Was Inside Job cancelled due to shitty Netflix policy or there are other deeper reasons?
Was Inside Job cancelled due to shitty Netflix policy or there are other deeper reasons?
Was Inside Job cancelled due to shitty Netflix policy or there are other deeper reasons?
>not an Epstein island joke
probably because it lacked teeth
This
All the Conspiracies are real but Alex Jones is still represented as a Crazy person for whatever reason
It's such a "have a cake and eat it" situation. They make fun of qanon facebook boomers, who are insane irl, but the first episode is literally them doing exactly what qanon says is happening, so what the frick?
Agreed. Compare this with the X-Files.
>"Don't trust the government, they're gonna sell you out to aliens and they cover up murders and experiment on soldiers with anthrax vaccines that are actually tracking chips that turn you into alien slaves"
And that would be the standard X-Files plot, because it was all post-Gulf War paranoia.
But Inside Job is like
>"MOTHMAN IS REAL AND HE WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN AN OFFICE!"
>for whatever reason
>>for whatever reason
It probably had more to do with Netflix's declining growth and the broader tech economy going to shit.
Despite that, I haven't seen the show, but just this screenshot makes me agree that it looks too soft to keep people interested for long.
A show about conspiracy theories where the best they could do was "Tax Evasion Land"?
One, "Tax Evasion Land" is way too verbose for a punchline. Two, it's completely predictable. Tax evasion land already exists in real life. It's called "Ireland".
Even if this was a five-second gag, "Epstein Island" or "e-girlta Land" or something snappier with some grit was right there. I don't know if it was corporate mandate (Netflix depends on billionaire investors, so it can't actually disparage them in a way that would hurt) or just soft writers, but this doesn't make me want to watch.
remember that while this was cancelled, pedo mouth got another season so yeah pretty sure that even if the writers wanted to do something the corporate mandate would had messed with them
The big mouth creator's father literally did 9/11. Look it up, he obviously gets separate rules
It was the writers.
Remember that famous canceled turd, the New Warriors run that would introduce Snowflake & Safespace?
That was written by Daniel Kibblesmith.
A former writer for Colbert and the son of rich bankers.
Now check out who has writing credits for 9 episodesof Inside Job:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt10231312/fullcredits/writer?ref_=m_ttfc_2
Staff writer and episode writer are two different positions
You are saying that like having Daniel Kibblesmith of "Grandpa's Internet Gas" fame there isn't a red flag about the quality of the writing room.
People were surprised by the quality of season 1, while season 2 was everything people originally expected from season 1 when the show premiered. No one liked it so it got cancelled. That's really it. I liked season 1 but I'm not surprised the show got cancelled after the clusterfrick of season 2.
>I liked season 1 but I'm not surprised the show got cancelled after the clusterfrick of season 2.
I only watched the first season and didn't bother with season 2, how bad was it? I really liked S1.
nta but I feel like giving over so much of season 2 to Reagan's relationship with the illuminati guy voiced by Adam Scott was a real swing and a miss for me. Ended up sacrificing humor, momentum, and world building for retreading the same emotional beats in a circle for a season and paid for it with with a final forever cliffhanger.
the whole season/secondpart is dedicated to showing that Ron(literally MaleReagan/R63Tomboy) is the perfect man and with that give emotional "weight" to the decision Reagan has to make at the end, if he didn't exist the whole final episode wouldn't have existed, that and the fact that he is the is perfectboyfriendmaterial(trademark) just make him quite boring, and being the main focus they make the whole season boring
Also it's funny how tomboys are men with a vegana in the sense that they are a best friend for sports and beers but with a hotass body, while the ideal version of a man is the opposite with someone whom talk about your feelings as you would with your BBF but with a donkey dong, fricking Ying and Yang, I guess that's why each sex finds the other's fantasy unrealistic
Not true, it was cancelled before season 2 even aired.
But Inside Job wasn't just cancelled. It was ROBBED of its second season. That's what pissed off its small but passionate fandom.
Wasn't Hirsch one of the cowriters? So you know, mouse doesn't forget
what's wrong with Hirsch? Besides the whining on twitter about how life is hard
He is a rank incompetent who somehow
barely managed two seasons out of Gravity Falls, which was praised as the second coming of Jesus purely because it came out during a really dry spell for Disney TV animation as far as them having nothing of quality on their channels, that something halfway decent managed to be seen as great purely off the basis that it had serialized storytelling and the illusion that it was leading to something.
