It's Snyder, what do you expect? Without any original material written by other and more creative people than him, his movies absolutely fricking suck.
300 and Watchmen carried him so hard.
>Dial of Destiny
Is it wrong to say that I unironically low-key enjoyed some parts of that movie? Don't get me wrong, it has nothing on the trilogy, but I certainly found myself being more entertained by it than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
I don't know, I don't really watch many movies anymore. My teenage "le cinema" phase is long past me, and I have been catching myself enjoying slop even though I watch maybe 1 or 2 movies a year now.
Its better than Crystal probably, but yeah it doesn't have the same charm and energy for obvious reasons. The absurd nazi ending was kind of fun though. I like how unapologetically pulpy it was that the nazis just pop open their suitcase and take out their old uniforms.
But the very low quality early 2000s rebel moon title drop was an immediate red flag. It was like those old 3d font sites you could make jpegs out of. Except those flaming ones were better.
Like why is it there, its a star wars crawl ripoff but... for 2 words? lmao its so fricking ugly and dumb it bothers me
>But the very low quality early 2000s rebel moon title drop was an immediate red flag. It was like those old 3d font sites you could make jpegs out of. Except those flaming ones were better.
Rebel Moon reminded me of Too Human and Daikatana long before it dropped. And I ended up liking it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I can understand liking parts of it. Hack snyder should have made a short film about the robot having an existential crisis instead of the multi parter slop movie.
Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
No. You could say that about pretty much anything. Visually it's mostly of a mixture of 00s Xbox aesthetics and 80s edgelord pulp like Heavy Metal. Storywise it's Campbell. Plot is 7 Samurai, obviously.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
not really it's essentially just a straight rip off of Seven Samurai in a sci fi setting, similarities to other movies are probably because they ripped off Seven Samurai to some extent too.
Lol, that title drop looks so dated. Looking at some of the pictures of the movie, it should've taken inspiration from Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and the sci-fi pulp of that era and crafted it into its own thing, kind of like Star Wars did, except putting a different twist on it.
Making it an uninspired, edgy, early 2000's movie is so dated and stupid. It's like Snyder never really grew up and still makes the same shit since Dawn of the Dead and 300. If he had made those today, it wouldn't have been nearly as good as it is being from the 2000's. He's still in that 2000's edgy teenage mindset, when the world has long moved on since then.
4 months ago
Anonymous
He just keeps remaking the same shit over and over, its tedious. Look at his previous movies its embarrassing.
>Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
No. You could say that about pretty much anything. Visually it's mostly of a mixture of 00s Xbox aesthetics and 80s edgelord pulp like Heavy Metal. Storywise it's Campbell. Plot is 7 Samurai, obviously.
>Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
not really it's essentially just a straight rip off of Seven Samurai in a sci fi setting, similarities to other movies are probably because they ripped off Seven Samurai to some extent too.
I mean in the sense that he obviously wants to tell the imperial court intrigue flashback story, the robot soulsearching story, and the defend-the-town story. Those are like 3 different movies. We literally get the flashback shit clumsily jammed into the movie with bad transitions like its a video game.
Like you know when you go talk to an npc and you get that moment where you're like oh ok, a cutscene is coming. That happens twice? The first campfire time was ok. The second time was janky.
4 months ago
Anonymous
He's just absolute shit at storytelling.
A lot of the stuff he wants to "convey" could be just inferred or left to the imagination, which would work out nicely and keep the pace up.
But yeah, he suffers from "bro I gotta put this cool shot in broooo" and then the entire narrative leaves the building until he's done with the slowmo pose shots.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The slow mo was terrible. And the marketing is total bait and switch shit. Like OP with antlerbot, we get that for 2 seconds of nothing. Kai is in that pic and he doesn't even survive the movie lol?
I would have watched a movie about imperial guard Kora, she seemed happier and more attractive there even though she had a boy haircut.
There are constant threads about, it's gigakino
It came out like 2 days ago
Meanwhile we have just as many star wars threads from movies from like 10 years ago
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Anonymous
>Like you know when you go talk to an NPC
This describes every single interaction between any characters in this movie. Everyone talks in this weird expository NPC manner of speech where things are just flatly stated. Noone has any actual character and everyone just immediately declares what they're thinking about and what's going on in the immediate vicinity.
It's like the entire universe is populated just by NPCs going through their idling dialogues and so on
4 months ago
Anonymous
You can practically see the flashing PUSH X quicktime event in your mind leading you into a dialog segment
lmao, wut the frick?
jej looks the part
4 months ago
Anonymous
>clumsily jammed into the movie with bad transitions like its a video game.
textbook sneeder ever since 300
he only does poorly stitched disjointed shit with no regard for scene to scene flow
Not all of them
But Snyder unironically thinks of himself as some visionary for a mature audience with refined taste such as himself lol
If you watch some of his interviews he was talking about how rebel moon is starwar but for adults and how he had to cut so many gores or sex scene to fit the pg13 version
Dude literally still thought edgy shit like that make his story more mature like a teen
>He didn't even write it himself
but he did, and without any help
4 months ago
Anonymous
>and without any help
homie. I'm so in favor of stripping away your "right" to voice your thoughts at this point. This shit is simple to look up and you still make false statements.
It really was. >le heckin diverse cast >strong wahman of color protagonist >White man bad >CGI slop overload >directed by moronic hack >produced by goyflix
This movie is like a litmus test to determine if someone is a homosexual or not.
>This movie is like a litmus test to determine if someone is a homosexual or not.
Yeah, but not the way you think. I despise low IQ right wingers (chuds) almost as much as leftists at this point.
The fun comes from Snyder fans, who all this time thought themselves so far above "regular" slop, now having to defend Netflix garbage and the most incoherent and embarrassing Snyder movie to date, which in itself is a tough sell.
It's even going to get worse for them since Snyder split this story into four releases (two regular, two snyder cuts of the same shit) AND is promising more sequels to this turd, when it's obvious that it's dead on arrival.
This is now going to consume both what's left of his fans and his own career and end up demoting him to shoestring budget straight2VOD projects, if that.
>Compared with 99% of Hollywood?
It's a copy and paste plot. If you can find any form of originality in this movie, this says more about you than than Hollywood.
>doesn't matter of the film is hideous and the acting is terrible
You are hideous (quite literally, I imagine). >So is Snyder?
No. He's a boomer manchild but not a fedora tipper. Flesh & Blood is one of the ugliest, most disgusting movies ever made. Again, Robocop was a fluke.
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Anonymous
>You are hideous (quite literally, I imagine).
False, and not an argument.
>He's a boomer manchild but not a fedora tipper
He is both >Flesh & Blood is one of the ugliest, most disgusting movies ever made
Wrong on both counts. >Robocop was a fluke
Demonstrably false. Also demonstrates the error in your previous point; the cinematography, direction, and message are the same between both movies, yet you admit that Robocop is meritorious. The discrepancy in your acknowledgement betrays the sentimental and irrational nature of your criticism, since both Robocop and Flesh+Blood are good on the same merits.
>90lb woman with no special abilities is the greatest warrior in the universe >rebels are super diverse >bad guys are white
Guess we know how he got this dumpster pile funded.
This was another problem with it. Everyone incompetent (farmers) or evil (empire) is completely white, yet ALL of the heroes are mudpeople (+the one screaming dyke). Even Hunnam's character, the only white potential ally, is just evil at the end.
On paper it should work fine. Even as the movie is right now, it's not a bad starting point. The main hurdle is ignoring the rabid critics (midwit film journalists, YouTube morons and the cattle feasting on their "opinions"). Also, the actors aren't ugly. The cast is good looking.
>The cast is good looking
now THIS is delusion.
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Anonymous
>and not an argument.
It is. >He is both
Nope. Verhoeven is the blaspheming little gaytheist. You think he's seething they made Robocop Catholic? >now THIS is delusion.
Nope. The cast is attractive. But I'm quite certain that you aren't.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>The cast is attractive
I'm not sure how this can be a metric to the quality of a movie. Unless you're watching pornos, I guess.
4 months ago
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>It is.
Assertion isn't an argument either lol >Nope. Verhoeven is the blaspheming little gaytheist
So is Snyder. Once again the difference is one of them is talented. >The cast is attractive. But I'm quite certain that you aren't.
It takes an attractive person like me to know those people are very ugly. You, clearly being ugly yourself, are coping by saying these hideous people "look good."
Bay has only made one truly good film and has been worth less than shit since he left Bruckheimer
>Bay has only made one truly good film
False + you didn't post one of his better films regardless, lmfao
4 months ago
Anonymous
>sauce??? >no Snyder >no u
Wow. I'm impressed, midwit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't recognize James Dean >no arguments
as expected from a plebeian third-worlder.
cope forever lmfao
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm white and I was quoting your first "argument". You're a midwit and ugly. And short.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm white and I was quoting your first "argument"
Keep coping, because it's obvious, at this point, that neither of those statements are true.
lmfao
4 months ago
Anonymous
They are true and what's also true is that you're ugly, short and a midwit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>still trying to make an argument via assertion
thoroughly irrational, non-white behavior
stay mogged, third-worlder
4 months ago
Anonymous
I bet you're too stupid to even realize how thoroughly ironic your post is, midwit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>mudmonkey still coping
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're honestly just pathetic. I hope you're hispanic "white" or something.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Cry harder lmao
You never demonstrated any capacity for rational thought, a clear sign that you aren't white. You're even aware of this since you gave up defending the garbage movie a while ago.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, Juan.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>snyderjeet literally reduced to tears after being btfo by pure aryan wisdom
stay mad
4 months ago
Anonymous
>muh based hispanic white nationalist
Okay, Juan. It's getting a little embarrassing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>nonwhite still going with the "y-you're this person I made up in my head!!!!" cope
I know you pajeets believe that saying something over and over makes it come true, but that's not how the real world works lol.
I'm glad you acknowledged that Rebel Moon sucked though.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm still fully white and you're still an ugly manlet with a middling IQ. Also presumably hispanic.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>blah blah blah repeating the same shit over and over because he doesn't know any other english words
try learning the language, monkey; it'll help, since this is an English-language website
I don't think you have much self awareness how pathetic you look for personally attacking me, for not liking a bad movie.
But keep b***hing and throwing tantrums. Not like it will help you.
