centrist aping american economic policies

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't help that America has one federal branch headed by a single person.
                >Following President Trump's election, there were around 4,000 political appointment positions which the incoming Trump administration needed to review, and fill or confirm, of which 1,212 required Senate confirmation.
                >Following his election victory in 2020, U.S. president Joe Biden had 4,000 political appointments to make to the federal government.
                It's unmanageable. You could have the most kind hearted well-meaning person imaginable. You could have Mr Rogers going in adamant he's going to do his absolute best to have no corruption.

                There's no way he's going to be able to properly vet 4,000 political appointees properly so they won't be corrupt while heading into an already bloated and corrupt system full of scheming establishment politicians.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hyperlocalization is the key. I think the most realistic and helpful version of the USA that is achievable within most people's lifetimes is a de facto federation of countless communes.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I to wish for Karen from the HOA or the county dipshit who can be bought for one company’s pocket change to dictate how things go x uncountable patchwork of communes.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                HOA's arent really communes they are more or less dictatorships run by real estate business disguised as associations. I am talking about straight up divestment, so something more like planned communities.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jimmy Carter is what you get when you elect Rogers

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah but then you end up needing to figure out how to make sure the people in charge of such decisions aren't just getting paid off by said companies. I mean look at the US and you'll often see
                Shit slapping all the way down is the ideal solution to that.

                Though so many systems are so crooked that they resist all attempts to change them. I think a better more realistic solution is divestment.
                For people to take whatever resources they have, band together and fulfill their needs while buying into societal frickshit the last amount as possible.
                This would vary for people based on their capabilities and communities but some examples would be

                >Growing your own food and exchanging it with neighbors whenever possible instead of buying food from grocery and restaurant chains
                >Pirating as much media as possible to avoid financing big media
                >Resolving conflict with community accountability and support rather than calling police (ESPECIALLY effective with Domestic Violence)
                >Starting mutual aide funds for the impoverished and unhoused among you

                Over time with enough support you would have a network of these little sub societies, that would continue to grow and develop until in the long term they are able to either fully divest from the current system or, more radically, actively challenge it.
                TLDR: Keep the government and big business out of your life as much as is reasonable for you.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >
                >Resolving conflict with community accountability and support rather than calling police (ESPECIALLY effective with Domestic Violence)
                Anon...this is only the case in "liberal" western countries

                If a girl is in india or even Latin America she's better off calling the cops instead of getting victim blamed by the "community"

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You think cops in the global south are LESS dangerous to people?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Capitalism isn't the problem, the corpocracy is the problem

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Capitalism has never existed without corpocracy. It's like saying "AIDS is fine, its HIV that's the issue."

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't see how the Miller bros. Company of ancient Rome are comparable to one corporation owning half of fast food.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because the mass accumulation of wealth will always create oligarchal systems where whoever has that wealth has cast control over everyone who doesn't, Europe used to be ruled by nobility in golden castles now it is ruled by multi-billionaires in giant mansions. It is impossible for the ultrawealthy to not rule everyone else because that is by definition what being wealthy means.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Europe used to be ruled by nobility in golden castles
                Is this that "dark ages" mentality I hear about so often?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Metaphorically golden castles, as in castle filled with gold and built on mass wealth. The "dark ages" are straight up a meme, an inaccurate statement.

                My point is that there has never once even a capitalistic society in human history that wasn't oligarchal because the accumulation of mass wealth by individuals is by definition oligarchal.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                So where's the ideal? Hunter-gatherers? Does the collection of grain count as oligarchy?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sharing of resources scaled by the size of the society in question. I suggest reading 'The Dawn of Everything" its a great book about the development of social systems. Oligarchal-Capital systems aren't the only way to organize a post-agricultural society and for most of history they weren't. It just so happened by the luck of the draw those type of societies came to slowly dominate the planet but nothing about that was inherently inevitable.
                I think the Mi'kmaq system for example would work pretty well, if anything our modern technology would make it easier to operate, not harder.
                Check out "Jesuit Relations of New France"
                https://rla.unc.edu/Louisiane/jesuit.html
                good stuff.
                (In English terms you could compare this to something like Voluntaryism)
                In fact, there is strong evidence that our modern capital system is mechanically speaking the systems of primitive communism but with an oligarchal veneer overlaid onto it. You can strip off the veneer and the core would still function.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Because Pepsi and Coke are just sugar drinks that are barely distinguishable from each other so no one cares
          No they're not

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The problem is that we used to have seven major film studios. We're down to 5 now, after Disney ate Fox. If WB is allowed to eat Paramount, the combined company will literally count as 1/3 of the entire entertainment industry.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Public school food usually is competitive. The problem is it follows capitalism and contracts are won by the lowest bidder.

          Guess where the winners make cuts?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dumbfrick here. Lets keep this shit Cinemaphile. So, whats at stake here?

      WB has DC. the looney tunes, Cartoon network,

      Paramount has star trek cartoons. Nick, TMNT, spongebob,

      We still have more than two channels.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would they keep CN and Nick?
        Decide which one dies

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          If this were another country, they would be force to sell one of them

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nick will lose Teenick, Nicktoons, NickToo or whatever they’re calling it these days.
          But both CN and Nickelodeon itself will remain.
          I assume TVLand and Boomerang will remain too.

          Expect Nick to has less new Cartoons and more live action fair, while all animated stuff flows to CN.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nicktoons is the bigger IP, people here prefer CN but SpongeBob tips the scales too much

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nick has too many channels and theme parks to shutter for WB. CN is literally being killed by Zaslav no way it is not getting absorbed

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The Live Action stuff and SpongeBob tip the scales

              Current Cartoon network is a joke, literally the only reason why people don't want it dead is because of 20 years old cartoons or AT/Regular Show/Steven Universe , Craig of the Creek is an insect compared to Loud House and SpongeBob, nevermind the Live Action stuff

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The big one is Nick Jr. Nick Jr prints money compared to the entire CN brand, it’s the reason cartoonito even exists and that’s a joke by comparison.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Paw patrol is the Huge cash cow. I don't know how much value "Nick Jr" itself holds.

                Although I question the value of any of the literal channels. I see a world in which "Nicktoons" "Nick Jr" and "Cartoon Network" are just brand names imprints the way Disney treats "Marvel" and "Star Wars."

                Like this year Disney Channel Original Movies changed names to "Disney Channel Original Movies." In a post cable world the literal Disney Channel brand doesn't hole pull with kids . But the word "Disney" does.
                Toonami and Adult Swim both skew older so i can see them staying on linear tv for a while.

                Cartoon Network I think lives on but just as a studio branding like Lucasfilm same with Nicktoons.

                If this fusion goes through the way i see it, the unified Streaming app will have a "younger kids" page that has Paw Patrol, Spongebob and most of the Nick Jr stuff as well as any CN stuff that fits that bucket .
                Then CN becomes a page for the older kids and early teens for most of the other stuff.
                Toonami would be a page for action cartoons and anime and anime inspired stuff.
                MTV gets a page for MTV stuff and VH1 stuff.
                DC gets its own subpage
                So does TMNT.
                For linear I think adult Swim stays, and Cartoon Network becomes almost a rump channel. And that status quo will live on until cable finally starts dying off for real.
                Nickelodean stays. I don't think Nicktoons stays.
                I don't think teennick stays either.
                MTV stays but the spinoff channels are likely to be trimmed back. Probabaly just it and VH1

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The value is in the name.
                Nicktoons holds a very strong identity, just like how “Nickelodeon” has been synonymous with kids entertainment since the 1970’s. Nick Jr, through stuff like paw patrol, Dora, Peppa pig, blue’s clues, Bubble Guppies, and shimmer and shine has become an institution in households world wide, and does especially well on YouTube. Noggin/Nick Jr does more for education than Disney Junior does, and unlike Disney, Nick keeps shows running longer than 4 seasons leading to massive content libraries.
                Having the name “Nick Jr” on a show for kids distinguishes it from a lot of the shlock for small kids, an issue Netflix and Amazon have been suffering from in this market. It’s hard to see when you’re not a parent, but Nick Jr is a really big deal and likely the reason Nick is even still around outside of SpongeBob.

