I looked up the gay kiss scene on Tiktok and lit's literally the blink of an eye. Barely a sexual kiss like in Disney princess movies. Are you telling me this nostalgia cashgrab with a trash plot would have done better at the box office is they removed that 2 second scene?
Despite what this board will tell you, the average normalgay doesn't know and doesn't care. The real problem is that nobody gives a shit about this movie in general.
sorry but it's true. the movie bombed hardest in the Midwest and South. it did best in the West. you had countries banning it. it was absolutely the reason it bombed.
people might be tolerant of LGBTQ but that shouldn't be confused with acceptance and most certainly not something suitable for children.
believe what you want and watch the next LGBTQ kids move flop too.
>it did best in the West.
I feel like that was only BECAUSE of the controversy, lots of "own a Republican, watch Lightyear" purchases
Do you have the link for this? I'd like to see how movies perform in different regions.
then why did dr strange 2 do so well? one of the main characters openly has two moms and has a pride/progress flag pin on her jacket the whole movie
oh, i guess "go woke go broke" only is actually an argument when it's convenient
Different optics for including LGBT propaganda
Lightyear is a PG kids cartoon.
Dr. Strange is a PG-13 borderline horror Marvel movie.
Strange-
>Rated PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and action, frightening images and some language.
Lightyear-
>Rated PG for action/peril
Gay stuff has been in film for decades, but only recently have they been trying to make it accessible for kids.
Nice gaslighting homosexual.
k.y.s.
>the average normalgay doesn't know and doesn't care.
Normalgays kept bringing it up to me.
This. If I had the time to watch a movie, I'd rather choose Everywhere All at Once than this, which I did. Coincidentally, after returning from the cinema I saw a critic saying that Lightyear doesn't have anything groundbreaking and plays too safe in the lane. It was around a few days before there was an announcement about some middle east countries and chink banning the movie.
Oh well, more the reason for me not to see it.
Fpbp /thread
morons
Everyone cares. That's the thing. White morons who want to look progressive care by constantly mentioning that they don't care or that they embrace it. Few Indian and Turkish minorites at my workplace get triggered when I ask them if they took their kids to watch the new Disney movie and start uncomfortably talking about the movie not representing their religion etc.
Incorrect. They do know. The very fact they had to expend energy to be vigilant is the issue. These movies are supposed to be parenting breaks. This is a massive issue for Disney. Huge mistakes. Forced errors due to BlackRock ESG.
Every normie in my family mentioned this exact kiss with disgust
> the average normalgay doesn't care
Actually they do. Everyone in my cinema laughed at the two moms scene in doctor strange.
>the average normalgay doesn't know and doesn't care
that is absolute nonsense
It's a bit of both.
Ukraine Lost
Roe Lost
Lightyear Lost
>NO HAPPENINGS
>NO CIVIL WAR
>NO WALL
>NO MORE SCOOPS
>BIDEN IS PRESIDENT
>TRUMP IS BANNED ON TWITTER
>ROE V WADE OVERTURNED WILL GALVINIZE DEMS FOR YEARS
>NO MORE HOT WHITE WOMEN IN SHOWS
>INCELS WILL CONTINUE TO BE RIDICULED AND OFF THEMSELVES
>YOU CANNOT AND WILL NEVER HAVE SEX
meds
Frick off you nonce
This for 70% but a good 30% are actively evangelical and they won't watch it because of this garbage.
My normal gay friends (theyre also parents) brought it up to me.
First post fricking best post
I give zero fricks about Disney, especially now that they literally control the Oscars and will prevent any other animated movie from winning.
Just fyi, the ones replying that you're wrong are likely indian/mexican
Toy Story loregays we’re upset because it retcons the animated Buzz Lightyear series
Tim Allen fans upset because he was replaced/canceled
Conservative families upset because of identity politics and a lesbo kiss
SJWs upset because Pixar initially removed the kiss and only put it back to grovel/pander
Disneyland/Disney parks fans upset this movie is rumored to take over classic Space Mountain
Train your core audience to watch movies on your streaming service (which is hemorrhaging money) instead of paying to see it in theaters
Lead actor comically insults everyone who would prefer to keep identity politics out of their entertainment and compares them to the subject of the more popular movie released the week before
Can’t even finish first at the BO in it’s opening weekend with no other major release, drops 70% in its 2nd and gets BTFO by another movie in its 5th week
It’s disaster flop-kino and should be studied for generations
Very concise breakdown anon.
Thank you anon this cured my depression
It cheers me up when I look at it too. Glad to help.
I was 2yo 30 years ago. You are probably right tho.
Yes. This is what the people asking "what's the big deal" don't understand. It always starts small and grows. Drag queens and pride marches in kids Blue's Clues already, the way has been paved. Disney is just waiting to go down it further.
This. Honestly luca was was more woke but no one really cares about a toy story spinoff.
Luca wasn't woke at all.
>Boy discovers himself and gets his boy/friend accepted as an immigrant into a small village
More woke than lightyear by a mile
I mean, sure, if you want something to be woke, you will find it. Everything can be interpreted as woke somehow.
That's why you can easily find more things to interpret as woke than lightyear in basically every Pixar movie over the last decade. Other than the kiss there's basically nothing to grab onto
>NOOOOO IT MUST BE IDENTITY POLITICS!!! LE WOKE LE BROKE!!!!!!
Holy shit you really got them fuming with this one.
It's a bit of both. Woke moments are an indicator of low quality in general. Even if the kiss wasn't there the people who made it still wouldn't have had any talent.
