>H-HE’S BALD… >HE’S WHITE… >Does he look like a b***h? >WH-WHA—*BANG* >DOES HE LOOK >LIKE >A b***h >Noooooooo! >Then why’d you try to frick him like a b***h, Vegeta?
Didn't DBZ and Pokemon get huge in America at roughly the same time, if not DBZ even earlier? How does the writer assume people know Pokemon but DBZ is some esoteric enigma?
There were a few anime series popular before then like Robotech, Voltron, and Speed Racer.
You could basically consider
The west made their own violent and unsettling child content back in the late 80s and early 90s too, so it wasn't just a Japanese thing. The issue was however, it tended to be met with mixed results. The Transformers movie for example was really dark and upset a lot of children
It can be hard to find the sweet spot on how far you can push before children's media becomes too grim for the target age group. It is safer for companies to just sanitize everything for kids and lock anything that is remotely scary, or violent, into much higher age brackets
G1 Transformers to be anime as well as it was made by Japanese animators based on a Japanese toy line though the writing was completely western.
Not anime but there was also Power Rangers, infact I believe the same company that brought Power Rangers to the US is the 1 that first brought DBZ here and did the early dub for it before Funimation
Pokemon and Sailor Moon had a lot of popularity with merchandise..I think if you want a more definitive answer on a "top 3" pre2000, you'd probably want to look for merch sales to weigh their commercial success
I guess they missed that "Videl" is an anagram for "Devil"
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but it literally was a joke about satan deception and a parody of those fighters with ridiculous names from wrestling
honestly, why did they put so many satanic references in the show? japs aren't even christians, it doesn't make sense
The Monkey king is analogous to a satanic figure within his own story. He rebels against heaven at the start of his own mythology. The references to satan are absolutely intentional and are expression of japanese artists' beliefs and a way to connect to common archetypes found throughout literature and mythology, eastern and western.
Yes, my church told everyone not to let their kids watch it so my grandma, parents and aunts and uncles didn't let us watch it and I seethed because it's what all the other kids in class were talking about every day.
One of the kids at school lent me his DBZ magazine and I don't think I've ever felt that much excitement again in my life, hiding it from my parents and reading it in secret. I wish I could feel that kind of excitement again about something.
Although I kinda wanted to kill myself when they ended up both pregnant at the same time (managed to convince mistress to abort "for now") as she still thinks I'll leave my wife for her eventually (I won't, lol).
Every since starting my affair I see more and more anons on Cinemaphile talk about it as well. Must be an age thing where us millennials are now at the age of having settled down and being bored with the wife so we have to get excitement from other women.
>Cartoon Network quoted in the article saying they've received zero complaints >WSJ still felt this warranted an entire article
I don't remember hearing any bad things about DBZ. What really pissed parents off was wrestling, specifically WWF/WWE attitude era shit. Trust me kids playing at doing kamehamehas was a lot safer than kids doing powerbombs tombstones and jumping off of the highest shit they could climb.
I tried to get my 6 yr old nephew into DBZ and according to my sister/his mother, he had nightmares afterward. You guys don't realise how soft, non violent and PC kids cartoons have gotten. I don't think DBZ is violent for its time because no one I knew as kids was traumatised by the violence, but it is very violent t for these gen Alpha kids
DBZ is no more violent than Marvel and Star Wars. And kids eat that shit up.
Being gay was seen as a bad thing back then and equally condemned, moronic zoomer. It didn't become le good until the early 2010s. Shit, gays couldn't even get married until 2015. It was a massive cultural takeover.
A lot of teenage boys are still terrified of being called or thought of as gay. That 20% LGBT statistic is heavily weighted by girls calling themselves bisexual or nonbinary for attention.
>A lot of teenage boys are still terrified of being called or thought of as gay. That 20% LGBT statistic is heavily weighted by girls calling themselves bisexual or nonbinary for attention.
That's because being gay is innately seen as a bad thing among males and no amount of government propaganda is going to change that. But the fact remains that the government and media apparati have decided it is now le good. The US military flies the gay/trans flag and states that one of its primary goals is to secure gay rights. This kind of shit was unthinkable back when DBZ started airing.
>DBZ is no more violent than Marvel and Star Wars.
Not true, but also gen alpha doesn't give a frick about those franchises, which is partly why they are bombing lately. They skew millennial hard.
Even as incredibly toned down as the dragon ball super anime is from the already toned down compared to previous stuff super manga it's still more violent then marvel and Star Wars
>don't think DBZ is violent for its time because no one I knew as kids was traumatised by the violence,
Yeah despite the few examples people were able to dig up in this thread, no one cared about DBZ except those watching it. I never heard anyone complain about it at any point, in person or in media.
>I tried to get my 6 yr old nephew into DBZ and according to my sister/his mother, he had nightmares afterward.
To be fair, Dragon Ball has some unsettling imagery in it that you probably forgot about over the years. I would not ever recommend that show to a child of six. Ten, maybe, but six? No way
Honestly depending of what episode it was I can believe that a 6yo could be fricked up if he never watched anything remotely violent before. First form cell and frieza impaling krillin can be rough.
That guy is a moron, if you take a borderline toddler who up until now only watched Paw Patrol and show him fricking DBZ he's obviously going to be overloaded. Even if he only saw until the Raditz fight, he still saw two men getting pierced in the chest and fricking die.
There's always some idiot who's parents were stupid enough to let them watch Robocop at age five, so he thinks it is normal for kids to be exposed to hyper violence at a young age
I do believe that dbz is manageable but not at six and not without progressive exposure. I was like 7 when I started the original DB and went all the way to GT over I guess 5 years or so, never a problem, ut the first DB had extremely few dark moments and just got progressively more violent.
Your nephew is a pussy. Earlier this year, I dated a girl with a 5 year-old (I don't care), and he would try to go Super Saiyan when he got mad. It was adorable.
my wifes brother who recently turned 18 still watches shit meant for children. i don't think he's seen a movie or show that wasnt a childrens cartoon or children's movie.
>A sort of Pokemon meets "Pulp Fiction" >Last week, "Dragon Ball Z" ranked as the fifth-most requested topic on the Lycos search site, behind singer Brittney Spears and the Pokeon cartoon, but ahead of the World Wrestling Federation and Pamela Anderson >"Gundam" is a tale of bad guys from outer space
>>Last week, "Dragon Ball Z" ranked as the fifth-most requested topic on the Lycos search site, behind singer Brittney Spears and the Pokeon cartoon, but ahead of the World Wrestling Federation and Pamela Anderson
It's funny how in-tune with everything I was as a kid. I can still remember this exact moment in time where all this shit was the hot topic everyone was talking about. But I haven't paid attention to pop culture in so long I have no idea what's trending and don't give a shit.
Being gay was seen as a bad thing back then and equally condemned, moronic zoomer. It didn't become le good until the early 2010s. Shit, gays couldn't even get married until 2015. It was a massive cultural takeover.
Well teenage boys don't want to say they're gay for show because gay guys actually act on it and women won't show interest.
Teenage girls can call themselves literal men and guys will still date them, approach, etc.. as long as they're female presenting. All the while they can check that 'lgbt' box.
This is some Dante's Inferno looking descent into the darkness. All the worse, as it is innocent children frolicking amongst these sick child predators
It made for a a quickie article on a weekday or weeknight broadcast 3 minute segment. Pokemon got more backlash and even then the most it did was censor Jynx and a few parts of episodes.
>Why are journalists allergic to being correct about anything?
You can write whatever bullshit you can think of and get paid for it. We do it here all the time but they get paid decent money and most people think they are bastions of honesty and truth.
