>As the potential merger between Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount Global continues to make headlines, whispers have emerged about Warner Bros.' plans for Paramount's iconic properties should the deal come to fruition. According to sources close to the company, Warner Bros. has developed several ambitious pitches that would see the studio reboot both the Star Trek and Transformers film franchises, breathing new life into these beloved sci-fi and action juggernauts.
>While Star Trek and Transformers are the primary targets for Warner Bros., the studio is also considering a fresh take on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TMNT) franchise. The animated TMNT: Mutant Mayhem film, produced by Nickelodeon and distributed by Paramount Pictures, has been a critical and commercial success, and Warner Bros. is reportedly eager to expand the Turtles' universe with a live-action film.
>However, sources indicate that the animated TMNT films will remain in the hands of Seth Rogen and his Point Grey production company, which has been instrumental in the franchise's revival. Warner Bros. is reportedly content with the current arrangement, allowing Rogen and Point Grey to continue their successful run with the Turtles while exploring new avenues for Star Trek and Transformers.
>The proposed reboots of Star Trek and Transformers reflect Chairman David Zaslav's vision for Warner Bros. as a major player in the science fiction and action genres. Zaslav reportedly sees these two franchises as having the potential to rival the Star Wars franchise, which has been a cornerstone of the Disney empire since its acquisition of Lucasfilm in 2012.
>While Dune might appear to be Warner Bros.' answer to Star Wars, the film rights are owned by Legendary Pictures, and Warner Bros.' involvement is largely limited to distribution and partial financing. The proposed Star Trek and Transformers reboots, on the other hand, would give Warner Bros. full control over these franchises, enabling the studio to craft a cohesive and expansive cinematic universe.
>The proposed Paramount merger has yet to receive final approval, but the potential for Warner Bros. to revive these iconic franchises is undoubtedly tantalizing. Fans of Star Trek, Transformers, and TMNT have long been clamoring for new adventures, and Warner Bros.' ambitious plans could finally bring these beloved characters back to the forefront of popular culture.
>Fans of Star Trek, Transformers, and TMNT have long been clamoring for new adventures
what
MAKE TREK FEMALE AND BLACK
Paramount and Alex Kurtzman already took care of that.
It cannot get worse, it can only be better.
>It cannot get worse
YO DIS BE DA CAPTAINS LOG OF DA USS ZESTY WE BE LOOKING FOR INTELLIGENT LIFE N SHIEEET
The two of the currently running Star Trek shows have black lesbian leads. Anson Mount is surrounded by gay women in Strange New Worlds. There are trans characters in Discovery who give lectures on pronouns. They’re making a movie about Michelle Yeoh going on killing sprees in Section 31 and it’s directed by a black man.
Paramount is the most pozzed company in Hollywood. There’s no contest.
Here's your president of Earth, bro
They literally already did.
TRANS TREK
It's hollow corpo-speak.
>The proposed reboots of Star Trek and Transformers reflect Chairman David Zaslav's vision for Warner Bros
FRICK YES DADDY ZASLAV I WORSHIP YOUR CORPORATE DICK THIS CHRISTMAS EVE PLEASE GIVE US REAL STAR TREK BACK
Dune might appear to be Warner Bros.' answer to Star Wars,
What in the frick is this even supposed to mean?
>having the potential to rival the Star Wars franchise
Given the dumpster fire that is Star Wars right now, I don't think rivalling them is the best idea.
Too late.
Rocksteady is dead and so is my dream of TMNT game made by them.
No
>sources indicate that the animated TMNT films will remain in the hands of Seth Rogen and his Point Grey production company, which has been instrumental in the franchise's revival
Seth was a competent business israelite all along?
Damn, I actually respect him a bit more now
Hebraic subtlety of finance. Is why April is a hindoo instead of a busty red head. You. Can't. Take. That. Away. From. Me.
>70m budget (x 2.5)
>180m gross
So it made about 5 million.
