>watching the harry potter films again and realizing that they dont treat harry killing voldemort as some serious moral dilemma like they do with a...

>watching the harry potter films again and realizing that they dont treat harry killing voldemort as some serious moral dilemma like they do with aang killing the firelord in ATLA
Why was aang such a pussy in the end?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They treat Voldemort as magic hitler so it's okay if he dies cause he was and always will be a terrible person with no chance of redemption.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The firelord was never redeemed either and was an all around cruel person without a shred if goodness in him

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They treat Ozai like fire Hirohito, he has to live in shame and humiliation for the rest of his life. Without being a figurehead that is.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was voldemort even shown as having any good qualities outside of his power?

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because his cultured forbid it. Killing the Fire Lord would mean betraying it and thus, obliterating thr last vestiges of the Air Nomad way of life. Plus outright killing a head of state can be pretty bad.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This anon gets it. Aang had to win via pacifism because otherwise Ozai wins the ideological war.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, but the way they went about it was kinda of a cop out.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This anon gets it. Aang had to win via pacifism because otherwise Ozai wins the ideological war.

          aang should've just crushed ozai's hands and feet

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That would still be pretty violet and it wouldn't stop him from bending. Ozai was a very talented and skilled bender so he probably could still be a threat even in that state.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Imagine a nugget Ozai propelling himself with fire and whizzing around. That would be terrifying.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Aang had to win via pacifism

        But he didn't, last I checked he beat the shit out of Ozai and then crippled him.

        "I won't kill you, I'll just beat the hell out of you for 10 minutes, then snap your neck and turn you into a quadriplegic for the rest of your life."

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"I won't kill you, I'll just beat the hell out of you for 10 minutes, then snap your neck and turn you into a quadriplegic for the rest of your life."
          Holy shit it just occurred to me that aang is just a really gay version of batman

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Pictured: Pacifism apparently

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >crippled
          In ATLA nonbenders can do superhuman shit. Just look at Ty Lee. It’s more like he lost a privilege he abused.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Aang had to win via pacifism because otherwise Ozai wins the ideological war.
        Imagine being so dull, stiff and inflexible that fricking Ozai outmaneuveres you in ideology. This is the reason why I hate this all Jesus - wannabees, they are so bland and dumb, that that only intresting thing is how many deus ex machina do they need to win.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its even dumber when everyone of his past lives who are vastly more experienced then he is explicitly tell him that murder is the only solution. Gyatso killing firebenders in self defence is no different to Aang killing Ozai to defend the people of the Earth Kingdom from being turned into steaks. And for those anons saying that he had to disprove "might makes right", the simple act of fighting and beating Ozai has already proven that might makes right. If you want to have a story where "might makes right" is disproven then the finale will have to be completely rewritten because it just isnt designed to convey that moral lesson.

          I think the reason all these Jesus knockoffs fall flat is because (Im not christian so correct me if Im wrong) the whole point of Jesus's story in Christianity is that he purposefully lost and that his death was a sacrifice, and his story is set against an oppressive government, not a wartime enemy. So a messiah-type more suited to a war story would be based off of Moses, Muhammad or Charlemagne since those guys actually fought in wars. I've heard Aslan from Narnia is a good example of a Jesus knockoff but Ive never watched that movie

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I've heard Aslan from Narnia is a good example of a Jesus knockoff but Ive never watched that movie
            That's because it's based off of a book series written by a Christian author portraying Christianity as if it happened in a alternate fantasy world. Aslan isn't supposed to be a Jesus-knockoff, he's supposed to be the literal real Jesus, he just shows up in the form of a talking lion in that particular world.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The World Between Worlds
              Comfy

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, you pretty good formulated ny thougths on it. And yes, Aslan and Narnia is really good classic stiroies, one of my favorite.

            >The World Between Worlds
            Comfy

            Honestly I always thougpht it was pretty uncanny. Endless sunny meadow without any time and motion, filled with same ponds - it is something straight up from backrooms shittery.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We all got genocided but it's ok because we won the "ideological war"

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      His culture does not forbid killing evil or in defense of innocents otherwise Monk Gyatso would not be surrounded by dozens of bodies with his own body appearing relatively unburnt.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gyatso literally killed an entire room full of firebenders

        This is true. The Air Nomads are or were a peaceful people and it seems like their exact stances on pacificism varied, from no harm whatsoever, to no killing, to outright killing and everything in between. What matters is that they generally believed in peace and don't resort to violence unless they have to.

