They both only make movies that other people write, are adaptations, or remakes. And when they make movies that they write they are ignored or panned. They’re two sides of the same hack-jive turkey coin.
How did this worthless minimalist hack end up with his filthy Québécois claws on the best science-fiction novel ever written? Jesus Christ I hated Part 2. Can’t wait to laugh at you all when Part 3 is girlboss Zendaya rising up against Paul, has absolutely nothing to do with the second and third books, and ends the series because he’s too smoothbrained to understand God-Emperor.
> ends the series because he’s too smoothbrained to understand God-Emperor.
It's not about him not understanding God-Emporer, it's that Messiah basically end's Paul's story and motivations that we're set up through Dune.
He's making a trilogy on Paul, his revenge and his Jihad.
No, he stated in an interview he doesn’t like God-Emperor. Not liking God-Emperor means you fundamentally don’t like or understand the entire series as a whole. Denis has a smooth, smooth brutalist concrete pebble for a brain.
>He is the directors Director.
That's Paul Thomas Anderson.
Spielberg is the 90s normie's director, and the king of Hollywood now.
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Other guy made uhh.... boogie nights...... and uhhhhhhh....... mangolia????
And the other guy made Indiana Jones, E.T., Jurassic Park, Munchen, Saving Private Ryan, Close Encounters, Jaws and episode of Columbo.
Gee i wonder who's the most influental living director with the most solid line of work.
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>Director's director >the one who made the most box office normie shit that appeals to the lowest common denominator
Are you fricking moronic or just trolling?
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Because he is one of the best directors of all time.
Zack makes kick ass visuals. The problem is that his stories suck ass and his idea of depth is making references to other stuff and having his characters angst.
The core of the issue is that they are hiring him to make artsy shit when they should be hiring him to remake/adapt stuff. In particular stuff that has lots of violence/sex and wouldn't be too bad with some random Jesus parallels.
He should be adapting the Preacher comic or Stephen King's The Stand. Maybe remaking another Dracula or Frankenstein. Not trying to "launch the new Star Wars".
Army of the Dead still had a decent intro, and I think the blurriness in some of the zombie action scenes kinda made sense. And Army of Thieves looked good in general.
I do think Rebel Moon looks like blurry garbage, though. Not sure why he went with that look.
But if it is indeed his taste/incompetence at handling digital cameras, probably keep him in the editor/director's room not handling the camera/cameramen himself.
It's funny you mentioned the Star Wars parallel because he literally is a modern George Lucas: Great ideas and world building, but absolutely horrible at scripts and dialogue.
Watching Rebel Moon is like watching George Lucas' original rough cut of Star Wars - which was reportedly so bad he had to have a team of editors including his ex-wife go in to recut and save it.
His most celebrated movies are literally adaptations from existing media you fricking absolute mong. Snyder's first OG story was Sucker Punch. He's a hack.
This guy just throws random prexisting ideas and design into one pot and thinks what emerges is something original.
Being inspired by something is fine but it needs more than that to get its own identity.
>Zack makes kick ass visuals.
This meme is over now that he's doing the cinematography of his movies himself and they look worse than ever.
It's funny you mentioned the Star Wars parallel because he literally is a modern George Lucas: Great ideas and world building, but absolutely horrible at scripts and dialogue.
Watching Rebel Moon is like watching George Lucas' original rough cut of Star Wars - which was reportedly so bad he had to have a team of editors including his ex-wife go in to recut and save it.
>Great ideas and world building, but absolutely horrible at scripts and dialogue.
Snyder has no great ideas, Snyder's worldbuilding is terrible. >which was reportedly so bad he had to have a team of editors including his ex-wife go in to recut and save it.
Fricking moron.
can someone legitimately tell me how Snyder made Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen which are amazing movies then end up to trash shit like Rebel Moon? HOW??? did he cheat on his homework?
Starting with Army of the Dead (2021) he has taken on the role of cinematographer in all his movies and he's very bad at it.
Check the IMDB, he used to hire competent photographers. this is not the only reason obviously, but it's a big one.
This.
300 is just hoo-ah propaganda slop, Dawn is just a mediocre zombie flick, and Watchmen mangles the story into a rote Superhero story where the good guys just give up.
it must be surreal getting (you)'s in the double digits exclusively from ESLs that don't get sarcasm
your post made me genuinely crack up for what it's worth
This part was so cringe and awkward. Them sucking ass at acting made it seem like they were in love (or was that the intent because all the slowmo pan over only happened for lovers o.o). I was expecting the kid and her to kiss at one point.
Both the blond boy and the white farmer try to sacrifice themselves to rescue the female characters during a key moment where they are about to die.
There's no other reading other than the blond boy and the assassin lady relationship being romantic.
It could have been a motherly thing if there were more children in the mist, which she interacts with, showing that she cares for children and not just a child. But there isn't. It's just her and the blond boy.
Their relationship also mirror others that are of romantic nature;
>It's a Star Wars ripoff. >There's literally nothing original about it.