I wouldn't call this a major success.
the toys sales is what really matters for tmnt, and mutant mayhem sold a lot of toys
Even worse because the budget doesn't include marketing.
films tend to make money AFTER theatrical release, you know. there are streaming, cable, dvds, blu-rays etc.
shareholders don't like to wait years for those returns
nobody gives a frick about shareholders
that money is easily hidden, that's why there's such a big focus on box office, because its independently verifiable.
Oh boy! Consolidated media!
kek, this why should anyone care, personally I hope all executives and politicians involved in this merger and all other corporate mergers die painfully of a leaking butthole. Literally who gives a frick about this.
REBOOT AGAIN
Who cares? All these studios are run by the same israelites anyways, migh as well make it official and merge all of them together it's not like it would make a difference.
I didn't mean to reply.
why can no one in Hollywood come up with something new?
Be the change you wanna be
The biggest irony of this post is South Park itself hasn’t been original or funny in a decade. It coasts off mocking the politics and social climate but it’s firmly in zombie Simpsons mode now.
There's a simple answer to this. From 2010 to 2015 the market went global. Multiple events happened such as China expanding the number of international films they will accept in a year from 10 to 34.
At the same time streaming was just starting to pick up steam. They started making what we would have called 'mid-budget' films of the past.
Add these together and you have an industry that isn’t interested in making good, challenging films. Instead of that they want simple stories with a focus on action and visuals. Punches are a universal language after all. Budgets went up again with the transition to IMAX where possible.
So picture this: Hollywood needs to make something visually stunning, but easily dumbed down. Something pretty and with action, but that you don't really need to pay attention to the plot to understand. Because Hollywood doesn't ultimately know why any project worked or didn't work most new projects are a risk. They can't just get Julia and Mel or ScarJo and Bradley. These names mean nothing, because they aren't who matters. Black Widow is the star, not the actress inside her catsuit and wig.
Accepting the era of the movie star as over the studios started looking at their older IP and making legacy sequels. After all, they can put on the balance sheets that the original sold X number of tickets, which suggests that there is a ‘built in’ audience who is asking for more.
That’s why nothing is new and everything is built as half a story with the promise of a badass sequel.
There's another component to this too, but this is already way too long.
>These names mean nothing, because they aren't who matters. Black Widow is the star, not the actress inside her catsuit and wig.
This was noted by Anthony Mackie several years ago now.
He even shittalked RT and so on in the process.
He wasn't the first to say it either, but his is without a doubt the best description of the problem.
thought this after i posted it. china (the largest of global markets) want unchallening "goyslop" and thus that is what we get because that's where the cash is. we can't have films that go against the narrative anymore because it's literally illegal in most of the places it's being sold to (and those places increasingly are in the west).
i'll add that it doesn't even need to be illegal in the west, only to go against current sensibilities that the people making the film may never have intended to be antagonistic towards, and in europe especially it will be cut and boycotted to shit over some intersectional justification no one knew about 12 months prior. so all we get is cgi capeshit or gaywars or a known story from ebin nostalgia retold in a safe way.
>Black Widow is the star, not the actress inside her catsuit and wig
Disagree. Disney may have assumed this, but they're finding out the hard way that it isn't true. Iron Heart ain't pulling in Iron Man numbers, none of these "next gen" replacements are as popular as the original stars. And they never will be.
Mackie's a perfect example of this. He's got the title of Captain America now, so he should be just as popular as Chris Evans. But he's not.
>They can't just get Julia and Mel or ScarJo and Bradley. These names mean nothing, because they aren't who matters. Black Widow is the star, not the actress inside her catsuit and wig.
I also blame the me-too era in part for the demise of the movie star. You don't want to invest 150 million on the strength of 1 person's popularity that could vanish overnight when they get metoo'd or cancelled for having a hot take on something they post online.
In the 1980s and 90s you could cover that shit up and it wouldn't affect the investment.
China alone has 400 million more people than US/EU combined. Same thing with India. Africa has 200 million more people than US/EU combined.
Studios have been trying to expand their audience by tapping into the third world market which is fricking enormous, and to do that they need simple storylines
but THEY DONT HAVE ANY MONEY
THEY CANNOT GIVE YOU MONEY
The trouble is that corpos think "oh but in twenty years time they're gonna be rich as frick and if we get there first we're going to be their favourite thing when they're rich"
china is about an equal tradeoff between gross and yield. india and africa are rightfully considered worthless.
