Programmed 1's and 0's. She was just fufilling her main programming goal, but also did go above that. So she was a soulless robot, while K is just a manufactured human with limitations added on. But the human brain is pretty plastic so it adapts.
Her sacrifice and choice inspires him to make his own true choice rather than living as a slave. He dies a free man.
Death of an author. You are fulfilling your programming of being a useless sack of biogarbage, wasting away regurgitating useless misinterpretations that are nothing but projection of your own useless life, until you die. I always think it's unsurprising the cesspool of Cinemaphile misreads basic themes and character narrative over their head completely because you fundamentally misinterpret an emotion such as love, having never experienced it truly. Posts such as these is usually the domain of useless biomutants that regurgitate their own stupidity everywhere.
From a strict perspective, her love for K is a simulated emotion, not born out of personal experience or independent consciousness. However, within the context of the story, her love for K appears genuine and sincere. It is entirely subjective, as opposed to the free will counterpart of humans in regards to love, JOI simply is incapable of having unsimulated emotions. This ties into the major theme of the film and how it challenges the idea of what is "real." It suggests that emotions, experiences, and relationships can be real to the individuals who feel them, even if they are mediated through artificial means. Joi's love is real in the sense that it has a profound impact on K and shapes his experiences. It tries to explore and establish what it means to love and to be loved, something you desperately can simply never understand. Which is probably what has drawn you towards the movie in the first place. Joi's love, while artificial in origin, is explored as a representation of genuine emotional connection, demonstrating the human capacity to form deep bonds. Except that she is not human. K, experiences her love as real. His emotional connection with her has a significant impact on his character development and actions, highlighting the personal and subjective reality of his feelings. Her love isn't real but K chooses it to be real. Choice, a major human theme.
You're supposed to have sex with them before you turn 20 so you're more open to new experiences. If you wait until you're older than 20 to have sex for the first time, it's not going to be as pleasant.
She never had a choice. Her programming was set just the same up until she died. Only humans are capable of free will, that's why K's death is significant at the end.
If they could make sexbots that looked and acted like that you'd know the answer was yes. It just will never reach that level so there's no point thinking about it
When her little chip thingy is about to get smushed (or she's about to be killed, essentially) her last act is to say "I love you," seems a bit significant since that final statement contributed nothing to her self-preservation
There's probably some statement in there about how she, like a replicant, has a choice in her behavior, but to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy Blade Runner
I think this scene doesn't answer the question, it only serves the purpose to make K crumble and hurt him.
I don't think it answers the question if Joi was capable of "overcoming" her programming. That is basically the question of Blade Runner franchise. Rachael, and specially Roy and K, probably Deckard do overcome their programmings and prove to do "human acts", therefore becoming humans, although they initially weren't born.
If Joi was capable of truly loving K is something we don't know, just like you won't know if your girlfriend truly loves you.
So I don't think the question was answered.
the whole point of the big pink joi scene was that she was just following her programming. the advertisement calls him Joe, just like his personal unit did. he realizes she was just following her programming, and that's what inspires him to go against his and save deckard.
This is the only objective and true answer here. I'm not sure why you people keep bumping the thread expecting anything else out of this character, which really is for you nothing but an expectation of women as a whole. No. Here's your answer. Women are incapable of true love, unless it's their offspring and even that is not guaranteed. Now move on.
>literally programmed to fit your needs
gee I wonder
the incels here have never even experienced teenage love so why are you surprised that they legitimately consider an ai's love "real"?
Programmed 1's and 0's. She was just fufilling her main programming goal, but also did go above that. So she was a soulless robot, while K is just a manufactured human with limitations added on. But the human brain is pretty plastic so it adapts.
Her sacrifice and choice inspires him to make his own true choice rather than living as a slave. He dies a free man.