Movies live or die by advertising. Nobody knows if it's good or bad until after they've seen it. Good or bad is irrelevant.
As for all the winging about the kiss. Conservatives are a cult. It controls their every thought and their every opinion. They aren't capable of viewing a movie on its actual merits or detractors. They only see their personal politics.
Nice projection, lefty. The movie is so blatant in its gay agenda you'd have to be moronic not to notice it.
>Conservatives are a cult. It controls their every thought and their every opinion.
There is more diversity of thought among conservatives than there is among libtards. Every other say some libtard goes on an apology tour for the sake of other libtards.
>There is more diversity of thought among conservatives than there is among libtards
lol
lmao
If that were true, a good percent of conservative arguments wouldn't be the equivalent of word for word copypastas parroted off other people
I'll give that to you, libtards have diverse thoughts on a lot of stuff. Like what a woman is
>lefties calling anyone else a cult
lel
>Movies live or die by advertising
Yes and the Marketing for this shows a lot of annoying brown people that nobody cared about instead of Buzz Lightyear being a space ranger.
nice bait
>conservatives are a cult
>THIS CHILDRENS MOVIE MUST HAVE A LESBIAN KISS SO HELP ME G*D
>Conservatives are a cult.
Holy shit this is funny. So blindly un self-aware. I wonder why even normies are fricking through with you insane worthless NPCs
>Conservatives are a cult
>Waylan-Yutani
Why? Was it the troony in the first movie?
More like weyland-yutroony lmao gotem
Capitalism and Freemasonry are the core pillars of America as a nation, and arguably of Anglo-Saxon civilisation as a whole
I don’t think conservatives are the ones who made the film
Says the liberal homosexuals who put gay buttsex in a kids cartoon.
It led to the film being banned in several lucrative markets, so yes. As far as westerners go, this scene isn't a big deal, but the "bigots hate our movie and we'll be glad when they die" marketing push was a huge mistake. Even if you like lesbians, this just associates your movie with bad vibes. Not what you want with a summer family film
I 100% believe that Disney put the homosexual shit back into the movie specifically so it would be banned in a bunch of countries. They did it so the tide of news stories about the movie being banned for the homosexual shit would drum up a ton of outrage and free advertising. Outrage advertising has been the big thing for a while now, and China has already banned all of Hollywood from their market so putting that stuff in there can't hurt them as much as it could have before.
Yes.
whos the fricking audience for thos film?
Children
then why was the trailer all serious?
>whos the fricking audience for thos film?
ME.
I wanted to see this but then the ~~*media*~~ told me that I was racist/sexist/homophobic if I didn't go see it before it even came out. So frick them. It's white straight males that are the core demographics of most of fandom. We're the ones who have supported these franchises and I.P.'s for decades. But SJW's who hate WSM's use "diversity" as their Trojan Horse to attack us by making trash loaded with identity politics that just isn't entertaining and that's because their only goal is to have a reason to call us names like the fricking infants they are!!!FACT!!!
Liberal college kids who grew up with toy story and love consooming and want to see progressiveness
This is the issue, the people who grew up on toy story movies are old now, they don't care anymore
I would see another Buzz/Woody movie
gays
People with a ladyBlack fetish.
Even one second is enough for propaganda to plant an idea on a normal kids mind, parents better avoid it alltogether.
I'm waiting for the streaming rip to make a family friendly version
>lesbians
>black woman
>with a kid
They really went for the homerun huh
Nah one of them wasn't disabled
but there is one on the right?
One of them is colorblind, which is why she married another nigress.
Am I the only one noticing the black lesbian character trend lately? They are absolutely everywhere
Cause it's fake and forced
Have you noticed that they're also overwhelmingly cops?
Demoralization: not just for white people anymore!
The movie failed because that's the canon.
It's the reason why there are so many unsold Buzz toys in Toy Story 2
Oooh, meta
The mouse wins again. 4D Chess while you drooling playing checkers chuds.
DEEPEST LORE
Well that would be a neat thought except Tour Guide Barbie explains the reason for the surplus Buzz Lightyears is because the manufacturers didnt properly anticipate Buzz's popularity the first time around.
Well of course she's going to say that isn't she? She thinks her paycheck depends on it.
>the toys don't sell because... uhh... because he's too popular! Yes, that's why!
Thats not what i said, chud. They sold very well and thats why they made so many. Learn reading comprehension. Also frick Black folk
Watch TS1 again, Buzz was a hit between boys
Those were the ones based on
Lightyear bombed and it was BLOSC that saved the IP.
The movie looked kind of neat but Disney can't really walk back demanding gay sex be taught to five year olds. It's not really justifiable in any way and they decided to die on that hill for some reason. Keep in mind that the crew put the kiss in the movie just out of spite that they didn't get their way. That's what made people avoid this movie.
its not about sex. its about showing them that its normal for men to love men and for women to love women. its so they grow up to be tolerant and not hateful just because someone is differant. so get over it you fricking geezer
aka, brainwashing
Bro all of modern human civilization and culture is "brainwashing". I promise you the brainwashing that pushes hyper capitalist paradigms and conspicious consumption is far more pernicious to kids longterm wellbeing and happiness than kids knowing gay people exist.
The entire MO of the modern world is to keep adults vaguely disatisgied and in constant financial slavery and always wanting, always consuming, always feeling inferior for not having the right branding and the right possessions.
have a nice day, homosexual. Degeneracy will never be accepted in civilized society.
