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Excessive physical punishment during your childhood may provoke abnormal reactions in your adult life.
Need more goth bird.
Still would.
>the goth bird is a troony
>is written as the witty voice of reason
Goth bird needs a good spanking.
Black bird is the artist insert, vulture is strawman about why "beating kids (acting out in public) bad" because "it makes bad adults"
Crow raising hand triggers his childhood trauma from being beaten
I love how all the arguments centered around this act like there's no possible middle ground between
>Never touch the child, coddle the child, physical punishment is abhorrent and will scar the child for life, every child who was ever hit becomes a racist rapist abusive psychopath
and
>I beat the shit out of my kid every morning when he wakes up to teach him life's not fair
Like yeah probably don't beat the shit out your kid, and don't hit them for stupid shit, but sometimes a small amount of physical pain is the best way to make the point to a child that something they did was very not okay.
Its a mix of 99% doing the right thing gets spoiled by the 1% doing the wrong (there will always be some jackass parent that uses punishment as permission to abuse or kill their child) and the problem that it teaches children that sometimes authority has the right to hurt you if they perceive you did something wrong. Which often results in them hitting other children instead of resolving disputes with words.
Looks like we're having our weekly child beating debate thread again.
>I love how all the arguments centered around this act like there's no possible middle ground between
That is literally every internet debate ever. It's just fanatics on both sides strawmanning anyone rational or willing to see both perspectives as an enemy caricature. It has to be american brainrot, because it is the exact philosophy of american politics applied to a range of other topics.
well, that and the fact that anyone sensible to see any nuance just says their peace and leaves once they realize discussion is hopeless (or, more likely, don't say anything at all).
>I beat the shit out of my kid every morning when he wakes up to teach him life's not fair
Good ol' gumbuse threads. I wonder if they'll return when the new season hits.
The "magic middle" is a fallacy, hitting your kids fricks up their brains the same way neglecting them does. Children develop properly when they trust their parents and that relationship becomes their model for interpersonal behavior, hitting them breaks that trust and models relationships as things to be manipulated or avoided to prevent more pain.
>a whole generation of kids were beaten by their authority figures!
Yeah, the boomers, and they turned out to be violent angry stupid selfish bastards that quite literally sewed the extinction of the human race.
Wow I can't believe the boomers were the first generation to be spanked.
I guess it wasn't the commies after all.
>The boomers were spanked and they turned out great!
>they literally killed us all
>OH SO THEY WERE THE FIRST TO GET SPANKED HUH!?
Jesus christ I didn't know it was possible to backpedal this hard
The original post said nothing about boomers you smoothbrained moron, it just mentioned how LITERALLY EVERYONE was spanked by their parents prior to a few decades ago.
Maybe your parents should have beat you more, the traumatic brain damage might have prevented you from posting your stupid bullshit here.
>it just mentioned how LITERALLY EVERYONE was spanked by their parents prior to a few decades ago.
Which is both hilariously wrong and does nothing to counter the point that the Boomers were beaten and are the worst people around.
It's extremely funny that you kids get your ass whooped and become these rage-filled seethe machines crying about trannies and twitter all day and then defend your parents fricking up your brains
>Which is both hilariously wrong
White hands definitely typed this post.
More like non-american hands
Poles stopped hitting their kids in the 1700s
>More like non-american hands
Even more hilariously incorrect, non-white people outside of America hit their kids far more than Americans.
How can they be the worst people around when you exist?
Most people posting here probably never got a hand raised against them. Getting your ass beat isn't what makes you a /misc/cel or a troony. Both of those are largely just secondary effects of autism.
Anon if I were a betting man I'd say every single /misc/cel either got their ass beat raw or their father completely ignored them. Why do you think they latch on to strongmen as surrogate daddies?
>Why do I think they latch on to
Projection?
>The generation-brained moron is moronic and says moronic things
Many such cases, unfortunately
>every person who wasn't beaten as a kid turns into a moronic twitter troony who posts moronic shit like this online
Yeah, I'm thinking we should make beatings mandatory
>Yeah, the boomers
And as we all know, boomers were the very first humans to ever be spanked by their parents.
Yep.
>quite literally sewed the extinction of the human race
>they literally killed us all
Quit being a drama queen.
The ocean near me is hotter than a hot tub
The AMOC is halting because of freshwater flow from melting glaciers
Massive simultaneous crop failures are already occurring and this is just the beginning of a multi-year-long el nino
Humanity isn't surviving past 2100 and the Boomers are to blame.
this is due to practices that began in the Industrial Revolution. Boomers were the first generation to realize and start combating it. Funny how this post is just another example of this
>Boomers combatted climate change
That's a funny way to spell "actively hid"
I bet you're one of the dumb c**ts that fell for the IRA being "the biggest green bill ever!" when it really just is subsidies for batteries that pollute more than the cars they replace
Any response to you from here on out claiming that the Boomers have been anything but the most selfish generation in human history will be responded to with "Ok, Boomer."
Yes because Gen Z is the first generation ever who cared for climate change.
>the most selfish generation in human history
They were born in a specific era so this makes them PURE EVIL!!! homosexual
>"Ok, Boomer."
lmao frick off to reddit
Ok boomer
>"actively hid"
Climate change isn't real, moron. The Earth hasn't been heating up for over a decade now, and has only heated up by 0,5 degrees since 1850.
Whoops, that's global warming, and they stopped calling it that and switched to the more nebulous "climate change" to more easily dupe gullible zoomers like you. Not like you'd remember zoomzoom.
This
>Yeah, the boomers and they turned out to be violent angry stupid selfish bastards
The boomers led the civil rights, lgbt rights, and trans rights movements. They voted for medicare and minimum wage laws. It's funny gays like you call them violent selfish buttholes when they were literally the most progressive generation ever.