        This anon gets it. Aang had to win via pacifism because otherwise Ozai wins the ideological war.

        As this anon stated, killing Ozai, especially as both thr Avatar, who is more or less the spiritual leader of the world, and as the last air bender would act as an admission to the Fire Nation's ideals at the time, namely that might makes right and brutality is the answer and it would set a bad precedent. Aang showing restraint shows to the Fire Nation and to the world that it doesn't have to be that way. It also probably made it easier for Zuko to transition into power as well. It's also important to remember that Gyatso and all the other air benders who fought were defending themselves. Aang went out of his way to fight Ozai.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, Aang was defending the whole of the country since Ozai was using his boost in power to raze the fricking place.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is true, but he still seeks trouble by doing so, no matter how altruistic it was. He goes in expecting to do violence and perhaps even kill the name. The Air Benders at the temple didn't really have a choice.

            That might be a more powerful gesture if he hadn't already killed tons of fire nation soldiers.

            I kinda assume they all were fine. It's kinda like how nobody was stabbed in the show despite all the swords. Otherwise it wouldn't really make sense for Aang to be against it. If you're also thinking of the Moon Spirit, I disagree because Aang wasn't in control so I don't think it counts.

            >namely that might makes right
            That's still true, Aang only won because he was stronger then Ozai.

            He still only disables him and doesn't try to punish thr Fire Nation the same the country treated the other nations. This is coming from the same guy who's the last remanent of his culture which was entirely caused by the Fire Nation.

            He's stupid and irresponsible.

            One of his past lives from the same culture explicitly told him that his responsibility to protect the world was more important than his culture.

            That's true but I don't think it negates my points.

            >would act as an admission to the Fire Nation's ideals at the time, namely that might makes right and brutality is the answer and it would set a bad precedent.

            What the frick do you think happened in the finale? Aang beat the shit out of Ozai and mutilated his soul.

            If anything it's an even more brutal reinforcement of hierarchy through violence than killing him would have been.

            As I previously stated in this post, he still acted with restraint and didn't penalize the Fire Nation. Taking away his firebending is kinda sad but it was to make sure he didn't hurt others. I haven't really read The Search and I don't know if I consider it canon so I understand if we may not entirely agree. I haven't really consumed any of the expanded material and I just watched the shows (I have yet to see the fourth season of Korra in its entirety so excuse me if I was ignorant of something.).

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              It just seems myopic of Aang to have never consider the possibility that he would have to kill Ozai. This is a world war that's been ranging for Generations but to Aang all that doesn't matter because he needs to stay pure.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >namely that might makes right
          That's still true, Aang only won because he was stronger then Ozai.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >would act as an admission to the Fire Nation's ideals at the time, namely that might makes right and brutality is the answer and it would set a bad precedent.

          What the frick do you think happened in the finale? Aang beat the shit out of Ozai and mutilated his soul.

          If anything it's an even more brutal reinforcement of hierarchy through violence than killing him would have been.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This, a simple death is way more merciful than crippled existence full of eternal suffering.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Combine that with The Search leaving him suicidally depressed but having no means to kill himself (unless biting off his tongue could actually do the job), Aang has broken the man completely.
              Kyoshi at least killed relatively quickly.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gyatso literally killed an entire room full of firebenders

        They had him cornered and killing was an attempt to survive. It's not so much a "Never kill" as much as it is "don't execute". There is a difference.
        Aang had beaten Ozai in such a way he didn't need to kill him, he could be taken in.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gyatso literally killed an entire room full of firebenders

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a lot easier to break a rule of your culture when you're not the last member of it.
        Gyatso didn't have to fear that his killing would contribute to the entire way of life disappearing from the world forever. Just the opposite actually.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        plebs don't matter

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That might be a more powerful gesture if he hadn't already killed tons of fire nation soldiers.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's stupid and irresponsible.