It's the other way around. Primitive societies are less likely to accept "degeneracy" while more civilized ones embrace it.
dude its 2022 we are way past hate and intolerance . now its all about grooming
Frick you
it is not normal. there are a lot of ways to show tolerance in differences, just put different races there, and tropes like the nerd, the jock, the goth, the playful-oh they've done that? good, no need to add the sexual orientation too in a kids movie
OK, so men and woman should not be kissing in these kind off movies then either by that logic.
"normal" defined how and by who homosexual?
>homosexuality practiced by a tiny minority
>is by definition abnormal
>higher rates of STDs
>more degeneracy and higher counts of sexual partners
>relationships don't last as long
>the only group that wants to show off their fetishes at rallies in front of children
>they're totally normal guys
>its about showing them that its normal for men to love men and for women to love women
>normal
>self identify as “queer”
>not normal
>at all
>tiny minority of biologically invalid humans are homosexual
>the other 98% find it disgusting
Yeah bro, you’re totally not out of touch with reality
ok groomer
>same-sex love
>normal
Anon, I'm not even saying it should be banned or something like /misc/Black folk would tell you but holy shit that's not normal at all.
Almost 90% and over people in the WORLD are heterosexual, that's a clear indication of what normal is.
And again, normal doesn't mean necessarily better but fricking hell don't be so fricking deluded about what normal means, stupid fricking c**t.
So by your logic (normal = majority) left-handed people aren't normal. Should we be treating them differently too?
No one said that, just that it's not normal. No, left-handed people are not the norm.
It's about brainwashing. They have a huge portion of the audience that is not ok with it. They need to either make movies neutral or put disclaimers for this LGBT nonsense. There is a reason you never see anything related to religion in kids movies anymore but they are ramping up this homosexual nonsense. It absolutely is not normal
No, you fricking moron. You got gaslighted by the leftist articles trying to mock conservatives. The entire main plot of the movie does actually revolve around the lesbian relationship. It's not just a 2 second kiss scene. It's a lot of scenes showing the lesbians being together, holding a baby, and this being the main motivation for Buzz not wanting to change the past. The entire movie is some weird lesbian drama with some sci-fi thrown in the middle.
>All of these people that didn't watch this shit movie except for this guy
You should all have a nice day and Disney properties should spontaneously combust.
And not to mention that Zurg, who is an older Buzz from an alternate timeline, is the villain because he wants to go back in time to fix the mistake he made in the beginning of the movie, which would erase the relationship between Hawthorne and the jap altogether.
Look in his eyes Cinemaphile. Those are the eyes of a man who regrets letting an interracial lesbian marriage happen while trying to fix his own mistake.
...i thought Zurg was Buzz' dad
How many times are we gonna sit back and just accept Hollywood bringing back old heroes just to turn them into pathetic simps? It's a complete cliche at this point.
....SO...LOOPER. HOLY SHIT, GET YOUR OWN IDEAS
It wasn't the only reason, but it basically sums up everything wrong with Disney today.
That wasn't the reason, it was:
-Pixar employee's virtue signaling too hard over the kiss being cut, then re-added (more than likely the kiss was going to be cut internationally like they always do and they just wanted it to be in every version this time).
-The movie being bland. There's nothing groundbreaking about the plot, and as a movie about Buzz Lightyear, everyone wanted a space adventure movie and this just isn't it. Even before it released, the trailers didn't do anything to capture anyone's excitement. When the highlight of your movie is the mascot character that only exists to sell toys, you messed up.
>Even before it released, the trailers didn't do anything to capture anyone's excitement. When the highlight of your movie is the mascot character that only exists to sell toys, you messed up.
This is true and not talked about enough. Normally the ads focusing on a comic relief character are for getting kids to see it again weeks after relief, but every spot I saw for Lightyear was just "it's buzz and he has a funny cat!", even before release. None of the marketing looked interesting at all
It would seem not casting Tim Allen
>lets make a movie for little boys but lets make the hero a gay, get a black girl as our protagonist and shove a bunch of lesbians in it
yeah if they made a movie for little boys maybe it would have done ok
Current Disney is making late Eisner era look like the golden age in comparison. Both the films and the parks are going to shit.
>Was this 2 second kiss scene really the reason why this movie bombed at the box office?
No its because nobody fricking wants a rehash buzz lightyear movie
It’s both, many of the people avoiding it because of the gay propaganda aren’t as vocal on the internet and are just quietly ignoring it and people who did go see it are giving it very poor word-of-mouth because their kids were bored.
It's a movie for kids released during a month that celebrates child-murder and grooming. Most people will assume that they themselves can resist any messaging in a movie, but, their kids?
Safer just not to risk it.
tiktok is literally the number 2 most downloaded app in the world.
being against "le current thing" doesn't make you cool
whatever man this shit's boring who cares
This might have been said, but aren't these toys? Buzz is a toy, Zerg is a toy, I have to imagine that they made two toys lesbian for the sake of inclusion
They are saying its the kiss not to offend the Black folk
OP, no, but Disney shills and SJW lapdogs are pretending it is by claiming that it failed because of evil white straight males!!!FACT!!!
Yes.
gay fatigue is in full force.
ITS A KIDS MOVIE
FRICK OFF
next you homosexuals will be saying "why not flash a dick on screen for 2 seconds, it's just 2 seconds!"
face the wall
>Are you telling me this nostalgia cashgrab with a trash plot would have done better at the box office is they removed that 2 second scene?
its a shit film regardless, but the kiss is the shit covered cherry on top
obviously not its because no one wants to see a buzz lightyear movie
so they have to make up a controversy to remind people it exists
>no one wants to see a buzz lightyear movie
FRICK OFF...
