So for you youngin's, O&C was released to a great deal of marketing, promotion, and fanfare, and then stashed away in the Disney vault with hardly a mention until the mid-late 90s (10+ years after release.)
We're talking "The Black Cauldron" levels of obscurity. Disney had merchandising for nearly EVERYTHING they had licenses to and after 1990, O&C was a ghost. No posters, no toys, no stuffed animals, no VHS, no trinkets...nothing...not even at any of the various Disney parks in Florida.
It's a shame, because Billy Joel did a BANG UP job on the music and voicing Dodger. Even the definingly-80's opening theme performed by Huey Lewis was excellent. Still chokes me up when I see/hear it because the opening is so sad.
Ultimately, it's one of the weaker films in the Disney lineup, simply because it doesn't have a timeless script/presentation and capitalizes too much on pop culture for the narrative. Even though it's "Oliver Twist", it's missing the timeless connection that other adaptations have.
I still break into "Why Should I Worry?" from time to time over the last 30 years.
I just remember that this was in eht opening trailers for all sorts of stuff but was never shown on TV or anything and there were virtually no videos to ever rent of it
My dad was supposed to take me to see this movie. He dropped me off at the theater and left me by myself so he could go get drunk. I remember feeling kind of sad and abandoned the whole movie. Now I feel shitty.
Billy Joel is great but let's not forget this film also has Dom Deluise crushing it as usual. But to answer your question OP, yes it's kino. And underrated as frick.
The first 10 minutes are, the rest isn't quite kino but definitely one of the more underrated Disney films, plot is kinda lacking but something about the aesthetic of the whole thing still drags me in
Pretty much, it's largely because the studio didn't have much faith in this movie and rushed most of its production. Literally their shortest theatrical film that isn't Dumbo if I'm not mistaken
all the artwork makes it look like some third world direct to video flick.
The "Disney style" came to parody itself around that time, they just went to far with the anthropomorphizing.
You look at jungle book, lady&tramp or aristocats and the characters looked way more like animals and way less like people, it worked better.
I like it but I like all the dog (and Aristocats) movies outside of Lady and the Tramp (haven't seen Bolt). Wish they'd give it a rest with the princess shit, that was always a conflict in my house if we were going to watch a dog movie or princess movie.
It's my favorite, it's got an edge you really don't get in Disney movies until Pixar came along. Music is great, script does the flip flop between sad and funny but does it well because all those moments hit hard. The melodrama works for me unlike The Rescuers because the funny moments keep the movie feeling energetic. The 80s vibe dates it hard but also makes it more interesting to watch now.
Maybe its biggest flaw is it doesn't feel like a Disney movie at all. All Dogs go to Heaven comes to mind for a similar vibe but that one's a little too all over the place, Oliver's got a great focus and rapid fire pace, and I unironically put on the Huey Lewis song when I want to feel blue.
I really liked this movie as a kid and when our family adopted a kitty I picked out an orange tabby and named him Oliver. I really liked most animated movies with dog or cat protags but O&C had a particularly memorable look about it. I also now have an orange kitty now as an adult but I also liked Garfield as a child... Maybe I'm very susceptible to cat themed marketing?
Hidden kino. Idk about America but here in Italy no one knew about this movie and no one of my class mates believed it was a Disney movie, until I bought the VHS at school.
>tfw you have no savoire-faire
>tfw
So for you youngin's, O&C was released to a great deal of marketing, promotion, and fanfare, and then stashed away in the Disney vault with hardly a mention until the mid-late 90s (10+ years after release.)
We're talking "The Black Cauldron" levels of obscurity. Disney had merchandising for nearly EVERYTHING they had licenses to and after 1990, O&C was a ghost. No posters, no toys, no stuffed animals, no VHS, no trinkets...nothing...not even at any of the various Disney parks in Florida.
It's a shame, because Billy Joel did a BANG UP job on the music and voicing Dodger. Even the definingly-80's opening theme performed by Huey Lewis was excellent. Still chokes me up when I see/hear it because the opening is so sad.
Ultimately, it's one of the weaker films in the Disney lineup, simply because it doesn't have a timeless script/presentation and capitalizes too much on pop culture for the narrative. Even though it's "Oliver Twist", it's missing the timeless connection that other adaptations have.
I still break into "Why Should I Worry?" from time to time over the last 30 years.
I always kind of wondered why I knew it existed but never actually saw it anywhere.
Same. Makes sense now that it was the only disney movie that wasn’t a part of my childhood, because I was too old to care about it by 1996
>simply because it doesn't have a timeless script/presentation
Good, the 80s NY time capsule is refreshing
>O&C was a ghost. No posters, no toys
Wrong.
