also this, and that clegane was pretty much a zombie at this point didn't help
the tension they had as brothers was pretty much irrelevant at that point
this. the whole of cleganebowl is literally a reddit meme that D&D included because they were basically just making the show based on what social media wanted to see and what characters they were shipping at this point. this is the same duo that had frickign ed sheeran show up and gave fricking bronn of all characters a happy ending
There was no real reason for the Hound to want to fight him, except for the meta Reddit meme of them fighting.
Are you two fricking moronic? Gregor burned Sandor's face when they were children over a toy, horrifically disfiguring him.
Sandor grew up watching his horrible brother grow wildly accomplished because he was a violent psychopath. He repeatedly states his desire to murder Gregor for being a cruel, vile c**t.
I think that the point is that he still acts completely the same, be it human or undead. He's a complete monster of a person (physically and mentally) and eventually he got turned into one.
It also gave him his burning contempt for so-called “honorable” knights. I always liked that about Sandor. He was openly contemptuous of knighthood while being more honorable than the vast majority of them.
We saw them together in S1 during the tourney and they were on normal terms. The whole fight between them started only because Gregor was being a maniac and tried to kill Loras. Hound intervened so his brother wouldn't get executed for it. Then in S3 Hound mentions that he will kill his brother the first time he meets him.
It makes no sense. If he hated him for the burnt face he would just let him kill Loras
Part of the hype was that it was a sleeper plotline that eventually would resurface in the end with huge importance to the plot. Instead it ended up being two dead men fighting over nothing.
No. The first book in the series hinted at a showdown between the undead Mountain and the combined duo of Jaime Lannister and the Hound. Total letdown.
well. it was pretty bad in the fan service sense. after years of hype and all that and then it happens at the very end
i liked the mountain just being this horrible inhuman abomination though that was fitting after a lifetime of being a piece of shit and serving a piece of shit
I was excited only because the Mountain vs Oberyn was a great spectacle. A powered up Mountain must be even cooler, right? Unfortunately it was chasing those spectacular scenes instead of making sure the characters were well written that killed the show.
I love that they tried to claim he did, that Sandor killed him by throwing them both into flames, like it was a really poetic moment they put onto the screen. Completely ignoring the fact he tackled him through a stone brick wall, plummeting hundreds of feet, no way of knowing that there was fire at the bottom. As if it would matter.
This. The obvious conclusion to Cleganebowl, at least in the show, would be Sandor talking zombie-Gregor into the flames, thus sacrificing himself and showing he has conquered his fears, both of his brother and of fire. He DOES tackle him into flames, but does so in a way he could not have predicted, removing all agency and thus ruining the payoff. D&D are such unbelievable hacks that they literally just had to slightly tweak the scene to make it work, and still couldn't do it.
It was a neat scene seeing Sandor vs. Undead Darth Vader but in a narrative sense it doesn't make any fricking sense. How does Sandor not understand he's a zombie until he sticks a dagger through his head?
Plus feels like he would have been over this by now. Killing Gregor never seemed like his mission in life, but more like a 'frick you big bro' whenever he saw him.
GRRM said the years in Westeros (or the planet it's in) are shorter than our years. Does that mean then when he says Daenerys is 14 years old, does he really mean she's even younger by our standards?
Zombie mountain was the last interesting thing they had going since season 5 or whatever when it happened and for season after season he did nothing until he fought his brother who, for no reason, didn't die alone in the woods. Absolute garbage and I no longer make the mistake of continuing a show that's going sour.
I was never interested in seeing them fight to be honest
also this, and that clegane was pretty much a zombie at this point didn't help
the tension they had as brothers was pretty much irrelevant at that point
There was no real reason for the Hound to want to fight him, except for the meta Reddit meme of them fighting.
this. the whole of cleganebowl is literally a reddit meme that D&D included because they were basically just making the show based on what social media wanted to see and what characters they were shipping at this point. this is the same duo that had frickign ed sheeran show up and gave fricking bronn of all characters a happy ending
Are you two fricking moronic? Gregor burned Sandor's face when they were children over a toy, horrifically disfiguring him.