Star Wars and Seven Samurai ripoff you mean, the whole small team defends helpless village and even some of the characters where straight off ripoffs from the Kurosawa movie like the lady who was really good with the red hot swords. What the frick where those anyway, the main character burns her hand when using one to kill an enemy soldier so they seem to be really hot to handle and seem to burn through metal quite easily, but still have visible blade ?
>What the frick where those anyway,
my guess is they're metal blades that somehow are superheated to cut thru metal. but who the frick knows?
what the frick is up with the guns? they shoot some kind of glowing thing that looks both like energy and a liquid substance.
so she could hold the swords, they show in the last couple scenes that the swords are very hot
snyder just didn't think of showing us that before the flash back
yeah i dunno, there were lots of stuff that didn't make sense
like that one ship that took off without closing the door and got a grenade thrown into it
it could be a metaphor for turning herself into someone that can only hurt and not hold a child in her arms anymore.
the fact is, Sneeder's use of metaphors and symbolism is clunky as frick because he's a bit of a simpleton who thinks he's very smart and deep.
but his fans are dumber than him and think he's a genius.
But she could've just worn gloves/gauntlets like the Imperium's soldier do, she didn't need to cut off her own fricking arms.
This was explicitly explained? What?
The arms carried the rage and emotion of her ancestors along with their bloodlust. They basically made her a supersoldier.
If she had just worn some gloves then she wouldn't have been any better as a fighter.
>made her a supersoldier.
she literally can't even kill 5 kripteya without being rekt tho.
she 1v1s the spider woman but then she goes limp in the most important battle.
they could have had her kill at least 20 of them, shown her bleeding and bruised on top of a pile of corpses, then the big dick kriptofricker captain enters the stage, she gets almost killed, the kid distracts the guy like in the movie and she kills him and then dies, like in the movie.
Sneeder can't even execute basic tropes properly.
>This 100lb small woman could only wreck like 5 elite soldiers single-handedly! >Why wasn't she an anime waifu who killed like a thousand soldiers while laughing before being killed by arbitrary story reasons?
>elite soldiers
the same elite soldiers that get killed by the villager girl, the chink kid soldier and some other women and children?
every one of the frickers they collected in the first movie is supposed to be special otherwise what's the fricking point? just get 10 random mercenaries in the shitty alien bar they went to and call it a day.
>the same elite soldiers that get killed by the villager girl
Weird that a cannon wrecks soldiers using swords eh? >the chink kid soldier
The guy who almost immediately jobbed when fighting just one of them? >some other women and children
The group of peasants who all cowered and hid while Nemesis took on like 5 soldiers? Did you actually watch the film or did you just have it on in the background while shitposting?
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Anonymous
did YOU actually watch the movie?
how many squads of kripteya entered the long house? hint: the answer is not 1.
the asiatic only fought 5 of them. all the others got wrecked by the village women and elderly somehow. don't ask me how, ask Sneeder.
Director's Cut gonna upgrade it to a ~7/10 probably (fix what's fixable, resulting in unsatisfying franchise bait and(newly introduced) tasteless edginess becoming main criticisms).
Dunc however will forever be stuck in bland, subversive shit territory, less capable of subtlety even than Snyder's sensitive fratbro cheese.
I just don’t even want to watch it.
These studio execs are morons. >Maybe since the watch numbers were X for part one it means they’ll be at least around that for part 2
If the numbers were high for part one and the response was that people thought it was shit, then it means no one will watch part two.
They should have released the directors cut to change the narrative.
At least have some ok battle scenes with a "best value warhammer 40k" feel to it.
But yeah, this man only does 5h long slo-mo turds since the Dawn of the Dead remake and 300.
kek this reminds me of when i had a troll Letterboxd account and would say shit like >when viewed as an interstitial matrix, it becomes an undeniablly subversive (and subtle) metacommentary on post 9/11 immigration politics
about some fricking mike myers film or something similarly awful
I am gonna watch these movies when the extended ones release. I fully expect them to be completely awful. However, I'm curious... what's so bad about them exactly?
The list is enormous but can basically be boiled down to Zack Snyder indulging every stupid whim he has and no one stopping him along the way. The hideous "everything except a small circle in the center of the shot is out of focus" is a great place to start on a technical level. Narratively look no further than the base stakes of these two movies - a Star Destroyer is fighting a bunch of peasants in a village with three buildings over a fricking grain harvest despite them being a Star Destroyer and being capable of deploying hundreds of troops, a dozen tanks, a dozen starships, etc. And when they learn that every single major enemy of the Empire is in this three building village, they don't just nuke it from orbit. The story doesn't work for many reasons, but the stakes are one of the most glaring issues.
I don't want to keep writing but another glaring problem is both films also have the same sequences. For example, both have a scene of the Main Character looking at the camera to tell us her backstory while she's laying down to sleep with Han Duo. Another is having all the side characters telling everyone their backstory one after another while in the first movie, it was each of them being recruited one after another. It's just so fricking lazy.
Also the stupid voice over at the start doesn't set the opening scene, it recaps the previous movie. Not even Star Wars was this moronic. The dude can't even get the introductory information conveyed correctly.
>Another is having all the side characters telling everyone their backstory one after another while in the first movie, it was each of them being recruited one after another. It's just so fricking lazy.