I wanted to see a cool pulpy Sci-fi adventure and I'm not even that much of a fan of the original Toy Story films!!!FACT!!!
Wow a real boomer stumbled his way onto Cinemaphile
My main issue is that this is supposed to be a film from 1995
why would you have this in your movie? are these 2 really that interesting or important characters that you had to have them kiss? No. They are kissing cause they want to send the message. People are tired of message. End of fricking story.
sodomy is so disgusting
The whole movie is woke bullshit. Buzz lightyear was was written as a comedic relief dipshit who kept getting himself into trouble and a black woman had to save him over and over again. There's actually a running joke in the series where he keeps getting attacked by giant plant tentacles and someone else has to save his ass every fricking time. It's 2 hours of anti-machismo, the future is feminine horseshit.
Yeah, and that running gag is cringe as frick, why the hell they added it. It just cringe and non sensical, and doesn't have any connection to the plot.
Why would you lie about this. Buzz is written straight laced and dedicated to the mission as frick while its his side kicks that are pure comedic relief with the space cadet afraid of space, taika waititi at his worst and an unholy combination of the old lady and french explosives dude from Atlantis. The tentacles also grabbed plenty of people in the base (though it was primarily buzz, a weird joke they forget about halfway through).
The movie was plenty bad in its own right to justify it flopping, why would you bother outright lying about the movie?
>you decide to cut a scene
>then you virtue signal about you adding the scene back
Half yes, half no.
It got the film banned in many countries that cut its profits a whole lot and made some controversies domestically, but it’s more of a red flag telling me it’s going to be bad.
>Movie is a meta-ish narrative, as it’s the film that got Andy excited into Buzz Lightyear
>This is incredibly stupid since the film makes Buzz look like a fricking incompetent whimp
>There is also the fact that the only returning character is really Buzz
>None of the Star Command characters appear at all, despite narratively Buzz Lightyear being a brand in-universe
>There are aliens and robots, but are very uncommon
>Instead of the team Buzz had in Star Command with an alien princess redhead, an red egg-shaped janny, and the immortal robot, with itself is pretty diverse, we get bland human astronauts that somehow get pregnant with kissing
>Film also has Buzz from the future be Zurg or something
>This is supposedly also from the 90s as well as well as the “real Buzz” what ever that means
>Also no Tim Allen as Buzz because this film is clearly more about politics and Disney now hates him
>They don’t even get Patrick Warburton even though he voiced Buzz in the cartoon because they apparently hated the show
The only reasons why they have the Lesbians in the film is because they can just call anyone criticizing the film homophobes, and so they can get that Blackrock money.
The film flopped, but it doesn’t matter since it raises their ESG score to pay off the losses.
the lesbian scene wasn't supposed to be in the movie but LGBTQ employees made a stink about it and Chapek caved under pressured.
they want to pay for being woke so be it.
source on this? Way to listen to your crazy employees.
>Film also has Buzz from the future be Zurg or something
What? In toy story they use him for a literally star wars joke, why they retconned this?
Zurg is the entire emotional heart of this movie, because he's a Potential Future Buzz that has continued being obsessed with "the mission" instead of valuing friendship
>the big bad is not being a heckin friend goyarino
Frick, no wonder it bombed.
I don't doubt Disney hates the Toolman and I don't care about Evans enough to see him as he is a preachy homosexual but Allen is in talks to make another Santa Clause movie so they are at least speaking
>“Scott Calvin is near the very edge of his 65th birthday celebration and understands that he can’t be Santa until the end of time.
>He’s beginning to lose a stage in his Santa obligations, and all the more significantly, he has a family who could profit from a daily existence in the ordinary world, particularly his two children who have grown up at the Pole.
>With a ton of mythical beings, kids, and family to please, Scott embarks to track down an appropriate substitution Santa while setting up his family for another experience in a daily existence south of the pole.”
This is the official synopsis for The Santa Clause 4. It's literally going to be "you are pale, male, and stale. We're replacing you with a black lesbian." They're going to give Tim Allen one final paycheck, just so they can spit on the one remaining thing in his legacy.
Lots of your reasons are more about why people wouldn’t like the movie, rather than why they wouldn’t see it. No one knows what’s in the movie until they see it. This movie failed because it made people not want to see it. And why didn’t people want to see it? I think the main reasons are:
1. People like toy story, not a real life buzz going on what’s advertised as a serious mission. It just looked boring and had no real connection to the franchise people love.
2. Woke fatigue is real, and the advertisements sure as hell made it look like another woke film to most normies.
3. It’s a kid movie and kids nowadays don’t care about buzz lightyear, and the trailer didn’t make it look like an exciting kids movie
The advertising just made the movie look boring and woke. Take away the wine shit it’d still bomb although I’m sure if the movie actually looked fun and exciting and you kept the wine shit in it would have been profitable.
It bombed because the kids who loved Buzz Lightyear are childless in adulthood.
It failed because it was fricking shit and nobody asked for it.
Probably the forced diversity and the fact that buzz lightyear is nothing like anything in this movie.
It was over the second they changed buzz VA to Chris Evans. I lost all interest the second they did that.
What were they supposed to do? Chris Evans just starred in the highest grossing movie of all time. Tim Allen is a boomer conservative on Twitter.
