well you can't really miss something you weren't around for
i missed it though, since i was around but my parents only had a tv with like 6 - 8 channels on it and only got a taste of them when i visited friends
I'd go ten years earlier. A lot of people say 9/11 was the beginning of the end, and in a lot of ways, they're right. But I'd say 2008/2009 and the housing crisis was even moreso. It was also when everyone jumped to corporate shit online like Facebook and many online spaces began to rapidly die.
This. The recession did more to frick things up than 9/11 ever did. You can pinpoint so much shit from stagnant wages to sjws on the recession. But anyway, 2000s weremore kino for cartoons early on than the 90s.
Yes, I would indeed say you missed out if you didn't watch those shows in their prime.
The last long period of good times. Good times had sort of a last hooraw in 2019 before everything went to shit.
2019 was the worst year of my life. For me, it was even worse than 2020. It was nightmarishly bad and it's only now, half a fricking decade later, that I'm dismantling the negative legacy of that year.
This. 1998 was like a different plane of existence from 1992. The 90s was the most changeful decade since the 60s.
Precisely this. You can always tell a zoomer by their misinformed idea of the 90s as uniform throughout. Aesthetically, artistically, politically, culturally, technologically- there was a lot of upheaval and paradigm shifts in a brief amount of time. It's almost always worth distinguishing between "early" and "late" when discussing the decade.
Maybe not golden age, but TV and Movies were far more willing to take risks and thus able to tell more and often times better stories than what we see now.
The Golden Age starts in the late 60s and declines in the early 2000s. So there was a large decades long run of original and quality programming. I think the peak year in all this is 1992. That's when cable becomes popular enough that it gives a unique voice to creators and has enough critical mass that it could become mainstream. But not so popular that it can overrun the market with slop.
Almost all media of that time is still accessible now, so you could judge for yourself. Though the above fact means the current age of media has everything the 90s had and more.
90s was the apex. Everyone was so hopeful of the future. Jurassic park .. imagine what kind of movies can be made with technology 30 years from now... Gaming, omg we have 3d games, can you imagine the kind of amazing games that can exist in the future?
It's actually incredible how everything went to shit. That CGI in movies actually got WORSE. that we have ZERO actors to carry on the legacy set by deniro, pacino, tom hanks, tom cruise, brad pitt, literally everyone we are just hanging onto even when they are now GRANDPAS like what the frick?? It's actually horrific how much everything went to shit and how disconnected everyone is now. It's horrific that Netflix is dependant on all antiquity like friends, sex and city, everything from 30 years ago. That Disney golden age and silver age is now replaced with...whatever the FRICK this shit is now. Pixar dead. Nickelodeon subsisting off of SpongeBob...zero new interesting IPs...avatar was the last good childrens show.
Last gasp of Silent Gen keeping a lid on the Boomer lumpenproles in the professional world in general. Weren't enough Gen Xers to recapitulate that (because Boomers aborted one third of them). And here we are. That and the Cold War 'peace dividend' freeing up capital and production for Kissinger's Bi-National Treason Foundations shunting manufacturing capacity to still Red China to make tchochkes for shows like that in combination with legislation preventing the creation of kids' shows just to sell product being removed and walla. There you go.
A lot changed throughout the 90s, and a lot wasn't for the better by the end. But yes, it was overall a great decade, especially compared to what came before and after. The early to mid 2000s era of "prestige" tv was good too though, but unfortunately also created a lot of shitty trends in tv that haven't gone away.
Not old enough in my opinion. I was born in 84, so admittedly, the earlier part of the decade is a bit cloudier for me. But all you have to do is go back and watch the media that came from the era and see that quite a bit holds up. Quite a bit also doesn't. MTV still focused somewhat on the M in the name and music still had guitars in it. I actually liked a lot of 90s fashion like wide leg jeans and more comfortable clothing.
The late 90s, when I was becoming a teen, were a different beast though. I'd say the shift began in 1997. Rock music started going out, and pop music like Hanson came in, leading the way to boybands and female pop singers. Which, in turn, caused the weird fracture between rock music like nu-metal and pop shit dominating. I feel like music videos hit their peak in the 90s. Some were genuinely well made.
The decade wasn't without its faults though. We had shit like Waco, moronic culture war shit not unlike now (you can even see people shit on the idea of political correctness in the early 90s), the OJ Simpson trial which was just one giant shitshow, and shows like the Real World which laid the groundwork for reality garbage to completely take over in the 2000s.
More than anything, I wish I could go back and see 90s era GWAR live.