They probably thought the ki blasts were them getting around censorship of guns.
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Japan just thinks the imagery is cool. Chainsaw Man came under fire for all the references to devils last year.
There was this teen guy in Spain who killed both his parents and her sister with down syndrome with a katana and because he kinda had a similar hair with Squall and liked the game the media blamed the game.
The news literally said he did it following instructions of the game and that the weapon was identical, it demonized Final Fantasy in many homes.
He's now free, married with a fangirl and has a kid.
Media has always been bullshit, wich is boomers are so fricked up, they got it 24h all their life
I'd find it hard to believe no Japanese parents thought shit like Ren and Stimpy or Cow and Chicken was disturbing and inappropriate if they imported those.
censorship in japan is such bullshit mess, doesnt make sense most of the time and its just the result of burocratic laws on top of each other as no japanese politicians wants to be the one to strip the censorship.
this is why laws should always expire and be voted again
Every generation has to learn that manufactured controversy is a thing. It's forgotten by the next generation and they have to learn it all over again.
This pic goes hard as hell btw. Just look at it.
I just remember a bunch of us got in trouble for playing pretend when the btas kid brought some batarangs to use in our fights.
Said batarangs was sharp ass ninja stars >kid charging up his kamehameha >couple power rangers kids striking a pose >spiderman kids swinging around the money bars >batman kid chunks a batarang at the kid charging his kamehameha missing him but sticking it into the tree right next to where the teacher was sitting almost nailing her in the side of the head
We didn't get playground time for a month
The west made their own violent and unsettling child content back in the late 80s and early 90s too, so it wasn't just a Japanese thing. The issue was however, it tended to be met with mixed results. The Transformers movie for example was really dark and upset a lot of children
It can be hard to find the sweet spot on how far you can push before children's media becomes too grim for the target age group. It is safer for companies to just sanitize everything for kids and lock anything that is remotely scary, or violent, into much higher age brackets
Teaching kids about stuff like death or disease seemed like something that a fair amount of shows wanted to do more back then than today, although it's not like I watch them today so I can't say for sure. I wonder how a show like David the Gnome would be seen today.
I remember my mother was wary of David the Gnome because of all of the evil spirits, warlocks, demons and trolls that were in it. She begrudgingly allowed it, seeing that the underlining message of the stories were valuable. I also really loved Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics and that show had a lot of scary looking creatures, devils and violence in it. I got frightened watching it on several occasions, hiding behind the living room chair at the scariest parts, but found it fascinating and the stories were wonderful
I strongly recommend Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics for anyone who has children. You might even enjoy the stories more than your children do in the moment, but they won't forget them
My mom was pretty open minded about this kind of thing thankfully.
Kids and adults really look at this stuff differently I think, or rather adults think kids look at it and are more fragile than they really are. Or maybe kids are just too dumb to make connections in their head over such things. Secret of NIMH, All Dogs go to Heaven, Bambi and Lion King and other stuff I can't remember are all things I'm happy to have experienced as a kid, but I have to wonder if it would be seen as damaging and a bad influence by bored online people now.
The Grimm's Fairy Tale anime stuff is definitely good material for sure. I never got to see it as a kid, but I do remember Nickelodeon did had some anime in its early morning kid's block in the early 90s that I enjoyed, but I'm not sure if it had any great lessons like that.
>I do remember Nickelodeon did had some anime in its early morning kid's block in the early 90s that I enjoyed, but I'm not sure if it had any great lessons like that.
Yeah, there were a few others like The Noozles, Maya the Bee, Adventures of the Little Koala, and The Littl' Bits, off the back of my head. I liked them all, though they didn't have anything close to the life lessons and entertainment value of Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics, which I suppose is fair, since they are based off of the Brother's Grimm stories. The others were more standard children's shows, but still quite enjoyable
>because of all of the evil spirits, warlocks, demons and trolls that were in it
Do American evangelicals really believe in this shit? Like that time when they said Harry Potter promotes witchcraft, as if it was a real thing. Do they also want to ban Grimm tales?
>six to 11 year olds - the demographic group most coveted by children's advertisers >Even the U.S. Navy is running macho recruitment ads at the end of the show.
Western parents having a fit when Dragon Ball came on were not in the wrong. Shit got really grim in that show
>Kid watching Dragon Ball >Take a quick glance at it as you pass >Child in the show just got kicked in his head and now he's twitching uncontrollably with a broken neck
Even Japan isn't willing to show too much violence in Dragon Ball anymore. In Dragon Ball Super, blood is extremely limited and any violence against women is dumbed down severely, despite an abundance of female fighters this time around in the spotlight. With Caulifla and Kale, you won't see fists ever directly connect into their faces, or their stomachs. The camera will pan away before the impact. Scenes like Videl getting her teeth kicked in, stomach punched until her organs are leaking blood from her mouth, crying with her head stepped on, etc, is unthinkable now. Japan will of course still draw that sort of thing, but they put it on adult channels late at night, as far from time slots for kids as possible
And that's why Dragon Ball Super sucks. Infantile animation style, infantile behavior from the characters, infantile plot, infantile "violence." You can plainly see that Toriyama did it deliberately with his new series of them literally being diaper-shitting babies.
no. but israelites viciously attack forign products to protect their own interests. gen-x parents go along with it because otherwise they would have to take responsibility for being absentee parents, and then they might realize that isnt their fault either because the reason both parents have to work is because of the same israelites that are telling them the cartoons are to blame.
it's lead poisoning. new gen is getting microplastic which makes them soft, and stupid, but lead poisoning makes someone not only stupid, but angry, and stupid. any gen exposed to lead like their generation is RUINED.
No, but Fist of the North Star was controversial and the French TV station abruptly stopped airing it before the end. Also apparently the dub cast rebelled and introduced all sorts of ridiculous easter eggs to the translation because they found the original show so ridiculous.
I heard they rewrote the whole script to be a comedy and lessen the impact of the violence. So imagine growing up with Hokuto as some dopey comedy cartoon, and later on finding out it was a serious story that got raped in translation.
Translation and localization does a lot of damage. Take Frieza, for example. In Japanese, he's a very polite and well-spoken nobleman. In English however, he's very crass and rude. The west still depict him this way in English for whatever reason. It isn't incompetence, it is a deliberate decision that hurts Frieza's character
Italian kids in the '80s and '90s grew up watching Fist of the North Star, and it wasn't a big deal. I don't even remember any major protests from parents associations or something like that.
But in the early 2000s there was a controversy about Dragonball for the supposedly inappropriate sexual content. The usual "children exposed to violence is totally ok, anything sexual is a big no-no" approach.
Dragonball was definitely sexually inappropriate by today's standards: 16yo tomboy goes around showing her bobs and vegana to perverted old men, lets boy sleep with her, watch her bathe, etc. The first volume of Dragonball would probably land you in jail if you published that in 21st century America.
Inb4 Goku was actually a "teenager".
The French and French Canadian had access to the manga and anime like 10 frickin years before Mexicans and Americans, and the anti-Japanese anime panic was even more pronounced back then since it was also around the time of the "violence in video games" moral panic against games like Doom and Mortal Kombat.
Unless it was Stallone or Schwarzenegger killing Palestinians in action movies - that was totally cool and family friendly violence.
Even Power Rangers, which for us was around the same time as us Frenchies & Canadian Frenchies reading the Cell Arc in the manga but for Americans would be way before their release of anything Dragon ball, was considered as ultra violent garbage that was corrupting our youth.