Nta. He just owned you because he's 1000% correct. You come across as an insecure weirdo who was raised on anime one-liners kek
4 months ago
Anonymous
He got humiliated because he espoused the opinion that he was in any position to ridicule another or their work. It's a character flaw, really. Disrespectful stuff.
I know its overplayed but the movie was just like that degrading horse drawing meme
At the end on the bridge port fight I half expected to just start seeing green screen foam cubes in the background
>these are the imperial troops from planet Imperius, the seat of the imperial empire >they are all dressed in imperial clothes and also have roman names
>these are a rebel faction called the rebels, they come from a planet rebelia, that is currently rebelling against the empire
>these are farmers from the farmlands of Farmia, they all look like farmers and they farm grain
>this is a robot made for warfare, he is a roboticus mechanicus from the factories of factoria mechanica robotica, he is made for war but he doesn't want to fight, he also fights amazingly well and kills people in a cool way
>this is a shirtless tarzano from the planet tarzania, he has long hair and is good with animals, here he tames a gryphon also from the planet tarzania which is also known in the old tongue as gryphonia, because it has gryphons, he's good at taming them
>this is Nemesis from planet Childonia, she lost her child so she's killing other evil mothers like the spidermother, she has two artificial arms and can't hold babies anymore only cleavesabers
>this is Kai from planet Eire, he has an irish accent and can't be trusted, he also has a twin brother called Wanai who has one eye, he shows up in the sequel
>this is the other gladiator from the movie gladiator, here he plays a gladiator in the castor arena on the moon of pollux
>this is Nemesis from planet Childonia, she lost her child so she's killing other evil mothers like the spidermother, she has two artificial arms and can't hold babies anymore only cleavesabers
you forgot to work in the obvious forced asian trope
>Hunam does a Hunam thing and speaks in a comical leprechaun accent for no reason >get the cool black gladiator guy and have him do nothing, even though he's a master general (couldn't he advise them what to do at some point? like maybe not walk into a potential ambush?!) >robot does nothing >asian woman introduced in an unrelated action scene, then does nothing >shirtless guy tames a gryphon then leaves the gryphon behind
>all of these high profile characters that are supposed to be the best of the best get captured by bdsm luggage in an instant
>bad guys defeated because the same thing that kills people when strapped to bdsm luggage also releases them and they gave the gunkey to their enemy >bad guys defeated because there's a small turret operator on a huge ship that's also the pilot of the ship and can be easily killed by a spear >bad guys defeated because captain roidface gets schooled by a woman that's a third of his weight
>pilot sits right in an exposed wienerpit in a setting with neural uplinks etc >within arms reach from the outside >the wienerpit glass is literally just regular glass, on a spaceship
What the frick lmao
Should have been a character with a cool as frick sniper rifle that they use in some way before the final fight, so we can see it, and it is ultra powerful.
As he runs up to the ship turret he shoots it repeatedly with this rifle and goes through the windshield and then he kills the pilot and gets killed. Wiping the ship out like they did was so, so weak and could have been done easily otherwise.
It was unimaginative garbage. The whole movie.
I wonder how much he just talked out of his ass.
I think I just saw an article where he said the second part is where it gets good and sheds the 7 Samurai plot.
Snyder likes to copy other movies without thinking about it. Bloodaxe could have shot at the wienerpit but realized it was shielded. Then he and sword lady work together and he stabs through the shielding with one of her energy sabers and dies. But nah, all the characters act like the actors are all composited together and never act in the same room.
all of this. also the middle of the movie is them collecting new characters with no relation between them, they're not collecting nemesis because the barbarian lead them to her or the general because something happened previously , it's just an unrelated character collecta-thon which could be placed in any order and doesn't make the viewer be engaged or have any tension. also you know they're never in any danger during fights, except maybe for the last scene.
it has good unconnected unrelated scenes, the start of the movie is strong and the barbarian taming the bird was visually well executed and while it's a copy of star wars and avatar, it's still more pleasant and entertaining to watch from a visual evaluation, but plot wise it falls apart midway, unfortunately. and the villains suck.
>Hunam does a Hunam thing and speaks in a comical leprechaun accent for no reason >get the cool black gladiator guy and have him do nothing, even though he's a master general (couldn't he advise them what to do at some point? like maybe not walk into a potential ambush?!) >robot does nothing >asian woman introduced in an unrelated action scene, then does nothing >shirtless guy tames a gryphon then leaves the gryphon behind
>all of these high profile characters that are supposed to be the best of the best get captured by bdsm luggage in an instant
>bad guys defeated because the same thing that kills people when strapped to bdsm luggage also releases them and they gave the gunkey to their enemy >bad guys defeated because there's a small turret operator on a huge ship that's also the pilot of the ship and can be easily killed by a spear >bad guys defeated because captain roidface gets schooled by a woman that's a third of his weight
That's Admiral Roidface, but I agree with most of the rest.
Nah it was actual shit. This is way beneath what Snyder's done in the past. A mess of half baked stolen ideas born out of a desire for his own shared universe after DC fell apart
It was so bad. I don't mind generic stories if they're inspired but this story was very, very boring. The overall story itself, like the Magnificent 7 et al, is dumb because they all are basically the same character. Shoot shoot or punch punch and either has a vendetta maniac or has a vendetta maniac. They could have saved everyone a lot of time by just going to a Clan or Guild and getting a handful of competent soldiers. In this rewritten world there's nothing to keep anyone else from having swords, even.
The villains weren't really iconic enough they looked a bit neat but never showed up and never even felt like a real threat. The big bad ship turned out to be a dud. No one scouted the area for this big meeting from this guy no one knows and no one was a lookout.
Honestly I have no idea how this movie was made by the same guy that made Watchmen, or even Sucker Punch. This is written, directed and shot as if it's someone's first directorial effort.
It just looks amateurish across the board. Like some european coproduction made to launder money.
Once it was no longer intended to be Star Wars they should have rewritten everything not changed a few things. There was no reason to not have cool aliens everywhere, which were the highlight of the movie in the bar, but also establish Rebel Moon's own level of tech in it's universe. No shields? No cyborgs? No alien tech? No aliens? Just a bunch of humans running around shooting the same rifles. But there was the black face orc guy from LOTR playing a bounty hunter.
The guns went from sounding like 50 cal M2's to some kind of cartoon submachine gun in the last fight complete with different fire rates and it was the same rifle. This irritates me.
>No one scouted the area for this big meeting from this guy no one knows and no one was a lookout.
If only they had some sort of master strategist general in their ranks that could offer advice and so on....
Snyder has stated that his intent is for Rebel Moon to become "a massive IP and a universe that can be built out."[5] A role-playing video game based on Rebel Moon was in development as of March 2023, alongside an animated short and a graphic novel.[60][61] A novelization of the film written by V. Castro was published by Titan Books on December 26, 2023.[62] Snyder announced in July 2023 plans for a TV series focusing on Balisarius.[63] At Gamescom in August 2023, Snyder announced that Super Evil Megacorp was developing a four-player co-op action game that would be exclusively available on the Netflix Games platform.[64] In September 2023, Evil Genius Games sued Netflix for terminating a deal that allowed them to produce a tabletop role-playing game set in the Rebel Moon universe.[65]
A four-issue prequel comic entitled Rebel Moon: House of the Bloodaxe by writer Magdalene Visaggio and artist Clark Bint will be published by Titan Comics in January 2024.[66] Set five years before the events of the film, the comic depicts backstory for the characters of Devra and Darrian Bloodaxe, leaders of a band of outlaw revolutionaries. In November 2023, a narrative-podcast, an animated comic book, and an animated series were announced to be in development with each project taking place chronologically before the feature films.[67] The animated short is set to tell the story of the Kali, the "shadowy figures" who power the Motherworld's "most dangerous technology".[12]
>Snyder has stated that his intent is for Rebel Moon to become "a massive IP and a universe that can be built out."[5]
Kek, the frick? Can't something just be genuine for its own sake? Star Wars didn't start out as this massive fricking IP franchise, it was just a passion project from ol' George reading sci-fi pulps of the Golden Era, watching westerns on the television, samurai movies in the cinema, and him staring out into the sunset as a kid.
I honestly hate this sort of blockbuster soullessness that has to accompany any new ideas. Sincerity and inspiration are such a thing of the past now
It was so epic when the black rebel dude we've never seen gave the whos with me speech and then the audience was like "omg they're going to let him go off alone!" but then some dudes we've never seen were like "NO, I wont let you do it alone" and decided to go with him.
Like, phew, that was a close call.
From the moment the BLM twins showed up it was obvious that the girl was going to be the smart bossgirl type and the guy the dumb brute type.
The only reason why he even was in the movie was for character development for the smart bossgirl sister.
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Anonymous
>The only reason why he even was in the movie was for character development for the smart bossgirl sister.
and for snyder to cast the Cyborg actor again after he nearly cancelling himself
He seemed like a chill dude, too bad he had 10 lines and 5 minutes of screentime before he died in a looney tunes fashion. Some nameless pilot lolwut dodges him and then blasts him, that's so fricking funny.
>main team lands at some middle of nowhere farm >guy they want to recruit is a slave there because of debt >go through a whole routine where he's going to pay off his debt by wrangling the hard-to-wrangle animal >the person that he owes the debt to is called "hickman" >they recruit the guy but do not take the gryphon with them >all of this, ultimately, is so Kai can collect the bounty on him
Why didn't Kai just ... show up and do all this himself at any previous point? The guy is already a slave and hickman and his wranglers could be killed off without anyone even knowing. You can collect the bounty easily.
Anyway we had to wast like 15-20 minutes on this subplot but the general at the arena was just collected without any gladiatorial stuff shown.
Honestly Mr Hickman ran a decent operation there. His slave was well fed and exercised and he had a fair and honest rapport with him.
If I were to pick one fictional slave owner to be enslaved to it would be Mr Hickman.
>have debt >need to pay it off >your debt owner gives you work, food and place to sleep while working off your debt >some people show up and want you to join them >person you own debt to gives you a option to clear your debt >you finish the task >debt owner gets killed >movie wants you to "be happy" the debt owner gets killed because he is a fat white man.
Best part is that the slave guy, now free because of Hickman's actual good nature and honoring of the deal, looks at Hickman getting mauled by the gryphon and exclaims "HAH!!!", smiles and goes off with the main team.