      One of his past lives from the same culture explicitly told him that his responsibility to protect the world was more important than his culture.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole 7th book was Harry being mad at being told to kill people and get called out that this is a war and no school
      He was a good duelist but he always wanted to end fights without killing people(thats's why in the start of the book Voldemort knew who was the real harry).
      Lupin and I think Ron call this out and you can see in the end , although he will still continue to be like that , is not going to let people like Voldemort to live.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If Harry didn't want to kill Voldemort then why would he even bother with the horcruxes?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dumbledore and Harry said that in the 6th book, it doesn't matter if he want or not, Voldemort was scared at Harry because he may be a chosen one so in the end the profecy(one will kill the other) will happen
          Harry knew that but almost killing draco, his fear of dying and not wanting to kill other people was what he need to overcome in the last book.
          I don't know why people fail to understand a children book.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            except he doesn't and still casts Expelliarmus in their final duel

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              It dies because the wand is not going to kill his owner because the retcon from that book.
              He already knew that Voldemort was fricked and used expelliarmus to mock at him

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                still, he doesn't pull exactly pull the trigger, so to speak

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry wasn't a pacifist.
    Rowling should have just stolen the ending from Wizards. Would have been poetical for Voledmort, who has such disdain for muggles, to be killed by one of their inventions.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rowling should have just stolen the ending from Wizards. Would have been poetical for Voledmort, who has such disdain for muggles, to be killed by one of their inventions.
      Can agree thatd be a kino twist. Also while watching was always shocked on how no one uses a gun ever on a wizard when it could provide itself useful

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're British, to them guns are mythical devices their ancestors once used in the distant past.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The official explanation Rowling gave as to why Harry and Voldemort didn't just use guns is that muggle technology doesn't always work correctly when used by wizards since their magic interferes with it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thats a standard cop-out.
        Rowling clearly has no clue how guns work.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Harry potter can't work with guns existing, they obliterate all magic.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          JK Rowling pulled that out of her ass not ten seconds after she was asked about it, I guarantee it.

          Im pretty sure she explains this in the first book, radios and gps's and shit "go haywire" when brought to Hogwarts

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Guns are entirely mechanical.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              fair I guess. Considering that guns were prevalent in the late middle ages youd think wizards would come up with spells to deflect bullets or something

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are some 15th century spellbound that have spells that offer reproduction from bullets.
                But muzzle velocities are so much faster now.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s part of the cloaking spell that keeps Hogwarts hidden from muggles, and only affects electronics. Doesn’t explain why a good old-fashioned boomstick wouldn’t work.
            I’m by no means autistic enough to expect Rowling to write her children’s story about a wizard school around the mechanics of modern firearms, but it’s funny to watch her try.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        JK Rowling pulled that out of her ass not ten seconds after she was asked about it, I guarantee it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rowlling also said that America has gun magic so the entire thing is pointless. Don't forget Rowling also has a single school for the entire Asian and Indian sub continent yet Europe has like 6 schools.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rowling also said that Voldemort can’t feel love because he was conceived under the effects of a love potion.”

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Id love to know rowlings take on gun magic considering uh current things

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I kinda feel it would be anticlimatic to just shoot voldemort death.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    because harry potter and aang arent the same people with the same worldview and so are hung up on different things

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry Potter isn't complex enough to examine the ethics of justifiable murder. Voldemort, as they say, "needed killing". For Harry it was personal: Voldemort killed his parents and robbed him of a normal childhood. The fact that he was also wizard Hitler was more or less just a footnote in the revenge plot.

    Aang on the other hand lived in a world where people asked questions about the cycle and nature of violence. He was raised to seek nonviolent resolution to his problems, even if it was impractical.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Aang on the other hand lived in a world where people asked questions about the cycle and nature of violence. He was raised to seek nonviolent resolution to his problems, even if it was impractical.
      I mean im pretty sure sokka killed a bunch of fire nation soldiers with his war blimp but apparently killing their psychopathic dictator is too much?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, he blew up a Fire Nation... balloon I think? While wearing their insignia as well.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They had to create a whole new arc for the protagonist to not be too overshadowed by the rest of the other important characters doing their part near the end like Zuko, Sokka or even Azula's madness.
    There's a reason why he's suddendly crying about not killing a man he has no emotional bonds attached to while on the previous seasons it was quite simple to beat the guys up then running away.
    In the end, Toph learning not to shit from strangers was much better written than Aang "learning" to use his powers with 'justice,' if he really wanted that he would have sent Ozai to an Earth kingdom/tribal trial.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was mostly aang's personal philosophy, literally everyone else was telling him to go ahead and kill the guy

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >here's your 10 year old pussy boi of a protagonist
    >Oh! And here's the main antagonist. A beefy and tall long-haired DILF earned from product of years from training, a lot more bigger and intimidating than his 5"1 obese balding brother
    I want to get wrecked by Ozai while Aang and Iroh jerk their pencil dicks to it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      ew