Even the Ninja Turtles went through heavy editing and censorship where they couldn't use or show nunchuks in the cartoon nevermind using swords, and them not being called Ninjas in England and also Germany I believe but rather "heroes"
Zoomers' parents were barely conceived at the time so zoomers themselves will never know of the anti-Japanese sentiment found in the West when Japan was seemingly set to conquer the world economically
I think with the nunchaku, it was due to them just being really dangerous, poorly understood weapons. Kids wanted to go to karate schools specifically to learn those things because Mikey was just too cool with them. Then you add in kids making make-shift ones, swinging things around the house and the parents had simply had enough of it. It wasn't too different than Beavis not talking about fire anymore because it was encouraging kids to start burning things. In fact, if I recall right, one kid actually burned his house down
Well that was the excuse for everything for a while. If some kid got fricked up in a school fight in the 1980s they would somehow blame it on Hulk Hogan. In the 1970s if kids broke their legs falling off a tree or something they would be blaming it on these brand new Superman movies.
But guns? uhhhhh no, that's somehow totally different
It is no secret that little Jamal sees Big Hood Nignog the rapper, waving a gun around and feels inspired to copy him. The media just doesn't bother to talk about it, for reasons
The US had the ocean dub of dbz probably by 93 or 94 playing on tv on Saturday mornings. Cant remember the channel (tbs, wb,) but it at least went through the sayian saga and right to the start of the Namek saga.
Imagine the person who wrote this realizing that not even thirty years later, 12-year-olds would be en masse uploading petabytes of videos showing them shaking their bare asses on TikTok every day of the year nonstop. How would they cope?
It's fricking grim how far gone things are. Back in the very very early days of Youtube we weren't allowed to borrow the camcorder to make videos unless we covered our faces up like fricking Taliban fighters. Now you're not only encouraged but required to use your real first and last name on certain platforms, and attach that to all the content you're making. Growing up I refused to even give out my real first name online.
Yeah, some people even thought Pokemon and Yugioh represented the devil, but it wasn't super common at least in my area of the US. The kids who weren't allowed to watch it were an exception to the rule and see as weird. There was one family out of dozens in my neighborhood who thought Ed, Edd, n Eddy specifically was "a bunch of japanese mind control crap", but otherwise all the other kids loved DBZ and traded Pokemon cards.
Yeah also this, I forgot how so much of the American resentment of new Japanese media was less of an anti-violence angle but moreso just that card games and cartoon bugs represent witchcraft and the devil.
>card games and cartoon bugs represent witchcraft and the devil
Parents were wary about letting their kids get into what looked like some gypsy shit. This was a big concern with Harry Potter too. Most of those concerns were validated. Harry Potter is truly a blight on humanity and brought absolutely nothing worthwhile to literature or otherwise
I mean that was always the case. At least in America, you're either a Demoncrat or a Rapepublican, a antifa or a nazi, a incel or a troony, etc etc etc.
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good, bad, etc. etc.
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You're not American esl. We can see your ip moron lmao
>be 10 years old big into pokemon >oldest sister in late 20s suddenly gets big into religion >joins a church promoting praying the japanese demons out of these kids >tells parents I shouldn't be watching pokemon, digimon, monster rancher because demonic monsters >they lolwut at her >we stop in a piggly wiggly parking lot one day and she tries to exorcise the pokemon demons out of me >10 year old self is taking the piss and laughing my ass off >dont tell mom >tell mom and dad >20 plus years later and I still give her shit for those years where she went full moron into religion
In Peru they used to show evangelion and south park after school because the channel assumed cartoon = kid friendly. A celebrity show (think extra) ran a report on it and there was a huge controversy.
The only real correct outrage was aimed at Yu-Gi-Oh, if you look back into the name of the cards and shit, that stuff was definetely edgy, satanic and way out of line for a christian family to allow their kids to be influenced by.
>Know little about Yi-Gi-Oh >Go israelitegle some of the cards
I see why the parents weren't happy. A lot of these cards are very grim, or sexualized, or both. The names alone can be bad enough, but then the pictures to go with them really add to the issue
its not just that though. The game is centered around summoning creatures, sacrificing monsters, with cards like dark magician, witch of the forest, skull servant, old entity.
That completed with artifacts of ancient egypt and trapped souls and what not. Christian backlash was justified.
And mind you that the show was marketed to kids, just like pokemon.
None of it was anti-Christian though.
Like I said it's the same as being scared that the booberry ghost or jack o lantern on halloween or mary shelley's frankenstein's monster is also going somehow steal your soul
Which ironically some American Christians also believe.
its not about being scared tho, read this post again, it's not just 'jack o lantern' shit.
its not just that though. The game is centered around summoning creatures, sacrificing monsters, with cards like dark magician, witch of the forest, skull servant, old entity.
That completed with artifacts of ancient egypt and trapped souls and what not. Christian backlash was justified.
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I'm sorry but is there a part of the bible I'm missing where it says that goblins and wizards are real?
They were shitting themselves over MtG a few years prior, and before that with Dungeons & Dragons.
I mean if all the kids who played whatever card game between the 1980s and today all grew up to be able to throw real life magic spells around like some Skyrim mage that'd be cool.
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Why are you adding points and moving the goalposts?
It's not "goblins and wizards", the game has you summoning demons, magicians and spells.
Are you moronic? Christians families were justified in their backlash, Yu-Gi-Oh was way more popular than D&D or MtG, it had an anime and it aired on kid hours on TV.
Do you understand the main point or did it fly through your head?
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>the game has you summoning demons, magicians and spells.
Yeah.... but no. Because it's a game.
Like I said it's like someone emptied a Halloween Party store into a bag and shook it up with a sprinkle of Egyptian mythology and out came the Yu Gi Oh cards.
and with Pokemon cards where even is the argument in that? They also said that Pokemon were demons.
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Who said anything about pokemon, who's "they"?
you either have ADHD or you can't stick to discussing the main point, which is families not wanting their kids to be influenced by certain stuff, like games where you summon demons, spells and sacrifice creatures.
Lmao pokemon, you have poor comprehension skills
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>Who said anything about pokemon, who's "they"?
I said something about pokemon and "they" are American Christians in their never ending satanic panic
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the game has you summoning demons, magicians and spells.
I knew it! I knew I could have had my own succubus if my DM had let me have that level up!
have a nice day or die if you think the early israeli-go card were too much for kids.
The only reason they sensored cards was religious or cleavage anyways, die c**t.
Yugioh's first anime series literally had a parody of the masons that was ran by 10000 year old wizard king from atlantis trying to bring back his dark leviathan god to judge the world. it's by far the most heavy handed about esoteric bullshit and nonsense for decades.
I recall more of a moral panic with pokemon, dbz wasnt really a thing adults cared about back then.
With pokemon mania it was huge, you had christians being mad kids were being taught about evolution lol
When my youth pastor started talking about how Pokemon was le bad, it was the first time I started thinking something an adult was telling me was bullshit. I was always a good goy up til then but there was no way I was going to stop playing/watching Pokemon just because that prick said so.
I remember my school said needing badges to make them obey was alluding to using relics to make demons obey commands.
The evolution thing was really dumb to get held up on since it's really your pokemon growing up. Evolving just sounds cooler.
Stupid Karens were a thing back then too. Politicians like Hillary Clinton liked to pretend that GTA games were going to make more school shootings happen.
probably naruto. i didn't go to the mall after 2006 but it's peak must have been huge. it came out at the right time where the internet let you have the next exciting episode right away on a streaming site.
That would be funny if I'd heard it 25 years ago
i'm partial to the religious being against pokemon having evolutions, zelda games having magic, and cowboy bebop at his computer
There might have been a bigger fuss if they had moved quick enough for it to reach the part where he actually marries 7 women all at once.