Also, he doesn't even take the gryphon with.
>have debt >need to pay it off >your debt owner gives you work, food and place to sleep while working off your debt >some people show up and want you to join them >person you own debt to gives you a option to clear your debt >you finish the task >debt owner gets killed >movie wants you to "be happy" the debt owner gets killed because he is a fat white man.
Honestly that was just a poorly written part.
Best part is that the slave guy, now free because of Hickman's actual good nature and honoring of the deal, looks at Hickman getting mauled by the gryphon and exclaims "HAH!!!", smiles and goes off with the main team.
Also, he doesn't even take the gryphon with.
Considering everyone was smug and laughing at the slave owner guy getting killed why didn't they just shoot him from the get-go and get it over with that way?
>we need to bully this small village for grain and leave a detachment so they actually give us the grain because our capital ship needs a bit of grain so we can bake bread on the ship and have fresh bread on the go >this is a part of the ploy to flush out the rebels because the farmers are selling the grain to the rebels
>nevermind, the imperials simply located the rebel-hosting planet and razed it completely with zero effort
True what was the point of the big cheese besides bad writing to actually visit some dirty village. They're in a big spessship just monitor it from afar take grain when ready and monitor for rebel clues.
I actually think that with a decent writer and everything storyboarded for him Snyder might've been a good pick for a WH40K director.
He would understand how to present it in a mythical and larger than life fashion, but he would need to have it all scripted out in detail for him because he can't write to save his life.
Too bad you made me think of this. Now, I'm even more sad than Rebel Moon being shit I'm sad because Rebel Moon is shit and we won't get 40Kino directed by Zack Snyder until he is done with this.
This movie was laughably bad. It looked good but how can you spend this much money and not even manage to just ask ChatGPT for a space opera script.
>First guy steps of spaceship is a white guy in an SS coat >We spent probably 100000000 million in fuel to haggle you over a day's worth of bread
>2 people are going to fight an intergalactic empire >First guy they meet says he only cares about money, they say they have no money, joins anyway >Second guy frees himself from slavery and joins even though the crew did nothing to free him >Third woman they don't even talk to her, she kills the spider and joins without anyone even talking about what they are doing >Fourth guy says no, but actually yes
Didn't even narrow down specific skills/traits for each member. They're all basically the same character but with the slider moved a bit this way or that.
Main- Best all round hero can do anything excels in all stats. (But not too much because there are no sjw writers or producers.)
Sword Lady- Can 1v1 anyone in melee range
Beast Master- Controls robots.
Legendary General- Is good at tabletop tennis.
Scoundrel Thief- Betrays everyone
Main clinger guy- In love with the heroine yet somehow misses his moment to die at the end of the movie it was so obvious and they fricked it up but the movie was so shit no one will notice anyway.
I'm jesting but too much needed to happen with so many characters being introduced especially since they were so poorly thought up/rewritten.
>Beast Master - controls robots >Asian woman with lightsabers - excels in ranged combat >general - great at solo missions behind enemy lines >smuggler - can be trusted with anything >jimmy the robot - great at pretending he's a deer >kara - can spot princess Issa hiding as a farmer girl instantly >mr bloodaxe - cannot be killed
This movie was laughably bad. It looked good but how can you spend this much money and not even manage to just ask ChatGPT for a space opera script.
>First guy steps of spaceship is a white guy in an SS coat >We spent probably 100000000 million in fuel to haggle you over a day's worth of bread
>2 people are going to fight an intergalactic empire >First guy they meet says he only cares about money, they say they have no money, joins anyway >Second guy frees himself from slavery and joins even though the crew did nothing to free him >Third woman they don't even talk to her, she kills the spider and joins without anyone even talking about what they are doing >Fourth guy says no, but actually yes
The reason they join is because they all hate the Imperium.
The movie sucks, but when you try to make fun of the movie this way while omitting shit that was presented it just makes you look dumb, and others that dislike the movie also look dumb.
I personally love that they had apparently the best general of all time with them and he never asked any questions, never offered up a plan, never communicated anything .. nothing. They just walked into a trap just like that.
Oh yeah, and the large imperial ship was hiding behind a nearby building.
I personally love that they had apparently the best general of all time with them and he never asked any questions, never offered up a plan, never communicated anything .. nothing. They just walked into a trap just like that.
Oh yeah, and the large imperial ship was hiding behind a nearby building.
Why do you take it all so literally? It's obviously a movie that deals in broad archetypes and its biggest issue is not giving those archetypes enough time to unfold, rather than trying to make them realistic. It basically crosses over into downright fairytale imagery in that one flashback sequence with the princess for fricks sake.
It's not Game of Thrones or Legend of the Galactic Heroes that tries to present it all like some historical drama. It's neo expressionist genre pastiche, almost literally the "saying the quiet part out loud" version of Star Wars. No one calls out Star Wars for implausible plot points like "The Empire blows up an entire planet just to prove a point". It's to establish the Empire as petty, cruel and ambivalent towards human life. Or "A moon sized space station explodes if you hit it with a missile in the right place". It's to establish the theme of personal rebellion being able to do serious damage to the systems of institutionalized evil.
Rebel Moon and practically everything Snyder has made is exaggerated and poetic, rather than realistic and literal. Do you think he's some sort of oblivious dumbass who doesn't realize that "Warrior from an entire galaxy unite to defend a random peasant village" doesn't make sense as a premise of you take it literally?
Not to mention all the thematic relevance between the farming village with all the imagery of plowing fields juxtaposed to the big bad empire filled with soldiers turned cyborgs that live in metallic ships and only know how to exploit. This goes further with all the sex talk.
Wow, imperials juxtaposed with simple farming folk. Shit bro, that's DEEP. You know what you're right, let's forget about logic and story and writing and dialogue and characters and anything really. Bro EMPIRE vs SIMPLE FOLK, bruh... I totally get it now. Dickship into space vegana hole. Frick yeah
>a guy they recruited specifically because he's a general (probably the best there is since they went through the effort of getting him) does not offer any strategic or tactical advice, no advice whatsoever, no actual line of dialogue really ... >they end up walking into a trap right away
The point is that the movie doesn't even follow its own "poetic" logic.
What's the point of that guy taming a gryphon in an entire segment devoted to it if they're not even taking the gryphon with? What does this establish or communicate? That he's a noble savage? That he's good at taming animals? Are we going to have ANOTHER animal slow-mo taming moment later on, AGAIN? Are they going to go back and collect the gryphon, wasting more time on this detour when they could've taken it with right away?
Everything is full of stupid shit like this, as if Snyder is going by some doodles he made as a kid so he just wants to make his childish characters he made up when he was 12 work in this movie that makes zero sense anyway.
Nothing meshes, nothing organically fits together. It's like a collection of his loose notes on what he finds cool pasted together with no sense of direction or any kind of logic.
If he wanted to make another Sucker Punch which is just a string of "cool" scenes, he could've done that instead of pretending he's telling a story.
>What's the point of that guy taming a gryphon in an entire segment devoted to it if they're not even taking the gryphon with?
Because the scene is about both the guy and the gryphon finding their freedom. The guy is free now, and so is the gryphon.
This is pretty evident. Them taking the bird with them would defeat that simple message.
Didn't read the rest because you failed to grasp such obvious message.
The movie sucks because they cut out all the characters bits but left the CGI heavy scenes in. The CGI in some places weren't even great and the fight scenes in this movie are easily some of the worst Snyder done in his career.
But despite thinking all of that you're pretty much forcing me to defend this shit of a movie due to how fricking dumb you are.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Thank you mr high IQ man for taking your time to explain this. Maybe you shouldn't be wasting your time here and go solve some murders irl.
The movie sucks because they cut out all the characters bits but left the CGI heavy scenes in. The CGI in some places weren't even great and the fight scenes in this movie are easily some of the worst Snyder done in his career.
But despite thinking all of that you're pretty much forcing me to defend this shit of a movie due to how fricking dumb you are.
The scene was stupid and too short to have been pulled off. It is implied that the gryphon is a higher intelligence than some horse but its cool this guy climbs on it.
"Can you do it?"
"I'll try," proceeds to wrestle with it, metaphorically of course, and they fly around get into a spot of trouble, he saves the bird horsey, and gains its trust. "We gotta head back can't leave the people that saved us to die." Fat, ugly whitey decides to kill or enslave the heroes anyway, hey it's random space who cares, bird kills the guy. They leave it behind no litterbox onboard will collect later for story purposes.
Could have been cool but no.
She shoots a guy's head point blank and there isn't even a mark wtf are you talking about
Other than that, I meant.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I like how the griffon tried to actively kill him by smashing into rocks and walls and shit but when he gets back on it's perfectly fine and tame again.
I guess the invisible videogame taming bar finally filled up.
It's just Chekhov's gun, a very clumsy one. They will get the griffin back and the girlboss will ride it during the final battle of 2nd part. They've already released artwork of the scene.
The problem is not the setting, it is the writing.
You can have bad stories set in 40k (and there are plenty). You could tell a good story in this setting.
But telling the story through so many flashbacks and spending about half the movie "getting the team together" without giving us much to care about in these characters was just tedious.
It would be fine if any of this was shown in a creative way, but its flat. There are some moments in the flashbacks like with Issa that get at what you're describing but most of the movie is "played straight" to poor effect.
>7 samurai rip off with some other movie plots thrown in. >originaly it was a script for a star wars movie but got rewriten for a new IP. >the "anti-heroes" are boring as frick.
Something about the movie being Star Wars first didn't work out. If you plug this shit in to the SW universe it would seem ok and cool because it's SW and it is "classic" to be derivative of your own brand (like Gundam) but in a "new" story universe they should have kept core concepts and rewrote the whole thing with a focus on establishing their own brand.
It really is baffling why there wasn't just a cutaway for all the intended gore. Those get used for violence all the time and arguably have more affect than 300 blood. Maybe Snyder was afraid of ruining his style. Meanwhile, the planned Director's Cut could still have all the over the top pulp violence.
I like how the griffon tried to actively kill him by smashing into rocks and walls and shit but when he gets back on it's perfectly fine and tame again.
I guess the invisible videogame taming bar finally filled up.
