It turns out that only making woke tv shows and movies about gays and blacks is bad for business:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/rearranging-deck-chairs-on-the-titanic-analysts-have-questions-and-doubts-after-paramount-ceo-bakishs-ouster-0b4e2488
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-global-sale-ceo-strategy-1235852363/
https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/messages/171452265632593f80d96d185/raw
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You know WB and Paramount are different companies right?
Are you illiterate? Nothing in the OP makes it seem like OP thinks they're the same company.
Warner Brothers isn't in any of the links or the image. Where they are in the streaming business is much different than where Paramount is. Very different situations. Not sure why the OP thinks they are both in rough waters
The third link is about WB, dumbfrick. Their stock price cratered in the past 24 hours.
Warner Bros Discovery is not Warner Bros moron. It’s a seperate company.
Nice save
You are being disingenuous making people think it’s the main television and film warner bros that is in the shit. Warner Bros Discovering has been haemorrhaging money for years, it owns a lot of media companies in my country and over half of the staff have been laid off in the last month or so. They tried to save the company about two years ago by merging it with paramount who was also in the shit.
>Warner Bros Discovery is not Warner Bros moron. It’s a seperate company.
moron detected.
You know I am referring to the main WB television and film company.
What the frick are you talking about? WB/Discovery/CNN/Turner/HBO are all one giant conglomerate. Do you not understand how corporate conglomerates work?
My guess is he is American, most of us Americans refuse to accept that a few megacorps won every other corporation. Then again if you dare question why a corporation could steal from you and get less than a slap on the wrist while you get your life just cucked due to citizens united.
>MUH CITIZENS UNITED
lol what
Thanks for proving my point corpo-cuck.
You didn't make a point. You posted an unhinged rant about Americans not understanding corporate conglomerates (even though we actually do) then added a non sequitur about Citizens United, a Supreme Court case which accurately concluded that groups of citizens, however organized, have the same free speech rights as individual citizens pursuant to the First Amendment.
Typical foreigner moronation.
concession accepted
>Warner Bros Discovery is not Warner Bros moron
Umm... yes it is.
>HBO collapsing thanks to incompetence amongst managers and excessive propaganda making people tune out
>Chernobyl, a miniseries about incompetence amongst managers and excessive propaganda making people tune out, was their last good series
It's like poetry, it rhymes
>Chernobyl
Woke as frick.
>replaces an entire group of men with a single c**ty female
10 years ago I wouldn't mind gays or blacks in media. But they have been shoehorned into every piece of media it made me more racist. I just got tired of it.
The only thing I want to know is if the stock is ripe for short sells in the immediate future.
These companies (and Disney too) actually think that people will keep paying over and over and over for eternity to watch Keaton Batman and Shatner Star Trek and Walt Disney Pinocchio, etc., without putting out any good new content.
Amazingly moronic. You can't make a profit solely on ancient content.
None of this has anything to do with HBO. Paramount has been dying a slow agonising death for a while though.
The third link is about WB collapsing from a WB source, CNN. How much is WB paying you to lie on the Internet?
the third link is not about WB collapsing nor is it about Warner making woke shows, it is entirely about them not securing NBA rights, you people are so fricking stupid
Good, GOOD!
>It turns out that only making woke tv shows and movies about gays and blacks is bad for business:
Paramount made Yellowstone though
>Paramount made Yellowstone though
Burger King has the Rodeo Burger but the rest of their menu is shit. I just don’t understand these studios that find success with a movie or series and then choose to churn out more of the shows that nobody is watching.
This thread would’ve worked better if you’d focused on a single company
Paramount (aka ViacomCBS) is actually quite an interesting story - for a long time Summer Redstone (Rothstein) had run a huge media empire and implied heavily that it would be passed to high daughter (Shari Redstone)
This daughter, Shari Redstone, began to feud with Summer and in 2006 the feud became quite public and eventually she, allegedly, had him declared mentally incompetent
Now, probably he actually was - he seemed unable to speak clearly since 2016 - but the two factions in the company became the daughter vs. Summer Redstone’s preferred* corporate successor - Philippe Dauman (the son of a Holocaust survivor) who got in by gaining support from the board and a fairly mentally frail Summer
Once Summer died, this feud was fairly major business and eventually Shari did succeed in taking back the company and has ruled Paramount with an iron fist ever since
The family could have a tv show made about them, Shari also married and divorced a young Rabbi while this whole corporate battle was ongoing
>People claim Paramount was destroyed by woke.