                Cartoon Network has a branding problem and isn’t a very valuable name these days, but Adult Swim does have a unique identity and it IS a very valuable brand as a result. Adult Swim built itself on small budget but hyper experimental shows that may range in quality, but always kept the channel interesting and the brand Alive. They’ve been faltering a bit under discovery, but the brand is far from damaged.

                There’s real potential for a company that has the brand power of Nick Jr and Adult swim to dominate the two largest markets, 0-6 and 18-35

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for the clarification.
                So yes to summarize

                >Max+ Pages
                Nick Jr
                Nick
                Cartoon Network
                Toonami
                Adult Swim
                TMNT
                DC
                Discovery
                30 Day Universe
                MTV

                >Linear
                Nick/Nick Jr
                Cartoon Network/Adult Swim
                Discovery
                MTV
                VH1( Probabaly going to be phased out)

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Make one of them all kids shit, the other one all adult swim, older kids shit. Or make one boys tilted the other girls titled..

          The article they linked, while also being bullshit didn't even SAY Liefield claimed that .
          They just posted a link that didn't 404 and made up a rage baiting headline and got 400 (you)s out of it .

          That sounds more like a shitposter rather than a lying moron.

          This anon

          Nope, Anon clearly typed DC would be KILL in 2024 and the other anon has been repeating and posting his bankruptcy shit at least once per day for the past week plus.

          So they are lying morons?

          is ALSO a giant shiposter, who's either too dumb to not promote blatant garbage, or was in on it to begin with, and is clearly trying to derail the thread with trash.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's like a and photo copy.
            lifeld makes a vague tweet, some blogger writes a 600 word rant about it, then it gets posted to Cinemaphile with a an even more sensationalist headline. it even has an OP with the words in it for easy reposting in threads.
            Shits like an infection

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            That McDonald's toy division stuff doesn't work anymore. Hell it's what got YJ and Tower Prep canceled.
            The hardest challenge for kids cable brands coming up is how kids watch less and less cable.
            There is a universe where the nicktoons YouTube channel makes more money than Nickelodeon does on tv.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think CN has always been the better network but Nickelodeon is more diversified and has more of a "brand" feeling in the eyes of boomer executives (mostly because of the success of Schneidershit) so that's probably the one that lives.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          They'd keep the Nick branding since it's arguably the bigger brand, but dump all their cartoons on it.

          Maybe rebrand Comedy Central into an Adult Swim channel

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        A Garfield show on adult swim would be kink as frick.

        But also, mixing avatar studios with the anime stuff adult swim makes could in theory create a true western anime studio as AS is more experienced with that than the avatar studio that has yet to release a project

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          And all AS has released is shit.

          There is no such thing as western anime. You will never be Japanese

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Space Dandy was shit
            moron alert

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >dumbfrick doesn’t even know what he is talking about
              Adult Swim has zero to do with the production of Space Dandy. They bought the right to world premier it in English, nothing more nothing less. And the only reason Japan even agreed to that deal is because Space Dandy was projected to flop in Japan (which it did). Here is the list of original anime to come from AS
              >Big O season 2
              >Ghost in the Shell season 2
              18 year time gap
              >FLCL: Progressive
              >FLCL: Alternative
              >Fena: Pirate Princess
              >Blade Runner - Black Lotus
              >Shenmue: The Animation
              >Housing Complex C
              >FLCL: Grunge
              >FLCL: Shoegaze
              >Rick and Morty: The Anime (slated for next year)
              >Uzumaki (gets delayed every year and likely will never release)

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cringe post. kys.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      RULES FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You should have already learned that monopoly laws don't exist anymore when Microsoft was allowed to buy Activision wholesale.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Microsoft was allowed to buy Activision wholesale.
        Wrong.

        When the frick are the monopoly laws gonna kick in already?

        > monopoly laws gonna kick in already
        American politicians dont trigger antitrust against real monopolies like Apple , Google, and Amazon. Mid size businesses should not legally be allowed to grow too big.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Wrong.

          The thing is, morons like him will never understand that Disney's and Microsoft's transactions were allowed to happen because each country's market regulators approved it to happen. Both companies also had to divest in specific areas just to gain approval. It's not at all like a video game where the protagonist can just offer up briefcases full of cold hard cash and expect every shareholder to approve.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Im pretty sure they need approval of the regulator only in the states , considering both companies are US-based.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              They needed approval from all countries because MS operates in all of those nations. Stop being a Cinemaphile level megatard.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"well the debt became too big, what we do?"
      And so the story repeats itself.

      people cares about monopoly only if Disney or Apple are involved, otherwise you have drone answers like "we still have more than two channels"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Apple's devices are everywhere. Microsoft has never stopped to spread since its creation. Disney buying Fox was the world's biggest animation studio buying the world's biggest movie studio.

        This... this is the merge of losers. No one cares.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The endgame of this is every channel merging back together like cable. It'll be Netflix vs Disney/WB/Etc for a few years until Netflix runs out of funding.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      the current FTC is a joke

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If this happens, dear god.

      Hahaha, no. Disney can frankly buy DC comics if they limit production of new comic books unironically. They do not care with dying industries.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      damn

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      When the Micronova comes in 2045.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nick and CN becoming one
    what a crazy world this has become, I want off this ride

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Call it WarnerMount

    CN and Nick and DC and TMNT are gonna be under one roof bros

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since we've had Batman and TMNT, now lets do Green Arrow and TMNT.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ninja Turtles being part of DC

        I'm not opposed to that

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >CN and Nick and DC and TMNT are gonna be under one roof bros

      Bring on the Aquaman/Mermaid Man team up comics.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Warner's Mount

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I though Mr. Pouches I-Invented-Deadpool said DC would be killed in 2024.

    And hasn't some anon been saying that Warner Brothers would be bankrupt for the last two weeks?

    Are these anons lying to us?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Are these anons lying to us?
      No. Lying is different from being a fricking moron.

      Take a look at IDW. IDW realistically may be bankrupt next year. WB has loads of space to frick up.

      Now the DIRECT market might collapse completely soon, but that's not the same as DC.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, Anon clearly typed DC would be KILL in 2024 and the other anon has been repeating and posting his bankruptcy shit at least once per day for the past week plus.

        So they are lying morons?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          The article they linked, while also being bullshit didn't even SAY Liefield claimed that .
          They just posted a link that didn't 404 and made up a rage baiting headline and got 400 (you)s out of it .

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon...DC Comics is irrelevant to this deal. What they would bring in would be chump change compared to the value of the SpongeBob IP.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >implying that SpongeBob isn't as valuable as Batman or the Joker
        get a grip.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes? Warner Discovery is currently negotiating three different major deals AT least. They've always been in a not good spot compared to pre-ATT buyout, but they've never been in danger of shutting down and the DC catalog is too important for Warner to kill the accounting blip that DC comics itself is.