I liked the pointless slow motion. I like Zack's stuff mostly but what was the point? Was it to show us him noticing the bird's eye look at the cliff? There's cliff everywhere it could have just tilted. And Beastman still smashed into the cliff. The movie was ridiculously bad. Evading other trappers or some other monster bird or something would have added 5 minutes and created an actual bond. What a disappointment this movie was. They could have even spent ~20 seconds establishing the slaver guy needed to be killed or just not killed him.
Rebel Moon is planned to be a franchise that begins with a two-part film; each part to be shot back-to-back.[34] By August of the same year, the follow-up was officially confirmed with the title Rebel Moon – Part Two: The Scargiver, and scheduled for release on April 19, 2024.[54][36] Development of additional installments in the story are ongoing, with the script for the third film already being worked on as of December 2023.[55][56][57] Snyder's exact series-length plans are unclear, having stated that the first two-part installment is intended to be the beginning of a trilogy,[58] but also that the first would be followed by a "trilogy of sequels", implying four total.[59]
the plot was trite, the world looked like they asked 10 year olds what civilization they thought where cool and they decided just to create a gay fission reaction with all of them to create an uninspiring wold.
Star Wars, even at its worst, is still meant to be entertaining and can be made fun of.
This movie is as if some autistic friend is trying to explain to you the tomes of texts he wrote about some OC donut steel characters while blurting everything out without catching his breath. It's just oppressively dull.
It's 7 samurai without the conflict, only the team building
It's the most tv movie ever made
Make a miniseties instead of making this shit, risking nuking a sequel, and going in history as a "half a 7 samurais movie"
>imperials are exceptionally boring apart from the gaudy WH40K style >the main badguy proceeds to walk around in a regular white shirt and tie for the most of the movie and the final fight >tard haircut like Joshu from Jojolion
>do you think the audience understands the space nazis are evil? >better have him beat some guy to death for no reason and have weird tentacle sex with poppers to make sure
I hated the tie. I would have preferred an ostentatious closed collar or a fluffy cravat or something. The one thing in the costume design that I hated.
The first problem was the switch from Star Wars to Rebel Moon wasn't done well. It isn't Star Wars; having your henchmen be jobbers right off the bat eliminates all threat. SW also relies on iconic stuff from SW like lightsabers and jedi and force. Instead it's just some lady with swords no one else uses in the close combat they're all doing for some reason. There's no reason to not let some of your other characters have martial arts training and swords.
>the switch from Star Wars to Rebel Moon wasn't done well
Do you actually think that even happened? Sounds like marketing blah blah has really gotten to you.
It's a missed opportunity to make a really great franchise because they just lack the last 5% of talent needed, mostly because they're hamstrung by wokeness and live in bubbles that require them to hire ugly people as actors and morons as directors.
On paper it should work fine. Even as the movie is right now, it's not a bad starting point. The main hurdle is ignoring the rabid critics (midwit film journalists, YouTube morons and the cattle feasting on their "opinions"). Also, the actors aren't ugly. The cast is good looking.
Read the thread. It's a terrible starting point. It's a bad movie. It's shit. It has been explained several times why it is shit. It is comically awful.
>, it's not a bad starting point
Maybe make a movie that tells a story and people won't bash it, instead of making a starting point for the true movie later
I'm not wasting any significant amount of my time on you morons.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Keep not proving your point who cares why are you even here? I want someone to defend this pile of shit and change my mind because I was looking forward to this shit for a while and it is one of the worst movies I've seen recently. I'm even a Snyder fan, if you remove JL and BVS.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm even a Snyder fan, if you remove JL and BVS. >disliking the man's best works (Terrio screenplays)
Yeah, that's exactly why.
>, it's not a bad starting point
Maybe make a movie that tells a story and people won't bash it, instead of making a starting point for the true movie later
>90lb woman with no special abilities is the greatest warrior in the universe >rebels are super diverse >bad guys are white
Guess we know how he got this dumpster pile funded.
It's actually sad because between this failing and the amazon WH40K show being undoubtedly pozzed beyond belief that entire type of aesthetic will be poisoned for decades.
Was the point to make this universe seem like it's inhabited by 100 people?
>high-ranking general of the evil empire personally comes down to threaten and expropriate a village of 30 people so he can feed his army >the 'Bloodaxe" rebels who have been a thorn in the empire's side and whom a top-ranking general is chasing is just some guy and his side-bitch >main character starts openly talking about how she is recruiting people to fight the evil empire in a bar but nobody cares >the famous general who turned his back against the empire doesn't even command an army, he's just a... guy? >the villager farm is now supposed to have a fighting chance against the evil empire because they recruited 5 mooks who can wield swords and shit
I hate how there's no decisive visual identity to any of it.
In this particular shot you can't really tell what kind of weapons they're using, what kind of uniforms they're wearing, what kind of ship it is in the background.
Everything looks so painfully generic it could be a part of any recent "scifi" game/franchise/whatever. It's completely interchangeable.
Meanwhile in SW the ships, outfits and the entire visual style is immediately recognizable and iconic.
Fool, do you not recognise the imperial armor of the praetoris imperialis, the finest shock troops in all of the imperial empire?
If the dead king which the imperial empire also had could hear you he'd be spinning in his imperial tomb of royal kings.
I hate how there's no decisive visual identity to any of it.
In this particular shot you can't really tell what kind of weapons they're using, what kind of uniforms they're wearing, what kind of ship it is in the background.
Everything looks so painfully generic it could be a part of any recent "scifi" game/franchise/whatever. It's completely interchangeable.
Meanwhile in SW the ships, outfits and the entire visual style is immediately recognizable and iconic.
WOW SIR THIS IS EPIC THEY DO THE TIKTOK EFFECT!
fricking christ
cameron's shoestring future war sequence from terminator, shot against a table with miniatures, is cool, engaging, dynamic and looks amazing
this shit is just insulting, it makes you loose interest and fall asleep in 5 seconds
how can somebody be this devoid of imagination and creativity
I am continually amazed at how Snyder causes so much seethe.
It's like the fact his movies exist is a personal affront and the rage just seeps from their pores. I don't know if it's magnified by butthurt Star Wars fans who hate everything now that their childhood was ruined but it is hilarious. Going through a Snyder thread you see people going after every little thing, because every piece and every frame must be awful to them. Case in point, there is a whole tangent in this thread of people attacking the fricking title drop.
Everyone is appalled because he started his career properly and had a string of hits then started to descend into ineptitude and delusion.
He singlehandedly made DC miss out on the comic book movie craze and likely cost them billions upon billions in missed profits. And now he's making shlock that's frankly embarrassing to even glance at.
>He singlehandedly made DC miss out on the comic book movie craze
You can hate Snyder's DC movies all you want but that was all incompetent execs at Warner. The best example is how they pushed for teamup movies before the solo movies came out to actually establish the characters.
In the time it took to launch three iron man movies and the first Avengers movie DC released 2 Aquaman movies despite the first being a massive hit. Warner missed that boat all on their own.
The only character who piqued my interest was the robot. He's the only one that actually had something resembling a character arch.
There's such a lack of joy in this movie too. Even the scenes with the villagers felt...hollow. The delivery of the few jokes were so flat I damn near missed them. Someone pointed out that this movie was designed to make a cool trailer, I could also argue that every line of dialogue was designed for the same fate.
Will be watching part 2 for the robot though. Hope he gets Wandavisioned by the hiding princess - I mean - regular village girl.
Worst movie I have seen all year
Yes.
Your mom's sextape was worse.
fpbp
i can't believe how bad it was. money laundering is getting lazy these days.
It's Snyder, what do you expect? Without any original material written by other and more creative people than him, his movies absolutely fricking suck.
300 and Watchmen carried him so hard.
I didn't expect it to be worse than Dial of Destiny
>Dial of Destiny
Is it wrong to say that I unironically low-key enjoyed some parts of that movie? Don't get me wrong, it has nothing on the trilogy, but I certainly found myself being more entertained by it than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
I don't know, I don't really watch many movies anymore. My teenage "le cinema" phase is long past me, and I have been catching myself enjoying slop even though I watch maybe 1 or 2 movies a year now.
Its better than Crystal probably, but yeah it doesn't have the same charm and energy for obvious reasons. The absurd nazi ending was kind of fun though. I like how unapologetically pulpy it was that the nazis just pop open their suitcase and take out their old uniforms.
But the very low quality early 2000s rebel moon title drop was an immediate red flag. It was like those old 3d font sites you could make jpegs out of. Except those flaming ones were better.
Like why is it there, its a star wars crawl ripoff but... for 2 words? lmao its so fricking ugly and dumb it bothers me
>But the very low quality early 2000s rebel moon title drop was an immediate red flag. It was like those old 3d font sites you could make jpegs out of. Except those flaming ones were better.
Rebel Moon reminded me of Too Human and Daikatana long before it dropped. And I ended up liking it.
I can understand liking parts of it. Hack snyder should have made a short film about the robot having an existential crisis instead of the multi parter slop movie.
Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
>Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
No. You could say that about pretty much anything. Visually it's mostly of a mixture of 00s Xbox aesthetics and 80s edgelord pulp like Heavy Metal. Storywise it's Campbell. Plot is 7 Samurai, obviously.
>Its like he mashed 3 different movies together
not really it's essentially just a straight rip off of Seven Samurai in a sci fi setting, similarities to other movies are probably because they ripped off Seven Samurai to some extent too.
Lol, that title drop looks so dated. Looking at some of the pictures of the movie, it should've taken inspiration from Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, and the sci-fi pulp of that era and crafted it into its own thing, kind of like Star Wars did, except putting a different twist on it.
Making it an uninspired, edgy, early 2000's movie is so dated and stupid. It's like Snyder never really grew up and still makes the same shit since Dawn of the Dead and 300. If he had made those today, it wouldn't have been nearly as good as it is being from the 2000's. He's still in that 2000's edgy teenage mindset, when the world has long moved on since then.
He just keeps remaking the same shit over and over, its tedious. Look at his previous movies its embarrassing.
I mean in the sense that he obviously wants to tell the imperial court intrigue flashback story, the robot soulsearching story, and the defend-the-town story. Those are like 3 different movies. We literally get the flashback shit clumsily jammed into the movie with bad transitions like its a video game.
Like you know when you go talk to an npc and you get that moment where you're like oh ok, a cutscene is coming. That happens twice? The first campfire time was ok. The second time was janky.
He's just absolute shit at storytelling.