Anime and manga were still fairly novel at the time. I remember going to local comic shops and the manga section being a rack that shared space with indie comics. Since I read indies, I'd pick up manga sometimes too. Mostly Gunsmith Cats. Back then, they were printed comic book floppy sized, and mirror imaged because companies thought it'd be too jarring for us westerners to read things like the Japs do. It made Gunsmith cats a bit of a nightmare at first, because the series has a lot of car chase scenes. But I got used to it. After the 2000s manga boom, they printed it in the smaller sized thick unflipped manga formats they use now.
Sailor Moon actually aired on UPN where I live two years before it hit Cartoon Network. It was at 2:30PM though, basically a death time slot since school didn't get out until 3PM.
the 90s and Early 2000s was the objective best time to be alive. You got reruns of classic old stuff and got great new stuff to run alongside them. toys, games, films, music, it was all there. And you saw it all grow. seeing the internaet become a thing was a thing of beauty.
1997 - 2006 was a time period that cant be topped.
The 70s as well, for one reason. FM radio was new at the time. So it was basically like the Internet of the late 90s, where not everyone had it and the ones who did were dedicated weirdos with actual interests for things. 70s FM radio played music and deep cuts the more commercial and conservative at the time Am radio wouldn't touch, and playing full albums was pretty common.
Radio began to get cucked by the late 70s and was full on corporate by the 80s and on into the 90s. Much like the Internet now.
This is the most accurate of these generation charts I've seen, because it focuses on big events of the time and the media. Most focus on dumb cultural/political stereotypes for each generation, which more often than not, get things wrong entirely.
yeah i was born in the 80s and always felt like i grew up with the stuff thats usually associated more with Gen-X and always felt like most stuff associated with millennial childhoods i was too old for, that was baby shit for me, calling people who were born in 1997 part of the same generation as me is moronic, i feel like every decade should be a different generation
1997 are zoomers, but yes, I get your point. And you are correct. A big problem with moronic articles about generations or any sort of discussion, as halfbaked as it is, involving generation divides, is it's too hard a divide. Each one blends intro another, that's why you get "early and "late" generation kids having things in common with what becomes before and after.
It leads to people adopting weird "micro-generation" labels like xennial, which is really just oldgay millennials who were successfully shamed by the media into only seeing negative stereotypes of a generation. It's basically not like other girls for generation discussion.
film - 1960s-1970s
music - probably 1960s-1970s too, don't know enough about this one
video games - SNES-PS2 era. Many people are nostalgic about the NES, but it's actually rather primitive. For PC games it's basically the same time period.
70's show was my favorite, nearly all comedy tv shows were White friend groups or family. It was a different time. The Ren & Stimpy Show, Batman, X-Men Animated Series & Silver Surfer. good stuff
I'm not sure that's a thing that can ever be reconciled. It seemed to get better in the late 90s and 2000s, but only seemed that way because in the early/mid 90s black actively cheered OJ getting away with a murder they knew he committed.
Occupy Wall Street being killed is what really signaled the true end of anything good. We'll likely never see any sort of class solidarity like that ever again. People went from being mad to just accepting a boot on their neck so they could get crap like free Amazon shipping and more LGBT stuff in cartoons.
Yes
Cool. A lot of people say it is. Like if you didnt experience the 90s you missed it.
well you can't really miss something you weren't around for
i missed it though, since i was around but my parents only had a tv with like 6 - 8 channels on it and only got a taste of them when i visited friends
No
The production and graphics were nicer, but the rot had already begun to set in.
So why do they say it was so good. With shows like...
What rot do you speak of anon
he obviously means israeli subversion
Yes.
yeah 90s was the pax americana
90s and 2000s were the last good times
He looks like he named his dogs sapphire, emerald and ruby
The last long period of good times. Good times had sort of a last hooraw in 2019 before everything went to shit.
2019? Shit went bad a long time before that?
maybe he's referring to covid
I'd go ten years earlier. A lot of people say 9/11 was the beginning of the end, and in a lot of ways, they're right. But I'd say 2008/2009 and the housing crisis was even moreso. It was also when everyone jumped to corporate shit online like Facebook and many online spaces began to rapidly die.
This. The recession did more to frick things up than 9/11 ever did. You can pinpoint so much shit from stagnant wages to sjws on the recession. But anyway, 2000s weremore kino for cartoons early on than the 90s.
Star Trek TNG
X-Files
Batman the Animated Series
Twin Peaks
The Simpsons
why is it always the fricking cartoons?
I mean people say it is the golden age of cartoons
that's what kids used to watch.
People born after 9/11 aren't really people.
problem is that the early 90s and late 90s are completely different universes
This. 1998 was like a different plane of existence from 1992. The 90s was the most changeful decade since the 60s.