      Anyone who comes here with INSIDER INFO about DC comics being the central tentpole of Warner Bros Discovery is lying to you and you are a moron for even remembering it.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cartoon Nickwork

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So does that mean the enviable crossover will happen?
    Also South Park and Beavisand Butthead finally airing on Adult Swim

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It will end up like pick related

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nickelodeon jobs out all of the CN stuff to make themselves look better and it ends with Tommy Pickles winning the feud for Nickelodeon by defeating CN's champion and star, Rocko

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh. Daria would fit in prefect on Adult Swim. Not all of AS shows are raunchy blood and violence.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        We would absolutely without a doubt get Daria with the OG music on Adult Swim.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >with the OG music
          >AS paying out for all those licenses
          Lmao you are deluded

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Adult Swim can’t even afford the rights to ONE song for more than a month, as we see with the yearly Rick and Morty promos starting with a licensed song and then after a month swapping to a generic track

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Venture Bros had to BEG for AS to pony up for the rights for a minor club hit. They aren't going to bother going into the music rights for a 25 year old MTV series.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for Lower Decks to get two complete seasons sent to the memory hole as a tax write off.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >killing horrible adult animation
      wtf I love Zaslav now

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's going to be one massive IP estate sale after they go under.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alright Cinemaphile please your bets—

    Which Nick shows will he write off for taxes?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything except SpongeBob and The Loud House.
      Unless they just straight up dissolve CN or Nick into the other. I'd bet Nick would survive in that case as it has a stronger brand identity.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He won’t write off a decent bit of the 2000s stuff and all the 90s stuff, way too marketable

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          The way the write offs work is they have to be completed works that have not been released, so you can write down the cost of making them as loss. You can't write down something that stopped airing years ago.
          People keep confusing stuff being cancelled due to Zazlav being cheap (infinity train) with write downs (Coyote v Acme)

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm worried The Loud House is exactly what he'd write off because it's the second fiddle for Nick and I'm sure he'd rather a WB property take that position.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I’m concerned about ‘Craig of the Creek’.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          good, tlh went on for way too long.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Harvey Beaks and It's Pony

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nick will just become a 24/7 Spongebob channel in the near future. People have been claiming that for 16 years, but it might finally happen.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that new Rock, Paper, Scissors cartoon is NOT making it to air

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        We will be spared the gay space rhino? Could be worse

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ive seen a few episodes of Rock Paper Scissors, it's not that bad. It's pretty inoffensive and is just a decent good time. Unless you're insanely sensitive like

        We will be spared the gay space rhino? Could be worse

        If it gets cancelled quickly like everything else these days I'll only be a little bit sad.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Glitch Techs is gonna die and finally the fans will get an answer

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Aang and TNMT in the DCU
    YES YES YES YES YES

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit I forgot about Atla. Warners has been desperate for a big franchise IP, I can see Avatar Studios getting a lot of investment if this goes through.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit I forgot about Atla. Warners has been desperate for a big franchise IP, I can see Avatar Studios getting a lot of investment if this goes through.

      >Avatar x TMNT x RWBY x Justice League

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Avatar x RWBY
        Finally, the battle of fake anime.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Earth Avatar Series premier on Toonami

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, Paramount is actually in worse trouble than Warner, so you are advocating for two companies to dissolve and have their IP given to Amazon

        >Avatar x RWBY
        Finally, the battle of fake anime.

        >Earth Avatar Series premier on Toonami

        Both Avatar?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine if Disney then buys Warmount...
          >Avatar vs Avatar vs TNMT vs Batman vs Danny Phantom vs Spider-man...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >vs Gandalf the Gray and Gandalf the white

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cross Tag Battle 2

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Anarchosyndcalist in me recognizes this is an evil monopolization of wealth and reasources and will be a met negative for art and the world.
    The consumerist 14 year old need boy in me is excited about the Ninja Turtles being in the DC universe.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Batman meets Garfield
    Instant Billion right there

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      not even scooby doo meets garfield? come on think smarter not harder.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    ... Ugh... Gross. I mean, it really is gross, isn't it? The Disney/FOX merger was bad, most of FOX's planned projects were cancelled in favor of making more Star Wars and Marvel bullshit that ended up declining. All that is left of FOX are just the IPs that originated with them and those are clearly a lower priority. If this happens, then it'll just be the same shit, it's really terrifying to think these companies are just going to eat each other like this rather than grow. How sad is it to think that five years ago, Hollywood had six major studios and now we're looking at the possibility of there only being four? You'd at least hope the smaller ones would grow to fill the power gap but they just aren't, if anything they end up subjected to mergers as well.

    As for how this would affect anything Cinemaphile related?... I guess DC would be the publisher of TMNT and Garfield? The Avatar projects would be canned?

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >This image could be officially canon by next year.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that Numbuh One or did Grant Morrison sneak back into a fictionsuit again

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The KND creator is a bit comic and Pokemon need (was literally in message boards asking people to vote for the pilot)
        it wouldn't surprise me if Numbuh One was a conscious King Mob/Spider Jerusalem reference.
        So yes Numbuh One might actually be another Grant Morrison fiction suit.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Reminder there was that whole episode that was a deliberate homage to The Second Renaissance from The Animatrix so I buy it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Daria has always felt so out of place here.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This, she's not even smart, just sarcastic and dour.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man, being a Star Trek fan is pure suffering. You thought Paramount mishandled the franchise? Now it'll be in the hands of frickin' Warner.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      WB needs their Star Wars killer

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally doing noting at all is a Star Wars killer. Disney fricking sucked at handling it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but it's WB we're talking about

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          The tv shows are ok

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are they really tho? Besides Andor.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Star Trek, even if it was good right now, is never going to be that.
        The best chance Trek had for mainstream success was Tarantino's movie, but that's no longer happening.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The best chance Trek had for mainstream success was Tarantino's movie, but that's no longer happening.
          He just wanted to make an R-rated feature length version of the episode where they go to the gangster planet. I really doubt it would've made *Star Trek* as an IP a mainstream success.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            R rated blockbusters are big right now.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m okay with this if it means the Kurtzman-Goldsman-McMahan cabal will suffer.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        ...huh. Star Trek Discovery's final season becoming a tax write-off is possible, isn't it?

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >XJ9 and Danny Phantom on the Teen Titans
    >Nicktoons showing up on Checked Past
    >Kappa Mikey on Toonami
    >Brawlhala vs All Star Brawl Game of the Year 2027

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >caring at all about modern CN/Nick

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This shit will be 9/11 for the ANIMATION IS CINEMA crowd.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paramount and Warner barely make any animated movies anyway. It won't affect their Disnar IllumiWorks onions garbage at all.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    ... but why? what do WBD and Paramount have that the other needs?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      WBD has been talking about offloading it's shit since it formed. From a certain point of view the entire POINT of WBD was to form a company attractive enough to offload as soon as possible
      Paramount hasba pretty complicated ownership structure but Shari Redstone was talking about selling off her stake about a week ago

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is bullshit that YT idiots promoted since day one. While the DISCO suits might sell or spin off something, the only companies who could afford Warner Media are Apple, who isn't interested in the entire thing and Amazon, which now that it owns MGM can parlay that and Amazon Studios for it's own needs and doesn't need the headaches and crap related to everything else that would come with owning another studio much less Warner Media.

        The people that keep mouthing off about Disney buying stuff are too stupid to live and not worth wasting time typing out a reply about as they have no concept of how things work with anti-trust or IRL business.

        ... but why? what do WBD and Paramount have that the other needs?

        When the frick are the monopoly laws gonna kick in already?

        >monopoly laws

        Paramount isn't going to be a simple straight merger. More than likely the Justice Department would allow merging streaming service, which is what Paramount wants out of that. The production assets, both TV and movie studio itself would probably need to be sold and combined with someone else who doesn't have their own antitrust problems (so not Disney OR Universal); it would be logical and benefit Lionsgate and possibly appeal to Sony but might make more sense to split with Sony or Lionsgate and let MGM/Amazon picks up the studio but Bezos might not want to pay without getting access to the Paramount library which Zaslav wouldn't be stupid enough to part with it - at least not without a co-exclusivity agreement like he has been making with Netflix.

        This would be, what, the third or fourth merger WB has been involved with just in the last half-decade, right?

        Plus aren't they incredibly saddled with debt BECAUSE of those mergers? How are they buying anything right now?

        And yes, I know the answer is modern economics is smoke and mirrors but come one.

