indeed "These androids are made of organic matter so similar to a human's that only a posthumous "bone marrow analysis" can independently prove the difference, making them almost impossible to distinguish from real people."
In the book replicants are incorrigible autistic monsters, psychopathic in thought in deed and beyond salvation. Deckards journey is him realizing that inhuman actions leads to him becoming less human, and that trying to humanize turly demonic creatures are futile. The movie is a complete 180 on the themes in comparison.
Having the read the book several times I still wonder what the point was.
If I had to guess right now it would be "Dont get your hopes up when you find an animal, it's probably fake".
The point was that engaging/emulating inhuman behavior will cause you to lose your humanity. Under the surface, it was just PKD venting about having to live in poverty and his inability to provide for his family.
Feminists and the me-too movement wish you to believe that the rape was included in the story becuase the director's advances towards the actor were declined, so he included the scene as a frick-you to the actress. The movie's 40th anniversary is the reason the story is back in the news currently and the reasons it's a target of attention seeking prostitutes (op).
In reality the actor was a batshit crazy c**t, who nobody in Hollywood wanted to work with. Also, the OP is a lonely woman in a house full of cats, she should take her meds.
If they wanted to make artificial people to essentially be slaves why even give them emotions, personalities and existential crises. Just implant the memories of one perfect, subservient autist who won't rebel in any way into all of them. It would be much more predictable to control them that way as well.
>a robot?
a gene-bred variant human with limited lifespan and limited emotional and mental depth despite intellect being sometimes more efficient than a baseline human that you have constructed artificially that also has a very limited lifespan, thus a limited neuro-physiology granting it superhuman abilities for a few years and then an untimely death?
It makes even more sense when you consider that Deckard may be a replicant. Replicants are shown to be extremely immature and they aren't in full control of their emotions. Roy goes from playing with boiled eggs to going on a murderous rampage.
Unironically it seems like a good incentive if you had to colonize some icy piece of shit moon or something.
Just move the robot pusy there and people will sign up.
Plus, you get the Leon models to do all the heavy lifting so you can probably get away with doing Can-D and fricking your robot waifu most of the day.
I bet you ask for consent before you touch a female, you fricking homosexual
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as if that somehow isn't the courteous thing to do? you have to make women comfortable, anon, then you truly will be a "homosexual" because she will reject your sorry ass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright you got me I thought you were serious
2 years ago
Anonymous
damn frick i thought i had it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Can't tell if a woman is into you unless asked
Are you autistic or something?
In the Blade Runner scene she's just discovered she's a replicant. She can't trust her memories, the people she thought were friends and family, she can't trust any sense of purpose she's had in her life until now. She doesn't feel like a real person anymore, she feels like a slave who's life is going to end much sooner than she expected.
The point of Deckard being assertive in that scene is that he's forcing her to confront what she wants, and the reality of her situation instead of running from in. He says "Now you kiss me" and she responds "I can't rely on my-" and he insists "Say: kiss me." Knowledge of her replicant status makes her believe she can't rely on how she feels or what she knows anymore, that what she wants isn't real because she's in a sense artifical and programmed, and Deckard deliberately makes her focus on and consciously acknowledge intrinsic, immediate visceral desire rather than any abstract, externally derived knowledge of herself. In the end, Rachel actively participates and escalates the encounter, saying "I want you" and then unmprompted "Put your hands on me." She's taking back the human parts of herself.
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The scene is actually important to the central thematic conflict of the film and its question of "humanity", of capacity for emotion, attachment and empathy being more important traits to determine one's humanity than just being made in a lab or not.
They aren't robots, they're artifically built humans with actual biological components. Closer to Frankenstein's monster than Pinnochio.
And they're illegal aliens whom don't have rights
well can i rape frankenstein, then?
what are the reprecussions
You have to ask Dr. Frankenstein for premission first
It would be extremely painful
indeed "These androids are made of organic matter so similar to a human's that only a posthumous "bone marrow analysis" can independently prove the difference, making them almost impossible to distinguish from real people."
>only a posthumous "bone marrow analysis" can independently prove the difference
Non-canon.
That verbal test they give them can tell them apart though. No bone marrow analysis is necessary
>can you rape a robot
I sure hope so
That whole scene is a testament to how hard the movie misses the point of the book
how so?
In the book replicants are incorrigible autistic monsters, psychopathic in thought in deed and beyond salvation. Deckards journey is him realizing that inhuman actions leads to him becoming less human, and that trying to humanize turly demonic creatures are futile. The movie is a complete 180 on the themes in comparison.
Having the read the book several times I still wonder what the point was.
If I had to guess right now it would be "Dont get your hopes up when you find an animal, it's probably fake".
The point was that engaging/emulating inhuman behavior will cause you to lose your humanity. Under the surface, it was just PKD venting about having to live in poverty and his inability to provide for his family.
Ah who decides whats a humane action? What is human? What humans can and cant do? Who should dictates the rules?
>Can you?