I want to add to that they everyone has the same backstory.
>a Star Destroyer is fighting a bunch of peasants in a village with three buildings over a fricking grain harvest despite them being a Star Destroyer
watch the first one and im watching the second and still don't understand this shit
you could've set it on a planet and had higher stakes instead of just "le nordic village in le space"
A lot of the time I watch movies I don't think i'll enjoy in the background while I browse this shithole, but after trying that with Part 1 there's no fricking way. You would have to be moronic
I unironically turned it off after that line "I was not scared of dying, I was scared of losing you," I give the actor credit for trying to make it work but Jesus Christ. I did get through it eventually but I didn't understand why several times in the movie, they repeated lines for emphasis (EMPHASIS). At least four times.
Stormtroopers seem WAY more competent then these soldiers. It would be like if Obi Wan blew up the fricking star destroyer in the first movie when he snuck aboard, awful
Theres only like 3 fight scenes, all are in the same exact battle. Im not joking when I say the majority of the shooting is just the bad guys missing DOZENS of farmers, and hitting nothing
i unironically like most of zacks other movies and thought these could actually be kino but they're shlock of the highest order. what the frick happened here?
it happens every single time a streaming platform releases anything they made.
they can make up statistics or just put a preview on their main page that starts automatically and count that as a view, or they can count any amount of watching, even a few seconds, as a full view.
there's a million ways to either skew the statistics or just fabricate them. >most watched black and white movie with an albino african director released on a odd numbered sunday in history!
they don't have to they can just say the truth that it was indeed most streamed but that's hardly an achievement since any new shit with big enough shilling campaign manages this
when you spend $150m on producing this turd + another $150m shilling it and its measure of success is being the first when the 2nd is some cartoon that cost $3.50, you're not making reasonable investments
being the first is meaningless without the actual numbers and context ie every other week releases and their budgets for comparison
Remember all those YT comments around when Army OTD came out which said something like "this is just what Snyder needs, original IP and creative freedom" - and this is what we get, the most hacky, derivative, uninspired cgi slowmo effects slop ever put to screen.
>interstellar empire >spaceships fueled by coal, guess they just start shoveling faster when the captain wants to FTL >reliant on like 8 sacks of grain from half a galaxy away >while also operating literal resurrection machines >top moron thinks he's cool after calling a chick who gives scars as a main career "scargiver"
Bravo Sneeder.
>it's gonna get good when the R rated cut of Rebel Moon 3 part II comes out it will be wroth it bro!
this is literally the permanent loss promise of future profits movie making
How are these movies apparently so bad? I was waiting for the extended versions to watch them but I don't think I'm even going to bother, they just get universally bad reviews from all sides.
Nothing in Villeneuve’s Dune series is as good as Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon, which revives mythic understanding of both mankind’s history and fate. Rebel Moon shares the pop-culture wit of David Lynch’s 1984 Dune adaptation, but instead of surrealism, Snyder brought kinetic, erotic excitement that elevated the sci-fi genre. Its imagery is daring, immediate, and reverberant, Dune: Part 2 is the anti–Rebel Moon. Moviegoers who settle for Villeneuve’s monotonous formula surrender to film culture’s decline.
I'm beginning to notice a pattern here
every snydershit without a miss is nothing less than a flawless revolutionary work of genius single handedly uplifting cinema into a higher astral plane and doubling the human cognitive capacities
>you're a Somalian goat herder >Nimitz class carrier pulls up to the shore of your village >Some Amercian Admiral with two squads of marines demands that you surrender 200 goats to them to feed the crew. >You mount the defense of your village with local warlords >It will be a ground battle because goats are to valuable for the americans to bomb you.
This is what this movie wants you to accept as logical.
As I understand it, the evil empire wants to conquer this tiny world for their grain?
The empire has a grain problem for which they will deploy the overwhelmingly powerful imperial fleet?
kek it's exactly this, what a fricking ridiculous premise and yet there it is on screen
>every single character delivers a motivational speech... twice over >run time is ~2hours.. one hour of which was in slow motion
what was hack snyder thinking bros?
One big problem is that it's another retelling of Seven Samurai. Do you have any idea how many times that's been done? Magnificent Seven and it's various sequels and the remake from a few years back, A Bug's Life, Three Amigos, Wild Hogs, Battle Beyond the Stars... Hell Star Wars did it three times.
I don't think Snyder is a total hack, but he's definitely let his success and fanbase go to his head and it's caused him to become a weaker filmmaker as a result.
I honestly wish people would stop 'hate watching' things. There are so many shit movies and shit shows that end up successful mostly because people hate watch them just so they can have something to talk about.
yes, however you have to consider that this is on netflix, if you're already subbed it costs you nothing to watch it. maybe they put it on and then do something else. still counts for netflix.
it's not like they have to physically go to a theater and buy tickets.
I would like to see what would have happened if the Rebel Moon movies were released in theaters. probably the first would have done ok but not good because of the novelty factor, then the second would have had a massive drop after the first weekend.
Why watch it at all?
I MUST CONSUME COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF GARBAGE MEDIA
I watch 1 movie every year or two. I don't even know why I come here. I used to love movies
movies have been dead since the writer's strike a decade ago
because it was supposed to be "good" and the next star wars.