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Why isn't show the same as other show?"
    The more important question is why you think Avatar should be the same as HP?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      In this case harry potter is superior to aang because he actually had the balls to kill his nemesis. Also aang is a bland character, atla is held up by the other characters being so good despite the MC being boring

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aang is great. Harry is a homosexual.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody remembers ATLA outside of porn. HP defined and continues to define varying generations outside of its books. JK Rowling could purchase the ATLA IP as a joke and turn all the characters into Fu Manchu stereotypes then bury it. Objectively speaking it is not a contest. Its like comparing One Piece to all comic garbage in existence.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody remembers ATLA outside of porn
        Id say that about korra tho i do think ATLA is still fondly remebered even outside of cooming and waifu posting however i agree harry potter is way more popular and influential then ATLA is

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What the literal frick am I reading
        What type of schizophrenia is this

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        ATLA will always fondly be remembered as a decent show that got a shitty sequel show, a bad live action film, and soon another shit live action show.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and soon another shit live action show.
          Thats still happening isnt it

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >remembered
          What do you mean "remembered?" Over the last three years ATLA and Korra have gotten more unique viewers monthly on streaming services than the Harry Potter films. Harry Potter is consistently struggling to maintain relevance while Avatar has gotten so popular that Viacom execs had to dedicate more resources to monetizing it.
          Fantastic Beasts 1 and Hogwarts Legacy have been the only HP properties to bring in any younger fans over the last 7 years

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That fantastic beasts sequel was so fricking bad that i didnt even bother watching the third one. Why the frick couldnt it have stayed a relatively separate spin off like the first one was, why did they have to make the sequel a big hoopla about stopping le proto moldybutt instead of having newt going on a magical safari with magic creatures or something. I dont fricking care about grindlewald i wanna see the goofy magic animals goddamnit

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              JK pretty much sold the rights to WB. She had nothing to do with anything HP after the books ended and it's clear she has no interest in doing anything more with HP. She's a divorced British psycho feminis who is set for life over her shitty book series.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                she wrote the screenplays for the Fantastic Beasts movies, and she wrote Cursed Child

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rowling is a shitty writer, but her not wanting to see mentally ill men's wieners in public bathrooms doesn't make her a psycho.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                However mentally ill women's wieners are a completely different ballgame, and I'm not sure why she's so obsessed with them. Penis envy maybe?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fantastic Beasts 1 alone grossed more revenue than every Avatar show, game, movie, and book combined. You're comparing one of the biggest IPs ever with hundreds of millions of fans with one whose main product is a show that averaged 4 million viewers at the absolute peak of its popularity.
            https://books.google.com/books?id=4TcTDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA167#v=onepage&q&f=false

            Like for context here, Smallville by the end of season 5 was famously legally revealed to have grossed $420 million in advertising revenue, home video, and most merchandise sales, by June 2006. And S1-S5 Smallville's viewership was a lot higher than Avatar's, aimed at a more valuable demographic, and had about TWICE the runtime as both Avatar shows combined. If we're generous then those two shows might have made ~$200 million in revenue for their network in total, plus whatever they got paid to send them to streaming. It's tiny.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Its like comparing One Piece to all comic garbage in existence.
        American capeshit such as batman is way more popular and influential then the stretchy pirate gum gum show with the women who look like pic related with their long necks

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Interesting. Since americans love op with all their hearts and use everyday to make porn out of those women. Maybe you are not american lol.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one cares about one penis in america except weebs

            >American capeshit such as batman is way more popular and influential then the stretchy pirate gum gum show
            That's not true.

            Massive Cinemaphile cope

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >American capeshit such as batman is way more popular and influential then the stretchy pirate gum gum show
          That's not true.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        We need to make all anons take a mandatory arguing course. None of your points make sense nor are they relevant to why ATLA should be like HP.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The IQ of Cinemaphile has been steadily declining with time, unfortunately. We’ve always had morons but the ratio is getting worse and worse. I’ll go days without seeing a proper nerd-fight anymore. Basic shit like appeal to popularity.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The IQ of Cinemaphile has been steadily declining with time, unfortunately. We’ve always had morons but the ratio is getting worse and worse. I’ll go days without seeing a proper nerd-fight anymore. Basic shit like appeal to popularity.

          The modern anon is less likely to read more than the first 6 words of any post. That's why these homosexuals don't even bother.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you get ATLA mixed up with Korra bro?