Boomers were literally still being born when the civil rights act passed
You're moronic
>Boomers were born in 1945
>Civil rights act was passed in 1964
>Majority of Boomers were voting age by its passing
The first Gen Xers were being born by the act's passing
>Boomers were born in 1945
Explicitly wrong.
Boomers were born between '46 and '64
You are a moron
>The boomers led the civil rights, lgbt rights, and trans rights movements. They voted for medicare and minimum wage law
So they fricked up society for their descendants, your point? I
The reality is that if your kid is enough of a hellraiser you feel the need to beat the hell out of him because he stole your beer and was shoplifting and selling drugs, you've probably already failed as a parent and he will live a shit life either way.
Contrary to popular belief kids are not robots reliant on outside input and can indeed decide to be shitheads entirely on their own with little to no warning.
>The "magic middle" is a fallacy, hitting your kids fricks up their brains the same way neglecting them does.
The fact that you act like this is somehow irrefutable fact and not unverifiable hearsay is very telling.
Child psychology as it stands is one step removed from 12th-century medicine men and dietary research.
>The science is wrong because...
>Because it heckin' is ok!
>I'm not defective!
Sad.
T. never learned jack shit about psychology.
>he believes in SKYE-ology
What are you even saying?
what are you even reading?
>The fact that you act like this is somehow irrefutable fact and not unverifiable hearsay is very telling.
I didn't say that though dude.
>Child psychology as it stands is one step removed from 12th-century medicine men and dietary research.
That's all psychology. Never the less, it should be immediately obvious that unless you traumatize your child into complete insanity, the child will always realize that it is being punished not because it did something wrong, but because you decided to punish it. Punishment of any kind won't teach your child shit except how to avoid it. Punishment is good for temporarily controlling your child's behaviour while it hopefully grows into a better person from things that actually make a difference, like social pressure and other people's examples.
You don't need science to know these things, you have a brain uniquely capable of empathy. Unfortunately, you also have a brain uniquely capable of self-delusion, and if you don't understand yourself, you can't understand others.
>Never the less, it should be immediately obvious that unless you traumatize your child into complete insanity, the child will always realize that it is being punished not because it did something wrong, but because you decided to punish it
What sort of backwards logic is this?
>What sort of backwards logic is this?
A basic understanding of physical reality.
>Provides no solution to the problem
>Just b***hes
Average zoomer
That's why you don't JUST spank your kid. You talk to them too. If they dont understand why and how their actions illicit punishment then you missed the point of the punishment. I can't recall a time I got spanked and didn't have a talk afterwards.
>Got spanked as kid
>Now have six figure job, home owner, and on good terms with family and parents
Yea spanking sure is the devil.
>thinks this is any kind of actual argument
Not making a good case for spankings leading to healthy brains
You're a Cinemaphile user, stop larping as a normalgay
>he thinks Cinemaphile isn't normalgay central
For real, people acting like Cinemaphile hasn't been mainstream as frick since like 2015 at the latest are legitimately moronic
The day I picked up a girlfriend from /LULZ/ was the day that cemented the fact that the sorts of people that want to pretend Cinemaphile has always been some antisocial losers club were fricking moronic.
Even at its most niche, Cinemaphile was always mostly just normalgays larping as morons, racists, and shut-ins for fun and a handful of genuine internet autists who were really amusing to interact with.
So how are they larping when cyberspace isn't live action?
bcuz ur gay
maybe not to you chud, but all my waifus live there
Having more than waifu will ruin your laifu.
Tru dat
>Cinemaphile was always mostly just normalgays larping as morons, racists, and shut-ins
Yeah, there are many "normalgays" who are genuinely racist, moronic, or shut-ins
yeah, they're called racial minorities and can be called what polite society refers to as "section 8"
>white people on Cinemaphile are never racist, moronic, or shut-ins unless they're severely autistic and all examples to the contrary are actually minorites or esl
Normalgays have nothing in common with Cinemaphileners, if you identify as a normalgay you're the problem here Black person.
>NO, ME AND MY EX-GF HAD LOTS OF SEX!
Failed normalgay then.
>Cinemaphileners
Redditor thinking he can blend in spotted,
you have to go back
I always see people post about their dating on Cinemaphile stories like they post abotu their 500k a year wendy's manager job or how they live on a big Montana ranch with their virgin 18yo wife and 20 children.
When you browse boards that aren't primarily populated by manchildren or dedicated to entertainment mediums with zero barriers to entry like Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile you'll figure out pretty quick that the average poster isn't some neckbeard living with their mother, just... average dudes. Take a look at Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile for example.
Honey you missed the boat on pretending Cinemaphile was some super secret clubhouse by about 15 years.
If you legitimately can't handle "normalhomosexualry" just crawl back to /LULZ/ and cry over there.
nobody thinks Cinemaphile is some super secret club but if i had a regular job, social life, and romantic life i certainly wouldn't waste my time here. absolutely nothing of value can be found here beyond a random glance at the catalogs if you have decent people to interact with in your daily life.
>if i had a regular job, social life, and romantic life i certainly wouldn't waste my time here
You think this way because you don't have those things, so you can't comprehend why anyone who does would possibly be able to find entertainment here. You're not able to understand that for them those things are just completely normal and not something that they obsess over constantly, and taking a break to shitpost on Cinemaphile for a bit can be an amusing distraction from their normal routine.
>regular job, social life, and romantic life
lmao I have all those things, I'm literally cruising Cinemaphile right now because I don't have much to do at work right now (remote tech stuff) and I was bored.
Again, you're subscribing to the idea that Cinemaphile is some secret clubhouse for losers. Its never been the case outside of teenagers and losers like you projecting your insecurities.