Inspiring arts and film is the last thing on the mind of these demon pedoisraelites. Unironically, film being used as an art form is literally illegal and has been for like a decade. TBQH the gov link for Smith-Mundt should be an eternal sticky on the top of Cinemaphile.
Can Warner even make Star Trek worse than it currently is?
It can if they hard reboot the IP, imagine WB throwing 60 years of Trek content down the toilet for a clean slate
>Sun
If they buy it just you watch
>WB is going to go bankrupt bros (even doe barbie and the harry potter videogame alone made more profit than Disney's last two fiscal years combined lol)
>now they're buying stuff
Mousesisters how do we cope our way out of this one?
This merger will bleed WB dry and their reboot attempts won't happen
are you an shareholder or something? How can you write something like that and expect people not to call you a moronic shill?
paramount lost a billion on the simon and shuster sale because of anti trust delays. they cant afford to wait for a deal with WB and they wont make the mistake again
So, should we expect a deal by new years eve? Paramount is about to kick out a lot of people by january anyway
its impossible to say because redstone is too sentimental and wants too much money. she wouldnt sell BET even though perry offered a fair price and no one else wanted it. she wants $30/share for paramount (its at 15 now)
Hollywood is kill.
Frasierchads, we stay winning
merge them, trekformers. it would be better than anything they're going to do with either
HOW ABOUT MAKING NEW FRANCHISES INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY REHASHING AND REBOOTING THE SAME ONES
Nobody fricking turns up for "new franchises" anymore. You Black folk always say you want that but you never keep your eyes peeled for new stuff, you let it pass you by and then it withers without any support.
That's because every "new" thing is just Black folk and globohomosexual shit.
Frick off
Prove me wrong.
queef harder
We stopped watching your homoglobo slop; that's us fricknig off.
He's right though.
>n-no you can't just point out that hollywood is flooded with diversity hires and blatant globohomosexual propaganda!
They hated anon because he told the truth
i'd turn up for new stuff that was just one original film, maybe two. franchises are shit. reboots of previous stuff made into a "universe" are worse still.
>i'd turn up for new stuff that was just one original film
You're either lying or you're way the frick in the minority.
Then why does it matter whether or not it's a sequel/remake?
>You're either lying or you're way the frick in the minority.
think about something like terminator 1 and 2 (forget the rest for a minute), those were two films that were simultaneously great and also at the time introduced new stories and concepts to a wider audience so much so that 30 years later the go-to reference for people thinking about ai is terminators.
that's what people want from films, not capeshit rebooted yet again with the same stories over and over but casted by whatever the present progressive zeitgeist is.
nobody turns up for 6-12 episodes every 13-24 months because thats gay and moronic.
people would absolutely tune in for 26 eps a year but they forgot how to do that if its not a procedural crime drama
>Nobody fricking turns up for "new franchises" anymore.
the two biggest movies of this year was Barbie and Oppenheimer, new IPs. Meanwhile rehashed capeshit has done poorly
Barbie had a genius marketing campaign behind it along with audience curiosity. The studio spent a small fortune on the rights and just a couple of years before were about to greenlight Amy 'my pussy smells so bad you guys lol' Schumer for it.
On the other hand I'm starting to wonder if Nolan's films are being seen as an IP on their own.
barbie is over 60 years old
nuke hoax is almost 80 years old
Barbie isn't a new IP you fricking moron.
Close the tab
suck my dick.
See -
This guy gets it. You have no clothes here, Emperor.
avatar is the first and second highest grossing movie of all time
Sounds like the kind of cope a corpo shill would make. Most if not all the rehashed shit this year (Transmorphers, capeshit) has turned out shit numbets and yet you wanna make more of the same fricking thing?
They should go kys by trying to dive in their pool of money, if it isn't empty by now (maybe that's what those tax write-offs were for).
>can't survive on their own
good
>the transformers reboot was so bad they're immediately rebooting it again
My sides. Not even fricking transformers fans liked it.