>It was literally a right wing inbred nobility medieval inheritance scandal.
Typical.
>israeli infighting
>right wing
>Inheritance crisis between noble class.
>Right wing
Yes.
If you make ‘right wing’ broad enough, anything that exists will be ‘right wing’
Nobody here would consider the family to be ‘right’ and they themselves would not consider themselves to be - only by following a fairly unorthodox definition would (You) be able to define them that way and I think you use that particular definition because you have an axe to grind with ‘chuds ‘ and want to tie a declining company & controversial family to your ‘enemy’ group
You’ll never, despite affirmations, be a real woman
>If you make ‘right wing’ broad enough, anything that exists will be ‘right wing’
They already have. Anything outside of absolutely loyalty to the israeli masters is "right."
oy vey
>This thread would’ve worked better if you’d focused on a single company
It's not about a single company. It's about entertainment media companies failing miserably because they are unable or unwilling to produce tv shows and movies that people actually want to pay for and watch. It is a sector-wide issue, dumbass.
Paramount made Top Gun, Yellowstone + spinoffs, The Tomorrow War, Sleeping Dogs, Land of Bad, the Mission Impossible movies and distribute Arthur The King, they have made some of the least woke movies in the last 5 years, you're moronic as shit + the WB thing has nothing to do with their woke shows but rather NBA rights
>Shari Redstone
couldn't be an Americanization of Rothstein, could it?
Weren't HBO trying to change their streaming platform to max? Or did one of the executives have a brain
no that never happened
warner and discovery merged and when they did they created MAX. hbo is owned by warner and became a tab/section of MAX. its still HBO
Are there any major Hollywood studios that aren't doing badly right now?
Born in 1998. Who the frick cares. There's a ton of stuff from the backlog from the 70s, 80s, 90's and 00s that I missed out on that I'm enjoying.
It says a lot when even Jerry Seinfeld is commenting that modern comedy is dead. That's what happens when wokeness infects everything. Let these companies frick themselves over.
I was born in 1981. I've already seen every single decent-or-better tv show and movie. It sucks that no more good stuff is being made or will ever be made because of leftists and israeli nepotism.
There's still stuff that you haven't discovered millenial anon. Plex, Tubi, Pluto and other services have shown me so much. I saw Benson, MacGyver, and Airwolf. Not to mention movies like Prince of the City, The Spanish Prisoner, Strange Brew, and Quick Change.
I'm watching stuff from other countries too. I never liked anime and despise weabooism but Japan makes some comfy shows. I just watched Super Sentai like Dairanger, Ohranger, and Carranger (I knew Power Rangers was based on a Japanese show but I had no idea they just cut & paste footage) and Kamen Rider (555, Agito) as well as Ultraman (original 60s series).
Oh you sweet summer child. I'd watched every single episode of Airwolf before you even born. I knew who Jerry Seinfeld was from Benson before Seinfeld the tv show even existed. You have no idea what it was like to be a child of the 1980s and 1990s.
I stand by my sad statement that I've seen everything that is at least decent.
Well props to you my elder for having the most based childhood. I wish I was born in 1974 so I can actually enjoy 1980 to 1989 from age 6 (when you usually can remember stuff clearly) to age 15. Then I can experience the 90's at age 16 to 25 when the new millenium begins.
I loved my early childhood like coming home after school and watching Toonami to see Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin and playing Star Wars games like Knights of the Old Republic. But yeah, looking at the stuff you guys grew up with, I really envy you.
I also finished The OC (it ended when I was 9) and One Tree Hill. Both very comfy shows; I wasn't into them since I was a bit too young to watch it, but man, they really encapsulate the 2000's very well. Also got into Supernatural (yeah I heard don't watch after Season 5) and so far I fricking love a roadshow about 2 brothers fighting monsters across the US.
This is from The Hobbit adventure game I had on the ZX Spectrum (released 1982)
And yes, this was genuinely exciting for me to get and play at the time.
I saw Big a couple years ago and the opening scene where the kid has to play a game like this (but at least it had computer graphics) makes me understand that 80's kid had to fill-in-the-blanks with their imagination.
The Hobbit did have simple line drawn graphics in some areas. I can remember every single one of them quite clearly.