Hirsch quit Gravity Falls purely to avoid the inevitable crashing and burning (which he ended up delaying not preventing) and yet, is more than willing to use his online lynch mob to threaten Disney if they do anything with the franchise (which he doesn't own) without him involved... which he refuses to do.
Also, Owl House only got greenlit because Hirsch's incompetent wienersleeve made the show and thought giving the wienersleeve a show with dykes might make Alex come back to them but Alex and his c**t kept shitting on Disney, especially when it became apparent Owl House was a flop and was canceled, to the point that Disney has cut bait with the two and blackballed them.
>it came out during a really dry spell for Disney TV animation as far as them having nothing of quality on their channels
Whoa there. Phineas and Ferb was still carrying Disney TVA in the early 2010s. Disney XD also had some cool shit, but those failed to gain traction because they were stuck on a premium channel. The reason Gravity Falls caught on was because its serialized narrative felt fresh among kids' cartoons and because its visuals and overall vibe were reminiscent of something on Cartoon Network, further making GF stand out on Disney.
Gravity Falls was smart in that it explored untapped potential of story-driven TV animation.
wasn't funny, wasn't popular with normals, didn't have an original idea
the majority of the main cast was just dumb random humor idiots. the military mutant guy? dumb comic relief character. the alien/monster/plant guy? dumb comic relief character. the brown guy? dumb comic relief character. the other guy had had focus which made him a little different at least.
when the first introduction to the main cast of characters was just a drug joke where they all had the same reaction really just said "everyone else is just there to be funny and the exact same while the main character and one other guy get to do anything"
> the majority of the main cast was just dumb random humor idiots.
This so fricking much. Most of the cast was 1 idiot recycled with s different appearance. I think that's okay for background characters in a town reknown to be stupid, but for the supporting characters? You need 1 like that and done, not All of them.
I guess they couldn't think of a way of making the MC look smart, if everybody else was not dumb for contrast.
It was an inside job
badda bing
the panama papers thing is a scandal about important politicians (specially americans and chinese) using panama's banks to launder money
I'm still disappointed by the bond villain episode not ending with Reagan going full are we the baddies when the super spy discovers what they do for a living
>Offshore Beach
It's just not very funny. I've been watching a lot of Futurama lately and been laughing my ass off.
It was too safe edgy with generic humor
generic how?
This. They wasted the top-tier conspiracies on low-brow writing and a surface-level look. The format of the show should have been each season centred on a major conspiracy (like the office of the President being controlled by the shadow government; religion; celebrities) with some minor stuff done as a joke like MIB did and a grand overarching plot of the Robes that would be expanded through the whole series. Each of the conspiracies they did cover deserved entire seasons.
It was too fricking bad because the animation was amazing, Rand was a believable antagonist, and Reagan being really funny. But the show had to be smarter. They actually should have spent far less money animating non-humans and limited the novel races to one maybe two.
>Netflix canned the show days before Justin got metooed
>Velma premiered that same week, derailing even further attention away from Inside Job's cancellation and cutting short the campaign for it to be revived in the wake of Rick and Morty's [at the time] uncertain future
There was a brief period where it was looking like Inside Job could possibly carry the mantle for Rick and Morty
>biggest "new" adult cartoons this year have been Velma, Clone High, and Futurama
It was always a losing battle. Inside Job never stood a chance.
>or there are other deeper reasons?
I doubt it. It was a conspiracy theory-based show written by people who have an incredibly surface-level understanding of the stuff they were satirizing.
They basically treat said theories like fairy tales.
It was shit and deserved to be cancelled, sometimes it is that easy
the problem is the writing has the same structure as disney toons. Character A screws up, has to apologize to Character B who the wronged while Characters' C and D go off on wacky side plots. It works for kids' stories but this was supposed to be an adult conspiracy show.
They couldn't make any jokes about real conspiracy theories because it would be too dangerous to the establishment. Also, women aren't funny.
Sucks that it got canceled, that season finale hit me right in the feels.
Maybe the show just wasn’t good
>The show's humor was nothing but references. To the point there's episodes dedicated to James Bond and 80's pop culture.
>The highlights of the series were developed in the season's second half.
>Cancelled during the time Netflix decided to cut funds towards animation
It was simply bad timing and proving the show wasn't worth of a renewal. Although to be fair, Netflix cancelled everything in animation except for Big Mouth and projects that were already being finished.