What do you mean?
So you would say if you didnt watch dragon ball z, pokemon etc. then you missed out
Yes, I would indeed say you missed out if you didn't watch those shows in their prime.
2019 was the worst year of my life. For me, it was even worse than 2020. It was nightmarishly bad and it's only now, half a fricking decade later, that I'm dismantling the negative legacy of that year.
I mean i saw all that stuff but if 'you didn't have cable during the 90s you're a loser'
Precisely this. You can always tell a zoomer by their misinformed idea of the 90s as uniform throughout. Aesthetically, artistically, politically, culturally, technologically- there was a lot of upheaval and paradigm shifts in a brief amount of time. It's almost always worth distinguishing between "early" and "late" when discussing the decade.
Yes, the 90s was the Golden Age of cartoons and television. It was a happier, simpler and better time. We'll never get it back.
Maybe not golden age, but TV and Movies were far more willing to take risks and thus able to tell more and often times better stories than what we see now.
The Golden Age starts in the late 60s and declines in the early 2000s. So there was a large decades long run of original and quality programming. I think the peak year in all this is 1992. That's when cable becomes popular enough that it gives a unique voice to creators and has enough critical mass that it could become mainstream. But not so popular that it can overrun the market with slop.
Almost all media of that time is still accessible now, so you could judge for yourself. Though the above fact means the current age of media has everything the 90s had and more.
Yes. Literally every month from 1990-1999 had a classic movie released
Nostalgia and/or bad taste. Born in 1987. Even cartoons were pretty shit. There was nothing but episodic capeshit trash and similar junk.
Hollywood produced so much trite Oscar bait shit in that decade.
It's mostly foreign movies. Or like I said, bad taste. Normies thing Forest Gump or Shawshank Slop are amazing classics, so it's probably the latter.
How is it bad taste when everyone that was alive during the 90s brags about how television was the shit ex cartoons like dbz
DBZ is bad. It's objectively not good.
People love that shit though.
People love shit in general.
I grew up in the 90s and watched DBZ (also DB and DBGT). I actually never watched Avatar.
I'm sorry you had to grow-up with girl coded things like The Last Airbender.
it's actually good if you're not some tryhard "mature" homosexual trying to impress people who don't care about you.
90s was the apex. Everyone was so hopeful of the future. Jurassic park .. imagine what kind of movies can be made with technology 30 years from now... Gaming, omg we have 3d games, can you imagine the kind of amazing games that can exist in the future?
It's actually incredible how everything went to shit. That CGI in movies actually got WORSE. that we have ZERO actors to carry on the legacy set by deniro, pacino, tom hanks, tom cruise, brad pitt, literally everyone we are just hanging onto even when they are now GRANDPAS like what the frick?? It's actually horrific how much everything went to shit and how disconnected everyone is now. It's horrific that Netflix is dependant on all antiquity like friends, sex and city, everything from 30 years ago. That Disney golden age and silver age is now replaced with...whatever the FRICK this shit is now. Pixar dead. Nickelodeon subsisting off of SpongeBob...zero new interesting IPs...avatar was the last good childrens show.
There was so much absolute kino in the 90's and even early 2000's.
>you know... for the kids
Nostalgia. So many shit movies came out in the 90s
Last gasp of Silent Gen keeping a lid on the Boomer lumpenproles in the professional world in general. Weren't enough Gen Xers to recapitulate that (because Boomers aborted one third of them). And here we are. That and the Cold War 'peace dividend' freeing up capital and production for Kissinger's Bi-National Treason Foundations shunting manufacturing capacity to still Red China to make tchochkes for shows like that in combination with legislation preventing the creation of kids' shows just to sell product being removed and walla. There you go.
Flat was bad but the "photos of hideous nigs and interracials on everything" we have now is worse.
A lot changed throughout the 90s, and a lot wasn't for the better by the end. But yes, it was overall a great decade, especially compared to what came before and after. The early to mid 2000s era of "prestige" tv was good too though, but unfortunately also created a lot of shitty trends in tv that haven't gone away.
How old were you during the 90s? Do you have nostalgia? A lot of people loved the 90s and say its a decade you didnt want to miss.
Not old enough in my opinion. I was born in 84, so admittedly, the earlier part of the decade is a bit cloudier for me. But all you have to do is go back and watch the media that came from the era and see that quite a bit holds up. Quite a bit also doesn't. MTV still focused somewhat on the M in the name and music still had guitars in it. I actually liked a lot of 90s fashion like wide leg jeans and more comfortable clothing.