        >third or fourth merger WB has been involved with just in the last half-decade

        >This would be, what, the third or fourth merger WB has been involved with just in the last half-decade, right?
        Yea.

        >Plus aren't they incredibly saddled with debt BECAUSE of those mergers? How are they buying anything right now?

        No idea but this is going to blow up in Paramount’s and WB’s faces. Again.

        >Yea.

        AT&T was a merger. The agreement with DISCO was a joint venture of a particular tax type and nothing can be done until May of 2024.

        Also Paramount will sell off other parts of itself making whatever deal happens - if it happens - cheaper:
        https://deadline.com/2023/12/bet-byron-allen-paramount-global-1235679148/

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAHAHA
    frick cyberpunk just might becone reality

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Netflix Avatar shows will be tax write-offs too

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zaslav buys Cinemaphile from Hiro

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    im gonna laugh my ass off when Netflix just buys them both

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    This would be, what, the third or fourth merger WB has been involved with just in the last half-decade, right?

    Plus aren't they incredibly saddled with debt BECAUSE of those mergers? How are they buying anything right now?

    And yes, I know the answer is modern economics is smoke and mirrors but come one.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This would be, what, the third or fourth merger WB has been involved with just in the last half-decade, right?
      Yea.

      >Plus aren't they incredibly saddled with debt BECAUSE of those mergers? How are they buying anything right now?

      No idea but this is going to blow up in Paramount’s and WB’s faces. Again.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      WB failed mergers:

      >Atari
      >Six Flags
      >AOL
      >Timelife communications
      >AT&T
      >Discovery(ain’t looking too hot)

      WB has been merging since the 1980’s and each one has been a disaster. They’re all but cursed when it comes to this

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why? WB almost killed AT&T and Discovery with its debt. Why would you want to attach themselves to it?

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is WBD doing well, or Paramount, or are they both doing shit? I can't imagine adding even more parts to this corporate chimera will fix the fundamental problems they have.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paramount is doing even worse than Warner but they are discreet about it.

  27. 4 months ago
    truteal

    >Overshadowed by SpongeBob

    What else is new?

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy frick, WB is like a tumor that keeps spreading. Keep Paramount away from this.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get why they just gut Warner for IPs. Paramount could buy Batman and Looney Toons and leave everything else from Warner to rot and die.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No need to do that when you can just merge and spin off any assets you don't want.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care unless we get official Lola x Sandy smut

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >WB doesn't have enough money to release Coyote vs Acme
    >but they DO have enough money to buy Paramount

    you've gotta be kidding me

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>but they DO have enough money to buy-
      This is not an acquisition.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The article specifies that Warner would be the buyer.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like this is going to fall through and lead to nothing.

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Phineas?

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic 3 gets shelved for tax purposes

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      GOOD

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That would be a good thing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      sad I wanted to see big rouge breasts at the movies

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >inb3 we get Sonic vs Flash in Multiversus

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Denying family audiences the world over an opportunity to watch an eight year old girl be shot to death.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      EVEN MORE REASON TO PIRATE EVERYTHING

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody knows how the tard revolts of 2024 started. They only remember the weird blue hedgehog banners...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The streets would run red.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too big to be shelved but definitely delayed for reshoots

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has any merger of this level ever benefited one of the companies, let alone both of them?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are we counting Disney Pixar? That was technically a buyout but there was so much stock involved the owner of Pixar became lead shareholder of Disney

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't about benefitting the companies, it's about getting big fat paychecks for the C-suites and 'shareholders'.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, that worked out SUPER well for HBO /s

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what Cinemaphile related stuff would this give WB from Paramount? I know Nickelodeon but anything else like any classic shorts?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paramount owns some Fleischer cartoons that WB doesn't already have/that aren't in the public domain yet. I guess they'd get the Betty Boop library

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nicktoons catalog (including ATLA, Spongebob, etc)
      >TMNT
      >Garfield
      >Sonic, Halo & Hasbro IP licenses
      >whatever Fleischer cartoon short that has yet to fall into the public domain
      >Terrytoons catalog (Mighty Mouse, etc)
      >MTV/Comedy Central adult animated show catalog (Beavis & Butthead, South Park, Daria, Liquid Television, Aeon Flux, Clone High, Drawn Together, etc)
      It would've been cool to see Adult Swim re-air old MTV animated shows tbh. Maybe as a block alongside Checkered Past, or as part of Toonami. Really fits their mold.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't WB already have Clone High?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think it's still a Viacom show just airing on Max

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            If I remember correctly, the rights for the original Clone High was split between Viacom, Nelvana, WB, and Buena Vista. There's a reason why it took 2 decades for a reboot to happen, and it's not just because of Ghandi.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly Liquid Televison felt more Adult Swim/ Toonami esque than MTV. Aeon Flux and the Maxx especially.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >part of Toonami
        Frick off, Toonami is for anime

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of Liquid Television fits Toonami a lot. Especially The Maxx and Aeon Flux. Remember Toonami also aired a lot of western superhero shows like Justice Leauge and even Fantastic Four (which fun fact, pissed off DC/Warners so much it eventually led to Young Justice getting made.)

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yea, 20 years ago when they were stuck on CN and most anime didn’t pass S&P. It’s a midnight block now and doesn’t need to dig for table scraps.

            Plus, old content always bombs on Toonami anyway

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Did you just call JLU table scraps?

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's too bad. I figured Warner would merge eventually but with Paramount? Aren't they in the same position debt-wise?

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Courts will never let this happen. They were already iffy about the last Warner merger

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >merges
    >company still enters bankruptcy
    These people are insane

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're too big to fail

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >merges
        >company still enters bankruptcy
        These people are insane

        Unironically nationalize these companies.

        Mickey Mouse, Superman and Scooby Doo are cultural heritage that should belong to the people as a whole.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They're too big to fail
        They’re literally failing and before the news of this announcement analysts said WBD WILL be going bankrupt in 10 years and Paramount in 5 if they don’t sell shit off. This is just delaying their demise

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only way for American entertainment to compete with China’s state back forces is to become American Entertainment INC.

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt the rumor will be true, and if it is, WB will just drop everything to save itself from bankrupcy.

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they merge
    >every paramount/viacom ip loses content and cancels upcoming projects
    Cool!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile, we get 10 more seasons of Velma and Fionna and Cake garbage

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fionna and Cake was good.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          No it wasn't, it was bad just like most of AT was after season 3

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree with you.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're a homosexual.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                go outside.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go frick yourself.

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    There may be a crash but the IP is eternal. Even if the companies go bankrupt someone will just buy them up and the cycle will continue.

    Hopefully when they crash the bits and pieces are picked up by different owners so we don't have these big megacorps anymore.

    It would be horrible if one fails just to get gobbled up by Disney or Apple or Amazon to the like

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Most Japanese companies are gonna be safe, like Nintendo, Toho, Tsuburaya.

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So are the TMNT gonna become a DC property like Shazam became one?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not? Viacom paid big bucks to get the TMNT, and Playmates owns the rest of TMNT.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Viacom is owned by Paramount (Or rather what was at one point ViacobCBS was renamed Paramount for brand recognition)

        Also the TMNT deal gave Keven the right to publish 12 issues of TMNT a year so I am not sure how that caries over if it gets sold off
        But I don't have any source of them owning TMNT. Got a link?

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given that Sony fricked up Men in Black and lost James Bond and is essentially Jumanji and Spiderman now

    Are we heading for a big three? Universal Disney and this new company

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the name of the company will be if this happens? Warner Paramount Discovery?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What the name of the company will be if this happens? Warner Paramount Discovery?
      Paramount Warner Discovery
      PWD
      Aka Puny White dick and it will be memed as so

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        The discovery name would be dropped, it’s the least valuable of the three

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Warner Paramount should be ideal imo.