I fast forwarded through 80% of it and watched it all in 30 minutes.
I did the same.
>because it was supposed to be "good"
Really, after the first dumpster fire?
Watching shit movies with friends is hilarious.
I think it's time to finally admit Zack Snyder is not as good as Denis Villeneuve
They both only make movies that other people write, are adaptations, or remakes. And when they make movies that they write they are ignored or panned. They’re two sides of the same hack-jive turkey coin.
>aaaaaaaaa
>AAAAAAA
Wow so deep
he is not wrong. Only women like dialogue.
would you rather this or someone like snyder creating Taylor swift-esque depth in dialogue
yeah gotta hand it to him i don't remember DUNC 2 for the dialogue.
the sound design in that movie alone elevates it
>I don't remember movies because of a good line
>Literally the only good part of DUNC 2 is when Paul is shit talking all the Fremen
I don't disagree
I do.
in a way he's right. It makes what little dialogue a director adds in more potent and memorable.
his dialogue was dogshit I can't blame him for being embarrassed and trying to reduce it to minimum
How did this worthless minimalist hack end up with his filthy Québécois claws on the best science-fiction novel ever written? Jesus Christ I hated Part 2. Can’t wait to laugh at you all when Part 3 is girlboss Zendaya rising up against Paul, has absolutely nothing to do with the second and third books, and ends the series because he’s too smoothbrained to understand God-Emperor.
> ends the series because he’s too smoothbrained to understand God-Emperor.
It's not about him not understanding God-Emporer, it's that Messiah basically end's Paul's story and motivations that we're set up through Dune.
He's making a trilogy on Paul, his revenge and his Jihad.
No, he stated in an interview he doesn’t like God-Emperor. Not liking God-Emperor means you fundamentally don’t like or understand the entire series as a whole. Denis has a smooth, smooth brutalist concrete pebble for a brain.
But the Preacher being in Children is an important continuation to the story. Or should be seen that way, at least
He's right though. The most kino moment in the whole Dune saga.
>you're a big guy
why doesn't he make silent film then?
Huh? The only memorable moment of Dunc 2 is that spanish-arab actor shouting Allah Al-Gaib
Like most good directors. Like Steven Spielberg. You DO know what Directors job is right? Dont tell me you like Nolan or Tarantula LOL.
I only like capeshit
>Spielberg
>good
actual lol
Imagine thinking Spielberg is in anyway: 'bad'.
He is the directors Director.
>He is the directors Director.
That's Paul Thomas Anderson.
Spielberg is the 90s normie's director, and the king of Hollywood now.
Other guy made uhh.... boogie nights...... and uhhhhhhh....... mangolia????
And the other guy made Indiana Jones, E.T., Jurassic Park, Munchen, Saving Private Ryan, Close Encounters, Jaws and episode of Columbo.
Gee i wonder who's the most influental living director with the most solid line of work.
>Director's director
>the one who made the most box office normie shit that appeals to the lowest common denominator
Are you fricking moronic or just trolling?
Because he is one of the best directors of all time.
Okay little buddy
But Snyder also takes jobs where he writes the movie like this garbage, Sucker Punch and Army of the Dead. All his worst movies.
The only decent thing he kinda wrote was Army of Thieves.
Zack makes kick ass visuals. The problem is that his stories suck ass and his idea of depth is making references to other stuff and having his characters angst.
The core of the issue is that they are hiring him to make artsy shit when they should be hiring him to remake/adapt stuff. In particular stuff that has lots of violence/sex and wouldn't be too bad with some random Jesus parallels.
He should be adapting the Preacher comic or Stephen King's The Stand. Maybe remaking another Dracula or Frankenstein. Not trying to "launch the new Star Wars".
He only started doing the cinematography for his own movies with Army of the Dead. Every movie since has looked like muddy blurry garbage.
Army of the Dead still had a decent intro, and I think the blurriness in some of the zombie action scenes kinda made sense. And Army of Thieves looked good in general.
I do think Rebel Moon looks like blurry garbage, though. Not sure why he went with that look.
But if it is indeed his taste/incompetence at handling digital cameras, probably keep him in the editor/director's room not handling the camera/cameramen himself.
>t. midwit
It's funny you mentioned the Star Wars parallel because he literally is a modern George Lucas: Great ideas and world building, but absolutely horrible at scripts and dialogue.
Watching Rebel Moon is like watching George Lucas' original rough cut of Star Wars - which was reportedly so bad he had to have a team of editors including his ex-wife go in to recut and save it.
That thing about Star Wars being saved in the edit has been roundly disprove though.
>which was reportedly so bad he had to have a team of editors including his ex-wife go in to recut and save it.
More lies from the sequeltards.
Please do not post on Cinemaphile if you don't know anything about television or film
>Zack Snyder
>Great ideas and world building
These are the """people""" we share this board with.
Snyder has no ideas or world-building.
His most celebrated movies are literally adaptations from existing media you fricking absolute mong. Snyder's first OG story was Sucker Punch. He's a hack.