A lot of the stuff he wants to "convey" could be just inferred or left to the imagination, which would work out nicely and keep the pace up.
But yeah, he suffers from "bro I gotta put this cool shot in broooo" and then the entire narrative leaves the building until he's done with the slowmo pose shots.
The slow mo was terrible. And the marketing is total bait and switch shit. Like OP with antlerbot, we get that for 2 seconds of nothing. Kai is in that pic and he doesn't even survive the movie lol?
I would have watched a movie about imperial guard Kora, she seemed happier and more attractive there even though she had a boy haircut.
It came out like 2 days ago
Meanwhile we have just as many star wars threads from movies from like 10 years ago
>Like you know when you go talk to an NPC
This describes every single interaction between any characters in this movie. Everyone talks in this weird expository NPC manner of speech where things are just flatly stated. Noone has any actual character and everyone just immediately declares what they're thinking about and what's going on in the immediate vicinity.
It's like the entire universe is populated just by NPCs going through their idling dialogues and so on
You can practically see the flashing PUSH X quicktime event in your mind leading you into a dialog segment
jej looks the part
>clumsily jammed into the movie with bad transitions like its a video game.
textbook sneeder ever since 300
he only does poorly stitched disjointed shit with no regard for scene to scene flow
Wait he wrote it himself? What's with all the big budget directors trying to write now? That's not a normally thing for a good reason
>Wait he wrote it himself?
Oh yeah, he wrote Rebel Moon himself.
Not all of them
But Snyder unironically thinks of himself as some visionary for a mature audience with refined taste such as himself lol
If you watch some of his interviews he was talking about how rebel moon is starwar but for adults and how he had to cut so many gores or sex scene to fit the pg13 version
Dude literally still thought edgy shit like that make his story more mature like a teen
>But Snyder unironically blah blah blah
He didn't even write it himself. Can you dumb fricking idiots stop saying moronic things?
>He didn't even write it himself
but he did, and without any help
>and without any help
homie. I'm so in favor of stripping away your "right" to voice your thoughts at this point. This shit is simple to look up and you still make false statements.
I would not go that far, but at that budget it was a clusterfrick. Set and costume design was pretty good, but the writing was pure garbage.
There are constant threads about, it's gigakino
Honestly I expected more threads but apparently even many of Snyders hard-core fans dropped the movie.
it's unbelievable
how bad it was
the second half
like a nightmare
I believe people who say things like this have never felt any serious amount of pain in their lives.
It really was.
>le heckin diverse cast
>strong wahman of color protagonist
>White man bad
>CGI slop overload
>directed by moronic hack
>produced by goyflix
This movie is like a litmus test to determine if someone is a homosexual or not.
>This movie is like a litmus test to determine if someone is a homosexual or not.
Yeah, but not the way you think. I despise low IQ right wingers (chuds) almost as much as leftists at this point.
You’re an irrelevant Black person-lover so I’ll wear that as a bad of honor.
I'm probably more radical than you, just not low IQ.
Does anyone think it's good?
These threads are just people laughing at how bad it is.
The fun comes from Snyder fans, who all this time thought themselves so far above "regular" slop, now having to defend Netflix garbage and the most incoherent and embarrassing Snyder movie to date, which in itself is a tough sell.
It's even going to get worse for them since Snyder split this story into four releases (two regular, two snyder cuts of the same shit) AND is promising more sequels to this turd, when it's obvious that it's dead on arrival.
This is now going to consume both what's left of his fans and his own career and end up demoting him to shoestring budget straight2VOD projects, if that.
non-indian
indian
It was like if you fed 15 different sci-fi films/franchises to AI and asked it to make a movie.
t. A24 slow-burn söy consuming slopper
I think it's an extremely by-the-books plot presented in an extremely stylish and fun way
This. There's nothing surprising, but frankly given how much slop is produced by Hollywood now it feels like a breath of fresh(er) air.
If this hyperderivative shlock is a "breath of fresh air" then you're a certified moron
Compared with 99% of Hollywood? It is. Which says more about the disaster zone that is Hollywood more than RM.
>Compared with 99% of Hollywood?
It's a copy and paste plot. If you can find any form of originality in this movie, this says more about you than than Hollywood.
Implying RM isn't slop.
Do you prefer your slop seasoned or unseasoned, sirs
>"stylish and fun"
Verhoeven is a fedora tipping boomtard and Robocop was an accident.
Explain Total Recall then you cataclysmic emperor homosexual
Mid.
Said no lifeform ever
Seethe harder, idolizing that Dutch manchild.
He's one of the all-time greats and you can't stop him
Also you probably like Zack Snyder which instantly invalidates your opinion on anything
>Scott and Boyle on the same tier as hitchock and gibson and scorsese and de palma
You are not only a cuckold
But probably into diapers as well
>likes Lucas
>doesn't like Snyder
No self-awareness.
>Bay in D
No Testosterone either.
Bay has only made one truly good film and has been worth less than shit since he left Bruckheimer
>Also you probably like Zack Snyder which instantly invalidates your opinion on anything
>>>>
cameron in SS tier
>Mid
Yuck, only a Zack Snyder zoomer fan would use low IQ buzzwords like this
He's right, he lucked out twice and had nothing to do with the writing or acting.
https://thesymbolicworld.com/content/the-symbolic-structure-of-movies-batman-v-superman-2016-part-i
https://thesymbolicworld.com/content/the-symbolic-structure-of-movies-batman-v-superman-2016-part-ii
>muh symbolism
doesn't matter of the film is hideous and the acting is terrible
>Verhoeven is a fedora tipping boomtard
So is Snyder? The difference is that Verhoeven is a talented director
Dogshit list wtf
both of you are moronic
>doesn't matter of the film is hideous and the acting is terrible
You are hideous (quite literally, I imagine).
>So is Snyder?
No. He's a boomer manchild but not a fedora tipper. Flesh & Blood is one of the ugliest, most disgusting movies ever made. Again, Robocop was a fluke.
>You are hideous (quite literally, I imagine).
False, and not an argument.
>He's a boomer manchild but not a fedora tipper
He is both
>Flesh & Blood is one of the ugliest, most disgusting movies ever made
Wrong on both counts.
>Robocop was a fluke
Demonstrably false. Also demonstrates the error in your previous point; the cinematography, direction, and message are the same between both movies, yet you admit that Robocop is meritorious. The discrepancy in your acknowledgement betrays the sentimental and irrational nature of your criticism, since both Robocop and Flesh+Blood are good on the same merits.
This was another problem with it. Everyone incompetent (farmers) or evil (empire) is completely white, yet ALL of the heroes are mudpeople (+the one screaming dyke). Even Hunnam's character, the only white potential ally, is just evil at the end.
>The cast is good looking
now THIS is delusion.
>and not an argument.
It is.
>He is both
Nope. Verhoeven is the blaspheming little gaytheist. You think he's seething they made Robocop Catholic?
>now THIS is delusion.
Nope. The cast is attractive. But I'm quite certain that you aren't.
>The cast is attractive
I'm not sure how this can be a metric to the quality of a movie. Unless you're watching pornos, I guess.
>It is.
Assertion isn't an argument either lol
>Nope. Verhoeven is the blaspheming little gaytheist
So is Snyder. Once again the difference is one of them is talented.
>The cast is attractive. But I'm quite certain that you aren't.
It takes an attractive person like me to know those people are very ugly. You, clearly being ugly yourself, are coping by saying these hideous people "look good."
>Bay has only made one truly good film
False + you didn't post one of his better films regardless, lmfao
>sauce???
>no Snyder
>no u
Wow. I'm impressed, midwit.
>doesn't recognize James Dean
>no arguments
as expected from a plebeian third-worlder.
cope forever lmfao
I'm white and I was quoting your first "argument". You're a midwit and ugly. And short.
>I'm white and I was quoting your first "argument"
Keep coping, because it's obvious, at this point, that neither of those statements are true.
lmfao
They are true and what's also true is that you're ugly, short and a midwit.
>still trying to make an argument via assertion
thoroughly irrational, non-white behavior
stay mogged, third-worlder
I bet you're too stupid to even realize how thoroughly ironic your post is, midwit.
>mudmonkey still coping
You're honestly just pathetic. I hope you're hispanic "white" or something.
Cry harder lmao
You never demonstrated any capacity for rational thought, a clear sign that you aren't white. You're even aware of this since you gave up defending the garbage movie a while ago.
Okay, Juan.
>snyderjeet literally reduced to tears after being btfo by pure aryan wisdom
stay mad
>muh based hispanic white nationalist
Okay, Juan. It's getting a little embarrassing.
>nonwhite still going with the "y-you're this person I made up in my head!!!!" cope
I know you pajeets believe that saying something over and over makes it come true, but that's not how the real world works lol.
I'm glad you acknowledged that Rebel Moon sucked though.
I'm still fully white and you're still an ugly manlet with a middling IQ. Also presumably hispanic.
>blah blah blah repeating the same shit over and over because he doesn't know any other english words
try learning the language, monkey; it'll help, since this is an English-language website
>facebook meme
>extremely stylish
I like how every single detail about literally everything in that shot, from outfits to objects to the location is just muddied up into a dull muck.
it was stupid cliche fun. not for everyone but i was entertained enough that i will watch part 2
i'm not even going to bother watching it. waste of time.
It was dreadful.
There wasn't even anything to make fun of.
>There wasn't even anything to make fun of.
That's what mirrors are for.
That comeback was so sad, it's like in line with this shit movie.
>b-because I say so, chud
Cry, sissy.
I don't think you have much self awareness how pathetic you look for personally attacking me, for not liking a bad movie.
But keep b***hing and throwing tantrums. Not like it will help you.
>proceeds crying
Good boy.
Nta. He just owned you because he's 1000% correct. You come across as an insecure weirdo who was raised on anime one-liners kek
He got humiliated because he espoused the opinion that he was in any position to ridicule another or their work. It's a character flaw, really. Disrespectful stuff.
This, at least with Star Wars movies there´s tons of stuff to laugh too and make fun with, this was just boring.
