Was he really that bad of an antagonist?

Was he really that bad of an antagonist? Will a recast make you more or less interested in what they do with the character?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    time travel shenanigans is a really dumb plot armor because it's OP

    "oh you think you have defeated me!? well i already traveled through time to keep that from happening!"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Sp012FJ.jpeg

      Was he really that bad of an antagonist? Will a recast make you more or less interested in what they do with the character?

      I don't hate the way he's been portrayed so far, particularly in Loki S2, but I am at a fricking loss to understand why they thought Kang was a good antagonist for an entire phase and Dormammu wasn't, when they basically have the same impossibly tough power sets

      it's not that it can't work - the original FF vs Galactus works because of a one-time bluff that Reed would rather die on his own terms, but "to me my Galactus" doesn't work because it's a gay as shit power fantasy where the original is a no-win situation with a stressful ending - or even that they'd already done the one-time gag with Dormammu in the MCU, it's that it's such a total mismatch with what we'd already seen and what was still coming out

      Quantumania dealt with Kang pretty well and would have been fine as the sole appearance of the character, maybe even better received for being the sole appearance

      Kang doesn't really have any great runs and is in print just a one-trick pony like Apocalypse or Sinister or frickin Absorbing Man or something, he shows up, gets beat up, and leaves, so between the absurd step up to that power level for the MCU and the fact someone seriously thought Kang Dynasty - even the name - was worth doing? get fricked

      Kang Dynasty is from the point at which the Avengers were dying as a print franchise, it is like the worst thing you could draw attention to, Avengers Forever would have been a better punt

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate to be part of the echo chamber, but Doom should have been the obvious choice. They could have immediately set it up in Falcon and Winter Soldier by the end by revealing the Flag Smashers originated in Latveria. Like, have that as a post-credit of the show. People would have gone fricking apeshit (in a good way)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Time Travel nonsense is death to any plot line, worse than multiverses.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't he get his ass beat in every movie?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So far all we've seen in action is a nutjob "good" Kang who wanted to die, and the marooned Kang in Quantumania that had limited resources

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My interest remains zero.
    He should have been in the first Avengers.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People shit on his ending for being overrun by a thousands of giant ants, but thousands of giant ants would be difficult to defeat for anyone especially if blind-sighted. Where they actually fricked up was but not raising the stakes. Kang should have killed either Janet or Hank to drop more of an emotional anchor and show “oh frick here’s what evil Kang is capable of, that’s how badly he wants to win”.

    Also John David Washington is apparently the choice to replace Majors, and I think that will be based as frick

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I wasn't bothered by Kang being overwhelmed by a swarm of ants. In fact there's this look he gives Hank where it implies he remembers a similar Ant-Man he may have defeated in the past.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ants are addicted to sugar and easy to control, like all junkies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is not impressive and does not really give that feeling of ominous dread that he is coming like they played up with Thanos.

      >First appearance, is immediately killed, and not in some epic amazing way, just stabbed while sitting at a desk
      >Second appearance, quickly defeated by large ants, did not look impressive. He just had little wrist lasers
      >Third appearance, was a stuttering weirdo that spent most of his time running away and scared, we saw him killed a few thousand times

      on top of the fact that we saw that all of his technology was stolen from some scifi writer he kidnapped and put to work in his time basement. Nothing about him really seems very next big bad for the universe to me. He's coming off more like a Bob the Hydra Agent type of guy that happens to be on the ground near some bigger events but when he runs into a hero he gets his ass kicked. But the next event, he is around there for some reason all over again.

      Why wasn't the villain in Quantumania Psycho Man?

      Actually comes from the Microverse
      Wears almost the exact same armor with more green
      Actually fought Ant-Man in the past
      Being defeated by ants does not make him look bad or ruin public opinion of the next phase villain

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kang was set to be the villain of ant man 3 way back before even talk of the “next big bad” was being talked about.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah he could have worked just the same as Kang for that movie.

        Kang was set to be the villain of ant man 3 way back before even talk of the “next big bad” was being talked about.

        Marvel basically planned the whole thing backwards

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remember when Mephisto was announced as the villain for MoM? Lol, now we get him in Iron Heart. I’m so confused.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Remember when Mephisto was announced as the villain for MoM?

            No, because it never happened.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It did, very early on.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He is not impressive and does not really give that feeling of ominous dread that he is coming like they played up with Thanos.

    >First appearance, is immediately killed, and not in some epic amazing way, just stabbed while sitting at a desk
    >Second appearance, quickly defeated by large ants, did not look impressive. He just had little wrist lasers
    >Third appearance, was a stuttering weirdo that spent most of his time running away and scared, we saw him killed a few thousand times

    on top of the fact that we saw that all of his technology was stolen from some scifi writer he kidnapped and put to work in his time basement. Nothing about him really seems very next big bad for the universe to me. He's coming off more like a Bob the Hydra Agent type of guy that happens to be on the ground near some bigger events but when he runs into a hero he gets his ass kicked. But the next event, he is around there for some reason all over again.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    should've just had Kang have his Earth's Mightiest Heroes backstory where he's conquering the past to save his future and the love of his life.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Replace the main villain Kang with any actor, then have Jonathan Majors Kang show up right at the end as a cameo; eg have Victor Timely show up as villain Kang dies. Timely went missing at the end of Loki S2 anyway.

    Majors shouldn't have his whole career ruined because of one psycho white woman.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the frick are you even talking about

      you mean the woman he was convicted of assaulting and sentenced to a year of rehab on probation? you fricking maroon

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah I mean the psycho white woman who made accusations against him that weren't held up in court but he was sentenced for being mildly aggressive upon exiting a cab. Not even a misdemeanor. Actors in the 90s and earlier were doing much worse without their careers suffering.

        And call me a slur again and I'll execute you.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah you mean the convicted criminal who happened to be accused by a white woman

          which is a weird thing for a white guy to point out, but there you go, frickwit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nooo the poor rich black man is being opressed by da white women!!!

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends of who they recast him with.

    If they pick somebody like this, I'm in 220%.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fun fact, Family Matters can’t get a full cast reunion because Harriet’s actress fricking hated Jaleel White

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A multiversal villain with infinite nearly identical also evil selves isn't a threat to anyone but the writers who have to reconcile that nonsense with the rest of a poorly written script.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Was he really that bad of an antagonist?
    no, it's just a bunch of loud doomsaying morons
    >Will a recast make you more or less interested in what they do with the character?
    I was always interested in the character and the actor is getting recasted anyway. this isn't new to the MCU and I don't know if I'll like Majors better than the new guy because there's no new guy yet.

    what I'll say is that Loki did a better job at showcasing Kang's potential as a big villain with his absolute control of the multiverse and the risks of going to battle against him. in Quantumania he was just the villain of THAT movie and was a good one, bodying everyone until he was completely overwhelmed. how is that a bad villain? only in the after credits scene you see that true potential shown in Loki. he's slowly being teased like Thanos was, the difference is that it's being done in the movies and Disney+ series

    the biggest problem lies with the audience's expectations, they think "multiverse" means X-Men and Fantastic Four but it goes further than those two, even if we have already seen them. Ta Lo, the Illuminati, the TVA, the Noor, the X-Men at the end of The Marvels, just like in Infinity Saga not every movie had a story centered around and infinity stone. the morons are just getting frustrated over learning there's more to the Marvel universe than Thanos and mutants.

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