      This is bullshit that YT idiots promoted since day one. While the DISCO suits might sell or spin off something, the only companies who could afford Warner Media are Apple, who isn't interested in the entire thing and Amazon, which now that it owns MGM can parlay that and Amazon Studios for it's own needs and doesn't need the headaches and crap related to everything else that would come with owning another studio much less Warner Media.

      The people that keep mouthing off about Disney buying stuff are too stupid to live and not worth wasting time typing out a reply about as they have no concept of how things work with anti-trust or IRL business.

      [...]
      [...]
      >monopoly laws

      Paramount isn't going to be a simple straight merger. More than likely the Justice Department would allow merging streaming service, which is what Paramount wants out of that. The production assets, both TV and movie studio itself would probably need to be sold and combined with someone else who doesn't have their own antitrust problems (so not Disney OR Universal); it would be logical and benefit Lionsgate and possibly appeal to Sony but might make more sense to split with Sony or Lionsgate and let MGM/Amazon picks up the studio but Bezos might not want to pay without getting access to the Paramount library which Zaslav wouldn't be stupid enough to part with it - at least not without a co-exclusivity agreement like he has been making with Netflix.

      [...]
      >third or fourth merger WB has been involved with just in the last half-decade
      [...]
      >Yea.

      AT&T was a merger. The agreement with DISCO was a joint venture of a particular tax type and nothing can be done until May of 2024.

      Also Paramount will sell off other parts of itself making whatever deal happens - if it happens - cheaper:
      https://deadline.com/2023/12/bet-byron-allen-paramount-global-1235679148/

      Woundn't it be ideal for Warner to just dissolve and let either Amazon or Apple to buy its assets without dealing with the headache of managing the actual company?
      Honestly would be interesting to see Amazon buy the classic MGM movie library back from Warner.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, Paramount is actually in worse trouble than Warner, so you are advocating for two companies to dissolve and have their IP given to Amazon

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, Paramount is actually in worse trouble than Warner, so you are advocating for two companies to dissolve and have their IP given to Amazon

        Wouldn't it make more sense for Universal to buy up WB (and Paramount)? Universal and WB have worked on many things together in the past, and I'm pretty sure they're not in the same rut that WB or Paramount are currently in.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          By that point It would be Universal vs Disney for the Traditional market

          And lawyers aren't gonna allow Universal to buy anything, Disney was ONLY allowed to buy fox so that Comcast wouldn't buy it

          >But Microsoft

          That's a completely different market

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah, Universal is Comcast, I forgot about that.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The big issue is the networks, by law you can only own one.
            Disney has ABC
            Universal has NBC
            Paramount has CBS
            Fox is now independent

            That’s it, those are the 4.

            Then there’s the stuff you can’t buy if you own the alternative.

            Disney already has ABC news and ESPN so it couldn’t own Fox News and fox sports.

            Warner Discovery has CNN, Which will create conflict with CBS, so likely CNN will have to go indie or be not included.

            Paramount owns Showtime and Warner Disco owns HBO, which might cause an issue as both are major PPV sports broadcasters and in the premium movie network space

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >he thinks monoply laws are applied
              AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                They are
                Even Google barely won the case for buying YouTube

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHOOoooo

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Even Google barely won the case for buying YouTube
                But they DID win so?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Woundn't it be ideal for Warner to just dissolve

        Disney, WB and Paramount all have a lot of debt. A company can cease to exist and go into legit bankruptcy and discharge that debt that way, which ends up hosing a lot of people, including stock holders. Zaslav's millions are in DISCO and Warner Media stock, he's not going to hose his ass just because some Cinemaphile chuds are claiming that WB will be bankrupt tomorrow (or changing their goal posts, within ten years). And he's certainly not going to hose himself because some twitter b***h or some YouTube vloggers want to live their best lives on clicks.

        Apple doesn't want to buy that much headaches or get into all that business. They might underwrite say a billion of the cost for unlimited non-exclusive access to say 10 different WB movies a month, and unlimited mutually co-exclusive access to some Paramount stuff, like Star Trek since they are becoming known for SciFi stuff.

        Amazon owns MGM. It can easily buy a chain of theaters, which would be another good entry point for a Crapazom Locker location with regular and late night staffing, plus a good place to sell gift cards and electronics and other items during the holidays and even do pop-ups. THAT makes way more sense to Bezos and wouldn't cost either $10B much less $30B plus debt.

        [...]
        Wouldn't it make more sense for Universal to buy up WB (and Paramount)? Universal and WB have worked on many things together in the past, and I'm pretty sure they're not in the same rut that WB or Paramount are currently in.

        As the other anon responded, Universal can't buy Paramount unless they divested and sold CBS separately. WB can merge with them because they can sell stuff off to pay off debt (like BET and other cable channels like MTV and VH1) and they don't own any tv stations.

        Universal is a big producer of tv shows and a movie studio. The feds won't allow a similar merger to the one that kept Fox TV and movie production intact when the sale happened to Disney. More than likely they will make them sell part of that to someone else.

        Apple might be interested in that if Skydance wanted to buy with them and do the actual running (see Pixar under Jobs).

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based Universal coming out smelling like roses.
          Who’s laughing at Peawiener now?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Who's even watching Peawiener?

            >Square-Enix

            Well Square Enix is hinting that Classic Star Wars is going to become a world in Kingdom Hearts. So yeah these large acquisitions and mergers do help some companies. The real question is, I wonder if these other companies like Discovery and Universal will seek Japanese gaming developers like Capcom, Konami, Sega, etc to do their own Kingdom Hearts knock off? You know they are tempted to do it.

            Stop ban evading.

            the current FTC is a joke

            It won't get any better if there aren't any stronger laws written to replace the old ones.

            Surprisingly, sounds like even investors are sick of movie studio consolidation. Might be the one thing that stops this from happening.

            https://deadline.com/2023/12/paramount-warner-bros-discovery-merger-talks-questions-1235679309/

            >When the opening bell rang on Wall Street, however, investors didn’t exactly give the idea of “Warnamount” a ringing endorsement. Shares of Paramount slipped 1% and WBD slid 4% in early trading. Paramount is 40% below its 52-week high, and WBD has lost more than half its value since the April 2022 close of the WarnerMedia-Discovery merger.

            >While the business has reckoned with more seismic deals in recent years, among them Disney-Fox and AT&T-Time Warner, this time the reality seems to be dawning that bigger is not always better. Streaming platforms swim in red ink and legacy media assets (mainly linear TV) are eroding. Yes, Zaslav has hinted at opportunities to be had, but WBD was not really considered a buyer given its oft-stated focus on reducing its enormous debt. It’s not clear how trying to swallow a company with hefty debt of its own solves any problems.

            >Citi media analyst Jason Bazinet told Deadline he sees little upside to the combination. Investors “watched CBS and Viacom merge,” he said. “They watched Disney and Fox merge. And they watched Discovery buy Scripps and [merge] with Warner Bros. Discovery. And none of those were the elixir that allowed you to generate huge amounts of cash flow.” A company message of “‘We have this great idea, we need to do more M&A,’” he said, won’t go over as well as it once did, “because you can’t draw a straight line between M&A and profitability in streaming.”

            More like investors are sick of Warner trying to catch a break when it couldn't save its own ass from the DCEU's and Max's failure and starting dragging down everything around it.

            >Apple TV
            Have you heard of this service?

            Nobody's watching Apple TV.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >>who’s even watching Peawiener?

              Based Super Mario Bros movie fans, Five Nights At Freddy’s movie fans, M3gan fans,

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Super Mario Bros movie fans
                Netflix

                >Five Nights At Freddy’s movie fans
                Even a FNAF fan's not going to subscribe to Peawiener for just one movie

                >M3gan fans
                Oddly specific, but her movie's on Prime too

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Who's even watching Peawiener?
              WWE fans.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              frick you severance is kino & pace, harris and mann carry foundation

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Woundn't it be ideal for Warner to just dissolve
        It will. It's only a matter of time.