I'd rape that robot if you know what i mean
it wasnt rape, it was manly seduction, theres no rape without violence
>theres no rape without violence
idk, he seemed pretty aggressive in his approach
aggresive also known as assertive is what women want
she wanted it
Ugly moronic hair I hate it so much wish she blew smoke on my dick and balls Sneed and Chuck
if she wanted it why has she thrown up that smokescreen? checkmate rapists
playing hard to get
obviously she cant just come out and say I want your dickard
>stick dick in toaster
am i a rapist?
Did you obtain written consent from the toaster and its manufacturer?
you violated the toaster's machine spirit
Feminists and the me-too movement wish you to believe that the rape was included in the story becuase the director's advances towards the actor were declined, so he included the scene as a frick-you to the actress. The movie's 40th anniversary is the reason the story is back in the news currently and the reasons it's a target of attention seeking prostitutes (op).
In reality the actor was a batshit crazy c**t, who nobody in Hollywood wanted to work with. Also, the OP is a lonely woman in a house full of cats, she should take her meds.
/thread.
Yes.
Yes.
If they wanted to make artificial people to essentially be slaves why even give them emotions, personalities and existential crises. Just implant the memories of one perfect, subservient autist who won't rebel in any way into all of them. It would be much more predictable to control them that way as well.
wouldn't make for much of a book / movie if every replicant was a subservient tool
how do the replicants even know they aren't human? They have human memories, look human, feel emotions
If raping her was okay then the pigeon guy's death was also meaningless
Which, of course, it was.
>a robot?
a gene-bred variant human with limited lifespan and limited emotional and mental depth despite intellect being sometimes more efficient than a baseline human that you have constructed artificially that also has a very limited lifespan, thus a limited neuro-physiology granting it superhuman abilities for a few years and then an untimely death?
Replicants were just a slave race.
It was an immature expression of love. Deckard was angry that he was in love with the thing he was meant to kill.
>Can you even rape a robot?
The entire point of the scene was to ask that question.
It makes even more sense when you consider that Deckard may be a replicant. Replicants are shown to be extremely immature and they aren't in full control of their emotions. Roy goes from playing with boiled eggs to going on a murderous rampage.
>Can you even rape a robot?
they had pleasure models, so gene programmed orgy bawds.
Would you move to a colony if there were plenty of pris pleasure models for you to frick?
Make it a colony of 1980's Sean Young and yes
She looked like an elf
I want to drink from her stillsuit reservoir if you catch my drift
Unironically it seems like a good incentive if you had to colonize some icy piece of shit moon or something.
Just move the robot pusy there and people will sign up.
Plus, you get the Leon models to do all the heavy lifting so you can probably get away with doing Can-D and fricking your robot waifu most of the day.
don't you hate model downgrades
Imagine being overpowered and sucked off by a legion of robot young boys. Beep beep, must suck uncut wiener.
Beep beep! Cum.
i wish there was a version without the rape scene.
>rape
Its called having sex, you should try it.
yes, non-consensual sex.
You're an actual moron.
Play in traffic.
ok anakin skywalker over here.
I bet you ask for consent before you touch a female, you fricking homosexual
as if that somehow isn't the courteous thing to do? you have to make women comfortable, anon, then you truly will be a "homosexual" because she will reject your sorry ass.
Alright you got me I thought you were serious
damn frick i thought i had it.
>Can't tell if a woman is into you unless asked
Are you autistic or something?
in the book, did the replicants/androids know they had a limited lifespan or did they found out after some time. Did that cause the rebellion?
anybody remember the details regarding what the self-knowledge fo the replicants was? How limited was it?
Anyone who has ever given a woman sexual pleasure knows it was not rape
You have to understand anon, 99% of this board have zero experience with women, think women will respect them if they just be nice and gentle.
>hey Anon... what did you just say about my hair..?
In the Blade Runner scene she's just discovered she's a replicant. She can't trust her memories, the people she thought were friends and family, she can't trust any sense of purpose she's had in her life until now. She doesn't feel like a real person anymore, she feels like a slave who's life is going to end much sooner than she expected.
The point of Deckard being assertive in that scene is that he's forcing her to confront what she wants, and the reality of her situation instead of running from in. He says "Now you kiss me" and she responds "I can't rely on my-" and he insists "Say: kiss me." Knowledge of her replicant status makes her believe she can't rely on how she feels or what she knows anymore, that what she wants isn't real because she's in a sense artifical and programmed, and Deckard deliberately makes her focus on and consciously acknowledge intrinsic, immediate visceral desire rather than any abstract, externally derived knowledge of herself. In the end, Rachel actively participates and escalates the encounter, saying "I want you" and then unmprompted "Put your hands on me." She's taking back the human parts of herself.
?t=225
The scene is actually important to the central thematic conflict of the film and its question of "humanity", of capacity for emotion, attachment and empathy being more important traits to determine one's humanity than just being made in a lab or not.
TLDR: it wasn't rape it was just forced sex. Got it.
Have sex
Drink drain fluid
It wasn't even rape, you autists.
you're right it was just ultra non-consensual.
Just judes being judes and subverting the original message of the book.
Ridley Scott is English. The movie is 1000x better than the book too. The two are barely even similar.