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lion Jesus Man says he's wrong.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >guy from a colonialism rooted culture doesnt mind killing
    >last member from a completelly pacifistic culture does
    Golly gee jeepers anon I wonder why the last pacifistic vegetarian nomad airbender would have problems as a character on the matter of killing someone

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      All your post has done is reinforce my sentiment that aang consists on a diet completely on estrogen and S-O-Y

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ATLA is unironically a more mature story than HP. It’s only a shame the ending pussied out and they couldn’t commit to a decision.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of this would even be an argument if Zuko had just ended up killing his father instead. The fight with Azula was top-tier but even as a kid I felt like it would have been better for him to have been there to do what Aang couldn’t.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Azula should've killed Ozai.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        He would’ve just smacked the shit out of her if she even attempted any sort of coup. The man didn’t spend years both coddling and emotionally abusing this girl for her to stand up to him in any fashion.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The man didn’t spend years both coddling and emotionally abusing this girl for her to stand up to him in any fashion.
          Please, Ursa did more emotional damage to Azula is a single afternoon.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Now hold on, anon. You’re underestimating how much Ursa fricked it both Zuko AND Azula’s lives in a single afternoon.
            Goddamn The Search was horribly written.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Azula should've killed Ozai.

          Nah, I like it, Ozai betrayed and killed by his own creation. Maybe even in the end realizing he's done, giving her praise for bringing his ideals to the next level in her.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He should have taken a page from real history and had Ozai blinded and castrated. Would have been less deus ex machina and satisfied Aang's childish scruples against killing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quickly followed by taking whatever remains of his wives and daughters to repopulate the air nation.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Katara, bend his balls.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    firelord is generic magic facist guy but still a human being
    voldemort lost so many pieces of his soul that he visually became an ayy lmao and basically isnt a human at this point

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who gives a shit?

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    he had a big dick, what do you want from him?

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry doesn't kill Voldemort as much as he just uno-reverses his own killing spell back at him.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for being the first person in the thread to say what actually happened. Expelliarmus, learned from Snape. Simply the best.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Though I suppose I should add that Harry being the current master of the Elder Wand that was in Voldemort’s possession helped in no small part in that situation.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        well no one here actually watched harry potter

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    seething non-canon korrashitters and netflix secondaries are trying every day to slander Aang even though he did the right thing
    the execution of the former fire lord should be decided by the people, but instead they put him in a cell, so blame them if you wanted him dead
    Aang rendered him harmless anyway

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think people disliked the execution and not the idea itself.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry does't kill Voldemort, Voldemort kills himself because of a bizarre technicality first introduced in the last book.
    Rowling is such a bad writer it's unreal, and somehow modern competitors are even worse.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bizarre given Harry willfully killed Quirrell at age 11 by using his demonstratively corrosive touch to grab the man’s face and reduce him to dust and at 12 he fought a massive death snake with a sword. He really pussed out in Goblet.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rowling is such a bad writer it's unreal, and somehow modern competitors are even worse.
      Obligatory

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like that gives Rowling too much credit, by assuming she had a coherent vision for the series and didn't just wing it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think the implication moreso is that Rowling's worldview subconsciously prevents her from putting in a fulfilling thematic endnote to her story, or writing her characters in a way that they can actively challenge the issues that exist in the world they inhabit in any meaningful way.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not reading all that garbage

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        tldr

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          He doesn't think that anyone, but leftist can write good stories and that's why they outgrew a children's franchise.
          I can't find anything of the best sellers list written by a leftist though. It's all liberals and conservatives.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Umberto Eco was a leftist

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              First I've ever heard of him to be honest, the book description for what he wrote looks a bit interesting.
              Does he have the same problem that most lefty writers have where they over focus on their message and forget to write good characters and natural dialogue?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that I've noticed

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cool, I'll check it out if my library has a copy

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Name of the Rose is very good.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Baudolino wasn't very good

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            is that cover for and then there were none real?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        God i fricking hate right wingers

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Harry didn't even kill Voldemort.

        Frick off

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          One point to Slytherin for every b***h you've gotten.