This guy just throws random prexisting ideas and design into one pot and thinks what emerges is something original.
Being inspired by something is fine but it needs more than that to get its own identity.
>Zack makes kick ass visuals.
This meme is over now that he's doing the cinematography of his movies himself and they look worse than ever.
>Great ideas and world building, but absolutely horrible at scripts and dialogue.
Snyder has no great ideas, Snyder's worldbuilding is terrible.
>which was reportedly so bad he had to have a team of editors including his ex-wife go in to recut and save it.
Fricking moron.
>kick ass visuals
I literally stopped watching the part 1 after 5 minutes because those stupid lens flares and fricked up blurring effect.
lol
lmao even
the fact is
that's a 4 pounds dumbbell
he's just fricking tiny
I'm taller than both and Villememe looks dysgenic as frick.
Imagine thinking you need to lift heavy to get big. Surprised this guy isn't in a wheelchair by now.
All of us know lifting heavy things is the only thing morons are good at.
That a 50lb dumbbell?
Who gives a shit. Point was Snyder isn't a low-T numale with a molten face.
but he's 5'7"
Cope.
t. tallchad
No one thinks he is
He isn't even michael bay tier, Id rather see an enless amount of explosion than an endless amount of slow mo
Are you implying Denis is better than Michael Bay?
Dozen of slow motion scenes makes me wanna kms. The opposite with something like aquaman 2 too, jesus.
>finally
Denis was great until Dune now I hate him.
slow motion jesus man or mutts & bunkers in the desert man... gee what a choice
No frickin shit
It's time to admit Denis' sci-fi is only on the level of Snyder
it's marginally better as it's a functioning movie although each and every of its aspects is cowardly, boring and soulless
Your hatred blinds you.
can someone legitimately tell me how Snyder made Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen which are amazing movies then end up to trash shit like Rebel Moon? HOW??? did he cheat on his homework?
He's gotten incredibly up his own ass and can't/won't acknowledge his failings as a director.
he drank from the shamalan coolaid juice
Snyder is good at adapting with the help of other writers and Larry Fong as DP, but he's awful when left to his own devices and original ideas.
Starting with Army of the Dead (2021) he has taken on the role of cinematographer in all his movies and he's very bad at it.
Check the IMDB, he used to hire competent photographers. this is not the only reason obviously, but it's a big one.
it's simple
none of those movies is amazing
hope that helps
This.
300 is just hoo-ah propaganda slop, Dawn is just a mediocre zombie flick, and Watchmen mangles the story into a rote Superhero story where the good guys just give up.
good morning reddit
it must be surreal getting (you)'s in the double digits exclusively from ESLs that don't get sarcasm
your post made me genuinely crack up for what it's worth
Rebel Moon being shit doesn't make Dunc good.
Just imagine if Dune had sloooooow mooooooooooo every scene
dune is not even comparated with rebel moon, because dune is just another level
Another level of bad?
Is that male or female? It isn't a particularly attractive specimen of either.
it's latinX
>Has a female pedo character
Zach Snyder is based?
>Liking children is pedophilic
Internet brainrot.
she was a mother
based Doona does it again then. Maybe she specifically requested it
I struggle to find which one of those chinks is the woman lmao
This part was so cringe and awkward. Them sucking ass at acting made it seem like they were in love (or was that the intent because all the slowmo pan over only happened for lovers o.o). I was expecting the kid and her to kiss at one point.
Both the blond boy and the white farmer try to sacrifice themselves to rescue the female characters during a key moment where they are about to die.
There's no other reading other than the blond boy and the assassin lady relationship being romantic.
It could have been a motherly thing if there were more children in the mist, which she interacts with, showing that she cares for children and not just a child. But there isn't. It's just her and the blond boy.
Their relationship also mirror others that are of romantic nature;
It's even more cringe than the first one, FRICK!
Rebel Moon Part Two is Peak Cringe, I don't think you could get any cringier even if you assembled a hand-picked special task force to attempt it
2 doses of pure shit. I feel for ya.
at least it isn't a remake of crap from 100 years ago. I enjoy nu scifi slop.
It's a Star Wars ripoff.
There's literally nothing original about it.
>It's a Star Wars ripoff.
>There's literally nothing original about it.
Star Wars and Seven Samurai ripoff you mean, the whole small team defends helpless village and even some of the characters where straight off ripoffs from the Kurosawa movie like the lady who was really good with the red hot swords. What the frick where those anyway, the main character burns her hand when using one to kill an enemy soldier so they seem to be really hot to handle and seem to burn through metal quite easily, but still have visible blade ?
>What the frick where those anyway,
my guess is they're metal blades that somehow are superheated to cut thru metal. but who the frick knows?
what the frick is up with the guns? they shoot some kind of glowing thing that looks both like energy and a liquid substance.
Only reason I watched the first one was because she looked sexy, so Hack Snyder went and gave her an ugly boy cut. Lost my view right there lol.
Who's that bogged man on the poster?
They made her look like the Punisher character kek
Both look horrible tbqh.