Frick's sake I've made longstanding IRL friendships stemming from shitposting on fricking /b/. Again
if you are so triggered by the fact that not everyone is some generic loser neckbeard, you're welcome to frick off at any time.
did you really fall for the meme that Cinemaphile is just for incel neckbeards and edgy hackers? This isnt a secret club anon, its a major social media site
/LULZ/ is too normalhomosexual, he'd have to go to Wizardchan, or some Eightchan derivative webring to even hope of achieving a true secret club.
>nobody thinks Cinemaphile is some super secret club
there are anons that clearly do
>but if i had a regular job, social life, and romantic life i certainly wouldn't waste my time here.
but that's you and the world isn't you, quit creating a narrative for yourself.
if a kid has the genetic potential to be mentally ill abuse is going to frick them up forever.
A mild spanking when the child has done something they know they should not have done is not abuse. Stop being moronic.
Honestly, most Asians get spanked, and they're far more successful than whites who just get coddled.
There are good reasons for society to give up physical punishment for children, but the idea that regular parenting messes up children is a complete myth. I don't think zoomers grasp that ~literally everybody~ was spanked and hit as a child for acting out until just a couple decades ago.
Rich or poor, black or white, if you were a child and got in trouble you'd get smacked by your parents, caretakers or teacher.
>I don't think zoomers grasp that ~literally everybody~ was spanked and hit as a child for acting out until just a couple decades ago.
A lot of them do understand that, but they legitimately believe that every person is mentally damaged and traumatized in ways they don't understand because of it. Tiktok and twitter have co-opted the word trauma to mean "anything negative that ever happened to you at any point in your life, no matter how trivial"
>the only generation that wasn't even smacked lightly once by their parents are the most fricked up ever
really makes you think
Furry fandom goes on
This. Shit opinions but he sometimes draws animal people fricking.
>look it up
>it's all gay shit
>literally a picture of a wagie rimming the personification of the democrat party
Yes this person seems sane
>Political side that I disagree with are either incredibly stupid and/or evil.
>Political side that I mostly agree with are "too soft and weak" or badguys lite
Every political cartoon that attacks "both sides".
The girl looks like she sells fursuits
>girl
I can't take this comic seriously when it's made by a furgay who has the gall to talk about someone else being fricked developmentally as if 99.99% of furgays aren't even more fricked in that regard.
Furgays, or terminally online people in general, usually suffer from the opposite and were actually mostly spoiled as kids which is why they're obsessed with dopamine rushes and avoidant escapism. My family is nowhere near rich but I still got given all the candy I wanted when I had tantrums, allowed to play video games as long as I wanted without doing any chores, unlimited unsupervised internet access. That's why we're allowed to NEET it up and our moms serve us our tendies into our 40s while we beat off to fox girl booba and pretend we're looking for jobs.
Did you ever make any effort to improve?
>projection
Avoidant-dismissive behaviors like this come from parental neglect during infancy/toddler years, not a lack of beatings
Neglect is not mutually exclusive from lack of beatings. If anything, neglect is a sign of lack of beatings.
So many people don't understand the difference between beating the shit out of your kid and disciplining them. A smack to the back of the head or spanking a child is not "beating" them.
Except yeah
Yeah it is
>t. undisciplined man-child
Every single piece of research ever done on the topic says that corporal punishment of any kind, and spanking is included and easily the most heavily researched, does not improve behavior. There are literal mountains of evidence on this.
>source: my dad works at nintendo
Social science research is always conducted by ivory tower types who have no clue how the real world works.
>yes, as you can see from my study using extremely selective criteria that I have specifically tailored to allow me to draw any conclusion I could possibly desire and a sample set where controlling for outside factors is literally impossible, doing [THING I DON'T LIKE] is literally worse than Hitler
psychological studies are a fricking joke, especially where children are involved
Damn the crow is good looking
>having a debate about parenting on a board full of adult virgins
for what purpose.
>posting in a thread you don't like when you could just have a nice day instead
for what purpose.
do you have kids?
Why would I choose to create another human when there's a chance it could end up like you?
so then why does this subject involve you if you don't have kids and won't have them. why does this debate belong on any board on this hellhole? people with kids will parent their kids however they like. pointless discussion.
Reddit-tier comeback
Beatings or no beatings, if your child is confident enough that there will not be consequences for acting like a shit flinging moron in a public place and causing a scene, you have failed as a parent.
why are you interacting with kids?
That's what I want to know, maybe beat the shit out of them so they learn not to talk to strangers
Why not? Do you think that any interaction between a grown adult and a child is pedophilic?
no i think its weird unless its a family member, or friend's kid, or part of your job though.
Then train your kid not to run up to people in public and harass them, moron
literally never happened to me before but i don't live in a big city. i think stranger danger is still taught by most parents unless you're just entirely absent from your kid's life. are you a woman or something? kids are generally afraid of strange adult men.
The fact that you're a shut-in neet moron doesn't somehow erase the fact that children are by and large morons who have no regard for their own safety or other people in general. Children doing dumb shit that inconveniences strangers in public is not some new or rare occurrence, it happens literally all the time, and pretending otherwise is moronic.
maybe in big cities but i go out often enough and don't see kids harassing strangers in public around here. they just stick with their family. shit i even visit a big city to see a family member often and never even see it there. maybe my face is just effective at scaring away kids.
>maybe in big cities but i go out often enough and don't see kids harassing strangers in public around here
Fun fact, people living in rural areas beat their kids
i wouldn't call my city rural its like 70k which is average for a leaf city. i can see kids being annoying if you work retail, but really its more often the parents who take the abuse from bratty kids i see.
i just look like a boring nerd.
>i wouldn't call my city rural its like 70k
Literally the middle of buttfrick nowhere
>average for a leaf city
The fact you're a maple-American explains so much about how fricking stupid you are
70k is an average city in NA bro. not everyone has the means to live in mega cities.