          ZERO POINTS!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The idea of wands being loyal started in the 4th book. The elder wand being capricious and only remaining loyal to whoever wins it exists to highlight Harry's virtue and wisdom (he "won" it by disarming Draco) and Voldemort's foolishness.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a better book about British Wizards Magicians
    I recommend every time Harry Potter it brought up.
    It made Neil Gaiman mad.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I might actually read this because I fricking hate Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's really good.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are quite the number of books about british wizards that are better than hp. That's not that impressive.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dumbledore had to die because hes the only character that treated voldemort like a person

    kinda fricked up ngl.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Voldemort is a sociopathic piece of shit because he was born from a loveless union
      What did Rowling mean by this?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Merope’s genes were already twisted to hell through her family’s insane inbreeding for genetic purity, it’s not surprising he turned out psychopathic. Most of the Gaunts were known to be violent and mentally ill. Tom just got lucky enough he inherited his father’s dashing good looks and not have Gaunt stapled to his forehead as a big warning sign for a surname.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry = Slytherin
    Ron = Hufflepuff
    Hemorrhoid = Ravenclaw
    Malfoy = Slytherin
    Cedric = Gryffindor

    Change my mind

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Harry = Slytherin
      >Malfoy = Slytherin
      Fujo spotted. You tried to hide it by spacing them out but i see through your lies, fujo

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Harry = Slytherin
      The whole point is that he could be either house but he chose Griffindor
      >Ron = Hufflepuff
      Nah, he wasn't different than other gryfindor like that guy from the 6th book or Dean. He never show some traits to be Hufflepuff.
      >Hemorrhoid = Ravenclaw
      Sorta Agree , but that poo twins was one griffindor and another ravenclaw so we don't know.
      >Malfoy = Slytherin
      Agree
      >Cedric = Gryffindor
      Nah, his personality doesn't fit. And he was more empathic than brave

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh please the whole point is harry was a pussy b***h afraid of becoming a bigger evil than voldemort

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          If Draco wasn't a moron he would have went to slitherin

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only character who is in the wrong house is Percy. Everyone else is rightly sorted.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Hemorrhoid = Ravenclaw

      No. Hermy-own demonstrated why she's in Gyffindor in the first damn book.

      >"Me! Books! And cleverness! There are more important things — friendship and bravery and — oh Harry — be careful!"

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The ending would be fixed if Energy Bending had been early established as a known power of Avatars that is lost if they kill anyone.

    Past Avatars stopped using it because killing was just simpler, which lead to Fire Nation concluding that might makes right. In this situation, Aang's pacifism and not killing Ozai or anyone would have a purpose of proving that he is the true spiritual leader of the world and fixing the past mistake of Avatars breaking the condition for Energy Bending.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah energy bending is stupid. Just have him capture the guy and hand him over to Zuko to decide on the punishment.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Nickelodeon is run by homosexuals who wouldn't allow it

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aang killing the firelord in ATLA

    but, he didnt kill the firelord, he took his bending away making him useless. did you even watch the final episodes? probably not. shutup

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know he didnt kill the firelord you idiot thats my whole point in how he didnt which makes him a pussy

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How does it feel having reading comprehension that is significantly worse than is average for people on this board?

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Harry didn't even kill Voldemort.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    aang's religion told him that all life was sacred
    harry didn't have a religion

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aangs religion does allow him to kill actually. Monk Gyatso's skeleton is surrounded by firebender corpses and when Aang contacts the past avatars for advice Avatar Yangchen, who is an airbender herself, tells him to kill Ozai

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >harry didn't have a religion
      I guess he'd be Anglican, which isblike the same thing.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still find it weird how a group called air Nomads were wiped out because they lived exclusively in 4 permanently inhabited settlements.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think this because the writers wanted the Air Nomads to be Tibetan nomads but also Buddhist monks living in monasteries at the same time and fricked it up so we ended with Buddhist monks with Tibetan trappings. The Earth Kingdoms, Water Tribes and Fire Nation are all based on irl countries and cultures, but the Air Nomads were meant to be based on a culture and ended up being based on a religion

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Free tibet taiwan is a free country tiannemen square bing chilling

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw the real monks Airbenders are based off have no issue killing people who upset their way of life and in fact encourage it.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not the Jedi way.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    what the hell are you talking about, even in the final frickin battle Harry is still casting Expelliarmus against Voldemort. He dies from a fricking spell rebound.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I know he's talking about the movies and maybe he has poor comprehension skills, but they say explicitly in the books how Voldemort dies and Harry never once tries to kill him. Voldemort killed Voldemort.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Voldemort wasn’t the leader of a country. There would still be war crimes and political unrest if Aang straight up assassinated the Fire Lord, causing more war.