Instead it just seemed like "Betty & Veronica, but Archie has a lightsaber".
The news in my country did a report where they said all hentai was for pedos and counted as very illegal CP while showing barely censored scenes. The girl had a literal fertility goddess (aka not underage) body.
Their "damning" proof was that one of the servers (for paid hentai, no less) was in America while the domain was registered elsewhere.
I saw this report as a teenager and it was the first time I realized that the news are literally fricking moronic.
Soccer mom's and religious moral crusaders were at their peak in the 90's. Thankfully most people just laughed in their faces and told them to frick off.
It's got fricking cancelled in my country at the very beginning of the Android saga. It was a day of national tragedy for all kids of my age group. We even signed petitions in school for it to return.
My parents hated it when I watched DBZ every morning before school. They tried to change the channel to make me see safer content a few times but they gave up very quickly.
Moral panics can occur around anything. Like "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" with nunchuks edited out. Swords, bo-staff etc were fine but nunchuks and throwing stars were part of the "ninja weapon" panic.
No, everyone loved it. It was just the right wing Christians trying to make an issue of it and no one cared or told them to shut the frick up. Just like how they attacked vidya.
No, not really. Most adults didn't even know what the frick DragonBall Z even was.
>Most adults
anyone in their 40s and everyone below 24 don't count.
>A sort of Pokemon meets "Pulp Fiction"
My exact reaction
and its literally older than both, journalists have always been so bad lol
>Does Frieza look like a b***h?
>H-HE’S BALD…
>HE’S WHITE…
>Does he look like a b***h?
>WH-WHA—*BANG*
>DOES HE LOOK
>LIKE
>A b***h
>Noooooooo!
>Then why’d you try to frick him like a b***h, Vegeta?
Depends on the form
>first thing she talks about is Vegeta getting strangled by frieza
you know the scene
I hate how fast the super form was nerfed, vegeta should've transformed first against cell imo
Couldn't happen Trunks coming back stated for fact SSJ doesn't do shit against the Androids let alone against Cell.
wich was already a problem
Pretty much nailed it.
lol how the frick did they get pulp fiction out of dbz
They probably thought the ki blasts were them getting around censorship of guns.
Japan just thinks the imagery is cool. Chainsaw Man came under fire for all the references to devils last year.
It was a buzzword for violence in the 90s.
They are trying to paint it as a gorefest so soccor moms got scared
>Pulp Fiction
Seems like they considered the daily dose an official part of the franchise.
Underrated
>What does vegeta look like? Does he look like a b***h?
>Dead Jinx Storage
>Nah man, I'm pretty fricking far from thanking the doc.
Don't be such a... square, man
> hands make a clear isosceles triangle
> outputs a square
The anime turned the hole into a square but in the manga it's shaped like Tien's hands
>Want some donuts?
>No man, I don't eat sushi.
>Are you Namekian?
Didn't DBZ and Pokemon get huge in America at roughly the same time, if not DBZ even earlier? How does the writer assume people know Pokemon but DBZ is some esoteric enigma?
In the late 90s the big 3 was Sailor Moon Pokemon and DBZ, all getting real popular within a year or two of each other
Those were the original American anime, by the early 2000s there were at least a dozen or more fairly popular ones
There were a few anime series popular before then like Robotech, Voltron, and Speed Racer.
You could basically consider
G1 Transformers to be anime as well as it was made by Japanese animators based on a Japanese toy line though the writing was completely western.
Not anime but there was also Power Rangers, infact I believe the same company that brought Power Rangers to the US is the 1 that first brought DBZ here and did the early dub for it before Funimation
Pokemon and Sailor Moon had a lot of popularity with merchandise..I think if you want a more definitive answer on a "top 3" pre2000, you'd probably want to look for merch sales to weigh their commercial success
Dalle E that please
Frieza wasn't that small
he was, it really depended on the animator though
freiza and vegeta were always meant to signify the inherent evil of the manlet, and when given power, to ultimately abuse it for evil
But Vegeta ended up being the perfect husband and father. Whereas the tall Goku is a shit father and shit husband
That's because tall kings don't need to try at anything ever, dumbass.
Your comment reeks of manlet cope and whataboutism
Cope and seethe lanklet. Have fun with the double knee replacement
In my country some people even said it was satanic because of a minor character named Mr satan
In America they renamed him "Hercule" to avoid that.
I guess they missed that "Videl" is an anagram for "Devil"
I think that went over my head as a kid.
It’s cause he was called Hercule instead of Mr satan.
>videls pussy so good Gohan became a shell of his former badass self for decades
Makes so much sense now
25 years of watching DB. How have I never realized this.
but it literally was a joke about satan deception and a parody of those fighters with ridiculous names from wrestling
The Monkey king is analogous to a satanic figure within his own story. He rebels against heaven at the start of his own mythology. The references to satan are absolutely intentional and are expression of japanese artists' beliefs and a way to connect to common archetypes found throughout literature and mythology, eastern and western.
considering how things turned out after 20 years, i think these religious people and catholic churches might've been right...
Yes, my church told everyone not to let their kids watch it so my grandma, parents and aunts and uncles didn't let us watch it and I seethed because it's what all the other kids in class were talking about every day.
One of the kids at school lent me his DBZ magazine and I don't think I've ever felt that much excitement again in my life, hiding it from my parents and reading it in secret. I wish I could feel that kind of excitement again about something.
Have an affair on your wife, it'll give you the same rush
This, but unironically.
>implying I was being ironic
Men should cheat at every opportunity they get. A woman who cheats should be executed thoughbeit
Men are trash, women are prostitutes. Sex is just sex.
you coom brained meat mashers. stop letting your hormones control you and just jerk off. sex is overrated
kys degenerate
If she didn’t conceive a child for you you’re morally obligated to cheat on her to procreate.
>Anime Autist
>Wife
>ending up divorced because you took any chance to relive the thrill of reading 1996 Dragon Ball Z promotional materials
Can confirm....
Although I kinda wanted to kill myself when they ended up both pregnant at the same time (managed to convince mistress to abort "for now") as she still thinks I'll leave my wife for her eventually (I won't, lol).
Every since starting my affair I see more and more anons on Cinemaphile talk about it as well. Must be an age thing where us millennials are now at the age of having settled down and being bored with the wife so we have to get excitement from other women.
Only white parents complained
Yeah because we had parents who were present, not an absentee dad and crackhoe mammy lol
I'm a Hispanic and brown evangelical parents complained in my country as well, frick you historical revisionist Black person
so only protestant garbage complained
I'm a Hispanic and people didn't complain much about DBZ in my country because we aired Saint Seiya earlier which was a lot bloodier.
>Sally Beatty
I mean a quarter of the country thought pokemon might be satanic.
>Tenchi Meyo
...
>Video Kid: Tenchi Meyo at his computer
they are literally talking about Vegeta AIIIIEEEEEEE moment LMAOOO
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DIOS MIO AY CARUMBA BEJITA ESTA MUERTO!!!!
Is Frieza dubbed by a Brazilian troony?
Lol frieza went full Ramon
I started laughing hysterically at that dub, jesus christ it sounds like it was recorded in a bus bathroom.
Sounds like a brutal ass rape.
lost it at 0.01 seconds
AIII FILHO DA PUTA PARAAAA
Portuguese Ginyu is kino
dare i say kino?
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Bejitasisters… our response?