They had Black folk in it, I simply do not want to suffer through 2 hours of Black folk, Optimus Prime or not
Aren’t they releasing a new transformers movie in 2024?
Who gives a flying frick. No Bay no buy. Plus, we’re just gonna get hideous ugly hatian mongrel beasts again as the cast instead of gorgeous bombshells like the originals. Won’t be watching.
It's a cartoon not a live action movie
I sleep…
who is the moron who keeps paying real actors for voice work? that shit worked once for aladdin and has been a waste of budget ever since
just give tara strong and billy west could do the same job for $50k and a case of beer
israelites laundering money to pay for child meat and blood to eat, etc.
It came out this year. There's a reason you didn't notice it.
No, no, I mean “tranformers one” which is apparently slated for 2024, I know rise of the beasts came out months ago
There is a animated film coming
i am caucasian, they clearly didn't want my fandom and money. it was made by mutts and Black folk for mutts and Black folk
t. saw the trailers
>You know all that stuff that no one likes anymore? Let's just make it again!!!!
Bravo; Hollywood
Frick yes
, sources indicate that the animated TMNT films will remain in the hands of Seth Rogen
Frick this, they were literally raping the franchise with the latest movie.
dammit. i wanted seth mcfarlane to buy star trek
More Orville?
Palicki said in an interview that the show takes forever to make, stemming from how long it takes McFarlane to write the outlines for everything. There were also problems arising from those delays, such as side characters needing money to live off of and not being able to wait for lord Todd to bring the sacred tablets.
Maybe he still can with his Baskin Robbins trust fund money.
Wtf does that mean? What is this meme? I don't get it
Yay
this is what happens when you consistently spend 100 million dollars on a movie and think itll make 2 billion at the box office
10 million should be the MAX budget on all movies going forward
>100 millon
You are way low.
how are the studios going to hide their profits with 10m budgets?
REBOOT, REBOOT, DO IT AGAIN, SEQUEL, PREQUEL, ADD BLACK WOMAN
>REBOOT, REBOOT, DO IT AGAIN, SEQUEL, PREQUEL, ADD BLACK WOMAN
REBOOT, REBOOT, DO IT AGAIN, SEQUEL, PREQUEL, ADD BLACK WOMAN
>REBOOT, REBOOT, DO IT AGAIN, SEQUEL, PREQUEL, ADD BLACK WOMAN
Zaslav is literally the least pozzed Hollywood exec.
test
They'll keep making it and I'll keep not watching it and feeling superior about it.
Not going to matter if they keep putting out woke trash dogshit.
What? Why would they reboot Star Trek? Is nuTrek not very popular or something? But the trannies in /trek/ said it was!
They need to "unboot" it. Bring back the whole aesthetic of 90's Star Trek (like Lower Decks), and pretty much leave all of that miserable dark Paramount+ shit as questionably non-canon.
No, WB needs to reboot the whole universe. Take what worked, destroy what didn't. Start with a new generation, a new Captain Kirk.
No one wants that. They want to know that the stuff they liked is all still there, and hasn't been horribly mangled. They want to know the Borg kid from Voyager didn't have his eye torn out in a back alley clinic, and Picard isn't some kind of fricking moron with a shitbull, doddering around the galaxy and getting told to shut up for being a disgusting old man every two seconds.
All you need to do is have a cameo from Miles O'Brien or whatever every now and again, and otherwise focus on a new crew.
Unironically, Lower Decks mostly gets this right. It's just a shame that's an otherwise unfunny comedy show.
So, why is rebooting Trek and Transformers bad?
because it's been done? tell something new.
imagine if books were this way.
What? Trek got a seoft reboot and they ignored it after Beyond flopped, never got a hard reboot. Transformers never got a reboot either, the new films are prequels, officially anyway. TF actually needs a reboot.
no it doesn't. just think of some new stuff that isn't based on childrens cartoons from the last century ffs.
We get new stuff and you fools never pay money for it. Why does nee stuff flop so bad? Why did The Creator flop? It was awesome and something new
i explained this here
creator flopped because the producers made demands that forced bad casting and writing choices.