Death of an author. You are fulfilling your programming of being a useless sack of biogarbage, wasting away regurgitating useless misinterpretations that are nothing but projection of your own useless life, until you die. I always think it's unsurprising the cesspool of Cinemaphile misreads basic themes and character narrative over their head completely because you fundamentally misinterpret an emotion such as love, having never experienced it truly. Posts such as these is usually the domain of useless biomutants that regurgitate their own stupidity everywhere.
From a strict perspective, her love for K is a simulated emotion, not born out of personal experience or independent consciousness. However, within the context of the story, her love for K appears genuine and sincere. It is entirely subjective, as opposed to the free will counterpart of humans in regards to love, JOI simply is incapable of having unsimulated emotions. This ties into the major theme of the film and how it challenges the idea of what is "real." It suggests that emotions, experiences, and relationships can be real to the individuals who feel them, even if they are mediated through artificial means. Joi's love is real in the sense that it has a profound impact on K and shapes his experiences. It tries to explore and establish what it means to love and to be loved, something you desperately can simply never understand. Which is probably what has drawn you towards the movie in the first place. Joi's love, while artificial in origin, is explored as a representation of genuine emotional connection, demonstrating the human capacity to form deep bonds. Except that she is not human. K, experiences her love as real. His emotional connection with her has a significant impact on his character development and actions, highlighting the personal and subjective reality of his feelings. Her love isn't real but K chooses it to be real. Choice, a major human theme.
Oh I aint readin' that big ass paragraph. I accept your concession tho.
>her sacrifice
You don't call it a sacrifice when someone steps on your phone
As real as any woman is capable of
she cute
As real as K's.
the question isn't if her love is 'real', its if her love was ever in question, did she have a choice to love him?
the answer is of course no as she's a emotional crutch designed by its creators to validate her owner, as plainly spelled out by the film
Aren't women made by evolution/God to satisfy men?
if so
why are they so internally repulsive ?
You're supposed to have sex with them before you turn 20 so you're more open to new experiences. If you wait until you're older than 20 to have sex for the first time, it's not going to be as pleasant.
She never had a choice. Her programming was set just the same up until she died. Only humans are capable of free will, that's why K's death is significant at the end.
>She never had a choice
yes, that's what i said
If they could make sexbots that looked and acted like that you'd know the answer was yes. It just will never reach that level so there's no point thinking about it
When her little chip thingy is about to get smushed (or she's about to be killed, essentially) her last act is to say "I love you," seems a bit significant since that final statement contributed nothing to her self-preservation
There's probably some statement in there about how she, like a replicant, has a choice in her behavior, but to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy Blade Runner
>you have to have a very high IQ to enjoy Blade Runner
You actually do. Without jokes, pretentiousness or trolling.
love isn't a real thing regardless
there's no difference between a programmed hyper realistic AI and a woman
Don't care. If it feels real it's real. Goddamn why was I born before realistic holo gfs
Was his?
pretty sure this scene answered that question, Anon
I think this scene doesn't answer the question, it only serves the purpose to make K crumble and hurt him.
I don't think it answers the question if Joi was capable of "overcoming" her programming. That is basically the question of Blade Runner franchise. Rachael, and specially Roy and K, probably Deckard do overcome their programmings and prove to do "human acts", therefore becoming humans, although they initially weren't born.
If Joi was capable of truly loving K is something we don't know, just like you won't know if your girlfriend truly loves you.
So I don't think the question was answered.
“It’s still real to me, damnit.”
the whole point of the big pink joi scene was that she was just following her programming. the advertisement calls him Joe, just like his personal unit did. he realizes she was just following her programming, and that's what inspires him to go against his and save deckard.
Does it matter? Is anyone's love ever real or is it a matter of taste and fate that you happened to meet someone and like them?
Is any woman's love real these days?
Your mom is programmed to love you (unless she has faulty programming which is mental illness)
This is the only objective and true answer here. I'm not sure why you people keep bumping the thread expecting anything else out of this character, which really is for you nothing but an expectation of women as a whole. No. Here's your answer. Women are incapable of true love, unless it's their offspring and even that is not guaranteed. Now move on.