>Cartoon Network quoted in the article saying they've received zero complaints
>WSJ still felt this warranted an entire article
I don't remember hearing any bad things about DBZ. What really pissed parents off was wrestling, specifically WWF/WWE attitude era shit. Trust me kids playing at doing kamehamehas was a lot safer than kids doing powerbombs tombstones and jumping off of the highest shit they could climb.
An age old journalist axiom: if there's no news, make the news
Dragon Ball was the only reason many kids from spanish speaking families ever learned catalan so in Catalonia it was always treated as a godsend.
>DBZ
>Gundam
>Tenchi Muyo
>Tom talking about anger management set to D&B music with DBZ clips playing
I can still see it all in my head. Take me fricking back.
new Tom talks about black lives matter
This is why being a christchud will never be "counter culture." We all remember how lame y'all were in the 80s and 90s.
>y'all
>y'all
Yeah, not making your point very well by painting yourself as lame here
Yeah, I remember this kind of bullshit. It was even worse with Yu-Gi-Oh cards, some nut jobs even burned them because they thought them satanic
I tried to get my 6 yr old nephew into DBZ and according to my sister/his mother, he had nightmares afterward. You guys don't realise how soft, non violent and PC kids cartoons have gotten. I don't think DBZ is violent for its time because no one I knew as kids was traumatised by the violence, but it is very violent t for these gen Alpha kids
the only violence children are allowed to see now is ass rape wich is promoted for a whole month
>>I tried to get my 6 yr old nephew into DBZ and according to my sister/his mother, he had nightmares afterward.
What? No I'm not believing that shit.
My 8 year old nephew told me last week that there are trannies and bisexuals in his class.
DBZ is no more violent than Marvel and Star Wars. And kids eat that shit up.
A lot of teenage boys are still terrified of being called or thought of as gay. That 20% LGBT statistic is heavily weighted by girls calling themselves bisexual or nonbinary for attention.
>A lot of teenage boys are still terrified of being called or thought of as gay. That 20% LGBT statistic is heavily weighted by girls calling themselves bisexual or nonbinary for attention.
That's because being gay is innately seen as a bad thing among males and no amount of government propaganda is going to change that. But the fact remains that the government and media apparati have decided it is now le good. The US military flies the gay/trans flag and states that one of its primary goals is to secure gay rights. This kind of shit was unthinkable back when DBZ started airing.
>more violent than Marvel and Star Wars. And kids eat that shit up.
show me scenes of broken limbs in the marvelverse
>DBZ is no more violent than Marvel and Star Wars
>Someone out there jacked off to this
y-yeah what kind of weirdo would do that
Haaland is that you?
>DBZ is no more violent than Marvel and Star Wars.
Not true, but also gen alpha doesn't give a frick about those franchises, which is partly why they are bombing lately. They skew millennial hard.
Even as incredibly toned down as the dragon ball super anime is from the already toned down compared to previous stuff super manga it's still more violent then marvel and Star Wars
>don't think DBZ is violent for its time because no one I knew as kids was traumatised by the violence,
Yeah despite the few examples people were able to dig up in this thread, no one cared about DBZ except those watching it. I never heard anyone complain about it at any point, in person or in media.
>I tried to get my 6 yr old nephew into DBZ and according to my sister/his mother, he had nightmares afterward.
To be fair, Dragon Ball has some unsettling imagery in it that you probably forgot about over the years. I would not ever recommend that show to a child of six. Ten, maybe, but six? No way
Honestly depending of what episode it was I can believe that a 6yo could be fricked up if he never watched anything remotely violent before. First form cell and frieza impaling krillin can be rough.
understandable, I saw this around age 5 and it traumatized me for a few years
Yeah I remember seeing this on TV when I was like 11 and I had trouble sleeping for months. I knew that monsters weren't real, but aliens?
Yeah, this was terrifying in theaters as a youth.
Funny thing. I also recognized how violent DBZ was as a kid. I thought that made it awesome.
That guy is a moron, if you take a borderline toddler who up until now only watched Paw Patrol and show him fricking DBZ he's obviously going to be overloaded. Even if he only saw until the Raditz fight, he still saw two men getting pierced in the chest and fricking die.
There's always some idiot who's parents were stupid enough to let them watch Robocop at age five, so he thinks it is normal for kids to be exposed to hyper violence at a young age
I do believe that dbz is manageable but not at six and not without progressive exposure. I was like 7 when I started the original DB and went all the way to GT over I guess 5 years or so, never a problem, ut the first DB had extremely few dark moments and just got progressively more violent.
Star Wars had a guy slice an alien's arm off, a man get choked to death onscreen, lasers charring flesh, etc. It was rated PG.
I think the main difference is Star Wars didn't have any blood
literally the cantina scene
Then I guess no one cares when aliens are injured or killed
What other things has he watched? You have to gauge things appropriate for kids individually.
Your nephew is a pussy. Earlier this year, I dated a girl with a 5 year-old (I don't care), and he would try to go Super Saiyan when he got mad. It was adorable.
>I dated a girl with a 5 year-old
homosexual.
>(I don't care)
Oh okay I'm sorry.
did you frick him?
my wifes brother who recently turned 18 still watches shit meant for children. i don't think he's seen a movie or show that wasnt a childrens cartoon or children's movie.
>A sort of Pokemon meets "Pulp Fiction"
>Last week, "Dragon Ball Z" ranked as the fifth-most requested topic on the Lycos search site, behind singer Brittney Spears and the Pokeon cartoon, but ahead of the World Wrestling Federation and Pamela Anderson
>"Gundam" is a tale of bad guys from outer space
>>Last week, "Dragon Ball Z" ranked as the fifth-most requested topic on the Lycos search site, behind singer Brittney Spears and the Pokeon cartoon, but ahead of the World Wrestling Federation and Pamela Anderson
It's funny how in-tune with everything I was as a kid. I can still remember this exact moment in time where all this shit was the hot topic everyone was talking about. But I haven't paid attention to pop culture in so long I have no idea what's trending and don't give a shit.
>kvetching over DBZ (which should be mandatory viewing for all children)
>but picrel is state mandated
Being gay was seen as a bad thing back then and equally condemned, moronic zoomer. It didn't become le good until the early 2010s. Shit, gays couldn't even get married until 2015. It was a massive cultural takeover.
Well teenage boys don't want to say they're gay for show because gay guys actually act on it and women won't show interest.
Teenage girls can call themselves literal men and guys will still date them, approach, etc.. as long as they're female presenting. All the while they can check that 'lgbt' box.
and it was a better time
This is some Dante's Inferno looking descent into the darkness. All the worse, as it is innocent children frolicking amongst these sick child predators
Parents thought it was dumb and violent but it kept their kids quiet for an hour a day. Now to keep kids quiet they give them Adderal and a tablet.
It was the superior show
>20 or somehting episodes vs 200
Exactly
Discount firefly
ENTER
Lycos, I'm surprised that site still fricking exists.
It made for a a quickie article on a weekday or weeknight broadcast 3 minute segment. Pokemon got more backlash and even then the most it did was censor Jynx and a few parts of episodes.
>Pokemon got more backlash and even then the most it did was censor Jynx and a few parts of episodes
I'll check those quads while you check these breasts
Would
>"The Power Rangers"
>Digimon are Mechanized
Why are journalists allergic to being correct about anything?
>Why are journalists allergic to being correct about anything?
You can write whatever bullshit you can think of and get paid for it. We do it here all the time but they get paid decent money and most people think they are bastions of honesty and truth.
>one of the first things in the article is description of Vegeta jobbing
HAHAHAHAHA
BEJITA ALWAYS A JOBBER
honestly, why did they put so many satanic references in the show? japs aren't even christians, it doesn't make sense
Majin/Makyouka ("demons") are very common stuff in japanese folklore. They have nothing to do with christianity.
