>was 'forced' to watch the last few Marvel movies because of relatives
>found them to be ok at best
>give pic related a chance
>actually like it
>it was directed by Sam Raimi too
Anyone else feels like this was just overall better than their other movies?
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>forced
OP here, I do mean it when I said that. They literally pointed a gun at my head and forced me to watch the movies
ALSO OP here. they shoved bamboo shutes up my urethra and forced me to watch swedish fish get tortured to death
OP here, just want to clarify. The bamboo up the urethra wasn't forced, I asked them to do it
Did it feel good?
OP literally had no other choice. His family offered him gitmo torture or MCU. It was a hard choice but in the end he chose mcu
This was the best one I've seen by a good margin, funny how the marvel fanboys consider this one of the lesser movies.
Spot the contrarian anon
I'm being honest though, this was way better than the other MCU movies although I may need to rewatch the Iron Man where his house blows up because I remember really liking that one too.
there is no difference between this and other marvel flicks though, you are just being biased
I liked the Raimi horror elements in this one and I thought the villain and hero were better than they usually are in these flicks.
Marvel flicks should have more necromancy scenes
the cloak of souls was really cool
kino
There were a lot of moments I didn't like about the movie, but this was really cool and caught me off guard.
Best part of the whole film for me
Easily the best part of the film. Pure Raimi comic kino, just having fun.
Same thing happened with Iron Man 3. Shitting on Shane Black Kino for something that every marvel movie does, IM 3 actually feels unique because of the director.
Sure Raimi's direction shined though somewhat, though it was no where near the quality of his hay day, but it was in service of a dogshit script. Okay direction by a kino director can't save a horrible dumpster fire of a script.
>We need to explain characters backstories
>Have them stand on a thing that makes their backstories project holographically in the middle of the street
>Brilliant, now what is her tragic backstory?
>She saw a bee and caused a portal to open, killing her moms.
>Moms? Plural?
>moms
Dude the movie had too many issues in the script and there were too many cringe moments like that music battle, I don't see how the girl having two moms would even be an issue compared to the other stuff.
Bad bait, try harder
It has a consistent theme that it stuck to throughout. It would have been really good if it didnt have all of the unnecessary blacks, lesbians and women. One thing that was very key that a lot of movies miss nowadays is that strange and wanda both wanted the same thing; A hero and a villain are supposed to represent the two halves of a human being. To go off on a tangent, thats whats so stupid about “grey characters.” All stories are about the conflict of the human heart, its not a new concept at all. Frick george rr martin.
>Anyone else feels like this was just overall better than their other movies?
I think it had multiple moments that trounce most of their other movies; but as a whole it was pretty meh to me.
It has soul, it's creative and fun and the villain is actually powerful and a real threat this time. So yeah, great movie. Not a fan of Marvel movies in general.
I kinda loved it.
It was just the right tone, some of the narrative within the scenes felt clunky, learning about what they intended for certain scenes like the Illuminati and how it was changed explained some of it to me. I was so happy to see that mashup of Dr. Strange trippy with Raimi horror.
Am I mistaken or does Wanda speak in an American accent when under the influence of the Darkhold and then her own weird one when she comes out? The whole movie I was bothered by her lack of accent, like it was some lazy miss, then she has her accent in the climactic scenes as if she was herself again. Is Olsen just inconsistent about it and I missed it?
Wanda doesn't have her accent anymore.
I kinda loved it.
It was just the right tone, some of the narrative within the scenes felt clunky, learning about what they intended for certain scenes like the Illuminati and how it was changed explained some of it to me. I was so happy to see that mashup of Dr. Strange trippy with Raimi horror.
Am I mistaken or does Wanda speak in an American accent when under the influence of the Darkhold and then her own weird one when she comes out? The whole movie I was bothered by her lack of accent, like it was some lazy miss, then she has her accent in the climactic scenes as if she was herself again.
For the whole movie.