The average city in NA is in the middle of buttfrick nowhere you moronic canuckistanian
>not everyone has the means to live in mega cities.
Not my fault your moronic country has made the cost of living in all 3 of your population areas insane. I live in a city of 250K, it is not by any means a "mega city" and large swaths of it are literal farmland.
So anon, most parents (even the really bad ones) tend to keep a closer eye on their kids when someone who looks like an obvious pedophile walks by
Your experience living in buttfrick idaho and never going outside during the day is not really relevant here
I've had children I've never seen before ring my doorbell, ask if I want to see them dance, and then when I said no started flossing and ran away. That child was not beaten enough.
You should have shot them through the door
America style
Why would anyone care about the opinions of raising children from someone who admits they're too selfish and self centered to raise a child?
>If you don't have children then you're selfish/self-centered
You wanna try again with an argument that isn't pants-on-head moronic?
Because I'll beat your child and then you if you don't straighten the frick up and leave me be you homo
>it's so selfish not to create a shitting screaming brat and then force it to be everyone else's problem
>too selfish and self centered to raise a child
People having kids who don't want them because they're "supposed to" are the ones beating the shit out of their kids and causing morons like you to think a simple spanking is the work of Hitler.
Children being spoiled brats who throw public tantrums and don't listen to their parents are a direct result of not being spanked
The comic itself shows this, instead of the mom smacking her child to assert control she tries to beg him, showing the child is in charge and knows it can get whatever it wants by screaming
I just feel bad for people whose kids have public tantrums. You either beat them in front of everyone and look cruel, or let them cry it out and look like an enabling dick. I don't judge the parents anymore, they're probably embarrassed as frick and just as frustrated by it as you. Kids are tough man.
>You either beat them in front of everyone and look cruel
Trust me Everyone watching wants that child beaten, no one will think you're being cruel
However They will think you're a massive dickhead for making everyone else's day worse by letting your crotch goblin screech their lungs out in a crowded supermarket
>I don't judge the parents anymore, they're probably embarrassed as frick and just as frustrated by it as you.
The situation is the parents fault for being a shit parent, i have no sympathy for them
>crotch goblin
I know go back is a meme phrase at this point but seriously, this is legitimately reddit speak
People have been using that term since before reddit existed you dumb homosexual
I thought "crotch goblin" was something roasties said to deny their maternal instincts
I’m pretty sure the person who said it is a roastie denying her maternal instinct.
Its a term that was popularised by r/childfree and similar subreddits
No it absolutely was fricking not you dumb as shit zoomer
Popularized, not coined by. "Incel" was coined by a woman in the 90s to describe herself, but it was popularized in the 2010s by dudes.
You are still incorrect, moron
>"Incel" was coined by a woman in the 90s to describe herself, but it was popularized in the 2010s by dudes
Hey that reminds me. Doesn't the term based come from rap music?
>The expression was originally invented by rapper Lil B, aka Based God, taken from the word "basehead," which he used to receive as an insult. Lil B took the word in the opposite direction around mid-2010, transforming it into a term for being yourself and not being swayed by outside influence, which was solidified in his interview with Complex
Holy kek
/misc/ wuz kangz
I mean to be fair that lil homie was based as frick
>>>i dont have an argument so "le reddit!""
frick off
or you can be a racial minority and no one do anything lest be accused of racist.
It's a joke about people who rationalize abusive parents as "doing the best they could, it's not their fault you're a loser working at walmart for seventeen an hour with a health savings plan at 46 while posting your breakroom on Cinemaphile threads".
I wonder how many people in this thread actually has any kids
I want to fug the kid
I want to fug (you).
Guys that bird is wearing a choker, GUYS THAT BIRD IS WEARING A CHOKER!
>the time pops broke my autistic brother's arm when he was 5
>the time madre chased my older brother around the house with a butcher knife to quote "just scare him a little bit"
>the time we all walked in on my older brother attempting to OD
>all those times when madre would get pissed off driving, hit ludicrous speed, and threaten to kill everybody in the car with her
>being dragged to juvenile hall to visit my older brother just so my mom could rant about how I'm going to end up in there too
>"What the frick are you going to therapy for? Just gonna blame all your problems on us huh?"
Sometimes I'm thankful that most of my memories between the ages of 5 and 16 are mostly black holes.
Your madre sounds like my friend's dad.
>Him and his bro are play hitting each other in the car.
>Dad gets increasingly agitated at this despite them not even being that loud.
>Dad misses a turn.
>Legit turns around while driving to slap the shit out of them, literally that scene from the Boondocks.
>Daughter in the front seat starts crying and grabs his arm and he nearly hits her too.
>MFW sitting there watching this happen right next to me.
Hispanic parents are fricking insane...
But I bet you didn’t throw tantrums in public 🙂
is she baked at work
she's an epic zoomer that was raised on weed culture through the media, so yeah, most likely.
She's literally hiding her weed pen from her boss in the first panel.
I used to play d&d with the artist.
His comics are alright, but he kind of sucks as a person. Iirc he's only 19 or so, so hopefully he gets his act together
i thought it was weaver or whatever his name is nowadays. seems to have a similar style.
Ive seen some of Weavers art and its almost never full colour. I dont think Ive ever seen him do political/social shit
i respect my parents for never spanking me, but i acted right because i knew kids whose parents did spank. also my older brother had a wooden spoon broken on his ass, so maybe my parents realized to tone it down a bit
No one is answering the question that I'm most curious about: What do you do when your kid is out of control like in the first panel of OP's comic? Everyone saying, "Spanking okay, spanking not okay! Don't break parent trust! You need a firm hand!", but what punishments won't mentally frick up a child who is ALREADY out of control?