        WBD has lost half its stock price since the merger. It is dying. And Paramount won't change that.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, Warnermount? Or Para Bros.?
      inb4 app named Paramax

      I prefer WMD. Wouldn't want to be anywhere near it when it finally explodes.

      How the frick would the FCC not step in and stop it for being a monopoly? 6 years ago it was already shocking that the FCC didn't step in when Disney ate up Fox.

      And Disney divested from everything related to Fox Sports and local news channels.

      How the frick would the FCC not step in and stop it for being a monopoly?

      Because the man appointed by TFG was nothing but a corporate shill who helped corporatize the internet by repealing neutrality rules.

      When the frick are the monopoly laws gonna kick in already?

      RULES FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR ME

      Where's the monopoly, Mansley?

      You should have already learned that monopoly laws don't exist anymore when Microsoft was allowed to buy Activision wholesale.

      Hush, Wrong board. Adults are talking.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Obvious shill.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >this moron can't read past two sentences

          >no refutation

          Ok, bye.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Frick off, then.

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Warner Bros go five years without merging challenge (impossible)

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because this went SO well for Discovery when they bought WB.

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It would be Warner bros interactive since they already make a ton of games, meaning it would likely be rocksteady games whether you like it or not

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick would the FCC not step in and stop it for being a monopoly? 6 years ago it was already shocking that the FCC didn't step in when Disney ate up Fox.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The FCC has nothing to do with monopolies would be my first guess

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope
        >https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/fccs-review-broadcast-ownership-rules
        Especially in terms of Network TV which is where all the excess baggage is these days.

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Reminder Sony games like TLOU 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn 2 cost over 220 Million Dollars each without advertising, and Spiderman 2 (PS) Needed 300 Million Dollars

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always thought Paramount would merge with Peawiener as they're both the weakest links in the streaming wars.

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Zaslav terminates the Transformers movie franchise
    It’s a Christmas miracle, Charlie Brown!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >also transformers as a whole

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m fine with that
        t. /toy/gay

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought they stopped making those

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, released one last year, and it set up a new GI Joe to be tied into it. Add the Power Rangers to it, and we'll have it just like the RPG books.

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If Nick and CN Merge
    What happens to the reality show stuff

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      More Destory Build Destroy on CN! Woohoo!

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Andrew WK deleted his entire existence and is only heard from when Kat Dennings needs him at parties. So this is unlikely and the show would suck without him

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I could run WB better

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally everyone in this thread could.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep. How are they so stupid?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          They’re owned by discovery, which has exclusively been reality TV and disposable nature documentaries since the beginning. They weren’t equipped to handle real entertainment

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          WB is a bunch of competing fiefdoms that hate having to work together. It's why Cartoon Network and WB Animation are so dysfunctional with each other.
          Disney, while having a clear pecking order where certain mediums matter more then others, was much better at having its subsidiaries coordinate and cooperate as one big synergy machine instead of trying to sabotage each other. A solid system that ultimately doesn't matter anymore since all of those units are shitting the bed and self sabotaging now for different reasons.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't this always the case
            WB conservative animators always hated the Cartoon network stuff, they also hated Teen Titans iirc

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when people said Zaslav was a complete moron who would be thrown out of his position within a month?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Watching Final Space babies melt down over their garbage show rightfully being written off was comedy gold

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gigachad. I wonder how Zaslav will continue from here?

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait for the Rick and Morty episode where Rick destroys Bikini Bottom or Fairy World

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, Warnermount? Or Para Bros.?
    inb4 app named Paramax

  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Viacom will own Adult Swim and run it into the ground. You think its bad now you haven't seen anything.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Adult Swim is actually in great shape right now what do you mean?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        And viacom will crash it.

  61. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    and when the WB cancer kills off Paramount, the mouse will make his move.

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh yeah I forgot that both Warner and Paramount own small percentages of CW

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because that will help the Discovery/WB situation of being billions in debt. Absorb another failing studio and place themselves into even deeper debt!

  64. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    WBD debt: $44.80B
    WBD net worth: $28.43B
    Paramount debt: $15B
    Paramount net worth: $10B

    Kids watch Youtube. TV is dying. Cinema is dying.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      God this system is so silly.

      Technically speaking I can "afford" the whole of Paramount because its net value is negative 5 billion dollars.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It really isn’t. You owe more than you own for your car payment usually. Debt doesn’t mean you don’t have assets, it’s also not all debt in one spot

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DID YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO BUY US AND DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE 5 BILLION DOLLARS BUDDY IT'S YOUR FRICKING LUCKY DAY

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frankly, anybody can buy any company at any value they choose if they agree upon it. With companies in debt, they go for a lot cheaper. Million to even billion dollar companies go for 100k USD for someone else to accept the debt. Usually when a buyout happens like this, the people who control the debt for the company demand to be paid

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Technically speaking, you cannot.
        Paramount may owe 5 billion, but its market capitalization is $10 billion dollars. To buy every share from every shareholder, you not only need to pay them the stock value, but also a premium that is typically 30~50% the value of the stock. So you're looking at a price tag of somewhere around $14 billion, debt and all.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think we should start recognizing youtube as a form of TV.
      Its not dying just moved to a different set up.
      At the end of the day, if Mattpatt stuff is more profitable than Transformers 6, nothing stops Paramount from just buying the Theory channels. They just have to not dump a bunch of money into them because returns don't scale like that

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        YouTube is kind of hard to regulate, like the internet as a whole

        Especially when it's so international

        Lawmakers are just kicking the can as much as they can to avoid the Subject

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Canada is trying to put their hands on it. As usual, since they're protective over that sort of shit.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >we should start recognizing youtube as a form of TV
        You should keep your kids away from the ipad, you fricking degenerate. Stay the frick away from my internet.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I do think there is an argument about how access to media in general is having negative effects on youth, but I do not belive kids should never watch visual media ever and the way that works best for them watching said media is via the internet.

          The solution si higher regulation on platforms like youtube for kid content or frankly, outright nationalization of youtube.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >higher regulation
            I said frick off.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              When has ancap ever not led to a dystopia?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the internet in 1998 is ancap
                This is where directionbrain gets you.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The internet in 1998 didn't have iPad babies and people with 20 million views telling teenage boys rape is totally awesome or pushing "lifehacks" that will melt your skin off.

                Its not reasonable to have a parent be with there kid every waking moment they are online soa solution needs to be made.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its not reasonable to have a parent be with there kid every waking moment they are online
                They shouldn't be online in the first place. Stop enabling such degenerate behavior.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you suggesting the entire internet should be off limits to children?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm suggesting parents should take responsibility instead of having new regulations with new taxation passed just to enforce common sense.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lack of regulation literally caused this current situation. You better not cry when we enter a cyberpunk society.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the regulation of seeing bad words on the internet is the same as regulating the monopolisation of the entertainment industry
                Nuclear annihilation is the only way to escape your school of thought.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wait I’m actually moronic, didn’t read the original context.

                Yes, too much regulation over how clean media should be for kids or for everyone can be cringe.

                As for economics however… these mergers are getting too much. Something needs to kick in already.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >TV good
          >YT bad

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >reading comprehension
            Universal suffrage was a mistake if it allows someone as moronic as you to vote.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also once they've grown-up they quickly move to anime instead of sticking to censored loreSHIT western cartoons

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >western cartoons
        What Western cartoons? WBD already ended WB Animation. They're not even bothering to compete with anime, because they know they've lost.

  65. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's over DC bros. Manga won.

  66. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't these companies just be satisfied with all the shit they already own

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Paramount want to sell because they have debt issues that need resolving. WBD is buying because it needs to do something to appeal to shareholders.