My big sisters used to scare me with the Oliver plush making music.
>No posters, no toys, no stuffed animals, no VHS, no trinkets.
what were these doing in my house the past 30 years then
Read the post he said AFTER 1990 it was a ghost
That tracks, I'm a zoom zoom and I remember watching this movie as a very young child
I just remember that this was in eht opening trailers for all sorts of stuff but was never shown on TV or anything and there were virtually no videos to ever rent of it
Man I remember seeing this in the theater and I never even knew it was a Disney movie.
80’s Disney was the shit. Frick the renaissance
There's like 2 incredible scenes and some neat use of early CG for the shot layouts, but mostly it's forgettable.
You can describe The Great Mouse Detective the same way.
They don't make em like they used to
i want to have sex with that poodle
Came here for this. She was unreasonably sexy for a cartoon dog.
God this was hot
>Someone made their dog a bed with a staircase and a platform composed of a dozen statues of their dog complete with mini dog vanity mirror
Wild stuff
My dad was supposed to take me to see this movie. He dropped me off at the theater and left me by myself so he could go get drunk. I remember feeling kind of sad and abandoned the whole movie. Now I feel shitty.
those dogs look frickable
No
WHY SHOULD I WORRY
WHY SHOULD I CARE
The moment disney stopped hand drawing shit is the moment the soul left everything they made
KEEP YO DWEAMS AWIVE
DWEAMIN IS STIW HOW DE STWONG SUWVIVE
ONCE APOAWWN A TIME
IN NEW YAWK THITY
This movie romanticized the frick out of NYC for me when I was a kid.
>That's not fair
>Fairs are for tourists kid
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Fair enough.
>Yeah well... We Didn't Start the Fire wasn't that good of a song
I'm more of a The Longest Time fan
"You mean "fares""?
The CHAD disney movie
I didn’t like how they killed the dobermans, even if they were le bad. Makes me sad still every time I see it
Billy Joel is great but let's not forget this film also has Dom Deluise crushing it as usual. But to answer your question OP, yes it's kino. And underrated as frick.
AWOOOOOGA
Urges I've repressed since childhood have come out full force with that pic
>present day
>Jenny outlived them all and is alone
The first 10 minutes are, the rest isn't quite kino but definitely one of the more underrated Disney films, plot is kinda lacking but something about the aesthetic of the whole thing still drags me in
It feels rushed, like it needed an extra 15 minutes runtime for you to care about anyone or anything that’s going on.
Pretty much, it's largely because the studio didn't have much faith in this movie and rushed most of its production. Literally their shortest theatrical film that isn't Dumbo if I'm not mistaken
Majorly
Decent for a Disney Dark Era film.
Did Jenny ever make anyone else feel funny…
I loved this movie as a kid. All I remember about it now is gayin being changed to a good guy and Sykes having a really nice car.
Why would they release this in theaters the same day as The Land Before Time goddamn they’re fricking stupid
No, not really.
This was the first DVD my mom bought when we got our first DVD player
all the artwork makes it look like some third world direct to video flick.
The "Disney style" came to parody itself around that time, they just went to far with the anthropomorphizing.
You look at jungle book, lady&tramp or aristocats and the characters looked way more like animals and way less like people, it worked better.
I like it but I like all the dog (and Aristocats) movies outside of Lady and the Tramp (haven't seen Bolt). Wish they'd give it a rest with the princess shit, that was always a conflict in my house if we were going to watch a dog movie or princess movie.
It's my favorite, it's got an edge you really don't get in Disney movies until Pixar came along. Music is great, script does the flip flop between sad and funny but does it well because all those moments hit hard. The melodrama works for me unlike The Rescuers because the funny moments keep the movie feeling energetic. The 80s vibe dates it hard but also makes it more interesting to watch now.
Maybe its biggest flaw is it doesn't feel like a Disney movie at all. All Dogs go to Heaven comes to mind for a similar vibe but that one's a little too all over the place, Oliver's got a great focus and rapid fire pace, and I unironically put on the Huey Lewis song when I want to feel blue.
I saw it at the theater when I was a kid and remember HATING it.
Was this the movie the theater poster was a big back drop of the city?
I really liked this movie as a kid and when our family adopted a kitty I picked out an orange tabby and named him Oliver. I really liked most animated movies with dog or cat protags but O&C had a particularly memorable look about it. I also now have an orange kitty now as an adult but I also liked Garfield as a child... Maybe I'm very susceptible to cat themed marketing?
Hidden kino. Idk about America but here in Italy no one knew about this movie and no one of my class mates believed it was a Disney movie, until I bought the VHS at school.