If the child is out of control it's already mentally fricked up, but anyway the answer is to hit them, not very hard, and not anywhere that will injure them. Just a quick smack and a "cut that shit out right now".
you pull him by the ears or the side burns and say if he keeps crying you're going to send him to work in the coalmines.
than drive to an actual place of labor and pretend you're actually sending them to work there.
Pick him up and carry him out.
Remove all the really spoiled privileges (games, TV) leaving them with a ball and their toys.
ball and toys is still to privileged.
they have to be standing in the corner.
I'd put that as a punishment for stuff done at the house. Driving home to stand them in the corner misses the timing.
>Driving home to stand them in the corner misses the timing.
This, it's the exact same principle as training an animal, if you reprimand them after the fact they don't properly associate what they did that was bad, you have to address it when it happens.
that's why you constantly remind them that when they get home they're going to still be punished. it encourages long term thinking instead of hoping that consequences are only short term
No that's the opposite of what you want, they aren't going to associate that with what they did wrong, they're going to remember you constantly telling them that they're going to be punished and then being punished, and just associate it with you wanting to punish them.
>If you don't beat them right there they won't know what they did wrong!
They're not dogs, and even if they were positive punishment is proven to be total shit at conditioning.
No you moron, whether the punishment is a spanking or anything else, you have to do it when they actually do the thing they're not supposed to do.
>They're not dogs
It's the same fricking principle. A small child does not have the mental capacity to understand that they are being punished for something that happened an hour ago.
It's not about being lazy you dipshits, it's about the fact that the world does not revolve around the child or you for that matter. You leave a cart full of groceries in in the middle of a store aisle and you're inconveniencing every other person there, the store clerk who will assume you left and start restocking the shit, etc.
Doing that is literal ghetto Black person behavior you entitled c**ts.
>The principle is the same!
It's not, and it doesn't fricking work with dogs either way.
>Taking the child out of the store is MORE of an inconvenience to the other people than having them scream in aisle 3
You're a complete fricking moron and your parents failed you miserably.
the child out of the store is MORE of an inconvenience to the other people than having them scream in aisle 3
>Whoa, so having a kid throwing a tantrum in the middle of a store is LESS of a nuisance
No you dumb illiterate homosexuals, you stop the tantrum by not being a limpwristed homosexual that your child is willing to ignore when you reprimand them, and go about your business.
Seems like you are the limp wristed homosexual that can't even leave some groceries back and lift your own kid on your own arms a few feet away, outside the store.
>Beat your kid in the middle of the store, that'll definitely stop the crying and won't bother anyone as much as a shopping cart!
>Taking a crying child out of the store so people can shop in peace is "ghetto Black person behavior"
It's basic courtesy and good parenting.
T. white dude from Maryland
If you can't get them under control then yes getting them out of there is common courtesy, but becoming an inconvenience to every other person there because you couldn't take 2 seconds to teach your child they can't do that shit because you wanted to go have a fricking dialogue with them outside the store instead is moronic. The leaving a cart full of groceries to be in other peoples' way and not giving a frick about others' time is the ghetto Black person shit.
Obviously if there's two parents there, one of them should handle the child while the other continues shopping, but assuming you're on your own, you handle that shit.
>If you can't get them under control then yes getting them out of there is common courtesy, but becoming an inconvenience to every other person there because you couldn't take 2 seconds to teach your child they can't do that shit because you wanted to go have a fricking dialogue with them outside the store instead is moronic. The leaving a cart full of groceries to be in other peoples' way and not giving a frick about others' time is the ghetto Black person shit.
Man, what grocery store to you go where a single cart will just stop everybody else from being able to go on with their fricking day?
Why are you willing to die on this hill that nobody else even registers as an issue to begin with?
hitting children will always be Black person tier
>go have a fricking dialogue
Or, and follow me here, just let the kid tire out outside. What else can they do? Laugh as he does it too so he gets that what they are doing is pointless and when they are done, put the kid in the car and leave without giving them anything and telling that if that happens again, he won't get anything else ever again and take away something he like for a few days.
There, now you can impose your "strict" discipline as a devil-may-care parent that too cool to just talk and you still don't have to hit him in any way.
>T-the child shouldn't have thrown a tantrum in the first place!
>Taking your child outside is common courtesy but also GHETTO Black person SHIT
Anon
This is getting fricking embarrassing
Just admit you want to hit kids so we think you're a c**t and not just moronic and we can all move on with our day
>You leave a cart full of groceries in in the middle of a store aisle and you're inconveniencing every other person there, the store clerk who will assume you left and start restocking the shit, etc.
Whoa, so having a kid throwing a tantrum in the middle of a store is LESS of a nuisance than just someone that already works there just move a single cart and do a do over around the store, hell maybe even put it aside and do it at the end of the work day.
Do you actually go outside? Do you know what's an actual inconvenience? Shut the frick up, you alienated crazy schizo.
You could just find a clerk and say, hey can you watch my basket for 5 minutes while I take junior outside? They will see the obviously screeching child and say "yes. Please get him out of our store."
Hell thats way less dirsuptive than letting him cry himself out OR beating his ass in public. Both are pretty inconvenient compared to just removing the child and continuing your shopping in 5 minutes.
>You could just find a clerk and say
>implying grocery stores have more than 2 workers at any given time
Nice try homosexual, by the time you found someone who's already busy doing every task in the store your kid will have already passed out from screaming so much.
If there's nobody around then there's nobody to take your basket and restock it. And if they do take it who gives a shit. Get everything again. Gives your kid more time to think about what he did. Its just groceries.
>They're not dogs
No, but they're still absent-minded idiots.
Cool story bro
They're still not dogs. They can understand delayed reward and punishment.