The late 90s, when I was becoming a teen, were a different beast though. I'd say the shift began in 1997. Rock music started going out, and pop music like Hanson came in, leading the way to boybands and female pop singers. Which, in turn, caused the weird fracture between rock music like nu-metal and pop shit dominating. I feel like music videos hit their peak in the 90s. Some were genuinely well made.
The decade wasn't without its faults though. We had shit like Waco, moronic culture war shit not unlike now (you can even see people shit on the idea of political correctness in the early 90s), the OJ Simpson trial which was just one giant shitshow, and shows like the Real World which laid the groundwork for reality garbage to completely take over in the 2000s.
More than anything, I wish I could go back and see 90s era GWAR live.
A lot of people loved the 90s for Dragon Ball Z, pokenon, sailor moon etc 'cartoon network was the shit'
Anime and manga were still fairly novel at the time. I remember going to local comic shops and the manga section being a rack that shared space with indie comics. Since I read indies, I'd pick up manga sometimes too. Mostly Gunsmith Cats. Back then, they were printed comic book floppy sized, and mirror imaged because companies thought it'd be too jarring for us westerners to read things like the Japs do. It made Gunsmith cats a bit of a nightmare at first, because the series has a lot of car chase scenes. But I got used to it. After the 2000s manga boom, they printed it in the smaller sized thick unflipped manga formats they use now.
Sailor Moon actually aired on UPN where I live two years before it hit Cartoon Network. It was at 2:30PM though, basically a death time slot since school didn't get out until 3PM.
Probably overrated. But being born in 1980 was a good time to grow up. Even if I’m old as shit now.
Born 92 here. All my classmates loved the 90s.
the 90s and Early 2000s was the objective best time to be alive. You got reruns of classic old stuff and got great new stuff to run alongside them. toys, games, films, music, it was all there. And you saw it all grow. seeing the internaet become a thing was a thing of beauty.
1997 - 2006 was a time period that cant be topped.
Decent/good for TV and movies
Based for Cartoons
Shit for music (except edm and Eurobeat)
Based for vidya
>90s
>Shit for music
the 90s was the only decade where you could actually hear good music on the radio
The 70s as well, for one reason. FM radio was new at the time. So it was basically like the Internet of the late 90s, where not everyone had it and the ones who did were dedicated weirdos with actual interests for things. 70s FM radio played music and deep cuts the more commercial and conservative at the time Am radio wouldn't touch, and playing full albums was pretty common.
Radio began to get cucked by the late 70s and was full on corporate by the 80s and on into the 90s. Much like the Internet now.
This is the most accurate of these generation charts I've seen, because it focuses on big events of the time and the media. Most focus on dumb cultural/political stereotypes for each generation, which more often than not, get things wrong entirely.
94 here. I grow up with ALL of that stuff because of reruns plus having cable.
yeah i was born in the 80s and always felt like i grew up with the stuff thats usually associated more with Gen-X and always felt like most stuff associated with millennial childhoods i was too old for, that was baby shit for me, calling people who were born in 1997 part of the same generation as me is moronic, i feel like every decade should be a different generation
1997 are zoomers, but yes, I get your point. And you are correct. A big problem with moronic articles about generations or any sort of discussion, as halfbaked as it is, involving generation divides, is it's too hard a divide. Each one blends intro another, that's why you get "early and "late" generation kids having things in common with what becomes before and after.
It leads to people adopting weird "micro-generation" labels like xennial, which is really just oldgay millennials who were successfully shamed by the media into only seeing negative stereotypes of a generation. It's basically not like other girls for generation discussion.
accurate this was literally my childhood, with a little bit of the late 80s stuff that carried over into the early 90s for a while like NES
no, it was the 80s
90's were great. You could basically put anything on TV as long as it wasn't nudity i miss MXC on Spike TV
film - 1960s-1970s
music - probably 1960s-1970s too, don't know enough about this one
video games - SNES-PS2 era. Many people are nostalgic about the NES, but it's actually rather primitive. For PC games it's basically the same time period.
It was a great time to be a kid
70's show was my favorite, nearly all comedy tv shows were White friend groups or family. It was a different time. The Ren & Stimpy Show, Batman, X-Men Animated Series & Silver Surfer. good stuff
Obama destroying race relations sure didn't help.
I'm not sure that's a thing that can ever be reconciled. It seemed to get better in the late 90s and 2000s, but only seemed that way because in the early/mid 90s black actively cheered OJ getting away with a murder they knew he committed.
Occupy Wall Street being killed is what really signaled the true end of anything good. We'll likely never see any sort of class solidarity like that ever again. People went from being mad to just accepting a boot on their neck so they could get crap like free Amazon shipping and more LGBT stuff in cartoons.