Sandor grew up watching his horrible brother grow wildly accomplished because he was a violent psychopath. He repeatedly states his desire to murder Gregor for being a cruel, vile c**t.
>murder Gregor
But Gregor didn't even exist at this point, it was just a mindless zombie.
I think that the point is that he still acts completely the same, be it human or undead. He's a complete monster of a person (physically and mentally) and eventually he got turned into one.
woah this is deep
>literacy trope for 2 year olds
Sandor has a line you're still in there or something like that
It also gave him his burning contempt for so-called “honorable” knights. I always liked that about Sandor. He was openly contemptuous of knighthood while being more honorable than the vast majority of them.
That's quite redditish.
We saw them together in S1 during the tourney and they were on normal terms. The whole fight between them started only because Gregor was being a maniac and tried to kill Loras. Hound intervened so his brother wouldn't get executed for it. Then in S3 Hound mentions that he will kill his brother the first time he meets him.
It makes no sense. If he hated him for the burnt face he would just let him kill Loras
>let him kill some poofter and watch him be executed by another as a result
zero sense of honor or duty
this. not even sure when this dumb meme started. one was a fricking stand in extra, the other had actual story related dialogue. there was no setup
no. doesn't work with the mountain being all superman
it didn't live up to the hype, but the last few seconds where a satisfying end to the hounds arc
True, he got his revenge
Why on stairs?
Highlander
Not rly. Nothing was from those last 2 seasons
Part of the hype was that it was a sleeper plotline that eventually would resurface in the end with huge importance to the plot. Instead it ended up being two dead men fighting over nothing.
No. The first book in the series hinted at a showdown between the undead Mountain and the combined duo of Jaime Lannister and the Hound. Total letdown.
well. it was pretty bad in the fan service sense. after years of hype and all that and then it happens at the very end
i liked the mountain just being this horrible inhuman abomination though that was fitting after a lifetime of being a piece of shit and serving a piece of shit
obey your queen ser gregor
not even close
I was excited only because the Mountain vs Oberyn was a great spectacle. A powered up Mountain must be even cooler, right? Unfortunately it was chasing those spectacular scenes instead of making sure the characters were well written that killed the show.
>the Hound doesn't get over his pyrophobia by burning Gregor like a wight
no
I love that they tried to claim he did, that Sandor killed him by throwing them both into flames, like it was a really poetic moment they put onto the screen. Completely ignoring the fact he tackled him through a stone brick wall, plummeting hundreds of feet, no way of knowing that there was fire at the bottom. As if it would matter.
This. The obvious conclusion to Cleganebowl, at least in the show, would be Sandor talking zombie-Gregor into the flames, thus sacrificing himself and showing he has conquered his fears, both of his brother and of fire. He DOES tackle him into flames, but does so in a way he could not have predicted, removing all agency and thus ruining the payoff. D&D are such unbelievable hacks that they literally just had to slightly tweak the scene to make it work, and still couldn't do it.
Frick no. It wasn’t just anti-climactic, it was utterly inconsequential to the plot.
It was a neat scene seeing Sandor vs. Undead Darth Vader but in a narrative sense it doesn't make any fricking sense. How does Sandor not understand he's a zombie until he sticks a dagger through his head?
Plus feels like he would have been over this by now. Killing Gregor never seemed like his mission in life, but more like a 'frick you big bro' whenever he saw him.
GRRM said the years in Westeros (or the planet it's in) are shorter than our years. Does that mean then when he says Daenerys is 14 years old, does he really mean she's even younger by our standards?
Where did he say that?
He really didn't put too much thought into it and neither should anybody else.
No this fight, and the entire show, ended up being moronic slop
I forgot Cleganebowl even happened. The show was so mediocre by that point.
Zombie mountain was the last interesting thing they had going since season 5 or whatever when it happened and for season after season he did nothing until he fought his brother who, for no reason, didn't die alone in the woods. Absolute garbage and I no longer make the mistake of continuing a show that's going sour.
I stopped watching at some point during season 5 as it was SHIT
i am glad everybody completely wiped this show from their memories