Even if they couldn't, positive punishments (like beatings) are objectively shit for training dogs
if you must spank or hit your child, then just do it on his palm or thighs with your hand or a ruler. Or knock him on the back of his head. Never slap someone or hit them on the butt thats incredibly demeaning
>Never slap someone or hit them on the butt thats incredibly demeaning
But that's the point.
>Not butt that's the point
One job
>Or knock him on the back of his head
>Never slap someone
no you shouldn't slap your child or hit them in the face or any part of their head, that's where their brain is
>or hit them on the butt thats incredibly demeaning
it's supposed to be demeaning, you're teaching them that when they do something they're not supposed to there are consequences. Children want to feel grown up and getting spanked on their ass makes them feel like children, you're teaching them that what they did is immature.
Id drag their dumbass out into the parking lot and leave them out in the car. No keys either. Sit in that hot ass car and cry yourself out then, twerk.
Twerp* damnit.
homie it's a child
You pick them up and take them outside because they're a child and you can control them without strikes
You validate their feelings ("I know you want candy and I know you're disappointed") and then clearly establish a rule they can understand ("You don't get candy by acting out. If you behave then you'll get candy.")
Shit like this happens at first not because a kid is spoiled or rotten, it happens because small children are still developing the capacity to and learning how to control their emotions. Because they're CHILDREN.
>You pick them up and take them outside because they're a child and you can control them without strikes
Ah yes, let me just abandon a cart full of groceries and take my child outside so I can have a rational conversation with them while they're shitting their pants and screaming that they want a popsicle
Unironically yes you lazy c**t
Yes? Did you buy those groceries yet? You can always come back later or, you know, order through an app nowadays if you need that groceries THAT much.
And you don't need to talk at all. Just find a place away from most people, like a parking lot and let the kick cry until they run out of breath. It's a patience game and you only have to wait.
>Wait, you want me to fricking PARENT my child!?
>Ah yes, let me just abandon a cart full of groceries and take [care of] my child
Yes
In every situation. If he's having a tantrum, if he's sick, if he's injured, if he's missing. In every situation your child has priority over a rolling box of stuff.
What type of sociopath prioritizes stuff over their children?
The kind that hits them, apparently
>You validate their feelings
No, don't do this, this is how you raise a narcissist who thinks they're always in the right.
Idiot. Validating their feelings means letting them know you understand, not telling them they're RIGHT. It's an essential part of helping them develop the ability to recognize and control their emotions.
>They aren't logical!
They understand rules if they're old enough to talk.
>They won't listen while screaming!
Step one was removing them from the store and letting them calm down.
Man, you people are REALLY eager to beat children.
Great method if you want to teach your child that there are zero consequences for bad behavior. Children aren't logical thinking beings and they won't listen to any reasoning if they're in meltdown mode
The consequence is that they don't get what they want and next time they want anything else, you deny them it until they ask properly or say sorry for the previous time they threw a tantrum.
Teaching is a continous process. It creates a precedent that kids DO understand sooner or later (Tantrum = don't get what they want and they will have to do more to get something to get something else next time they do).
Even dogs and cats understand reward for specific behaviour and that's what this is.
They wouldn't have got what they wanted anyway. They just learned that they can throw a tantrum without consequence.
>say sorry for the previous time they threw a tantrum.
Kids are little sociopaths. They don't care about how they affect others, they probably wouldn't even remember the incident. Expecting a genuine apology from a child is just stupid.
>Kids are little sociopaths. They don't care about how they affect others, they probably wouldn't even remember the incident. Expecting a genuine apology from a child is just stupid.
Then they just don't get the next thing they want. If they are real sociapaths, they'd learn to lie to get what they want anyways. So they are either pushing boundaries to see who has control in this child/parent relationship or the kid is too dumb to lie to get what he wants. Either way, hitting them won't make a difference in this scenario.
Implying the child has enough introspective capability to connect the dots and realize that he's not getting what he wants because of something he did a week ago. He'll just think mommy is being a big fat meanie and throw a tantrum all over again. Why would you expect anything different?
Jesus christ you're moronic anon
My sister's 3 year old literally has a calendar with all the good boy things he has to do on it. He understands full well when he doesn't get something because the board isn't full.
It's time to shut the frick up because you have no idea what you're talking about
Is this kids father still in the picture or nah?
Sounds like a lot of shit you made up on the spot
Escalation of punishment is something that exists in society everywhere, anon. It's basically the point of one third of our whole goverment system.
Teaching kids, and people, to just be worried about the punishment for crimes or things they do that are considered wrong is a uphill battle because it will only be as effective as the advantages they can get from the crime/bad behaviour in constrast to the punishment.
Teaching people and actually making them understand the consequences of the crimes and how they make life worse for everybody else is much more effective in the long run and how many first world countries actually manage to keep things mostly civil without jails filled to the brim.
Wait, so he's a sociopath and also too dumb to understand stuff? Then how beating them will make any difference? They'll still think mommy is a meanie and as they grow older and mommy can't hurt them as they used to, they can do worse stuff with less worries.
You are using the "nuclear option" for minor stuff and when the kid, when they get older, start to not worry about physical punishment anymore, they'll just abuse you instead or at least do whatever the frick they want without caring about your opinion or teaching one way or the other.
>They learned they won't get beaten for crying!
Good.
Negative punishment (no candy for you) works. The consequence is no candy, maybe no screen time.
Positive punishment (beatings) does not.
Your child SHOULD feel that you won't beat them for having an emotional episode while they're still learning to control their emotions.
>Don't teach them to think about and apologize for their actions! Teach them that you hit people when you don't like what they're doing!
And the cycle continues.