But she had it again after America fools her into being evil in front of the kids.
>Is Olsen just inconsistent about it and I missed it?
She's never been able to maintain the accent, and has complained publically about it. They're just glossing over it like Costner in Robin Hood.
Princess Leia does the same in new hope. At first she attempts to speak like how burgers think aristocratic english speak. After alderaan blows up she suddenly turns in to a plucky burger girl
The only good parts of this was the illuminati jobbing scene
I enjoyed it. It was a bit long, but it was Raimi doing a Marvel movie. For better or worse.
The 2016 movie is better storywise, you kind need to watch Wandavision to fully understand the 2022 movie, it is entertaining but too predictable kinda
MoM has almost no connection to WandaVision.
moron, the whole plot point of her fake kids is 100% from WandaVision and isn't mentioned anywhere else.
No one cares about her fake kids.
Literally the entire plot of MoM is based on them, moron. Go be a wrong neckbeard in another thread, dummy.
The first film has a solid cast for an MCU movie. It's one of the few with a good third act too. The time reversal fight and Strange stalemating Dormammu were both creative sequences. Unfortunately the way they used the magic looked uninspired and the Inception stuff was a bit overdone. Raimi makes Strange's magic a little more interesting in the sequel.
I just watched it and it's definitely one of the better Marvel movies. The Dr. Strange movies in general are some of the more fun ones IMO because they're a bit crazier and often go into themes that are less classic superhero science fiction and more fantasy. The multiverse is an interesting concept in itself and it's done alright. Scarlet Witch, while annoying with her constant muh children, is a genuine threat and virtually can't be beaten, necromancy Strange was kino but too short, Wanda getting punched in the face was pretty good, wacky multiverse effects were cool, music fight with sinister Strange was well done. It's still a very predictable Marvel movie and ultimately safe, simple, and for consooming, but at least it's entertaining.
It has a couple fun scenes but most of it was very bad.
you don't have to like it just because your favorite reddit director made it
Sam Raimi isn't Reddit tier
It feels like one of the movies that had a lot of scenes cut rewrote . It really had substance at some parts , I bet there was more
They started filming this, and reshoots continued into 2022. They blamed it on the coof, but you know they rewrote the script multiple times. I'm betting the whole multiverse Dr. X and Jim from the Office were last minute additions.
remove America Chavez and the movie is kino
Why were people saying this one is gonna be dark and almost a horror flick? it was just slightly better cape shit.
i skimmed it and it was better than i was expecting, cummerbund, wong, olsen and america chavez's actor are just very bad
with better casting the plot could have been a lot more fun, it's like if aquaman had been full of shitters like amber heard
It has flaws, but I'll certainly remember it more than almost every other entry.
The main problem with this movie is that it's advertised as a cool multiverse adventure when it's actually a Sam Raimi creepy evil magic movie.
That's not a problem at all. Multiverse is moronic.
It felt like more of an actual film than most MCU movies. But I wish it was more standalone. Ones that I think are actually well made are;
>Captain America First Avenger
>Incredible Hulk
>Thor
>Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2
>Doctor Strange
I don't love all of these but they generally took more risks or had better cinematography than the majority of other MCU entries. In terms of shows I liked Agent Carter, Daredevil and thought WandaVision and Loki had some good moments, Loki definitely looks pretty nice, not as cheap feeling.
>shitloads of Raimi Evil Dead references all in that movie
>classic Raimi weird shots, music & noises
What's not to like, outside Strange being such a pussy, he didn't do a Spidey 3 dance number?
There was a scene where the eye monster looked into the office building and you see the people reacting, pure raimi, but it was missing a woman screaming
Watched half of it so far and it's abysmally awful. Surprisingly very poor from the directorial pov, I assumed I'd give it a chance for Raimi but other than Bruce Campbell's cameo it's completely nondescript, terribly acted etc
I think the second half is substantially better (except for the Illuminati fight, that was definitely one of the worst parts of the movie)
I watched this and honestly I don't know how to feel.