I know its overplayed but the movie was just like that degrading horse drawing meme
At the end on the bridge port fight I half expected to just start seeing green screen foam cubes in the background
>these are the imperial troops from planet Imperius, the seat of the imperial empire
>they are all dressed in imperial clothes and also have roman names
>these are a rebel faction called the rebels, they come from a planet rebelia, that is currently rebelling against the empire
>these are farmers from the farmlands of Farmia, they all look like farmers and they farm grain
>this is a robot made for warfare, he is a roboticus mechanicus from the factories of factoria mechanica robotica, he is made for war but he doesn't want to fight, he also fights amazingly well and kills people in a cool way
>this is a shirtless tarzano from the planet tarzania, he has long hair and is good with animals, here he tames a gryphon also from the planet tarzania which is also known in the old tongue as gryphonia, because it has gryphons, he's good at taming them
>this is Nemesis from planet Childonia, she lost her child so she's killing other evil mothers like the spidermother, she has two artificial arms and can't hold babies anymore only cleavesabers
>this is Kai from planet Eire, he has an irish accent and can't be trusted, he also has a twin brother called Wanai who has one eye, he shows up in the sequel
>this is the other gladiator from the movie gladiator, here he plays a gladiator in the castor arena on the moon of pollux
Lmao perfect summation of this trash movie. It was like an ai chatbots blog post the movie.
>this is Nemesis from planet Childonia, she lost her child so she's killing other evil mothers like the spidermother, she has two artificial arms and can't hold babies anymore only cleavesabers
you forgot to work in the obvious forced asian trope
Very good with major pacing issues in the middle third. I hope the extended cut can rectify them.
>Hunam does a Hunam thing and speaks in a comical leprechaun accent for no reason
>get the cool black gladiator guy and have him do nothing, even though he's a master general (couldn't he advise them what to do at some point? like maybe not walk into a potential ambush?!)
>robot does nothing
>asian woman introduced in an unrelated action scene, then does nothing
>shirtless guy tames a gryphon then leaves the gryphon behind
>all of these high profile characters that are supposed to be the best of the best get captured by bdsm luggage in an instant
>bad guys defeated because the same thing that kills people when strapped to bdsm luggage also releases them and they gave the gunkey to their enemy
>bad guys defeated because there's a small turret operator on a huge ship that's also the pilot of the ship and can be easily killed by a spear
>bad guys defeated because captain roidface gets schooled by a woman that's a third of his weight
Oh yeah ...
>big bad emperor shows up
>also speaks in a leprechaun accent
>wears a comically bad fake beard
>looks like some rando twerp
woah you must be fun at parties
>pilot sits right in an exposed wienerpit in a setting with neural uplinks etc
>within arms reach from the outside
>the wienerpit glass is literally just regular glass, on a spaceship
What the frick lmao
>barbarian just jumps up to the turret and spears him through the windshield
The thing is, this could've been an iconic camp moment, but Snyder insists on playing it all dead serious.
I like the fact, the we were suppose to feel anything when he died.
That guy did not even have 5 minutes of screen times.
Should have been a character with a cool as frick sniper rifle that they use in some way before the final fight, so we can see it, and it is ultra powerful.
As he runs up to the ship turret he shoots it repeatedly with this rifle and goes through the windshield and then he kills the pilot and gets killed. Wiping the ship out like they did was so, so weak and could have been done easily otherwise.
It was unimaginative garbage. The whole movie.
I think I just saw an article where he said the second part is where it gets good and sheds the 7 Samurai plot.
Snyder likes to copy other movies without thinking about it. Bloodaxe could have shot at the wienerpit but realized it was shielded. Then he and sword lady work together and he stabs through the shielding with one of her energy sabers and dies. But nah, all the characters act like the actors are all composited together and never act in the same room.
all of this. also the middle of the movie is them collecting new characters with no relation between them, they're not collecting nemesis because the barbarian lead them to her or the general because something happened previously , it's just an unrelated character collecta-thon which could be placed in any order and doesn't make the viewer be engaged or have any tension. also you know they're never in any danger during fights, except maybe for the last scene.
it has good unconnected unrelated scenes, the start of the movie is strong and the barbarian taming the bird was visually well executed and while it's a copy of star wars and avatar, it's still more pleasant and entertaining to watch from a visual evaluation, but plot wise it falls apart midway, unfortunately. and the villains suck.
That's Admiral Roidface, but I agree with most of the rest.
Nah it was actual shit. This is way beneath what Snyder's done in the past. A mess of half baked stolen ideas born out of a desire for his own shared universe after DC fell apart
>A mess of half baked stolen ideas born out of a desire for his own shared universe after DC fell apart
Midwit post.
Not that anon and he's completely right. You'd have to be a moron not to see the hackery on display. Go watch Seven Samurai and then come back
It was so bad. I don't mind generic stories if they're inspired but this story was very, very boring. The overall story itself, like the Magnificent 7 et al, is dumb because they all are basically the same character. Shoot shoot or punch punch and either has a vendetta maniac or has a vendetta maniac. They could have saved everyone a lot of time by just going to a Clan or Guild and getting a handful of competent soldiers. In this rewritten world there's nothing to keep anyone else from having swords, even.
The villains weren't really iconic enough they looked a bit neat but never showed up and never even felt like a real threat. The big bad ship turned out to be a dud. No one scouted the area for this big meeting from this guy no one knows and no one was a lookout.
The movie was awful.
>No one scouted the area for this big meeting from this guy no one knows and no one was a lookout.
If only they had some sort of master strategist general in their ranks that could offer advice and so on....
Honestly I have no idea how this movie was made by the same guy that made Watchmen, or even Sucker Punch. This is written, directed and shot as if it's someone's first directorial effort.
It just looks amateurish across the board. Like some european coproduction made to launder money.
Once it was no longer intended to be Star Wars they should have rewritten everything not changed a few things. There was no reason to not have cool aliens everywhere, which were the highlight of the movie in the bar, but also establish Rebel Moon's own level of tech in it's universe. No shields? No cyborgs? No alien tech? No aliens? Just a bunch of humans running around shooting the same rifles. But there was the black face orc guy from LOTR playing a bounty hunter.
The guns went from sounding like 50 cal M2's to some kind of cartoon submachine gun in the last fight complete with different fire rates and it was the same rifle. This irritates me.
Exactly.
It's straight to dvd movie, your expecting way too much. It's not big hollywood production. It's campy fun stuff
It forgot to add the fun.
Snyder has stated that his intent is for Rebel Moon to become "a massive IP and a universe that can be built out."[5] A role-playing video game based on Rebel Moon was in development as of March 2023, alongside an animated short and a graphic novel.[60][61] A novelization of the film written by V. Castro was published by Titan Books on December 26, 2023.[62] Snyder announced in July 2023 plans for a TV series focusing on Balisarius.[63] At Gamescom in August 2023, Snyder announced that Super Evil Megacorp was developing a four-player co-op action game that would be exclusively available on the Netflix Games platform.[64] In September 2023, Evil Genius Games sued Netflix for terminating a deal that allowed them to produce a tabletop role-playing game set in the Rebel Moon universe.[65]
A four-issue prequel comic entitled Rebel Moon: House of the Bloodaxe by writer Magdalene Visaggio and artist Clark Bint will be published by Titan Comics in January 2024.[66] Set five years before the events of the film, the comic depicts backstory for the characters of Devra and Darrian Bloodaxe, leaders of a band of outlaw revolutionaries. In November 2023, a narrative-podcast, an animated comic book, and an animated series were announced to be in development with each project taking place chronologically before the feature films.[67] The animated short is set to tell the story of the Kali, the "shadowy figures" who power the Motherworld's "most dangerous technology".[12]
I wonder how much he just talked out of his ass.
>Snyder has stated that his intent is for Rebel Moon to become "a massive IP and a universe that can be built out."[5]
Kek, the frick? Can't something just be genuine for its own sake? Star Wars didn't start out as this massive fricking IP franchise, it was just a passion project from ol' George reading sci-fi pulps of the Golden Era, watching westerns on the television, samurai movies in the cinema, and him staring out into the sunset as a kid.
I honestly hate this sort of blockbuster soullessness that has to accompany any new ideas. Sincerity and inspiration are such a thing of the past now
this is a massive red flag
it's like buying toys for a kid that wasn't born yet, bad omen
Anyone who makes a movie with the intention of starting a franchise is the enemy of art.
Ah so it’s intended to be the next star slop. Snyder is such a hack
It was streaming
lmao, wut the frick?
I didn't notice in the movie
>I didn't notice in the movie
It was so epic when the black rebel dude we've never seen gave the whos with me speech and then the audience was like "omg they're going to let him go off alone!" but then some dudes we've never seen were like "NO, I wont let you do it alone" and decided to go with him.
Like, phew, that was a close call.
>dies anyway
lol
From the moment the BLM twins showed up it was obvious that the girl was going to be the smart bossgirl type and the guy the dumb brute type.
The only reason why he even was in the movie was for character development for the smart bossgirl sister.
>The only reason why he even was in the movie was for character development for the smart bossgirl sister.
and for snyder to cast the Cyborg actor again after he nearly cancelling himself
He seemed like a chill dude, too bad he had 10 lines and 5 minutes of screentime before he died in a looney tunes fashion. Some nameless pilot lolwut dodges him and then blasts him, that's so fricking funny.
NGL this enby kinda cute.
andby missing part of her ear and head
Not my fault.
She looks good laughing.
Other side
>main team lands at some middle of nowhere farm
>guy they want to recruit is a slave there because of debt
>go through a whole routine where he's going to pay off his debt by wrangling the hard-to-wrangle animal
>the person that he owes the debt to is called "hickman"
>they recruit the guy but do not take the gryphon with them
>all of this, ultimately, is so Kai can collect the bounty on him
Why didn't Kai just ... show up and do all this himself at any previous point? The guy is already a slave and hickman and his wranglers could be killed off without anyone even knowing. You can collect the bounty easily.
Anyway we had to wast like 15-20 minutes on this subplot but the general at the arena was just collected without any gladiatorial stuff shown.
Also trusting someone you've never met to tame a man eating beast, if he fails you both get made slaves too
Honestly Mr Hickman ran a decent operation there. His slave was well fed and exercised and he had a fair and honest rapport with him.
If I were to pick one fictional slave owner to be enslaved to it would be Mr Hickman.
>have debt
>need to pay it off
>your debt owner gives you work, food and place to sleep while working off your debt
>some people show up and want you to join them
>person you own debt to gives you a option to clear your debt
>you finish the task
>debt owner gets killed
>movie wants you to "be happy" the debt owner gets killed because he is a fat white man.