Have you considered that you might just hate kids
Pull down their pants and take a shit in them. Make them walk around the store in pooey pants and have the other customers point and shout 'Poopy boy!' at them. My mom did that with me and it worked out fine.
Need images of the crow gently femdomming the vulture.
You should develop a relationship with your child where you don't need to use physical pain as a motivator for behavior, if they're young they should just respect you (or your husband) enough that they'll stop doing with a genuine face to face. That being said grabbing them by the ear isn't abuse and one spank doesn't make a serial killer but you gotta associate that shit with actual lessons so that they draw clear understanding. When they're older you just gotta hope you taught them better when they were younger and give them advice when they ask for it.
And social science studies are 90% of the unreplicable bullshit clogging up research
So the thing that I feel like people often forget whenever the "you should raise your child such that you never have to physically discipline them" argument comes up is that young children are frequently completely irrational. They are immature underdeveloped morons, because their brains are still being formed. Most of the time, physical discipline should not be needed, you don't need to smack your kid because they called their sibling a doo doo head or something, but if the child is actively ignoring the parent and having a breakdown in a public place or something, you might need to quickly and abruptly correct them if you want them to understand that they can't do that shit. A toddler having a tantrum is not a rational being, you can't reason with it. And unless you're an overly violent moron who hits them for stupid shit, a child will eventually reach a level of maturity where they understand that the only reason they occasionally got spanked is because they were being an unreasonable piece of shit.
The joke is that Walmart employees are fricked in the head
I think I would have turned out better if my parents hit me, instead of letting me terrorize them and sowing the seeds of narcissism in my mind
i love how people who are against hitting your children as a form of discipline never ever offer an actual alternative.
I like how you're apparently illiterate
Do you use one of those text to speech things to browse the Internet?
>I like how you're apparently illiterate
ad hominem. also not relevant to the topic. try again
fallacy fallacy, sorry kid.
>people in this thread were actually hit by their parents
Why are you guys so proud to have shitty parents?
I wasn't, I was just neglected entirely. Wish I'd had a parent willing to hit me when I was being a piece of shit.
You are grading parenting quality on a low curve there, buddy.
Why does Cinemaphile dislike proper parenting so much?
It's not really Cinemaphile, just two groups in it:
-people who were actually abused and feel the need to justify it
-edgy c**ts
Trying to treat kids like adults is the crux of bad parenting
Treating them like dumb animals creates dumb adults too.
They are dumb animals. Pretending they aren't is fricking stupid.
Pretending that they stay as dumb animals forever is literally moronic.
Who said that? Eventually you learn that you shouldn't throw a tantrum in public because it's a nuisance to others. Kids can't understand that though, they only understand consequences.
Yeah, that have to be taught by their parents. Beating them won't make a difference if, as you said, they don't know they shouldn't throw a tantrum.
Here:
This is a more reasonable situation to hit your kids.
How come people here praise animals that are as intelligent as toddlers but then turn around and act like toddlers are barely sentient
Sheer misanthropy
This. Don't give kids any validation for behaving like a selfish little shit
Don't just say "Black person" when you don't have an argument. That word could literally mean anything. If you're gonna insult someone do it in a way that isn't so vague that it Shields you from having to explain what you mean by a Black person. Cuz I'd absolutely call beating your kid in the middle of a grocery store to be Black person behavior.
I say Black person when you're being a fricking Black person you Black person.
Physically disciplining a child is not necessarily bad but the people advocating for it don't have restraint and are just looking for an excuse to roundhouse kick a child
This. Hitting should be avoided, but in extreme situations, it's understandable. A tantrum isn't an extreme situation. Stealing from someone or breaking someone's arm in a dumb fight is more on the extreme side.
mmhm, my mom gutchecked me exactly once when I was literally bullying and insulting her, Even at the time I thought it was justified, But a redditor would've called CPS and said something like "you're an adult deal with it" without actually telling her how
>child so out of control they're "bullying" their mother
>mother gut checks them in response
>"this is fine, no CPS needed here, certainly not well before this happened"
It's hilarious how many abused people that grew up into complete c**ts keep coming into the thread to show off their damage
It's the OP's comic but in real time
I hate to break this to you but all kids throw huge temper tantrums at some point and you're a fricking moron if you think otherwise
Or, like most of the posts in this thread, they're just pointing out that "IF YOU EVER TOUCH A CHILD YOU ARE A FRICKING MONSTER" is a moronic stance and a simple spanking when warranted is completely different from breaking the kid's jaw because they wouldn't get you another beer.
You shouldnt WANT to spank a child but sometimes it's the only realistic option and is a lot more effective than trying to have a conversation with them like little adults
>muh magic middle!
You're just wrong homie
Beating is easier. That's literally the only advantage. It doesn't require any thought or parenting, just violence.
It also doesn't work and leads to kids that use violence to get what they want. Monkey see monkey do.
>muh strawman!
The fact that every time someone mentions spanking you revise it in your brain to beating them says a lot about your mental state.
>spanking isn't the same as beating!
It is.
>Kids throw temper tantrums!
They sure do
body slamming them is not the solution
>It is.
You've never been in a fight before, I'd bet money on that.
>body slamming them is not the solution
That's the only reason they don't do it more, why do you think zoomers are so narcissistic and entitled?
Same reason why yuppies were narcissictic and entitled: Nothing to strive for besides pure monetary gain and, now, clout.
guy with mom here, Yeah it was just that and I wanted attention/was testing her. She's a huge pushover and was nearly in tears until she did something (I'm less psychotic and take care of her now, don't worry)
In hindsight if she *hadn't* hit me I would've kept doing it to her and others. It was basically THE golden situation where you are objectively meant to punt a kid.