And look what happened. Lol.
>What were they supposed to do?
Not change the VA.
But if they went with Tim Allen, along with being politically disadvantageous, that might muddle the idea of this being based on the character rather than the toy. It would confuse people.
how about fricking childrens movie production companies spend more time making movies for children and less time sucking leftist wiener
>that might muddle the idea of this being based on the character rather than the toy
Because the idea the toy might use voice clips from the movie is just so crazy for the average consumer, the fact that he looks closer to a person and not like a toy just couldn't help their poor confused little minds and seriously how the frick are defenders of this dumpster fire so stupid
how is what they did not MORE confusing
>Chris Evans just starred in the highest grossing movie of all time
Probably should have thought about what happened with RDJ and Dolittle. Nobody gives a frick about Chris Evans unless he's in his gay little mask throwing his death frisbee at aliens
Chris Evans played a role in an Ensemble cast. He was not the main character not the leading star.
>What were they supposed to do?
Cast Tim Allen? They weren't forced into a position where they couldn't use Tim Allen, they choose not to so it because they're fricking idiots.
>Chris Evans just starred in the highest grossing movie of all time
You are wrong. "Captain America" is popular and no one cares about Chris Evans. They all know this.
Tom Cruise is the last movie star
Yes, most people are braindead pigs who love to eat slop. Almost all of those shitty soulless Disney remakes made money.
The right has adopted the tactics of the left and are using cancel culture to great effect.
It doesn't matter what it was it matters what the perception is.
Any sniff of degeneracy will be reason to attack and it will work.
It’s about fricking time
Good.
Buzz is not even the hero in his own movie. He gets upstaged by le clever strong female who don't need no man
It's not the kiss, it's the fact that their marketing was based around it. People are sick of libtard's shit
It was also the Black folk
This. The real problem with this movie is too many ugly minorities. They could at least make the minority characters attractive looking. Ugly minority women kissing is fricking disgusting whereas many would pay good money to watch a zendaya/Isabella moner kiss.
You will never see attractive black women in woke shit. It breaks their internal sense of coddling blacks and treating them as pets. It also destroys their sense of virtuous superiority.
How was the movie in general? Worth seeing?
I've heard it was Disney+ fodder.
aaaaaaaaauuuuuugggggggrrhhhhhooooooooooo
the movie sucks. not front loaded bad word of mouth. the disney fan base is blown out of proportion
naked men is allowed
2 men kissing and two women kissing is allowed
women dressing sexy clothes are not allowed
lucky for disney that american women are not like japanese and european women
is allowed
who the frick is the last one?
Bries potato face
Im racist, sexist, and homo"phobic" (why would I be scared of a homosexual?) and even i could not give less of a shit about two women kissing in an animated film that nobody cares about. They just put it in their to stir up controversy and market their shitty nostalgia cash grab. Did their lesbian relationship add anything to the plot? Did the fact that its an interracial relationship add anything to the plot? No. Bought and paid for by Larry Fink. Shameless bullshit.
Anon if you looked up anything about this movie at all in interviews or from the people working on it they would not shut the frick up about this damn kiss and how important it is.
It doesn't matter if it's barely in the movie, it apparently was the one fricking hook this thing had and people googling it couldn't escape hearing about it. This is the equivelent of the second Spongebob movie only showing the CGI stuff that's at best 15 minutes out of the movie, except unlike that movie this managed to turn people away.
Yep. Its a symptom of the pussification of Western society. Everyone has to b***h about something, but because its against liberal pandering its based or whatever. But really it just boils down to one thing: Being a soft b***h that cries about a 2 second clip in a kids movie.
disney always does THE RIGHT THING
>It's been over a decade since people cared about buzz lightyear specifically
>Disgusting uncanny valley character design
>Color palate that drains any wonder the universe might have, supposed to trick you into thinking the movie is more serious than it is
>Nothing to draw young boys in
>Clearly shoved in the lesbian shit to deflect criticism but all it did was get the movie banned in a bunch of countries and turn off normal suburban parents
i couldnt care less about Black folk or homosexuals. the only reason why i didnt watch it is because it looks awful. WHY MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THAT? like, damn, dude. just go full cartoon or make it a live action. that shit looks hideous.
It was start with a little petal. Let call this petal light-year. Following? This is the real havy redpill
The tree groaned "ah" it said. The tree moaned "oof imma going to drop more SEEDs". And it did. And it was....good. For that is the purpose of any good tree; the drop seeds and basically reproduce.like a woman FRICKING in the moonlight wearing nothing but a smile and cheap plastic heels, this is the way of the world.
The "tree" is Disney. The SEEDs are "content".
The SEEDs fall and grow. Perhaps one is A 101 History of black. Lots in israelitelywoof. Perhaps another is 1000 ways YOU are israelite. Either way or either or this seed is now a tree...because .. YOU let it. Why? Would you let Hitler grow past a child if you went back in time? No? Then why Lightyear? Ponder on it and ponder on the like scheme of undermining the christian morals of our very planry something, by the way, these "rats" have become sososo very adept with
Finneas out
Take your meds
No, but it's the reason it got funded in the first place.
No one asked for a Buzz Lightyear movie like this, in current year.
But if the studio can shit out something that will make Blackrock like them more then so be it.