Honestly that was just a poorly written part.
>he is a fat white man.
israeli,
space israelites?
Best part is that the slave guy, now free because of Hickman's actual good nature and honoring of the deal, looks at Hickman getting mauled by the gryphon and exclaims "HAH!!!", smiles and goes off with the main team.
Also, he doesn't even take the gryphon with.
Imagine that Turok guy failed and the traitor would be enslaved alongside the others.
Considering everyone was smug and laughing at the slave owner guy getting killed why didn't they just shoot him from the get-go and get it over with that way?
>we need to bully this small village for grain and leave a detachment so they actually give us the grain because our capital ship needs a bit of grain so we can bake bread on the ship and have fresh bread on the go
>this is a part of the ploy to flush out the rebels because the farmers are selling the grain to the rebels
>nevermind, the imperials simply located the rebel-hosting planet and razed it completely with zero effort
True what was the point of the big cheese besides bad writing to actually visit some dirty village. They're in a big spessship just monitor it from afar take grain when ready and monitor for rebel clues.
The only good things about this movie were Sophia and the cool aliens in the bar. I wish I was exaggerating.
Oh, and the hard bite from Warhammer's style.
I actually think that with a decent writer and everything storyboarded for him Snyder might've been a good pick for a WH40K director.
He would understand how to present it in a mythical and larger than life fashion, but he would need to have it all scripted out in detail for him because he can't write to save his life.
Too bad you made me think of this. Now, I'm even more sad than Rebel Moon being shit I'm sad because Rebel Moon is shit and we won't get 40Kino directed by Zack Snyder until he is done with this.
Didn't even narrow down specific skills/traits for each member. They're all basically the same character but with the slider moved a bit this way or that.
Main- Best all round hero can do anything excels in all stats. (But not too much because there are no sjw writers or producers.)
Sword Lady- Can 1v1 anyone in melee range
Beast Master- Controls robots.
Legendary General- Is good at tabletop tennis.
Scoundrel Thief- Betrays everyone
Main clinger guy- In love with the heroine yet somehow misses his moment to die at the end of the movie it was so obvious and they fricked it up but the movie was so shit no one will notice anyway.
I'm jesting but too much needed to happen with so many characters being introduced especially since they were so poorly thought up/rewritten.
>Beast Master- Controls robots
>Beast Master - controls robots
>Asian woman with lightsabers - excels in ranged combat
>general - great at solo missions behind enemy lines
>smuggler - can be trusted with anything
>jimmy the robot - great at pretending he's a deer
>kara - can spot princess Issa hiding as a farmer girl instantly
>mr bloodaxe - cannot be killed
Imgine being so bad at writting that you can't pull of a Seven Samurai clone, with 10 movies that you can analize that did the exact same thing
He's been working in the movie industry for what? 20+ years? And he can't figure out that he's not good enough to get a proper script going?
This movie was laughably bad. It looked good but how can you spend this much money and not even manage to just ask ChatGPT for a space opera script.
>First guy steps of spaceship is a white guy in an SS coat
>We spent probably 100000000 million in fuel to haggle you over a day's worth of bread
>2 people are going to fight an intergalactic empire
>First guy they meet says he only cares about money, they say they have no money, joins anyway
>Second guy frees himself from slavery and joins even though the crew did nothing to free him
>Third woman they don't even talk to her, she kills the spider and joins without anyone even talking about what they are doing
>Fourth guy says no, but actually yes
The reason they join is because they all hate the Imperium.
The movie sucks, but when you try to make fun of the movie this way while omitting shit that was presented it just makes you look dumb, and others that dislike the movie also look dumb.
>because they all hate the Imperium
bro who doesn't amirite? AMIRITE?
I personally love that they had apparently the best general of all time with them and he never asked any questions, never offered up a plan, never communicated anything .. nothing. They just walked into a trap just like that.
Oh yeah, and the large imperial ship was hiding behind a nearby building.
Why do you take it all so literally? It's obviously a movie that deals in broad archetypes and its biggest issue is not giving those archetypes enough time to unfold, rather than trying to make them realistic. It basically crosses over into downright fairytale imagery in that one flashback sequence with the princess for fricks sake.
It's not Game of Thrones or Legend of the Galactic Heroes that tries to present it all like some historical drama. It's neo expressionist genre pastiche, almost literally the "saying the quiet part out loud" version of Star Wars. No one calls out Star Wars for implausible plot points like "The Empire blows up an entire planet just to prove a point". It's to establish the Empire as petty, cruel and ambivalent towards human life. Or "A moon sized space station explodes if you hit it with a missile in the right place". It's to establish the theme of personal rebellion being able to do serious damage to the systems of institutionalized evil.
Rebel Moon and practically everything Snyder has made is exaggerated and poetic, rather than realistic and literal. Do you think he's some sort of oblivious dumbass who doesn't realize that "Warrior from an entire galaxy unite to defend a random peasant village" doesn't make sense as a premise of you take it literally?
Not to mention all the thematic relevance between the farming village with all the imagery of plowing fields juxtaposed to the big bad empire filled with soldiers turned cyborgs that live in metallic ships and only know how to exploit. This goes further with all the sex talk.
Wow, imperials juxtaposed with simple farming folk. Shit bro, that's DEEP. You know what you're right, let's forget about logic and story and writing and dialogue and characters and anything really. Bro EMPIRE vs SIMPLE FOLK, bruh... I totally get it now. Dickship into space vegana hole. Frick yeah
>a guy they recruited specifically because he's a general (probably the best there is since they went through the effort of getting him) does not offer any strategic or tactical advice, no advice whatsoever, no actual line of dialogue really ...
>they end up walking into a trap right away
The point is that the movie doesn't even follow its own "poetic" logic.
What's the point of that guy taming a gryphon in an entire segment devoted to it if they're not even taking the gryphon with? What does this establish or communicate? That he's a noble savage? That he's good at taming animals? Are we going to have ANOTHER animal slow-mo taming moment later on, AGAIN? Are they going to go back and collect the gryphon, wasting more time on this detour when they could've taken it with right away?
Everything is full of stupid shit like this, as if Snyder is going by some doodles he made as a kid so he just wants to make his childish characters he made up when he was 12 work in this movie that makes zero sense anyway.
Nothing meshes, nothing organically fits together. It's like a collection of his loose notes on what he finds cool pasted together with no sense of direction or any kind of logic.
If he wanted to make another Sucker Punch which is just a string of "cool" scenes, he could've done that instead of pretending he's telling a story.
>What's the point of that guy taming a gryphon in an entire segment devoted to it if they're not even taking the gryphon with?
Because the scene is about both the guy and the gryphon finding their freedom. The guy is free now, and so is the gryphon.
This is pretty evident. Them taking the bird with them would defeat that simple message.
Didn't read the rest because you failed to grasp such obvious message.
Bruh, it's about FREEDOM, you just didn't get it. Bro!
The movie sucks because they cut out all the characters bits but left the CGI heavy scenes in. The CGI in some places weren't even great and the fight scenes in this movie are easily some of the worst Snyder done in his career.
But despite thinking all of that you're pretty much forcing me to defend this shit of a movie due to how fricking dumb you are.
Thank you mr high IQ man for taking your time to explain this. Maybe you shouldn't be wasting your time here and go solve some murders irl.
The scene was stupid and too short to have been pulled off. It is implied that the gryphon is a higher intelligence than some horse but its cool this guy climbs on it.
"Can you do it?"
"I'll try," proceeds to wrestle with it, metaphorically of course, and they fly around get into a spot of trouble, he saves the bird horsey, and gains its trust. "We gotta head back can't leave the people that saved us to die." Fat, ugly whitey decides to kill or enslave the heroes anyway, hey it's random space who cares, bird kills the guy. They leave it behind no litterbox onboard will collect later for story purposes.
Could have been cool but no.
Other than that, I meant.
I like how the griffon tried to actively kill him by smashing into rocks and walls and shit but when he gets back on it's perfectly fine and tame again.
I guess the invisible videogame taming bar finally filled up.
>organically
I fricking hate vegans. Starve yourself, vegan scum.
It's just Chekhov's gun, a very clumsy one. They will get the griffin back and the girlboss will ride it during the final battle of 2nd part. They've already released artwork of the scene.
Some israelitetuber said rebel moon is "40k without the soul" and I can't think of a better way to describe it.
>Regurgitates israelitetubers opinion
You're a human without a soul, in other words a golem
40K stole most of what makes it appealing. The Imperium of Man is a israeli parody of Catholicism.
Many such cases.
The problem is not the setting, it is the writing.
You can have bad stories set in 40k (and there are plenty). You could tell a good story in this setting.
But telling the story through so many flashbacks and spending about half the movie "getting the team together" without giving us much to care about in these characters was just tedious.
Is this an official poster? Because this doesn't happen in the movie. Weird Snyder has to lie in his marketing.
Yes, it's the official poster for the 70mm release. It depicts events of part 2, though, so yeah it's deceptive.
It clearly says Part I on the poster.
It's a Heavy Metal reference, obviously.
It looks like some random mockup since it's for part 1 and it's Kara riding the gryphon, not the Tarzan dude.
It would be fine if any of this was shown in a creative way, but its flat. There are some moments in the flashbacks like with Issa that get at what you're describing but most of the movie is "played straight" to poor effect.
Lmao I asked Chatgpt for a space opera and it name the character "Kai". It only has data until 2021. Does this confirm it was written by AI ?
It was written by Pseudo Intelligence
>7 samurai rip off with some other movie plots thrown in.
>originaly it was a script for a star wars movie but got rewriten for a new IP.
>the "anti-heroes" are boring as frick.
>no young and handsome main characters
It was not kino.
Something about the movie being Star Wars first didn't work out. If you plug this shit in to the SW universe it would seem ok and cool because it's SW and it is "classic" to be derivative of your own brand (like Gundam) but in a "new" story universe they should have kept core concepts and rewrote the whole thing with a focus on establishing their own brand.
Extremely, kino fight scenes
Yeah like when the asian lady slides under the spider on her knees in slomo while slicing up with her doublelightsabers, so hella epic and original.
The first fight scene was good. The bar fight was somewhat ok. The spider fight was bad. The final fight was bad.