The Creator was an average movie at best. It places interesting concepts in the world and then treats them as background, never truly engaging with them. The twists are predictable, Denzel's kid can't act, and people don't act in consistent ways. The border guards opening fire on the truck while it is in line for example. There are also conceptual problems too. Look at Alfie's technological shutdown power. Her uses of it look like prayer as seen by a Christian, which the movie establishes Alfie is not. Or the fact that all of Asia can be equated to rice paddies and little climbing monkeys.
Totally agree.
The writing of characters make no sense.
Like the woman scientist feeling so motherly that she design the robot kud as a weapon, wtf?
And the cause of the nuke attack: "it's not cauz of the robots, just human mistake. Trust me bro!"
Because, under Warner Bros, it'll either be jaw-droppingly awful or it'll be a tax write-off.
Because a broke studio has to borrow money to make films, and the conventional banks have DEI initiatives. Rebooting under those circumstances means updating for modern sensibilities first and foremost.
Look at the new Percy Jackson series for example. They race swapped the best friend to Indian, they race swapped the teacher from white Brit to black probably Brit. They race swapped the love interests both from white to black. They race swapped the male rival from white to Chinese. And they took the abusive step-father and reduced him into just kind of a dick.
With Percy Jackson it was the book creator choice to make those changes, he said it so
Which is exactly what he would say if Disney is the least bit smart about it. Of course the original author is on board. Of course this is his vision.
entire thread clowned by the OP writing fanfic
FRICKING YES
Save us Zaslav!
IF YOU SEE DA PO-LICE
WARN A BROTHA
WHOOP WHOOP THATS THE SOUND OF THE TERRAIN
>live action turtles
okay i approve of the merger
Surely we’ll get a white April this time, right?
*waits patiently for the star trek and transformers open world adventure games*
On that note, are there any good trek games?
FTL is kinda reddit but I liked it. It’s hard if you play on hard mode. I hate Star Trek so make of this post what you will.
Starfleet Academy
The 90's adventure games, where they got the full original voice cast.
The FMV Borg game is also pretty neat for what it is, and I can appreciate the absurdity of the Voyager light gun shooter.
You can also play the TNG pinball table in Pinball FX, which is pretty sick.
>im gonna reeeboooooooooot
Won’t be watching.
No mention of South Park? Warner spent $500 million dollars to stream 20 something seasons of South Park. Fricking Paramount spent almost a billion for what is essentially 2 seasons. Just think about this moronation for a second. Some sitcom like Friends, The Office or Big Bang, understandable, but out of the general demographic of people who pay for streaming services, how big of a draw is fricking South Park? And even though paramount would get $500 million, I guess they would treay it like yellowstone, since they cant stream their show, theyd make some spin off shit. But $900 million dollars, for 22 hours of South Park, it's fricking insane. People can b***h about budgets of modern blockbusters and what not, but this whole situation is, imo, one of the stupidest fricking things in all this streaming nonsense.
South park sucks
>David Zaslav's vision for Warner Bros. as a major player in the science fiction and action genres.
hope it happens, he's the best choice out of a really bad bunch for star trek & transformers
God I hope they fire Kurtzman. Maybe Warner can save Star Trek.
>Captain Optimus Prime: CUBOTROOOOOOOOON!
I wonder how much passive income these studios get ?
Like if they just stopped making anything how much do they bring in?
9 dolars
Please god make it stop.
consolidation always precedes collapse. two failing studios linking up just means a bigger fall.
It’s Christmas Eve. Close the tab
Kino
Both of these companies abused their franchises by ignoring fan feedback and oversaturating the market with expensive, low-quality garbage. What could they possibly expect to gain from a merger? This is like two raying alcoholics getting married and expecting everything to fix itself.
> What could they possibly expect to gain from a merger?
so remember how for a while ESG money was all they really needed? that hasn't really changed, but the interest rates going up screws the plan of leveraging expenses, so they need to find more ways to game the books, and that's easier the larger you are.
Good?
I want my Sonic kino next year without warnerBlack folk being involved, then Paramount can frick off for all I care.