I see. Thanks!
cause its funny and if you really believe in god it shouldnt concern you unless you think jap cartoons are more powerful
>characters age
Father Time, the greatest hitman of all
no clickbait articles didnt really have the same affect they do now
There was this teen guy in Spain who killed both his parents and her sister with down syndrome with a katana and because he kinda had a similar hair with Squall and liked the game the media blamed the game.
The news literally said he did it following instructions of the game and that the weapon was identical, it demonized Final Fantasy in many homes.
He's now free, married with a fangirl and has a kid.
Media has always been bullshit, wich is boomers are so fricked up, they got it 24h all their life
Was there ever any panics in Japan about violent American shows or movies?
80s was a weird time
Is this possible in real life?
Yes, girls are icky smoochy monsters
Avoid women, it's not worth the risk.
Source?
Shin Majinden Battle Royal High School
I can save her
Context? Is she actually aware of killing the guy or was she some kind of demon?
No because they don't have moronic Karen Christian moms.
I'd find it hard to believe no Japanese parents thought shit like Ren and Stimpy or Cow and Chicken was disturbing and inappropriate if they imported those.
That Otaku Murderer guy, I guess, since he had a huge mix of Japanese and imported stuff.
In Finland there was a politician who tried to ban Dragon Ball in 2003 as "child porn".
why, because of goku's pp? It's literally just a "U"
Pretty much because of the nudity, yeah.
just imagine what he had on his computer to sperg that much
>controversial
Did women always exist in human history?
Petty isn't a new word.
Doesn't Japan hate violence though? All the gory M-rated video games always get censored over there
censorship in japan is such bullshit mess, doesnt make sense most of the time and its just the result of burocratic laws on top of each other as no japanese politicians wants to be the one to strip the censorship.
this is why laws should always expire and be voted again
Not really, though I did have a friend who's mom wouldn't let him watch captain planet because it was too violent. Nobody cared about DBZ.
That's how boring the news was back then. They'd just cling to anything, especially the "protect the children!!!" angle
But watching R&S was much better?
Every generation has to learn that manufactured controversy is a thing. It's forgotten by the next generation and they have to learn it all over again.
This pic goes hard as hell btw. Just look at it.
whats this suposed to be?
Gohan Blanco
>Was DBZ really this controversial in the late 90s/early 2000s?
'Might Morphin' Power Rangers' got more shit than 'Dragonball (it takes me an entire episode to charge an energy ball) Z'
>he never played pretend dragon ball z on the playground until someone inevitably got the shit beat out of them
Me and my friends made a DBZ themed Monopoly board in 3rd grade and the teacher laminated it for us.
I just remember a bunch of us got in trouble for playing pretend when the btas kid brought some batarangs to use in our fights.
Said batarangs was sharp ass ninja stars
>kid charging up his kamehameha
>couple power rangers kids striking a pose
>spiderman kids swinging around the money bars
>batman kid chunks a batarang at the kid charging his kamehameha missing him but sticking it into the tree right next to where the teacher was sitting almost nailing her in the side of the head
We didn't get playground time for a month
Public school is child abuse.
The west made their own violent and unsettling child content back in the late 80s and early 90s too, so it wasn't just a Japanese thing. The issue was however, it tended to be met with mixed results. The Transformers movie for example was really dark and upset a lot of children
It can be hard to find the sweet spot on how far you can push before children's media becomes too grim for the target age group. It is safer for companies to just sanitize everything for kids and lock anything that is remotely scary, or violent, into much higher age brackets
Teaching kids about stuff like death or disease seemed like something that a fair amount of shows wanted to do more back then than today, although it's not like I watch them today so I can't say for sure. I wonder how a show like David the Gnome would be seen today.
I remember my mother was wary of David the Gnome because of all of the evil spirits, warlocks, demons and trolls that were in it. She begrudgingly allowed it, seeing that the underlining message of the stories were valuable. I also really loved Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics and that show had a lot of scary looking creatures, devils and violence in it. I got frightened watching it on several occasions, hiding behind the living room chair at the scariest parts, but found it fascinating and the stories were wonderful
I strongly recommend Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics for anyone who has children. You might even enjoy the stories more than your children do in the moment, but they won't forget them
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My mom was pretty open minded about this kind of thing thankfully.
Kids and adults really look at this stuff differently I think, or rather adults think kids look at it and are more fragile than they really are. Or maybe kids are just too dumb to make connections in their head over such things. Secret of NIMH, All Dogs go to Heaven, Bambi and Lion King and other stuff I can't remember are all things I'm happy to have experienced as a kid, but I have to wonder if it would be seen as damaging and a bad influence by bored online people now.
The Grimm's Fairy Tale anime stuff is definitely good material for sure. I never got to see it as a kid, but I do remember Nickelodeon did had some anime in its early morning kid's block in the early 90s that I enjoyed, but I'm not sure if it had any great lessons like that.
>I do remember Nickelodeon did had some anime in its early morning kid's block in the early 90s that I enjoyed, but I'm not sure if it had any great lessons like that.
Yeah, there were a few others like The Noozles, Maya the Bee, Adventures of the Little Koala, and The Littl' Bits, off the back of my head. I liked them all, though they didn't have anything close to the life lessons and entertainment value of Grimm's Fairy Tale Classics, which I suppose is fair, since they are based off of the Brother's Grimm stories. The others were more standard children's shows, but still quite enjoyable
Damn, I remember all of those shows. Crazy. I wonder if I can track any of those down online.
>because of all of the evil spirits, warlocks, demons and trolls that were in it
Do American evangelicals really believe in this shit? Like that time when they said Harry Potter promotes witchcraft, as if it was a real thing. Do they also want to ban Grimm tales?
What does believing in something have to do with not wanting to look at unsettling imagery?
>Last week, Dragon Ball Z ranked as the fifth-most-requeste...
>Last week, Dragon Ball Z
>gay super shit
>dragonballz
DB threads here are always comfy. On Cinemaphile they are bottom of the barrel trash
>six to 11 year olds - the demographic group most coveted by children's advertisers
>Even the U.S. Navy is running macho recruitment ads at the end of the show.
Grim.
Upside it had the opposite effect.
>Betty ~~*Cohen*~~ defending Dragon Ball
>~~*Hasbro*~~ and ~~*Mattel*~~ are sniffing around as advertisers
>US Army looking to get in there too
Figures the israelite will try to get as much money and influence as possible and take advantage of the situation, regardless of what is going on
>"Gundam" is a tale of bad guys from outer space"
Zeongays, your answer?
Western parents having a fit when Dragon Ball came on were not in the wrong. Shit got really grim in that show
>Kid watching Dragon Ball
>Take a quick glance at it as you pass
>Child in the show just got kicked in his head and now he's twitching uncontrollably with a broken neck
Even Japan isn't willing to show too much violence in Dragon Ball anymore. In Dragon Ball Super, blood is extremely limited and any violence against women is dumbed down severely, despite an abundance of female fighters this time around in the spotlight. With Caulifla and Kale, you won't see fists ever directly connect into their faces, or their stomachs. The camera will pan away before the impact. Scenes like Videl getting her teeth kicked in, stomach punched until her organs are leaking blood from her mouth, crying with her head stepped on, etc, is unthinkable now. Japan will of course still draw that sort of thing, but they put it on adult channels late at night, as far from time slots for kids as possible
And that's why Dragon Ball Super sucks. Infantile animation style, infantile behavior from the characters, infantile plot, infantile "violence." You can plainly see that Toriyama did it deliberately with his new series of them literally being diaper-shitting babies.