      Keep in mind Discovery stocks have gone down 50% since the merger with WBD. They're at the verge of bankruptcy. If they continue to bleed investors they're going to hit the wall and die.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Linear TV is dying and streaming isn't that profitable.
        The entire industry is slowly collpasing because its business model is fundamentally flawed at this moment in time.

  67. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    WBD's stock price since the merger.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >barely a blip
      I

  68. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >own Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, DC, Hanna-Barbera, and Cartoon Network
    >"NOOOO we don't have anything to attract kids! We NEED to merge with Paramount and get access to Nick's IPs so we have a shot at competing with Disney!"

    Zaslav is a fricking idiot

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      As other anons are saying, he’s probably referring to Nick Jr./Noggin since WB has really shitty younger kids programming besides Sesame Street, which is more of a licensing thing they don’t own.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      and remember Zaslav was going to have Looney Tunes removed off MAX so it could be licensed to other services like Netflix, Prime, TUBI and Freevee (which is part of Prime and yet can be separate and is its own weird biome)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putting SpongeBob and Paw Patrol on Max still won't make kids want to use it. Hell they don't even make kids want to use Paramount+. You will never beat YouTube and Fortnite

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fortnite is fricking here to WRECK shop on kids entertainment now. They just added a competent cart racer, a Minecraft Lego mode that feels more fleshedout, and fricking Rockban made by the old devs. And the price to play all the game modes and the Battle Royal mode, F R E E. Your kid doesn't need to spend a god damn dime and can access all these modes.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder if just putting entire shows on youtube will be done more often

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      as much as it hurts to say this, when has WB ever given a shit about tom & jerry?

  69. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's been insane to witness in real time all the major American entertainment companies implode in on themselves

  70. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Depression
    Woah woah woah there pal. There are guns and tanks and bombs aiming right at you, so you better say "recession" next time, or else things might get a lil ugly.

  71. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Doesn't want the government regulating content on the internet
    >But the government regulating who can reproduce is totally fine

  72. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No the US is still growing, though growth has softened quite a bit since last year. But half the population thinks anything they government puts out must be a conspiracy and the fact non-government group can prove the numbers are correct must mean the conspiracy is far-reaching and global.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >though growth has softened quite a bit since last year
      So it's in decline.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is less growth but growth all the same

  73. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If I remember correctly, mergers like this are supposed to convince investors on giving the companies more funds to actually do stuff despite the high amount of debt. That's why stuff like BlackRock has such a massive grip on the western entertainment industry, large companies are currently run by people who're too dumb to make money own their own like their predecessors.

    Imagine how different the entertainment industry would be if it didn't rely on investors.

  74. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is anyoen else seeing a bunch fo deleted posts?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  75. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything good about our childhoods is fading away to dust then being inhaled by cancerous corporatism. Things like this make me feel that I don't wanna exist anymore

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good. It's not like they've been handling those properties well.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything good about your childhoods was ALREADY infected by corporatism

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        There was still a drawing room full of human beings back then.

  76. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >New CEO will be appointed. Zaslav gets his golden parachute. Plane explodes midair killing all the investors instantly.
    100% this.

  77. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daily Reminder:
    (YOU)
    CANNOT
    RUN
    FROM
    PROPAGANDA
    !
    >CAPTCHA: WAY84

  78. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    These mega corps keep piling up IPs like old dragons, and are just as lumbering and drunken in their stupor of greed. They don't understand that these IPs are worth nothing without new content. It doesn't matter how many times the hoard changes hands, it is worthless without proper stewardship. But hey, if Paramount does merge with WB, it will be a poison that will kill them faster.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      And then Disney will swoop right in, take the conjoined bloated corpse, hacksaw essentials like SpongeBob and DC off of it, and leave the rest to rot on the growing mound that is Disney+.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eventually the megatechs will step in and take over ownership of these media giants, if they can't fine a new path forward from theaters/cable/streaming. Apple, Microsoft, Amazon all have the vast incomes to feed content creation, but they also want to see a way forward that's profitable.
        But Warner-Discovery never made a lick of sense, and seemed to ride on the proposition that the DC movies were suddenly going to turn around into MCU-Too.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Very few of the mega techs have shown that level of interest in media. Bezos literally said Prime was basically a side gig to get you to buy more canned soup or whatever.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Amazon's main hustle is cloud storage now, secondary is online market, streaming is a side-hustle for them. They could easily pick up a distressed Warner Brothers/Discovery.
            It keeps going up for sale half-off, to the dismay of it's broken shareholders.

  79. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TMNT
    >Aeon Flux
    >Maxx
    >Mission Impossible
    >Star Trek
    >A Quiet Place
    >Top Gun
    >Sponge Bob
    >Miramax stuff like Spykids and The Crow
    >Halloween
    >Hasboro shit like Transformers and GI:Joe
    >Scream

    Oh boy. This would be interesting

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a bunch of stuff they're just waiting to bury under spongebob and teen titans go.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Paramount owns quite a bit of interesting things, not just in the realm of Cinemaphile. But I imagine IDW is panicking. I still don’t think that the two catalogues together rival Disney/Fox though

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Executives don't give a frick what you like. Tax write-offs and burials will happen.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, kids really give a shit about....A Quiet Place...?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I get that you think of everything in terms of children's entertainment since this is a comic and cartoon board, but it's quite an interesting merger when you compare what Paramount would bring to WB and vice-versa. It'd create a strong streaming line-up for both kids and adults.

        Executives don't give a frick what you like. Tax write-offs and burials will happen.

        Not every company operates that way, but yes, some stuff will be delayed, some cancelled, and some shelved; thankfully most modern cartoon and comic adaptations are garbage, so I'm not concerned. The back catalogue stuff is more interesting to me; y'know, the things that can't write off.

        Disney literally does not have spending money anymore. I mean maybe at one point they could have, but right now? Disney is a poor man pretending that he's rich.

        Disney just bought out the remainder of Hulu from Comcast.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Disney just bought out the remainder of Hulu from Comcast.

          Yes out of mandatory obligation. Disney did not want to fulfill that end of the contract. Ideally they would have happily maintained the old status quo, if you think Disney is happy about being forced contractually to spend those billions think again and they're not finished paying up. They still owe Comcast more billions. Disney is in a rather embarrassing situation right now. And that alone is not the only problem they got.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Disney just bought out the remainder of Hulu from Comcast.
          They have not. They made a "minimum" payment of $8.6 billion. The final amount is still under contention, with Comcast seeking more than 3 times that. This exceeds Disney's cash-on-hand by over 2x.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the back catalogue stuff is more interesting to me
          That's exactly what's getting written off. Enough of your laidback hype.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't write off things produced in the 80's, 90's, 00's anon. That's not how it works.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can however bury them. No looney tunes for you.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't care for looney tunes, so, I'm good.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                They don't care for anything you like that isn't gangbusters either.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You can however bury them. No looney tunes for you.
                Licensing alone is steady income.

  80. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people here, there, and in general are worried about Disney owning all of the things
    >Warner Bros slowly ripped itself apart and became a black hole so dense that not even moneyed names like AT&T and Discovery could escape its grasp

    All those awards, all that film history, and in the end, they decided to pull the old guard down with them.

  81. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    does anyone actually see this happening?
    i don't really see any positives to this deal besides
    more content=better value
    am I wrong? what am I missing here

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is happening because both studios are circling the drain (WBD is 50+ billions in the red, Paramount is selling everything not nailed down)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only positive is seeing all these huge merged companies crash and burn when they are finally all out of delay tactics. As some of you already said, in the current day the old formula of doing business is simply not working all the while streaming services are not profitable and from what I see will largely never be profitable since people are complaining about the whole Attack on Physical Media element.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, streaming services could be profitable if they made good content

  82. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paramount is looking for a buyer because they can't afford their upcoming dues. They've reached out to both Apple and Amazon, neither of which were interested.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Weird, you'd think those two would've liked getting bigger.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a bad deal. The company is overvalued and drowning in debt.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Apple is a tech company first. They're not going to take on Spongebob or The Loud House unless they can brazenly insert Apple products into each episode.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't a bunch of Nick shows have Pear-brand products?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Apple TV
          Have you heard of this service?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not a profit center for apple, and isn't trying to compete on content.