Yes it was, as well as the virtue signalling that accompanied it.
it honestly feels like if it was her movie, and buzz just happened to be close.
im glad people picked up this shit, it gives me hope of a world free of globohomo.
the majority of the world would be ok with throwing homosexuals off rooftops anon
and no im not just talking about the muslims
I saw the movie and rolled my eyes when it happened. They really fricked up. The rest of the movie is good and I know exactly zero other people that saw it. They lost so much fricking money doing this.
I think it's just like with Atlantis the Lost Empire and Treasure Planet. Disney pours tons of money into them thinking that it'll make as much money as their other movies, but by making a movie that only little boys will want to watch you're severely limiting your audience.
Not directly. But the fact it was being used as a marketing stunt is what did it.
Notice they called it "same-sex kiss" not "lesbian kiss".
Then there's the fact that it's another black woman is the real hero in a movie named after the white male hero.
Would have loved to take my kids to see this but the kiss is a dealbreaker. No parent of good moral standing would subject children to it. If they show enough interest I figure I'll torrent it so they can watch at home and splice the kiss scene out in premiere.
>Are you telling me this nostalgia cashgrab with a trash plot would have done better at the box office is they removed that 2 second scene?
The black women would still be in the film
>the gay kiss is actually just an easily editable lesbian kiss
Lol everytime
>Are you telling me this nostalgia cashgrab with a trash plot would have done better at the box office is they removed that 2 second scene?
Yes. Regardless of the quality of the rest of the film, the overall discussion was completely dominated by this one scene. Positive coverage or negative coverage doesn't matter, it was all focused entirely to this specific scene and people argued for it or against it. Any actual information about the film itself, plot, characters, music, set pieces, whatever, none of that was discussed. You talk to anyone about the movie and the only thing they're going to know is that it has 2 girls kissing in a children's movie.
The media is doing its best to downplay the effect the scene had. It's true that no one wanted to see a Buzz Lightyear movie and that it had a host of other issues, you cannot deny that the gay kiss WAS the major talking point and drowned out any and all marketing the film had. Everyone is trying their best to not blame the LGBT pandering agenda.
Are there even aliens in this movie?
Nobody cares about the gay kiss. Everyone is just tired of Black folk.
I'm not tired of Black folk. I only tire of them if they're not cute and don't date white guys.
True. I feel like I am living in The Planet Of The Apes right now
The folks I've spoken to, family and coworkers with kids, chose not to see it because it's a kid's movie that promotes homosexual shit. None of them cared about the brown characters made up for the movie. The only person I know who did go see it is a full grown man with no children or significant other.
Good. Even a kiss is terrible. Hopefully we see more movement in this direction
WAS THAT A BRIEF KISS?
AAAAAA I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE!!!!
It's just a shit movie.
That would explain the huge drop off but not the poor opening. You have to find the real reason why people were put off before it even hit theaters
No insemination scene? Laaame.
I think it was a mix between bad trailers, people knowing it was not toy-story, no Tim Allen. The gay kiss current-year-politics-must-be-included-thing didn't help, but hard to know how big an effect.
I have no interest in uuglyass lesbos and their dysfunctionnal family.
Wait, how do they have a kid?
You don't have two mom's?
insemination, happens in current world too. A worse example is in the dragon prince netflix show (fantasy), where 2 lesbos have an heir.
>dragon prince
Isn't there magic in that, or am I thinking of something else?
There's magic, sure, but do you mean they magically move a clumb of jizz in her, or that the child is magical in origin?
hopefully yes. frick this diversity and gay pandering
I read the plot and the bad guy they are facing to me seemed too stupid, so I won't watch it even when it comes out online, but not because of "dem homies".
Even if silly how they push that, in Frozen 2 the city became overnight 90% black people, which is stupid given where they are, if they actually cared about diversifying they would have added the sort of ethnicities who could be there.
lolno
The problem is nobody gives a shit about a Buzz Lightyear movie.
far righties are no different than far lefties in that they are incredibly fragile.
was sagron, dare i say it, right?
>far lefties
There is no far left, just the left
This. Even non antifa lefties who lead relatively normal lives still believe absolutely insane shit like child trannies.
The kiss is a symptom of an underlying moronic ideology, that underlying ideology and all its expressions are what causes movies to suck.
What ideology?
That quality is not the priority when creating a piece of media, but that media is instead first and foremost a vehicle for espousing the author's brand of social justice.
I agree, I'd just like more ammo for when I'm discussing with these tards.
i didn't take my son to see it explicitly because it promotes homosexuality
I boycotted it when I heard they didn't cast Tim Allen. It just cemented it for me that it had gay shit. They would recast Tom Hanks for a Woody movie.
>movie is about Buzz Lightyear
>no fun adventure in space
>whole movie is on one bland planet
>can't promote Buzz doing cool things since there is only ONE action scene where he isn't helped by someone else
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American conservatives have the weirdest priorities. They'll let blacks run riot across their country, do literally nothing about a million far more egregious instances of homosexual propaganda and pornography, always fall back into "the left are the real racists/homophobes/sexists/whatever" or "gee what if the tables were turned", and generally just conserve nothing except the state of Israel and the profits of megacorporations that want to push every single thing they seethe about...
but THIS is the hill the decide to die on? Some fricking cartoon that would have bombed even harder than it currently is if they didn't take the bait and give it free advertising?
Not seeing a movie is not dying on a hill
But why is this, of all things, the thing to get worked up over? Why this in particular and not everything else?
go woke go broke, normal people hate homosexuals so putting gay shit in your movie is instant box office poison
Yes, never compromise with the lgbt, don't let globohomosexual push you even an inch
Post yfw Pixar get Disney plused for life
When was the first homosexual in a kids cartoon? 2015 or something? So for almost 100 years literally no one did it. But if you think it still shouldn't be done now you are "edgy"? Get the frick out of here. You are the extremists.