She shoots a guy's head point blank and there isn't even a mark wtf are you talking about
It really is baffling why there wasn't just a cutaway for all the intended gore. Those get used for violence all the time and arguably have more affect than 300 blood. Maybe Snyder was afraid of ruining his style. Meanwhile, the planned Director's Cut could still have all the over the top pulp violence.
I liked the pointless slow motion. I like Zack's stuff mostly but what was the point? Was it to show us him noticing the bird's eye look at the cliff? There's cliff everywhere it could have just tilted. And Beastman still smashed into the cliff. The movie was ridiculously bad. Evading other trappers or some other monster bird or something would have added 5 minutes and created an actual bond. What a disappointment this movie was. They could have even spent ~20 seconds establishing the slaver guy needed to be killed or just not killed him.
It's awful but I cant stop watching.
Which is at least more entertaining than disney wars which granted is kind of the lowest possible bar to clear.
it was a stream of hot piss
Or just creatively say it isn't for everyone.
Ayy 9999 hours in makeup chair.
>Ayy 9999 hours in makeup chair.
Sure but that's every woman now. She's a little hard to rate but I'd say 6 and she's tall also (like 5'10).
I was teasing the missing ear chunk from picture 1 she looks ok but a bit ayy shaped with the bad haircut.
If not for this I'd say 7/10. My guess is bad wig, but it really ain't doing her any favors.
la creatura
Rebel Moon is planned to be a franchise that begins with a two-part film; each part to be shot back-to-back.[34] By August of the same year, the follow-up was officially confirmed with the title Rebel Moon – Part Two: The Scargiver, and scheduled for release on April 19, 2024.[54][36] Development of additional installments in the story are ongoing, with the script for the third film already being worked on as of December 2023.[55][56][57] Snyder's exact series-length plans are unclear, having stated that the first two-part installment is intended to be the beginning of a trilogy,[58] but also that the first would be followed by a "trilogy of sequels", implying four total.[59]
the plot was trite, the world looked like they asked 10 year olds what civilization they thought where cool and they decided just to create a gay fission reaction with all of them to create an uninspiring wold.
Star Wars, even at its worst, is still meant to be entertaining and can be made fun of.
This movie is as if some autistic friend is trying to explain to you the tomes of texts he wrote about some OC donut steel characters while blurting everything out without catching his breath. It's just oppressively dull.
It's 7 samurai without the conflict, only the team building
It's the most tv movie ever made
Make a miniseties instead of making this shit, risking nuking a sequel, and going in history as a "half a 7 samurais movie"
>normal movie
>normal movie played at 0.5x speed: Snyder cut
>imperials are exceptionally boring apart from the gaudy WH40K style
>the main badguy proceeds to walk around in a regular white shirt and tie for the most of the movie and the final fight
>tard haircut like Joshu from Jojolion
>do you think the audience understands the space nazis are evil?
>better have him beat some guy to death for no reason and have weird tentacle sex with poppers to make sure
I hated the tie. I would have preferred an ostentatious closed collar or a fluffy cravat or something. The one thing in the costume design that I hated.
It’s surprisingly awful and I don’t think a three hour director’s cut will change that. Snyder should be allowed to write his own scripts.
>main character is a hot brown girl with a bob haircut and fighting skills, named Kora
great job Snyder
The first problem was the switch from Star Wars to Rebel Moon wasn't done well. It isn't Star Wars; having your henchmen be jobbers right off the bat eliminates all threat. SW also relies on iconic stuff from SW like lightsabers and jedi and force. Instead it's just some lady with swords no one else uses in the close combat they're all doing for some reason. There's no reason to not let some of your other characters have martial arts training and swords.
>the switch from Star Wars to Rebel Moon wasn't done well
Do you actually think that even happened? Sounds like marketing blah blah has really gotten to you.
Jokes on you I don't know what marketing blah blah is.
It's a missed opportunity to make a really great franchise because they just lack the last 5% of talent needed, mostly because they're hamstrung by wokeness and live in bubbles that require them to hire ugly people as actors and morons as directors.
On paper it should work fine. Even as the movie is right now, it's not a bad starting point. The main hurdle is ignoring the rabid critics (midwit film journalists, YouTube morons and the cattle feasting on their "opinions"). Also, the actors aren't ugly. The cast is good looking.
Read the thread. It's a terrible starting point. It's a bad movie. It's shit. It has been explained several times why it is shit. It is comically awful.
Don't care about pleb opinions.
You like movies that are just "a starting point", and I'm the one with the pleb opinion?
Kek
Yeah, I don't even necessarily need the story finished, I have brain.
>I don't even necessarily need the story finished
>I have brain.
Pfffhh hahaha jesus christ
>taking the Lord's name in vain
>for my next trick I will now proceed to larp as a caricature of a 19th century busybody
It's a matter of basic respect. If you lack it, your opinions automatically hold less weight (way less).
>can't defend basic critiques
>doesn't even try
>calls others pleb
It's okay to like a bad movie.
I'm not wasting any significant amount of my time on you morons.
Keep not proving your point who cares why are you even here? I want someone to defend this pile of shit and change my mind because I was looking forward to this shit for a while and it is one of the worst movies I've seen recently. I'm even a Snyder fan, if you remove JL and BVS.
>I'm even a Snyder fan, if you remove JL and BVS.
>disliking the man's best works (Terrio screenplays)
Yeah, that's exactly why.
>, it's not a bad starting point
Maybe make a movie that tells a story and people won't bash it, instead of making a starting point for the true movie later
>90lb woman with no special abilities is the greatest warrior in the universe
>rebels are super diverse
>bad guys are white
Guess we know how he got this dumpster pile funded.
It's actually sad because between this failing and the amazon WH40K show being undoubtedly pozzed beyond belief that entire type of aesthetic will be poisoned for decades.
>farmers have scandinavian accents
>charlie hunnam has irish accent
wow so alien, truly a unique and different universe
It's an unintentional comedy.
The suit and tie was unintenionally funny
The guy taming the gryphon and just leaving it there too
Every single character being captured as well
Not to mention the huge space pussy in the beginning. When I saw it I just exploded in laughter.
>first movie of a would-be sprawling franchise is divided into two parts of 4 hours each (director's cut)
Was the point to make this universe seem like it's inhabited by 100 people?
>high-ranking general of the evil empire personally comes down to threaten and expropriate a village of 30 people so he can feed his army
>the 'Bloodaxe" rebels who have been a thorn in the empire's side and whom a top-ranking general is chasing is just some guy and his side-bitch
>main character starts openly talking about how she is recruiting people to fight the evil empire in a bar but nobody cares
>the famous general who turned his back against the empire doesn't even command an army, he's just a... guy?
>the villager farm is now supposed to have a fighting chance against the evil empire because they recruited 5 mooks who can wield swords and shit
I hate how there's no decisive visual identity to any of it.
In this particular shot you can't really tell what kind of weapons they're using, what kind of uniforms they're wearing, what kind of ship it is in the background.
Everything looks so painfully generic it could be a part of any recent "scifi" game/franchise/whatever. It's completely interchangeable.
Meanwhile in SW the ships, outfits and the entire visual style is immediately recognizable and iconic.
Here it just looks like random stock shit.
Fool, do you not recognise the imperial armor of the praetoris imperialis, the finest shock troops in all of the imperial empire?
If the dead king which the imperial empire also had could hear you he'd be spinning in his imperial tomb of royal kings.
They could've at least included one roboticus mechanicus from the factories of factoria mechanica robotica just to make it a bit more flashy.
I wonder how many minutes of this 2 and a half hour are in slowmo
A silly amount. Snyder also has slowmo inside of his slowmo at times. I think there's three different speeds of slowmo in this scene.
SIRS
I gotta hand it to Snyder. He somehow made something even more soulless than the Disney Star Wars
he's been doing it his whole career, morons here just didn't notice because of the veneer of edginess which is all that it takes to impress them.
>he says right after rimming Verhoevens geriatric butthole
I didn't mention Verhoeven, but his movies are anything but empty, so go ahead and compare them if you want.
>muh social commentary
>muh capitalism
Woah.
I'm sure there're people praising this movie for "cinematography" lol
One of the least bad parts of the movie.
Exactly what I was thinking.
>all that slow motion for no discernible reason
Jarring
WOW SIR THIS IS EPIC THEY DO THE TIKTOK EFFECT!
fricking christ
cameron's shoestring future war sequence from terminator, shot against a table with miniatures, is cool, engaging, dynamic and looks amazing
this shit is just insulting, it makes you loose interest and fall asleep in 5 seconds
how can somebody be this devoid of imagination and creativity
Bollywood tier
Short hair works better on girls with cute faces while longer hair softens manfaces like sofias.
I am continually amazed at how Snyder causes so much seethe.
It's like the fact his movies exist is a personal affront and the rage just seeps from their pores. I don't know if it's magnified by butthurt Star Wars fans who hate everything now that their childhood was ruined but it is hilarious. Going through a Snyder thread you see people going after every little thing, because every piece and every frame must be awful to them. Case in point, there is a whole tangent in this thread of people attacking the fricking title drop.
Everyone is appalled because he started his career properly and had a string of hits then started to descend into ineptitude and delusion.
He singlehandedly made DC miss out on the comic book movie craze and likely cost them billions upon billions in missed profits. And now he's making shlock that's frankly embarrassing to even glance at.
>He singlehandedly made DC miss out on the comic book movie craze
You can hate Snyder's DC movies all you want but that was all incompetent execs at Warner. The best example is how they pushed for teamup movies before the solo movies came out to actually establish the characters.
In the time it took to launch three iron man movies and the first Avengers movie DC released 2 Aquaman movies despite the first being a massive hit. Warner missed that boat all on their own.
I am continually amazed at how much Snyder is willing to spend on astroturfing the illusion that he has a fanbase in threads like this.
Sofia sexo
The only character who piqued my interest was the robot. He's the only one that actually had something resembling a character arch.
There's such a lack of joy in this movie too. Even the scenes with the villagers felt...hollow. The delivery of the few jokes were so flat I damn near missed them. Someone pointed out that this movie was designed to make a cool trailer, I could also argue that every line of dialogue was designed for the same fate.
Will be watching part 2 for the robot though. Hope he gets Wandavisioned by the hiding princess - I mean - regular village girl.
It feels a lot like soosai squad in that every scene seems to be a trailer for the movie you're currently watching.