There's also another movie with a kid trying to beat the great evil wizard in his ice mountain lair (or was it an ice giant?) to save the princess in a text adventure game as the introduction
I believe it's a real video game, don't recall what it was though.
Oh my misguided zoomer friend. If you think that well known Seinfeld fact makes you part of an elite club you are clearly too young to be in, then I don't know what to tell you. I suggest you hang out in communities dedicated to late 70's and early 80's tv shows and movies if you want to improve your larp. Then you can learn some real obscure trivia like how John Ritter almost rejected Three's a Company because he was trying to be an astronaut.
>John Ritter almost rejected Three's a Company
I watched the sequel series, Three's a Crowd. So disappointing.
But you didn't know he was trying to be an astronaut though. That's why I am calling you out on being a larper zoomie.
No I didn't. I barely know anything about Ritter besides the fact he was the dad on 8 Simple Rules until his premature death.
It wasn't until I went on Cinemaphile to see Three's Company, Problem Child, and other stuff he was in.
>No I didn't.
That's why I gave you those suggestions to improve your larp zoomie.
I am a zoomie. I'm the 1998 anon. I only saw Three's a Crowd because after watching Three's Company, I found out there was a sequel. I also didn't know that Three's Company was based on a British show until I wiki'd it.
There's a ton of shit I didn't see because I was born yet or too young to appreciate. I think you're mistaking me for the guy who says he was born in 1981. That's an early millenial btw.
That zoomie should larp better because 1981 could also be considered gen x. 1982 and onward is the better date to suggest.
You ever watch Mork and Mindy or
The Greatest American Hero? Try those if you haven't.
>You ever watch Mork and Mindy
No but I heard of it because I love Robin Williams.
>The Greatest American Hero?
Heard of it on Cinemaphile but never saw it
Thanks anon
I've been into boomer shooters lately, here's a few: Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun, HROT, DUSK, CULTIC, Prodeus
Other random things I recently played and enjoyed: Inscryption, The Forgotten City, Outer Wilds, Signalis, The Last Faith, Trepang2, Lunacid, SPRAWL, The Messenger, My Friend Pedro, Buckshot Roulette
I'm a millennial, tard. All I said was that I've already watched all decent tv shows and movies. And I have. You want me to go watch shitty forgotten stuff. No thanks. You can watch Joanie Loves Chachi till the cows come home. I prefer to watch Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan for the 200th time.
I'm still wonder why the cancelled iCarly, the only profitable Paramount+ show.
Dan Schneider controversy probably.
Yeah, I was thinking the same.
Oh no. Anyway.
But really, Hollywood is fricking dead, let's be real. The strikes from last year were perfectly timed to kill what was left of the industry. Jack shit is coming out in 2024 and 2025. Creative bankruptcy, lack of competence and overuse of reboots/sequels can only work so long.
Not to mention anime and other Japanese entertainment is starting to make serious inroads from zoomers and late millenials who grew up watching and enjoying that stuff.
That too, plus indie games and retro games are doing better than ever. And of course Youtube alone provides more value than whatever boring Hollyslop comes out nowadays.
I hate how US localizers are trying to hijack and modify Japanese games for DEI standards. The Japanese should tell the localizers to frick off or they'll pull the contract.
Yeah I fricking love emulators and roms. Nintendo, SNES, Genesis, N64, Saturn, and original Playstation have so many based games. Same for PC.
Any indie games to recommend?
>Youtube
I don't watch cable anymore. I just use the TV to hook up my laptop to watch Youtube and anything else I can stream. So many great documentaries I've been watching since the lockdown years ago.
Japs don't need any prodding for DEI-shit. They voluntarily put blacks and trannies in their media long before Fink codified it.
Yeah they do, but it doesn't seem as obnoxiously forced. When Japan does it, they just put it in because it seems trendy and they don't try to actively export it to other countries like the US tries to shove wokeness in its media. Though now it's backfiring because certain countries like the PRC and Islamic ones aren't keen on that.
Most Japanese execs don't monitor what the overseas distribution does because they're more concerned with in-house control. They've been wising up the last couple of years thanks to the Internet and Japanese commenting on the insanity and blatant disrespect Western localizers have been doing to the source material.
There was even a survey that had more than half of the Japanese respondents say that they don't want Hollywood to adapt anime after disasters like DB Evolution.