Yes, it was way better than Dune 2.
never seen a movie where you feel nothing for any of the characters despite 70% of the movie is them just talking
Why?
so she could hold the swords, they show in the last couple scenes that the swords are very hot
snyder just didn't think of showing us that before the flash back
But she could've just worn gloves/gauntlets like the Imperium's soldier do, she didn't need to cut off her own fricking arms.
yeah i dunno, there were lots of stuff that didn't make sense
like that one ship that took off without closing the door and got a grenade thrown into it
it could be a metaphor for turning herself into someone that can only hurt and not hold a child in her arms anymore.
the fact is, Sneeder's use of metaphors and symbolism is clunky as frick because he's a bit of a simpleton who thinks he's very smart and deep.
but his fans are dumber than him and think he's a genius.
This was explicitly explained? What?
The arms carried the rage and emotion of her ancestors along with their bloodlust. They basically made her a supersoldier.
If she had just worn some gloves then she wouldn't have been any better as a fighter.
>made her a supersoldier.
she literally can't even kill 5 kripteya without being rekt tho.
she 1v1s the spider woman but then she goes limp in the most important battle.
they could have had her kill at least 20 of them, shown her bleeding and bruised on top of a pile of corpses, then the big dick kriptofricker captain enters the stage, she gets almost killed, the kid distracts the guy like in the movie and she kills him and then dies, like in the movie.
Sneeder can't even execute basic tropes properly.
>This 100lb small woman could only wreck like 5 elite soldiers single-handedly!
>Why wasn't she an anime waifu who killed like a thousand soldiers while laughing before being killed by arbitrary story reasons?
>elite soldiers
the same elite soldiers that get killed by the villager girl, the chink kid soldier and some other women and children?
every one of the frickers they collected in the first movie is supposed to be special otherwise what's the fricking point? just get 10 random mercenaries in the shitty alien bar they went to and call it a day.
>the same elite soldiers that get killed by the villager girl
Weird that a cannon wrecks soldiers using swords eh?
>the chink kid soldier
The guy who almost immediately jobbed when fighting just one of them?
>some other women and children
The group of peasants who all cowered and hid while Nemesis took on like 5 soldiers? Did you actually watch the film or did you just have it on in the background while shitposting?
did YOU actually watch the movie?
how many squads of kripteya entered the long house? hint: the answer is not 1.
the asiatic only fought 5 of them. all the others got wrecked by the village women and elderly somehow. don't ask me how, ask Sneeder.
What the frick are you talking about? That shit wasn't actually happening, she died against those five guys.
Snyder really is a gigantic moron.
Both mid.
the only sane answer. people's standards have been systematically lowered so they clap for these budget kubrick wannabees.
sheeesh
Director's Cut gonna upgrade it to a ~7/10 probably (fix what's fixable, resulting in unsatisfying franchise bait and(newly introduced) tasteless edginess becoming main criticisms).
Dunc however will forever be stuck in bland, subversive shit territory, less capable of subtlety even than Snyder's sensitive fratbro cheese.
COAL POWERED SPACE SHIP
TRANSFER ALL COALS TO SHIELD
40k has it and nobody complains.
>COAL POWERED SPACE SHIP
lol this movie had that shit too?
Let's use thousands of tons of coal, hundreds of men and high tech weapons to capture a few bushels of wheat on a planet a few million miles away.
do they have the brass speed dial that goes "ding!" and tells the stokers to put in coal faster?
Snyder filters again /tv are such plebeians
I refuse to watch until he releases the director cuts.
I feel like I'm in an episode of Sliders and this is their Star Wars. I can only pity them and wait for the slide.
>0 days without seething over Snyder
They failed. They announced that all of them would get Directors' Cuts. Why would I watch the inferior version?
Tbh yeah. Can an anon explain why anyone would put the effort in of watching the non directors cut?
>put the effort in of watching
Watching films shouldn't require effort. If it does, you should probably find a hobby you actually enjoy
Braindead freak.
I just don’t even want to watch it.
These studio execs are morons.
>Maybe since the watch numbers were X for part one it means they’ll be at least around that for part 2
If the numbers were high for part one and the response was that people thought it was shit, then it means no one will watch part two.
They should have released the directors cut to change the narrative.
Why does the bad guy's spaceship have a hand-cranked cannon?
>Trusting snyder after Army of the Dead
>alien planet (i.e. not Earth)
>time is measured in days
dipped it in the first 17 minutes
Wait, is this not Star Wars? I haven't seen it but I always just assumed it was Star Wars.
At least have some ok battle scenes with a "best value warhammer 40k" feel to it.
But yeah, this man only does 5h long slo-mo turds since the Dawn of the Dead remake and 300.
snyderjeets, we lost
you didn't get it chud
>politics-as-chorus-of-voices
kek this reminds me of when i had a troll Letterboxd account and would say shit like
>when viewed as an interstitial matrix, it becomes an undeniablly subversive (and subtle) metacommentary on post 9/11 immigration politics
about some fricking mike myers film or something similarly awful
it could be good if it weren't about the strong super soldier woman
shes unironically the best part of the movies
I am gonna watch these movies when the extended ones release. I fully expect them to be completely awful. However, I'm curious... what's so bad about them exactly?
dialogue sucks. its choppy, boring. feels like a two hour car commercial
If you can't figure it out on your own, you're hopeless.