    Voldemort was a straight wanted criminal with cult followers. Of which only Harry could defeat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There would still be war crimes and political unrest if Aang straight up assassinated the Fire Lord, causing more war.
      Yeah but the country wouldve crumbled without ozai too

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    British people are accustomed to violence.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So if living things can be horcruxes, what's stopping Voldie from making a fellow wizard a horcrux, and then having them make him their horcrux?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The souls are probably going to separate upon death of one of the two, with the soul fragment being freed. So it wouldn't be particularly good.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aang was an airnomad, he was trained to be a pacifist. He doesn't want to harm anyone, and often tries to find a non-violent resolution to a problem. Eventually he had accept that he can't be a pacifist and the Avatar at the same time. Restoring balance to the world involves using his unique abilities to fight the enemies of peace. At the end, he still fought the Fire Emperor, but he did it on his own terms, without killing him, because this is the type of person he really is. He is Aang, the airnomad.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're a dickbender

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Another Korragay b***hes about ATLA thread

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >in the end
    Aang was like this for the entire series, OP. Constantly on his moral high horse, and always either rubbing everyone’s face in it when his monkish views were proven right, or ignoring things whenever they were proven flawed.

    I’m fine with Aang finding a way to avoid killing the firelord, but it should have (a) been foreshadowed more and (b) had the finale focus on Aang having accepted that he has to compromise his beliefs and talking to his past lives for advice on how to cope with how he’s going to live with himself after taking a life rather than actively looking to weasel his way out of the situation. You can still have Aang not being able to go through with it in the end and pulling some alternative out (whether it’s a more foreshadowed energy bending or whatever), but it needed to be a last minute refusal, not the culmination of Aang whining about not wanting to do it for two hours.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's so fitting that the series starts and ends with Aang running away from his responsibility.

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Voldemort's army wasn't a literal nation like Ozai's, It was a terrorist cell.
    It had no real political power, all of its bureaucratic dealings had to be done in the dark behind closed doors.

    We can bomb the shit out of ISIS and shoot Osama in the head, but if we did the same to Russia or Kim Jong Un we'd throw the world into a new World War simply due to the sheer size of their power. Killing Ozai would have made him a martyr, some new shmuck would just take over in his place and use his death as a political jumping off point to rile the remaining Fire Nation into going back to war.

    Voldemort is really the only true power his forces has, he IS their nuke, without him their order is just a bunch of stupid fricks in cloaks LARPING in the woods. Sure, there are some powerful wizards in there, but there are so many more on the good guys side, the Deatheaters are a tiny, tiny minority.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Getting rid of putin at this point would solve alot of shit

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is russia, getting rid of comunist gave us Yeltsin.
        Is like believing geting rid of Assad will solve shit kek

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          What was wrong with yeltsin anyways?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Chechen , Transnitria, I think Tajik conflict was too.
            This is like when I heard many morons saying that "what's wrong with Bush" or trying to pretend he was much better than Trump or Obama kek

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is russia, getting rid of comunist gave us Yeltsin.
      Is like believing geting rid of Assad will solve shit kek

      Chechen , Transnitria, I think Tajik conflict was too.
      This is like when I heard many morons saying that "what's wrong with Bush" or trying to pretend he was much better than Trump or Obama kek

      That logics moronic thats like saying getting rid of hitler didnt solve anything

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i liked the fact that aang didn't compromise his morals even in a situation that most people would of. That makes him more of a hero imo, plus it more or less proves aang/iroh point that having power doesn't mean you are right.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fake drama to waste time and distract you from the fact that Aang and Ozai have no relationship and all the real narrative weight is going to Zuko as he confronts his dad and sister and also the sins of his nation. Aang's superfluous to the finale except insofar as he prevents Ozai from just torching everyone else.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's different because Voldemort was an inhuman creature incapable of understanding the concept of love, because he was a rape baby. Meanwhile Ozai was born a regular baby, and therefore his life had value.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    In theory, isn't taking Ozai's bending away more immoral than killing him? By taking out his bending he violated his bodily anatomy.

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Voldemort was already dead. He was a freak who lobotomized his own soul and made it literally impossible for him to live normally again

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He was a lich that accidentally made his mortal enemy into a phylactery as an infant.

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you write books that are basically British boarding school pulp mixed with mystery and suddenly people expect you to deliver Tolkeinesque worldbuilding

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