No specific type of genre. I'm up for anything whether survival horror, sports, first-person shooter, adventure RPG, etc.
>I hate how US localizers are trying to hijack and modify Japanese games for DEI standards. The Japanese should tell the localizers to frick off or they'll pull the contract.
This has been going on for 10-20+ years, people are only catching on now. Better late than never I suppose.
>Any indie games to recommend?
Well any specific genres? Or any examples of other indie games you liked, since there's a bit too big of a range out there to possible recommend.
This isn't really about wokeness. Warner Bros. got fricked because ATT bought them for something like $70B a decade ago. Then when they realized it wasn't working out a few years later they took out a $70B loan in WB's name and then spun them off into an independent company again. Now they have to repay all of that debt.
Paramount is fricked because 80% of their money comes from cable subscriptions, which are in terminal decline.
>they took out a $70B loan in WB's name
Is this legal? You can just buy a company, max their credit, and then dump them off?
Who’s going to arrest them?
>You can just buy a company, max their credit, and then dump them off?
Anon discovers unsecured debt and the lack of personal guarantees in israelite bank loans to israelite companies.
quick make 50 more star trek shows and pretend that anyone's watching them
I watched several of them.
Ironically, it appears Warner bros discovery’s stock is tanking precisely BECAUSE they are about to lose the rights to broadcast the basketball-American sport: basketball.
Live sports is literally the only thing that is still getting viewers.
lmao nobody gives a frick about the NBA
Someone mentioned that viewership is going down for the NBA and that's why there has been a huge push by the media to put more focus on people like Caitlin Clark to try and get people to watch the WNBA.
I still have no interest in either.
>Someone mentioned
thats the most moronic thing ive ever heard and you might be even more moronic for parroting it. its just like anything else. if its a shitty product nobody will buy it. there are no more fundamentals in the NBA.
>a huge push by the media to put more focus on people like Caitlin Clark to try and get people to watch the WNBA
today, i will remind them
NBA is awful as a product, the flopping and fouling shit is indescribably bad I genuinely don’t know how people watch this shit. The NFL manages to stay entertaining somehow, baseball I can’t tell if it’s dying or reviving the stories are all over the place, NHL has always been fun but is the little brother eternally, but damn basketball is putrid. Feels like a different sport from the Jordan era.
the thing with baseball is.. the less you know about the sport the more boring you will find it. people who havnt played or understand the game cant keep up with what is actually happening. its not just a game between a pitcher and a hitter
Yeah, what I’ve read those is it’s gotten a bump from zoomers due to cool plays on tik tok, plus ohtani is a lightning rod for viewership. It’ll never be NFL but it’s in a better spot than it was maybe 5 years ago.
eh they changed the rules to speed the game up for the zoomers attention spam kek
pitchers are on a 15/20 second pitch timer and batters have to be in the box within 8 seconds. catchers can also communicate with pitchers wirelessly
>pitchers can’t grab their balls, adjust the hat, and edge on the mound for 5 minutes and might have to be slightly fitter than Bartolo or Sabathias mass combined
Unironically ok with those changes plus the bag size leading to more steals. There’s still too many games for most people to care, plus the velo increase means pitchers are hurt all the time. Unironically think the product would be higher grossing long term with less games and better marketing, but then it wouldn’t be baseball. If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.
i agree with shorter season. its kind of absurd. they biggest problem with MLB is the lack of salary cap. teams with 200+ million payroll against teams with sub 30m payroll makes for a non-competitive league
Entire mediums dying isn't unprecedented
What's your favorite radio drama?
What's your favorite pulp novel?
Television and film are at their end. It's only jarring because they've been around your whole life.
they dont HAVE to die though, theyre just rehashing and retuning the same IPs over and over and over because of their fear of new ideas over “tried and true” franchises. Hell you could make a lot of the older content relevant given a new vision and a studio thats willing to take a chance without blatant dei pandering
>Hell you could make a lot of the older content relevant given a new vision and a studio thats willing to take a chance without blatant dei pandering
Say what you want, but covid lockdowns and Netflix productions really put a damper on the old Hollywood model. I admit, we're spoiled as frick because we can marathon an entire show on a weekend instead of watching it weekly.
My library actually has The Rocketeer comic. It's so fricking fun and it's a shame it doesn't have more stories.