What? I haven't seen it
So MAYBE an autistic 3 hour cut might fix that? Again, I fully expect it to be shit and stay shit
nha. its legit bad
Ask chatGPT to rewrite SW but with Luke being a woman and 1/3 of the second movie LITERALLY being wheat being harvested in slow motion
The list is enormous but can basically be boiled down to Zack Snyder indulging every stupid whim he has and no one stopping him along the way. The hideous "everything except a small circle in the center of the shot is out of focus" is a great place to start on a technical level. Narratively look no further than the base stakes of these two movies - a Star Destroyer is fighting a bunch of peasants in a village with three buildings over a fricking grain harvest despite them being a Star Destroyer and being capable of deploying hundreds of troops, a dozen tanks, a dozen starships, etc. And when they learn that every single major enemy of the Empire is in this three building village, they don't just nuke it from orbit. The story doesn't work for many reasons, but the stakes are one of the most glaring issues.
I don't want to keep writing but another glaring problem is both films also have the same sequences. For example, both have a scene of the Main Character looking at the camera to tell us her backstory while she's laying down to sleep with Han Duo. Another is having all the side characters telling everyone their backstory one after another while in the first movie, it was each of them being recruited one after another. It's just so fricking lazy.
Also the stupid voice over at the start doesn't set the opening scene, it recaps the previous movie. Not even Star Wars was this moronic. The dude can't even get the introductory information conveyed correctly.
>the stupid voice over at the start
This was really amateurish and a bad way to start the movie, but then it just got much much worse.
>Another is having all the side characters telling everyone their backstory one after another while in the first movie, it was each of them being recruited one after another. It's just so fricking lazy.
I want to add to that they everyone has the same backstory.
>a Star Destroyer is fighting a bunch of peasants in a village with three buildings over a fricking grain harvest despite them being a Star Destroyer
watch the first one and im watching the second and still don't understand this shit
you could've set it on a planet and had higher stakes instead of just "le nordic village in le space"
>Indians love it because of all the slowmo
His career is really because of all those sirs
A lot of the time I watch movies I don't think i'll enjoy in the background while I browse this shithole, but after trying that with Part 1 there's no fricking way. You would have to be moronic
Chuck Sneeder
Snyder should just commit suicide.
Why did they cast such an unattractive person? I'm not even sure that's female. wtf?
So was she gonna frick the little kid or what?
>Watching this shit after DUNE 2.
Watching this shit at all, sad.
If 40 minutes of wheat harvesting made it into the theatrical version, what exactly got cut from the extended?
Alien rape, apparently.
No, really.
I don't get how there'll add alien sex and rape when there was like one random alien dude in a fighter jet at the very end
>There has now been 2 entire movies about wheat
Id say this movie is entirely AI generated but I dont think we are there yet
>decide to have a chain-telling of all the random part 1 characters' backstories in the middle of it
but why
I unironically turned it off after that line "I was not scared of dying, I was scared of losing you," I give the actor credit for trying to make it work but Jesus Christ. I did get through it eventually but I didn't understand why several times in the movie, they repeated lines for emphasis (EMPHASIS). At least four times.
The Snyder cut will redeem it
>LAAT's from Star Wars
>Spider Tanks from Destiny
Ah yes
>destiny
*ghost in the shell
oh yea, my bad, they do actually look far more like GitS. Really should rewatch the older stuff.
Stormtroopers seem WAY more competent then these soldiers. It would be like if Obi Wan blew up the fricking star destroyer in the first movie when he snuck aboard, awful
Why is no one creating webms of this?
nothing worth webming
Theres only like 3 fight scenes, all are in the same exact battle. Im not joking when I say the majority of the shooting is just the bad guys missing DOZENS of farmers, and hitting nothing
i unironically like most of zacks other movies and thought these could actually be kino but they're shlock of the highest order. what the frick happened here?
Zack made them.
yeah but you can't say movies like 300 or watchmen or hell even man of steel and batman v superman are anywhere near this level of shit
It is literally dune done right frick off filtered normie
>several minutes dedicated to wheat harvesting
>absurd amount of slo mo and humming music
The man just can't help himself.
Army of the dead was insultingly bad. Almost felt deliberately shit.
Army of the Dead is a work of genius compared to RM part 2, it's stunningly bad
So, did the Empire care for those 30 sacks of grain, or not?
They need grain to feed the workers who are shoveling coal into the starship's engines.
Maybe they'll throw the grain into the engines as well so the ship smells like a bakery.
so you watched two shit back to back?
>Rebel Moon is le bad
Explain why this is the most popular movie in the world right now
because its bullshit
every other week the newest streamshit is the most popular shit in the world
it happens every single time a streaming platform releases anything they made.
they can make up statistics or just put a preview on their main page that starts automatically and count that as a view, or they can count any amount of watching, even a few seconds, as a full view.
there's a million ways to either skew the statistics or just fabricate them.