I still can't believe that's real.
dragon ball super is gay homosexual shit with troony colors, who cares
>aging is worse than getting blown up with dynamite and thrown off a cliff
No. The western version was completely censored anyway.
no. but israelites viciously attack forign products to protect their own interests. gen-x parents go along with it because otherwise they would have to take responsibility for being absentee parents, and then they might realize that isnt their fault either because the reason both parents have to work is because of the same israelites that are telling them the cartoons are to blame.
it's lead poisoning. new gen is getting microplastic which makes them soft, and stupid, but lead poisoning makes someone not only stupid, but angry, and stupid. any gen exposed to lead like their generation is RUINED.
In my day it was Atari games and heavy metal. Remember this article when some homosexual is screaming
>what’s the matter with kids today?!?
No. I went to a hard-core Christian school that banned Pokémon and Yugioh, but kids imitating DBZ was fine.
No, but Fist of the North Star was controversial and the French TV station abruptly stopped airing it before the end. Also apparently the dub cast rebelled and introduced all sorts of ridiculous easter eggs to the translation because they found the original show so ridiculous.
europe is such a shit hole
I heard they rewrote the whole script to be a comedy and lessen the impact of the violence. So imagine growing up with Hokuto as some dopey comedy cartoon, and later on finding out it was a serious story that got raped in translation.
Translation and localization does a lot of damage. Take Frieza, for example. In Japanese, he's a very polite and well-spoken nobleman. In English however, he's very crass and rude. The west still depict him this way in English for whatever reason. It isn't incompetence, it is a deliberate decision that hurts Frieza's character
Italian kids in the '80s and '90s grew up watching Fist of the North Star, and it wasn't a big deal. I don't even remember any major protests from parents associations or something like that.
But in the early 2000s there was a controversy about Dragonball for the supposedly inappropriate sexual content. The usual "children exposed to violence is totally ok, anything sexual is a big no-no" approach.
Dragonball was definitely sexually inappropriate by today's standards: 16yo tomboy goes around showing her bobs and vegana to perverted old men, lets boy sleep with her, watch her bathe, etc. The first volume of Dragonball would probably land you in jail if you published that in 21st century America.
Inb4 Goku was actually a "teenager".
We never even got as far as something like DBZ airing on TV. The discussions were led about Pokemon which in the end was aired with a PG-13 rating.
Waku Waku
The French and French Canadian had access to the manga and anime like 10 frickin years before Mexicans and Americans, and the anti-Japanese anime panic was even more pronounced back then since it was also around the time of the "violence in video games" moral panic against games like Doom and Mortal Kombat.
Unless it was Stallone or Schwarzenegger killing Palestinians in action movies - that was totally cool and family friendly violence.
Even Power Rangers, which for us was around the same time as us Frenchies & Canadian Frenchies reading the Cell Arc in the manga but for Americans would be way before their release of anything Dragon ball, was considered as ultra violent garbage that was corrupting our youth.
Even the Ninja Turtles went through heavy editing and censorship where they couldn't use or show nunchuks in the cartoon nevermind using swords, and them not being called Ninjas in England and also Germany I believe but rather "heroes"
Zoomers' parents were barely conceived at the time so zoomers themselves will never know of the anti-Japanese sentiment found in the West when Japan was seemingly set to conquer the world economically
I think with the nunchaku, it was due to them just being really dangerous, poorly understood weapons. Kids wanted to go to karate schools specifically to learn those things because Mikey was just too cool with them. Then you add in kids making make-shift ones, swinging things around the house and the parents had simply had enough of it. It wasn't too different than Beavis not talking about fire anymore because it was encouraging kids to start burning things. In fact, if I recall right, one kid actually burned his house down
Well that was the excuse for everything for a while. If some kid got fricked up in a school fight in the 1980s they would somehow blame it on Hulk Hogan. In the 1970s if kids broke their legs falling off a tree or something they would be blaming it on these brand new Superman movies.
But guns? uhhhhh no, that's somehow totally different
It is no secret that little Jamal sees Big Hood Nignog the rapper, waving a gun around and feels inspired to copy him. The media just doesn't bother to talk about it, for reasons
The US had the ocean dub of dbz probably by 93 or 94 playing on tv on Saturday mornings. Cant remember the channel (tbs, wb,) but it at least went through the sayian saga and right to the start of the Namek saga.
Imagine the person who wrote this realizing that not even thirty years later, 12-year-olds would be en masse uploading petabytes of videos showing them shaking their bare asses on TikTok every day of the year nonstop. How would they cope?
It's fricking grim how far gone things are. Back in the very very early days of Youtube we weren't allowed to borrow the camcorder to make videos unless we covered our faces up like fricking Taliban fighters. Now you're not only encouraged but required to use your real first and last name on certain platforms, and attach that to all the content you're making. Growing up I refused to even give out my real first name online.
Yeah, some people even thought Pokemon and Yugioh represented the devil, but it wasn't super common at least in my area of the US. The kids who weren't allowed to watch it were an exception to the rule and see as weird. There was one family out of dozens in my neighborhood who thought Ed, Edd, n Eddy specifically was "a bunch of japanese mind control crap", but otherwise all the other kids loved DBZ and traded Pokemon cards.
Yeah also this, I forgot how so much of the American resentment of new Japanese media was less of an anti-violence angle but moreso just that card games and cartoon bugs represent witchcraft and the devil.
>card games and cartoon bugs represent witchcraft and the devil
Parents were wary about letting their kids get into what looked like some gypsy shit. This was a big concern with Harry Potter too. Most of those concerns were validated. Harry Potter is truly a blight on humanity and brought absolutely nothing worthwhile to literature or otherwise
>a blight on humanity
what did harry potter do? create covid in the wuhan labs?
The worst that Potter did was infantilize morality and politics down to "My team is Gryffindor and your team is Slytherin."
I mean that was always the case. At least in America, you're either a Demoncrat or a Rapepublican, a antifa or a nazi, a incel or a troony, etc etc etc.
good, bad, etc. etc.
You're not American esl. We can see your ip moron lmao
demonrat*
rethuglican*
>be 10 years old big into pokemon
>oldest sister in late 20s suddenly gets big into religion
>joins a church promoting praying the japanese demons out of these kids
>tells parents I shouldn't be watching pokemon, digimon, monster rancher because demonic monsters
>they lolwut at her
>we stop in a piggly wiggly parking lot one day and she tries to exorcise the pokemon demons out of me
>10 year old self is taking the piss and laughing my ass off
>dont tell mom
>tell mom and dad
>20 plus years later and I still give her shit for those years where she went full moron into religion
based sister, don't give money to greedy japs
american made only
In Peru they used to show evangelion and south park after school because the channel assumed cartoon = kid friendly. A celebrity show (think extra) ran a report on it and there was a huge controversy.
I remember that, Magaly TV. Her show js still running. She also ran some piece on Pokemon.
My mom wouldn’t let me watch it but that was mostly because she thought all the yelling and screaming was annoying
It was EVERYTHING!....everything...
homie we used to power up in the rain and shit lol Doing fusion dances. Good times.
The only real correct outrage was aimed at Yu-Gi-Oh, if you look back into the name of the cards and shit, that stuff was definetely edgy, satanic and way out of line for a christian family to allow their kids to be influenced by.
>Know little about Yi-Gi-Oh
>Go israelitegle some of the cards
I see why the parents weren't happy. A lot of these cards are very grim, or sexualized, or both. The names alone can be bad enough, but then the pictures to go with them really add to the issue
>oh my god someone call the President we can't have our kids exposed to the equivalent of Halloween decorations all year round
its not just that though. The game is centered around summoning creatures, sacrificing monsters, with cards like dark magician, witch of the forest, skull servant, old entity.