The show sucked because most of the stuff they were making fun of actually happened or is suspicious. If you 100% believe anything the US government says or you don't at least acknowledge that they might being lying then you're an idiot.
>Lol haha space lasers 9/11
The whole point is the 9/11 commission is either 100% true or there's lies, misinformation, and/or disinformation. Everyone just attacks the theories, but never looks at all the evidence. If you look at before, during, and after 9/11, it's clear that something is amiss.
>9/11
Saudi government backed attack. Disclosure is coming.
Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the US
The show cost a $1 million per episode and delivered one less than contracted. Couldn't justify itself. I liked it, and Ridley is my favorite character in recent memory. But business is business, and animation does not operate outside of it.
I know certain people here like to shit on Alex Hirsh. I'm not one of those, but in this case criticism is warranted. He was executive producer. He needed to rein in costs and make sure every contracted episode gets completed. He failed.
>business is business, and animation does not operate outside of it.
How does the business of western animation works? I know about how anime makes money.
>How does the business of western animation works?
Animation works the same way any other show on TV works. Get ratings, which ups the price of advertising rates and the fees paid by the cable carrier. Sell merchandise, sell broadcast rights on the international market.
The difference between how things work on tv and how things work on streaming, besides who's handing out the money, is how risk and responsibility is spread. On streaming, shows must prove themselves individually. On cable, advertising is sold as blocks, so some shows can afford to do not as well as the others. This is where people get confused.
There is no such subsidization on streaming, and loser shows get cancelled quickly not because streamers are less patient, they're simply free to judge performance on an individual basis.
This might change as both Netflix and Disney move toward ad-supported streaming. If they start selling ad packages for groups of shows, then there would be more wiggle room in individual performance of the shows. If they let advertisers choose specific shows to advertise on, then quick cancellations will remain the norm.
Did the original press releases ever mention if Inside Job was picked up for a 20-episode order? I remember being disappointed that we'd waited over a year for just 8 episodes.
I don't recall if any press release mentioned it, but an animator who worked on the show revealed that on Cinemaphile. They did not meet the total episode order because they went over budget.
>but an animator who worked on the show revealed that on Cinemaphile
>No jokes about Dinosaurs being a scam made up by the Royal society because nobody visits nat history museums without them
>No jokes about Disney and Von Braun trying to reach the firmament
>No jokes about the race of giants that ruled North America
She's so babygirl…
i'm 99% sure that a netflix exec stole the idea for Inside Job from me. i'm not kidding.
>be me, back in highschool
>around fall 2017
>big into cartooning, working on a handful of pitches
>aunt is a lesbo, starts dating some exec from netflix. being a little dork who desperately wants to get into the industry, i take any chance i can to go over and talk to them
>share ideas for dumb cartoons every time i go over, eventually share one called "Office 51"
>it's a workplace comedy set inside area 51. a massive office of guys at cubicles cover up all sorts of weird stuff. aliens, cryptids, etc
>most of the humor comes from referencing irl conspiracy theories. those sorts of spooky things have always fascinated me
>"the x-files meets the office"
>main character is a wimpy cubicle jockey who's to nervous to do anything fun
>best friend is a party animal alien who's escapades push the duo into surreal paranormal adventures
>i know it sounds shit, i was a sophmore
>for the first time, netflix exec lady seems more interested in the pitch. asks follow up questions about characters and places
>asks me for episode concepts
>end up giving her a few. standouts were "a bunch of JFK clones break out of containment, and they all need to be assassinated before they combine into a big gross JFK blob" and "crashing a dinner party of global elite lizard people"
>nothing comes from these conversations, eventually my aunt and exec lady split
>stop thinking about stupid cartoon idea
>inside job comes out in 2021
>see that alex hirsch is involved, huge gravity falls fan
>for whatever reason i don't check out the show until this year
>show is bizarrely similar to my pitch
>multiple characters seem oddly familiar
>shit my pants when the fricking jfk clone episode comes on
>check show credits
>exec lady is attached to the project
a lot of the similarities i can see as coincidences, but the jfk clone thing is so specific and dumb. it legitimately keeps me up at night sometimes.
Interesting if true
i believe this story but only because a netflix exec being a thieving dyke with no hint of creativity makes too much sense to discount it
Assuming this is true, how does it feel to know you've impacted popular culture even in a small way?