>tfw Disney do a heckin profit loss
resist the chuds
I think people are catching up to pixar's newfound mediocrity and aren't even botherig watching newer movies
I fixed the movie
theres nothing wrong with being gay
no u didnt, you posted an image someone else made, because you have no originality
>children's shows have had lots of same sex kisses since 2015
>suddenly it's a problem when it happens in a movie in 2022
Explain.
Yeah bro no one complained about woke shit on the internet in 2015
It's been a problem since it's started this is just the most blatant and high profile example. Not enough people are aware of shit like legend of Korra or troony universe. It's because children's television is made more for liberal arts students since kids don't even watch cartoons on cable.
It simply looks like a boring movie to me
This was hyped hard even on Cinemaphile when the trailer dropped and now everyone is acting like they never cared. Might have been a big shill campaign.
>hyped hard
I dunno about that, Anon.
At this point I think we can write out the Disney+ expectation excuse, as the film had a 65% drop.
I think a significant amount of families are not seeing Lightyear because it doesn't look fun enough. And the perception is accurate. I liked it, but would've liked it even more if those 2 sidekick guys were significantly toned down. But that's the kind of content that appeals to kids and makes for good marketing. Pixar has made a movie targeting old men like me instead of family audiences, and this is completely ignoring the LGBT controversy.
As someone who's fine with LGBT representation, this was an example of high risk for low reward. The fact is, showing the kiss is unnecessary and cost Disney tons in worldwide revenue, AND some domestic revenue from people claiming the movie's "woke". Yes, this movie will make your kids gay apparently. I totally would've understood Pixar taking out the kiss, even if some people would use it as more proof that Disney is evil and doesn't really care about the LGBTs, virtue signalers, etc. buzzwords. They made a choice that people will respect more in the long run, but I'm sure cost them money here. But at the same time, when these movies end up missing the mark with audiences anyway, it sends a bad message for diversity, which is unfortunate. I continue to appreciate Pixar and other studios trying to move things forward, and overall, I think my first reason is the main reason the movie's failing. Not the LGBT stuff, since that's not part of marketing.
Imagine dreaming of being an animator. Getting a job at pixar.
Then get to animate these ugly character designs,sheboons lesbo kissing for months on end.
Thank frick I got out.
they're from cal arts they love it.
Not only lesbians but miscegenation with a kidnapped child.
No man in possession of his own faculties would give a child to a pair of queers.
its not 1950 any more pops.
That's right is current year
>Cinemaphile claims to despise homosexuality in film
>one of Cinemaphile‘s favorite directors is PTA, whose films almost always include a gay character or subplot
Hypocrites.
Who the frick even wants a toy story movie without the toy part
Chudsisterz... we still lost
>this film isn't a failure if we move the goal posts enough!
Captcha: P0SJW
Buzz Light-year?
More like POZZ TIGHT-REAR
Looking through this thread, /misc/tards are completely incapable of discussing or debating anything without resorting to memes, slogans, and the same handful of cultural references. It's really almost disturbing how indoctrinated they are; I couldn't tell a single one of these people apart from any of the others because their posting style is completely identical.
This... SO MUCH THIS! And I'm here for it.
>literally proving my point in your response
How do you get through life being this moronic
I'm agreeing with you sister. Very rude.
Seriously, how can you live a life without a SINGLE original fricking thought in your head and not blow your fricking brains out? Are you just too stupid to even realize you don't have any ideas of your own?
I've seen this post before. You'll need to be more original to graduate from midwit status.
>t. butthurt midwit gay masquerading as a cool headed centrist who is upset that parents outside of commiefornia don’t want their children watching gay indoctrination
>You WILL watch the Black persontroony globohomosexual and you will LIKE IT.
>Looking through this thread, /misc/tards are completely incapable of discussing or debating anything without resorting to memes, slogans, and the same handful of cultural references. It's really almost disturbing how indoctrinated they are; I couldn't tell a single one of these people apart from any of the others because their posting style is completely identical.
I literally don't know who these characters are and the only reason I can even tell that it's Lightyear is because the OP contained the words 'Disney', 'kiss' and 'bombed'
Where the frick is Buzz Lightyear? Who fricking cares about these stupid fricking randoms and their gay moron family? That's probably why it bombed
>Buzz Lightyear
Xe identifies as Pozz Tightrear now, bigot. Don't bring up xir dead name or else 😉
>Pozz Tightrear
alright, that's pretty good
Yuri is just soft porn in a fantasy world where men don't exist or act in the role of talking furniture
Oh no, two women kissed in a space toy movie that I wasn't going to watch anyway, this somehow affects my life in a negative way!
>This same anon simps for abortions
>Two 60+ year-old lesbos having a peck on the lips.
>Banned in 14 countries and Conservatives BTFO.
Lemme break out the WEBM
its gross. People don't like being preached to.
>People don't like being preached to
Billions of christ/mohammed/israelite cucks are gladly preached to all the time what are you on about?
>BUT WHATABOUT RELIGION HUUUHHHH?????
I bet you think you really got that guy
>People in the back are asian and black as well.
This is what people are having meltdowns over? Truly a fricking clown world.
This is how it starts moron, you give an inch they take a mile. Remember when they only wanted to be able to get married? They are going to push it further and further every movie. They already had a drag queen in Blues Clues
Not my problem.