That completed with artifacts of ancient egypt and trapped souls and what not. Christian backlash was justified.
And mind you that the show was marketed to kids, just like pokemon.
None of it was anti-Christian though.
Like I said it's the same as being scared that the booberry ghost or jack o lantern on halloween or mary shelley's frankenstein's monster is also going somehow steal your soul
Which ironically some American Christians also believe.
its not about being scared tho, read this post again, it's not just 'jack o lantern' shit.
I'm sorry but is there a part of the bible I'm missing where it says that goblins and wizards are real?
They were shitting themselves over MtG a few years prior, and before that with Dungeons & Dragons.
I mean if all the kids who played whatever card game between the 1980s and today all grew up to be able to throw real life magic spells around like some Skyrim mage that'd be cool.
Why are you adding points and moving the goalposts?
It's not "goblins and wizards", the game has you summoning demons, magicians and spells.
Are you moronic? Christians families were justified in their backlash, Yu-Gi-Oh was way more popular than D&D or MtG, it had an anime and it aired on kid hours on TV.
Do you understand the main point or did it fly through your head?
>the game has you summoning demons, magicians and spells.
Yeah.... but no. Because it's a game.
Like I said it's like someone emptied a Halloween Party store into a bag and shook it up with a sprinkle of Egyptian mythology and out came the Yu Gi Oh cards.
and with Pokemon cards where even is the argument in that? They also said that Pokemon were demons.
Who said anything about pokemon, who's "they"?
you either have ADHD or you can't stick to discussing the main point, which is families not wanting their kids to be influenced by certain stuff, like games where you summon demons, spells and sacrifice creatures.
Lmao pokemon, you have poor comprehension skills
>Who said anything about pokemon, who's "they"?
I said something about pokemon and "they" are American Christians in their never ending satanic panic
the game has you summoning demons, magicians and spells.
I knew it! I knew I could have had my own succubus if my DM had let me have that level up!
Here's your succubus bro. Hope it was worth it.
have a nice day or die if you think the early israeli-go card were too much for kids.
The only reason they sensored cards was religious or cleavage anyways, die c**t.
shut up you spastic moron, get a grip
They already removed guns, blood and cleavage and invented the Shadow Realm as an alternative to death and it's still considered edgy?
Yugioh's first anime series literally had a parody of the masons that was ran by 10000 year old wizard king from atlantis trying to bring back his dark leviathan god to judge the world. it's by far the most heavy handed about esoteric bullshit and nonsense for decades.
It's full of occult stuff
>dunks on Vegeta by alluding he's a b***h, same for Krillin
>calls Goku the (our) HERO
In another life, Sally would definitely post in /dbs/
More like Salty Beatty.
I recall more of a moral panic with pokemon, dbz wasnt really a thing adults cared about back then.
With pokemon mania it was huge, you had christians being mad kids were being taught about evolution lol
When my youth pastor started talking about how Pokemon was le bad, it was the first time I started thinking something an adult was telling me was bullshit. I was always a good goy up til then but there was no way I was going to stop playing/watching Pokemon just because that prick said so.
I remember my school said needing badges to make them obey was alluding to using relics to make demons obey commands.
The evolution thing was really dumb to get held up on since it's really your pokemon growing up. Evolving just sounds cooler.
Anon, those strict boomer parents don't even compare to the blue haired whales from California, youd be surprised, theres way more censorship nowdays
west memphis three and the mcmartin preschool staff would disagree
How does 2 tragedies linked to satanic rituals make boomer parents worse than SJWs?
Both those events were basically the result of hysteria. The mcmartin stuff especially.
anime and manga are superior to anything Burgerkistan can shit every day.
It's over really, Cinemaphile is Cinemaphile's b***h.
There was nothing like DBZ on American TV back in 1998.
christcucks will seethe about magic the gathering and pokemon and then donate money to israel and cheer bombing weddings n shiet
Stupid Karens were a thing back then too. Politicians like Hillary Clinton liked to pretend that GTA games were going to make more school shootings happen.
https://www.eurogamer.net/news290305clinton
>neighbors were christian
>couldn't watch dbz
>his mom got mad i told him what happened
Which one was bigger at it's peak in America, Naruto or DBZ?
DBZ was and still is bigger, Naruto is more foreign
probably naruto. i didn't go to the mall after 2006 but it's peak must have been huge. it came out at the right time where the internet let you have the next exciting episode right away on a streaming site.
You're underestimating just how massive DBZ was in the late 90s/ early 00s
>Tenchi Meyo
>Is a story of a ladies man caught up in an interstellar war
As a longtime Tenchigay, this hurts me on a spiritual level.
That would be funny if I'd heard it 25 years ago
i'm partial to the religious being against pokemon having evolutions, zelda games having magic, and cowboy bebop at his computer
There might have been a bigger fuss if they had moved quick enough for it to reach the part where he actually marries 7 women all at once.
Instead it just seemed like "Betty & Veronica, but Archie has a lightsaber".
>cowboy bebop at his computer
What do you mean?
Grandma called DBZ my soaps and it's true.
>that religious woman that gives 1/10 ratings to magical girl shows on imdb because they promote magic
These still exist.
Doubt
https://www.imdb.com/review/rw8121807/?ref_=tt_urv
>Two reviews
>Precure bad
>Powerpuff Girls good
>Obey Jehova video good
>Jehova's Witness
Not sure if parody account or not. The beliefs seem inconsistent, even giving that account the benefit of the doubt that it is genuine
What about Legend of the overfiend and legend of the demon womb? They were very graphic.
It was very graphic, but Urotsukidôji wasn't aimed at children
The news in my country did a report where they said all hentai was for pedos and counted as very illegal CP while showing barely censored scenes. The girl had a literal fertility goddess (aka not underage) body.
Their "damning" proof was that one of the servers (for paid hentai, no less) was in America while the domain was registered elsewhere.
I saw this report as a teenager and it was the first time I realized that the news are literally fricking moronic.
Do you live in the UK, or South Korea?
Quebec, Canada. The news channel in question is pretty much french FOX but everyone trusts it for some reaaon.
This was a really long time ago but I kinda had to hide my anime habits after that.
Discovering DBZ as a kid was like a caveman discovering fire.
>at Suncoast in the mall
>nah mom it’s just like DBZ but they just fight bugs or something
I saw this in 2001 when I was only 9
I was really fricking confused
What a horrid haircut on that guy.
Soccer mom's and religious moral crusaders were at their peak in the 90's. Thankfully most people just laughed in their faces and told them to frick off.
Good riddance, we are finally living in a perfect world without them... oh
It's got fricking cancelled in my country at the very beginning of the Android saga. It was a day of national tragedy for all kids of my age group. We even signed petitions in school for it to return.
My parents hated it when I watched DBZ every morning before school. They tried to change the channel to make me see safer content a few times but they gave up very quickly.
It was banned in my country because some moron jumped out the window and died. The article is about childrens protesting against te ban
>FUGGETLEN :DDD
Moral panics can occur around anything. Like "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles" with nunchuks edited out. Swords, bo-staff etc were fine but nunchuks and throwing stars were part of the "ninja weapon" panic.
Over half, if not all of those goobers that bought chucks never knew how to actually use them. I bet there was a lot of black eyes and bloody noses.
No, everyone loved it. It was just the right wing Christians trying to make an issue of it and no one cared or told them to shut the frick up. Just like how they attacked vidya.