            >Wrong.

            The thing is, morons like him will never understand that Disney's and Microsoft's transactions were allowed to happen because each country's market regulators approved it to happen. Both companies also had to divest in specific areas just to gain approval. It's not at all like a video game where the protagonist can just offer up briefcases full of cold hard cash and expect every shareholder to approve.

            >It's not at all like a video game where the protagonist can just offer up briefcases full of cold hard cash and expect every shareholder to approve.
            Yeah, this would require at least 2 fetch quests and a goddam escort mission.

  83. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm really supreised how hard the studios have fallen after trying to start their own streaming services. Like, I would have expected this maybe in 2026 with just Paramount going under, but seeing WB turn into a black hole is fricking amazing.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mark my words, a decade from now the entertainment industry will experience a crash similar to the one the gaming industry experienced in 1983, and there'll be no Nintendo-like company to save them.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        With the speed we're going at!? Movies are so overbudgeted, and the only way to make a profit is to break the top 20-grossing movies of all time!

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, probably less than a decade, but ya know what I mean.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        what does entertainment look like then?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Westernised anime.

  84. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hail Zaslav

  85. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guess WBD has to offload all that debt somehow since the tax write-off scheme isn't working.

  86. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder what they would end up doing with Pluto. Having some CN dedicated channels on there would be awesome.

  87. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So Cartoon Nickelodeon, will it have decent shows?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, all you'll ever get is 12 hours of TTGO spam followed by 12 hours of SpongeBob spam
      EVERY SINGLE DAY

  88. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    someone add SpongeBob, Dora, and the Ninja Turtles to this billboard

  89. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Won’t happen

  90. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >paramont has all Star Trek, most Nicktoons, and Nickelodeon shows reaching back to the 80s
    >Zaslav will undoubtedly memory-hole everything but TNG, whatever the new Trek show is, Spongebob, and Rugrats

    Oh boy; can't wait to never see Eureeka's Castle or any DiC/Cookie Jar show ever again.
    Zaslav literally made a name for himself as a fricking content reaper. You're not going to recoup the subscriptions lost when he guts Paramount + to make Paramax or whatever.

  91. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >merge to make one super debt
    they can't be serious

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >WB buys Paramount
      >scrapes off all the IP they want
      >saddle Paramount with all the debt from both companies
      >Everyone claps when WB selflessly saved all of Paramount's classic movies when the obviously shitty Paramount goes bankrupt as a result

      This exact same bullshit is why Toys R Us and FAO Schwartz don't exist anymore.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your flotilla can't sink if you keep adding ships

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      In theory, mergers should combine revenue streams while removing redundancies that they could not eliminate alone. For example, they could now fire almost half the IT team on streaming, marketing, various administration positions, etc.
      In practice... well, WBD itself is the product of a merger. And AT&T/Warner before that, and AOL Time Warner before that. What's the common thread between all of these disasters? It's WB itself.
      I don't want to downplay the dumb decisions from Zazlav/Discovery, particularly delaying and pouring more money into the DCEU films, while undercutting them with premature project announcements that won't take shape for 3 years. But the fact is that the Discovery side of the business is what's propping up WB. They didn't fire enough people. They didn't root out the rot.
      WB is herpes, and Paramount is crabs. The audience is going to get crabs with herpes.

  92. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Disney should have bought WB so we can see this happen.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Disney literally does not have spending money anymore. I mean maybe at one point they could have, but right now? Disney is a poor man pretending that he's rich.

  93. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Positives:
    -The Ninja Turtles are added to DC (And get another actually good movie by James Gunn)
    -Multiversus gets a FRICKLOAD move characters

    Negatives
    -Everything else

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Has James Gunn ever tackled the TMNT?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Positives:
      >-The Ninja Turtles are added to DC (And get another actually good movie by James Gunn)
      >-Multiversus gets a FRICKLOAD move characters
      Fricking deluded....

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >positives: not gonna happen and who gives a frick

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Multiversus can get Nick characters in the game without needing WB and Paramount to merge. proof: TMNT was just added to Fortnite a week ago

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Multiversus can get Nick characters in the game without needing WB and Paramount to merge. proof: TMNT was just added to Fortnite a week ago

      Not only that, but I'm pretty sure one of the higher-ups at Paramount did say they'd be okay with Spongebob being in Multiversus.

  94. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    WE CAN FINALLY HAVE A REBOOT OF VIDEO COMICS!

    ?si=3Rv5bvThIe87r8Rm

  95. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Surprisingly, sounds like even investors are sick of movie studio consolidation. Might be the one thing that stops this from happening.

    https://deadline.com/2023/12/paramount-warner-bros-discovery-merger-talks-questions-1235679309/

    >When the opening bell rang on Wall Street, however, investors didn’t exactly give the idea of “Warnamount” a ringing endorsement. Shares of Paramount slipped 1% and WBD slid 4% in early trading. Paramount is 40% below its 52-week high, and WBD has lost more than half its value since the April 2022 close of the WarnerMedia-Discovery merger.

    >While the business has reckoned with more seismic deals in recent years, among them Disney-Fox and AT&T-Time Warner, this time the reality seems to be dawning that bigger is not always better. Streaming platforms swim in red ink and legacy media assets (mainly linear TV) are eroding. Yes, Zaslav has hinted at opportunities to be had, but WBD was not really considered a buyer given its oft-stated focus on reducing its enormous debt. It’s not clear how trying to swallow a company with hefty debt of its own solves any problems.

    >Citi media analyst Jason Bazinet told Deadline he sees little upside to the combination. Investors “watched CBS and Viacom merge,” he said. “They watched Disney and Fox merge. And they watched Discovery buy Scripps and [merge] with Warner Bros. Discovery. And none of those were the elixir that allowed you to generate huge amounts of cash flow.” A company message of “‘We have this great idea, we need to do more M&A,’” he said, won’t go over as well as it once did, “because you can’t draw a straight line between M&A and profitability in streaming.”

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm honestly surprised, a decade to go "hmm maybe this isn't good" is pretty dang quick

  96. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah this isn't going through. WBD has three things they need to focus on for the next few years: paying down their debt, expanding Max globally, and fixing Cartoon Network. They don't have time to get distracted by mergers. Paramount is 100% getting sold to someone in the next year, but it won't be to them

  97. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they don’t green light a Jimmy neutron and Dexter crossover why bother

  98. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >it's ok when Zaslav does it: the post

    Are you a bot? Are you mentally challenged or do you go around dropping non-sequitors to different posts because you're also socially challenged?

  99. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When all things are Disney, nothing will be.

  100. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I think Superman works best as a shared cultural heritage
    Why should it be ripped away from the Shuster family again?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Shuster Family should get like, one big, multimillion dollar payment right before Superman goes PD. Siegel and Shuster were definitely cheated, but the point of the Public Domain is that no one person should have control over something that becomes part of culture at large.They can not keep him forever.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one said they can or should get to keep it forever. WB can't keep it forever. Superman will enter the public domain in 10 years.

  101. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    WB is creating a monopoly from getting bought by everyone.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am TAKING that concept, and calling it bawd BASED MONOPOLIZATION.

  102. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Superman as he existed in Action Comics #1 will be public domain in 10 years.

  103. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried to think of a funny headline to summarize the whole situation. couldn't make it work lol.
    I read the news today and they just went for it lmao

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >media are shilling against it
      That’s how you need it’s gonna happen.

  104. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    o what happens now2

  105. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    We need the government to step in and do what they did to Ma Bell

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      which was?

  106. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"haha just kidding guys!"

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      huh

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a nothingburger

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