It's fun, and I like that so many crazy shit happened considering it's a mainstream movie, but I had too many problems with the movie.
First, there were too many cringe moments, like that one scene where they battle with music notes, not surprising for the man who directed siperman 3 though.
Also, the pace felt too fast, it felt like you had no time to process what was happening, because something else was already happening.
Wanda's powers felt inconsistent, she's just as powerful as the script needs it to be (honestly this happens in every superhero movie with a really powerful villian, like thanos and apocalypse).
And the plot was kinda meh, a lot of stuff that happened didn't feel justified enough.
I felt in a similar way with NWH, maybe that's just how Marvel movies are nowadays. Maybe I outgrown my Marvel phase already and should accept that I'm not in their target audience anymore.
There were some truly fantastic scenes, like strange fighting himself with music or him dream walking, but by and large this movie was shit. Woke bullshit nonstop, cringe worthy dialog, ridiculously forced plot points. Just really bad over all.
>like strange fighting himself with music
How is this a fantastic scene? I thought it was so stupid.
>Woke bullshit nonstop
The movie has way too many issues, her being latina and having two moms is not one of them, grow up.
It was pretty unique in style and direction, which I liked.
It was the best MCU movie outside of maybe Avengers. The right wing social justice warriors hated it because they literally can't think beyond surface level political comparisons. The themes of hubris just completely went over their heads, Wanda being clearly evil and corrupted by magic is something they interpreted as a yas kween moment despite the whole movie being clearly anti-wanda, and the manchildren were upset that a guy who stretches lost to someone with the ability to manipulate reality at will. Raimi made the best MCU movie but it came out at a time where everyone has already consigned themselves to turning off their brains during capeshit.
When Professor X came out with the x-men cartoons theme song, i actually fricking lost it
the sheer pandering is depressing, but still funny
Same happened to me when captain carter said "I could do this all day", I rolled my eyes so fricking much, it feels so forced.
Yet I know there are some people looking like pic related going crazy at these "references".
Exactly how I felt. Best marvel movie I've seen since avengers probably
>Best marvel movie I've seen since avengers
I can only imagine how utterly dreadful the worst ones are
It has no sense of pace and the actors give the impression of not having rehearsed even once. The Latina chick seems to have been a random cashier they picked up on the street and said hey, wanna be in a Marvel movie?
Honestly without Raimi's direction this would've been unbearable.
Wanda is the best character in the MCU, and the closes thing they have to a proper anti-hero
>starts off evil, working with Ultron
>change of heart
>blew up a bunch of Wakandans (lol how quaint, remember when this was a big deal??)
>is mostly good now but on the run, fell in love
>had to kill the man she loves, all for nothing
>enslaved Westview
>realized the error of her ways... or did she?
>turned full villain in Dr Strange 2, butchered Kamar Taj and the Illuminati
>sacrifices herself in the end... or did she?
I hope we get more of her. it's obvious Lizzy Olsen loves playing her and is down for more.
best scene from the movie
I wanted to try Disney Plus for a while now, so I finally got it with the excuse to watch this and let my girlfriend watch some stuff too.
The movie was shit, so now I'm browsing the home thinking what else should I watch, and everything seems shit.
Can you guys recommend me something? Anything at all.
Watch Lion King or Ratatouille.
Yeah Ratatouille sounds cool actually, never watched it.
Maybe I'll watch of all the Pixar movies I haven't watched.
Coco is good, ignore /misc/tards
It's ok, there's far better ones out there.
Seconding Ratatouille
If Wanda can warp reality, why doesn't she just instantly kill everyone in her path?
Yeah unfortunately marvel movies tend to have the character's power level all over the place
It's almost as if letting directors with a style and vision actually express themselves makes for better movies
It was shallow as shit and written so bluntly a monkey couldn't have a problem, but the Raimi that shone through was honestly really fun