Well yes we understand you’re a permanently childless loser with no stake in the future of society. What’s your point in stating the obvious?
That's fine anon, but it is a problem. Glad we can agree on that at least.
This is a fight you should have been fighting like 20 or 30 years ago. Its all just so redundant at this point. They've already won. They've long supplanted the white middle class suburban nuclear family as the mascots of global Americanism. Its in the fricking bag for them. And while all that went on, "conservatives" barely lifted a fricking finger.
>"What we do in the privacy of our own home..."
Fast forward 30 years and they're stuffing dollar bills into naked 7 year olds dancing in the street at parades.
Homosexuals need to be eradicated
I don't think it has a real target audience. It's a theme that would have been a boys movie 20 years ago but it was made by a room full of Karens looking to check woke points boxes.
Lesbian isn't gay
its just something they keep on hand as an excuse for why their crappy movies fail. Nobody is going to argue with it.
The trailer looked really boring.
No one wanted a Buzz Lightyear movie.
And the movie itself was just really boring. They tried to go for a Christopher Nolan Interstellar vibe instead of making a colorful sci-fi action adventure movie like Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers.
Buzz is a black transsexual now? Man, things keep changing.
it's ONE reason.
1. the lesbian kiss and the lesbian family itself. You'd be surprised at how many cultures notice that gays want to enjoy the children that spawn from the hetero biological process while rejecting that process.
2. Buzz Lightyear is largely incompetent, and NEEDS noble strong gay black woman to help him every step of the way.
3. Disney refusing to hire Tim Allen due to him being a conservative Christian.
4. attacking the movie-going audience for not supporting this shit
Again, why do you people bother to lie about #2.
The gay woman dies in the first 15 minutes and the crux of the movie is Buzz needs to be patient with the fact not everyone IS as competent as him.
I don't understand why people even pretend to get outraged about a movie they haven't watched.
The whole movie is about Buzz and the daughter of the lesbian woman, whose entire existence depends on either the lesbian woman getting impregnated by some dude in an open relationship with the two, or one of the dykes being a troony with a dick the whole time.
There's no way kids won't be brainwashed by this shit. They'll either have to accept that women can reproduce without sperm, or that it's ok to have a dude give his sperm to two dykes, or that it's ok for a kid to be raised by two females with no father figure, or that it's ok for fricking suicidal TRANNIES to exist and get married to a dyke and have children with said dyke.
Black person all the movie does is show gay people exist and quietly posit the existence of sperm donors. How addicted to porn must you be to immediately jump to troony dick brainwashing from whatever was in Lightyear?
>Toy Story 4 brings back Woody's girlfriend as an empowered woman and makes Woody metaphorically castrate himself by giving his voicebox to some b***h, he may as well be offering her his freshly cut balls
>Now this shit movie makes Buzz Lighyear look like a fricking idiot that needs to be saved by Black folks and empowered lesbian women the whole time, turning him into Pozz Tightrear, not before having to face his own toxic masculinity in the form of Future Boomer Pozz wearing a Zurg suit
Why is Pixar so hellbent on destroying the most iconic heroes of their revolutionary first film? This is a travesty.
>Woody metaphorically castrate himself by giving his voicebox to some b***h
Goddamn I didn't realize Toy Story 4 was THAT bad
Name a single Disney/Pixar film from the last 10 years that isn't pozzed.
Inside Out and Turning Red are slightly pozzed, but also very based and dickypilled.
Pozzed Tightrear lmao
An avalanche is just a bunch of tiny minuscule snowflakes piling up
If you need to bring police in maybe it was all a terrible idea in the first place
State mandated grooming fren
Yeah it's just about brightening a kids day, that's why clowns had police escorts too right?
They announced live action Pinocchio and the fairy is now a BALD FEMALE Black folk. Why bald? Just to make her uglier I guess.
They made Ellie ugly as frick in the TLOU remake, she now looks 30 instead of 14. Her niggy dyke friend looks 50 in some screenshots.
They announced a Matilda adaptation on Netflix and made Ms. Honey a black woman for no reason.
>made Ms. Honey a black woman for no reason.
But anon they are turning characters black for a reason. You may not see it but they are
He lied as naturally as he breathed while also giving nonce vibes.
Looks awful.
Isn't it so crazy how we all know what gay people are without having movies to tell us when we were kids?
Sid's e-girl sister from TS1 > Bonnie from TS3 > Jessie the plastic doll from TS2
It's stupid how they wasted Andy's sister. She spends two movies as a fricking baby and then we skip her entire toddler, e-girl and preteen years, only to have her tween self appear for 5 seconds before the story moves on from Andy's family and we never see them again.
A franchise about children's toys where the best e-girl scene by far is an early CGI pseudo-asian 9 year old girl making Buzz drink tea as she plays with her dolls.
All homosexual should be either stoned to death or thrown from a building and then stoned
Of course not. Movie is just shit and literally nobody wanted a backstory for the fricking toy.
A lot of people probably thought it was a grimdark remake based on the visuals and didn't want to take their kids to see it.
would have been fine if both were white but now its disgusting
I don’t watch homosexualshit, homosexual. Simple as.
It bombed because nobody wanted a Buzz movie. They especially didn't want a Buzz movie without Tim Allen. They especially especially didn't want a Buzz movie without Tim Allen where the secondary character was a Black person female.
A movie about Buzz voiced by Tim Allen about Buzz being a heroes hero would've at least made its money back.