Jennifer Connelly was at her peak hotness in that movie. Billy Campbell was a lucky frick to have had her for several years.
used that as an example obviously but studios would rather just want “rocketeer but a woman” instead of “rocketeer but decades in the future” or something
-yeah she was great but no way you would get a beautiful brunette again if that comic ever got another film reboot
>-yeah she was great but no way you would get a beautiful brunette again if that comic ever got another film reboot
I was 6 years old when I saw The Rocketeer on the Sci-Fi channel once Sunday afternoon. I was just blown away how beautiful she was in that white dress. And I wanted to look like Billy Campbell because he just oozed chadness.
Fricking blows that you're right. Why are people against depicting attractive white cisgender hetero people? Much less an alpha macho hero?
Allow me to break the news that your strawman actually exists and you didn't even know about it
There's a whole ass Disney+ CGI series about the elderly Rocketeer passing down his jetpack and his nazi-fighting mission to his brown granddaughter
It was widely praised for "breaking stereotypes and flipping the script to empower girls"
>~~*Jennifer Connelly*~~ was at her peak hotness
I noticed kind of a pattern after checking of early life of some hot and sexy black and white actresses
>quick, Phantom Detective! someone is trying to TURN OFF THE LIGHT! STOP HIM AT ONCE!
wow high stakes right there on the cover. my heart is pounding right now!
Based moron looking for things to get upset about
>What's your favorite radio drama?
Fibber McGee and Molly
>What's your favorite pulp novel?
Star Trek books
I'm sure it's all due to woke, and has nothing to do with the collapse of cable TV, covid, or the writer's strike.
All of those things + competency crisis (no one in Hollywood can write or direct for shit nowadays), which is why we're getting nothing but reboots and sequels, absolute creative bankruptcy.
That's fair
Why do you gays pretend DEI shit doesn't exist when your favorite plutocrats and propagandists love bragging about it? Why are you skeptical that killing meritocracy could affect the quality of entertainment productions?
It's just that it's gotten more flagrant with the heavy-handedness and there's not enough entertainment value to offset the preaching.
I lean liberal but even I'm finding this woke shit to be insufferable. This is why I'm watching pre-2010's movies and shows as well as foreign stuff from Japan, South Korea, the UK, France, Hong Kong, etc.
COVID should have helped the streaming industry. People had nothing else to do. But even with nothing to do, people wouldn't watch woke shit.
All those things were caused by Hollywood making woke shit that nobody wanted to watch. People would still have cable if it had great new shows on it. But nobody is going to keep paying for endless Friends reruns + new shows that are nothing but gay blacks screaming about how bad whites are.
>jews pretend to fight each other to keep the goyim from noticing things
It turns out that you are a poltard with no basic understanding of how companies, money or stock works.
When you want to grow up out of your Soviet era, come talk to us.
You don’t need to use double spacing to create a new paragraph on this website
Welcome, by the way!
>be poltard
>scream you are not when caught
it's very tiresome, Ivan...but you should learn how basic corporations and the stock market works on speculative gambling.
Then again, the country you come from has none of those advanced things, so I can see where your confusion comes from.
I come from a tiny third world nation in the Carib, but even we have a stock market here
It has ~7 listed companies
Furthermore, if I check the archives how many schizo posts will I find of you calling people ‘Ivan’?
Dumb esl poster
>Furthermore, if I check the archives how many schizo posts will I find of you calling people ‘Ivan’?
I've been called Ivan for mocking Disney in other threads lol
Explain to me what this will change? Doubt paramount is gonna start making something awesome
How do they make money on woke shit because I don’t know anyone IRL that wants that even the normies, and if they keep hemorrhaging absolutely insane amounts of money how aren’t they bankrupt right now? It’s obvious to me things “seem to be getting worse” but it also seems like it never matters. Same as vidya all these companies that are supposed to go under never do. The get woke go broke thing only seems to really hit smaller studios, these massive ones seem totally insulated from any consequences of “the free market.” I’ve just seen this 2 more weeks shit for wokeslop being doomed for probably a decade or more now and it’s always 2 more weeks away. The modern economy is too fake and gay and detached from reality to represent any meaningful consequences of pissing off consumers. These companies can act moronic for decades and still find ways to fleece money and israeli tricks to move debt around and restructure etc.
i'm just going to assume that this is mostly due to all of these companies wildly underestimating how much it costs to host a streaming service
Been run by Mosssad Sayanim for a while.