>guy with mom here
Way to brag, butthole
You were never a child
A webm that fricked me up more than any rekt was some indian couple celebrating their toddler's birthday, the dad gets pissed off for some reason and starts beating the shit out of the mom, and the little kid starts hitting her too after watching him
If more children got roundhouse kicked, we'd have more martial artists and Americans wouldn't be so fricking fat.
Roundhouse kick your kids, pussies.
Why does everyone here seem to think that spanking a child when they misbehave and beating them senseless with a belt for no reason are the same thing
because they're all sheltered middle class kids.
Because ignoring what someone says and arguing against a point you made up in your head is easier than thinking critically.
>implying
corporal punishment doesn't work
pretending the only problem is doing it "for no reason" is moronic
>corporal punishment doesn't work
counterpoint: it does
Why don't they spank adults
I do, homosexual
Well, um, I've been really bratty and poorly behaved lately, Mr. Anon...
They should. Pretty sure a bare ass paddling would be a much bigger disincentive than. 300 dollar fine.
Bring back corporal punishment
>Speeding ticket
>DUI
>Officer just bends you over and spanks you for the alotted spanking time for that crime.
>No court date
>No fee
Id do it.
They do though, talk shit, get hit. If you piss off the wrong person you will get your ass kicked
That's not a spanking.
Yea I think they should. It's even a more fair system. Rich people can't ignore a roasted red ass like they can a fine.
It also allows people to get on with their lives afterwards.
Getting your ass paddled in public won’t affect your ability to pay rent this month.
Exactly. I'm surprised there is no movement to try to enact this. I've heard a lot of schools are bringing back the paddle, maybe it's the start of a bigger trend. I can only hope.
It would be better to have a court date and a punishment facility imo. Although giving people the option to submit to on-the-spot punishment would be good too.
>tfw I'll never see an officer blistering some speeding brat's ass on the side of the road
>it doesn't work because i said so ok even though people have been doing it for literally thousands of years, just trust the science bro dr. goldberg knows better than your parents
Probably irrelevant but this video makes me smile
Parasitic stinking crotch goblins
Even the chimps?
I think some anons here were on the lower side of the IQ bell curve when they were kids and assume everybody else was dumber than a dog when they were toddlers.
This one makes me sad for any children who have to deal with seething child-hating redditors irl
That's adorable, I hope that kid gets so many treats he contracts diabetes
>leaving a single cart shuts down the whole store!
>there's no workers at any store!
Anon is poor as shit and his parent beat the ever-loving shit out of him
That's why he's so stupid
My Dad stripped me naked and whipped me with a belt for going across the street so my little brother could play basketball in the church parking lot. I'm sexual ruined and the only thing I think about when jerking off is being spanked, almost always by dominant men.
Next time I get jumped by a homie at the corner store I'm gonna drop that homie's pants and turn his cheeks beet red, y'all taught me that's the most savage beating you can give a dude, Tyrone gonna think twice 'fo he act up again, homie gonna be boutta do a drive by and his ass start to sting, he gonna move along sheeit
GIWTWM
To be fair if a guy has both the ability to remove his assailants pants and the strength to force him over his knee to spank him, I wouldn't frick with that guy either.
Yea, he sounds really hot- I mean strong and like, scary. Yeah.
It is absolutely fricking hilarious that this comic is just playing out over and over and over ITT
Also hilarious is the number of people going
>I-I wasn't beaten! Spankings don't count!
>zoomer pussy has to gaslight people to somehow prove he's correct
ITT morons who don’t understand how the threat of violence works really well as a means of controlling someone when it’s not a bluff and 95% percent of the time the violence is not required.
Spank your kids and they’re not gonna call your bluff.
Not saying you should never spank your kids but you realize that constantly living under the threat of violence is way worse for your emotional state than the actual violence, right?
Ignorance is great until you mouth off to the wrong person and get a concussion.
The threat of violence is always there, that’s literally how the world works.
Never learning what the boundaries of violence are means this will eventually happen.
you don't need to be spanked to know that talking shit to a guy in a bar could get your ass beat. you shouldn't have that same caution with your parents
What, so you should be able to talk shit to them and not catch a beating?
Yes. You literally control their whole world, you should be able to teach them that actions have consequences without physically assaulting them.
I wish talking shit in a bar would get you a spanking. I'd be a total bastard.
>taking parenting advice from a board of childless, immature pedophiles
>tfw I was never spanked as a kid
>Took nearly giving a childhood friend a concussion to teach me responding to minor slights with violence was wrong
Man...I was someone had hit younger me so I could've known violence was bad before I ruined someone else's life...Maybe, I dunno, like my parents or something.
Zoomers don't get hit enough and it shows
I'm in the middle. On one hand I cant imagine spanking my own kids if I ever have em. On the other hand my mom spanked me and I don't think I have any issues. Hell the fact that I don't wanna spank anyone kinda flies in the face that spanking made me more violent. But also I only got spanked for big stuff like getting in trouble or getting an F on my report card or something. It hurt, I cried and then I moved on. So maybe I get a bit annoyed when people insinuate my mom was a bad mother cuz I love my mother.
>Getting spanked for grades
Great parents violently reinforcing the israelite training lol
I noticed that the newer generation keeps trying to convince people they were abused even if they have no issue with said 'abuse'
It's the same mentality they use to try to convince minorities they should be offended by things they don't give a shit about
Or telling everyone they were groomed. Naw I just tended to talk to adults cuz kids my age sucked.
Why is Cinemaphile so obsessed with the topic of whether you should beat your child or not
It's an important commentary of contemporary society. It's either you continue the monkey brained traditions or you trust the homosexual experts and like a cuck. It's vibes based politics at its finest.
I just want an excuse to talk about implementing adult corporal punishment into the legal system, and generally talk about it.
We get this thread all the time for some reason. At least the OPs are more varied now and aren't just Goofy Movie Pete spam.