>most watched black and white movie with an albino african director released on a odd numbered sunday in history!
they don't have to they can just say the truth that it was indeed most streamed but that's hardly an achievement since any new shit with big enough shilling campaign manages this
when you spend $150m on producing this turd + another $150m shilling it and its measure of success is being the first when the 2nd is some cartoon that cost $3.50, you're not making reasonable investments
being the first is meaningless without the actual numbers and context ie every other week releases and their budgets for comparison
you didn't have enough shit, you wanted more?
Remember all those YT comments around when Army OTD came out which said something like "this is just what Snyder needs, original IP and creative freedom" - and this is what we get, the most hacky, derivative, uninspired cgi slowmo effects slop ever put to screen.
>it's a love letter to hacky, derivative, uninspired cgi slomo slop
snydergays we did it!
>Snyder makes a fun space opera that people enjoy
>gays start seething about how this is proof that their seething is justified
lmao have a snickers
>Snyder makes a fun space opera that people enjoy
An inability to comprehend people liking things that you don't is a characteristic sign of autism.
>thinking DUNC is good
be less obvious shill
I always knew that most filmmakers are just hacks.
It's the studios that have a hard time finding anyone competent enough to create good kinos
>interstellar empire
>spaceships fueled by coal, guess they just start shoveling faster when the captain wants to FTL
>reliant on like 8 sacks of grain from half a galaxy away
>while also operating literal resurrection machines
>top moron thinks he's cool after calling a chick who gives scars as a main career "scargiver"
Bravo Sneeder.
you think with your brain too much, think with your soul
>think with your soul
I tried that while watching Sucker Punch. Never again.
everything about this movie is bad
>it's gonna get good when the R rated cut of Rebel Moon 3 part II comes out it will be wroth it bro!
this is literally the permanent loss promise of future profits movie making
How are these movies apparently so bad? I was waiting for the extended versions to watch them but I don't think I'm even going to bother, they just get universally bad reviews from all sides.
Rebel Moon is so much better than DUNC it's not even funny
That's a (You) to chug on, moron, and I haven't seen both.
Nothing in Villeneuve’s Dune series is as good as Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon, which revives mythic understanding of both mankind’s history and fate. Rebel Moon shares the pop-culture wit of David Lynch’s 1984 Dune adaptation, but instead of surrealism, Snyder brought kinetic, erotic excitement that elevated the sci-fi genre. Its imagery is daring, immediate, and reverberant, Dune: Part 2 is the anti–Rebel Moon. Moviegoers who settle for Villeneuve’s monotonous formula surrender to film culture’s decline.
Kino review other than the praise for lynch dune (I hate anything dune)
Sorry Armond, you’re right about Villeneuve Dune being tedious and mediocre but Rebel Moon is awful.
>quotes moronic contrarian Black person because he is a contrarian
Last (You) homosexual, don't spend it in one place.
Zack Snyder is the King of Cinemaphile's weak spot.
He has such a homosexual hard on for Snyder that he simply cannot be honest about his movies.
I'm beginning to notice a pattern here
every snydershit without a miss is nothing less than a flawless revolutionary work of genius single handedly uplifting cinema into a higher astral plane and doubling the human cognitive capacities
y it so ugly ?
>you're a Somalian goat herder
>Nimitz class carrier pulls up to the shore of your village
>Some Amercian Admiral with two squads of marines demands that you surrender 200 goats to them to feed the crew.
>You mount the defense of your village with local warlords
>It will be a ground battle because goats are to valuable for the americans to bomb you.
This is what this movie wants you to accept as logical.
As I understand it, the evil empire wants to conquer this tiny world for their grain?
The empire has a grain problem for which they will deploy the overwhelmingly powerful imperial fleet?
kek it's exactly this, what a fricking ridiculous premise and yet there it is on screen
>they will deploy the overwhelmingly powerful imperial fleet
coal-powered imperial space fleet
Dune 2 was garbage.
>every single character delivers a motivational speech... twice over
>run time is ~2hours.. one hour of which was in slow motion
what was hack snyder thinking bros?
Why did anybody give Snyder another cent after the basic plot of Army of the Dead made no cohesive sense?
Worst part is that the imperials really did actually need that grain lmao
I refuse to watch any more movies about rebellions.
One big problem is that it's another retelling of Seven Samurai. Do you have any idea how many times that's been done? Magnificent Seven and it's various sequels and the remake from a few years back, A Bug's Life, Three Amigos, Wild Hogs, Battle Beyond the Stars... Hell Star Wars did it three times.
I don't think Snyder is a total hack, but he's definitely let his success and fanbase go to his head and it's caused him to become a weaker filmmaker as a result.
I honestly wish people would stop 'hate watching' things. There are so many shit movies and shit shows that end up successful mostly because people hate watch them just so they can have something to talk about.
yes, however you have to consider that this is on netflix, if you're already subbed it costs you nothing to watch it. maybe they put it on and then do something else. still counts for netflix.
it's not like they have to physically go to a theater and buy tickets.
I would like to see what would have happened if the Rebel Moon movies were released in theaters. probably the first would have done ok but not good because of the novelty factor, then the second would have had a massive drop after the first weekend.
>ITT: agriculturally-challenged youth filtered by wheat harvesting techniques
This kino is only for farming connoisseurs