>I asking if rabbits can be considered the “Prince of Thousand enemies” what about the other animals.
Are you stupid?
6 months ago
Anonymous
No other can be considered because it's just a mythological term explaining why rabbits are great and persecuted. It's not a word of power bestowed upon rabbit kind.
6 months ago
Anonymous
ignore that guy
Badgers are the prince of 100 enemies
Cats are the prince of 10,000 enemies
Dogs are the prince of Nothing by R Scott Bakker
Whales are the prince of the enemies of the land and Eagles are the prince of enemies of the sea
there are a couple dozen more but I've forgotten most of them
pretty sure racoons or maybe weasels are the Enemies of a thousand Princes
I was referring to the many dog breeds, all with different purposes. I know "Prince of a thousand jobs" is kinda lame, but it's all I could come up with.
Fox - The Prince of the first murder >Since in the story they pretty much are
Hawk (and pretty much any flying bird) - The Prince of the hills beyond >They would probably use familiar concepts as hills to explain the sky and the clouds. Plus seeing a airplane come over the clouds must make them go wild
dog - The Prince with wild hunt >A bit of a copout since writing "prince of good nose" is kinda lame. Dogs would also be one of the worst beasts rabbits would have to deal with that are relatively rare next to bears
Stoat - The Prince with many tricks
They would take the role of the wolf in human mythos and be seen as the aspect of trickery since they actively chase rabbits down their burrows
Cat - The prince never seen or
Dunno about this one, cats rarely eat rabbits but they do love to hunt them with great success.
Cow - The prince too large to eat or the prince of four ears >From a glance they would neither know that cows are all female or that people eat them. They would be one of the few non enemies since they show them unafraid by them in the movie.
Deer - Prince of grand ears >Same as above, they wouldn't know what horns are so they would just assume they have two ears. Deer would have ones beating even the stoutest rabbit
Mice, Rats and pretty much any competing small herbivore wouldn't be princes, instead they would be explained as rabbits that was punished for strayed from the path or if they have to be they would be the prince of greed. Something to denote a vile competitor.
Usually from infection.
Remember: if you EVER get bit by a cat hard enough to break skin, or scratched by a feral cat, see a heathcare professional immediately. Sepsis is no joke.
They don't usually play with it for sadistic reasons, they do it because cats kill by either snapping the spinal cord or through a strangulation bite, both lf white are easy to fake by playing dead. So, "playing" gives a chance to see if their prey is really dead or not.
As for the half-dead, a lot of that is urbanites not understanding that cats have a gard time gauging hunger, and feeding their hecking chonkers while still letting them out.
So for my input on a Watership Down-style title... Prince of a Thousand Kills.
Don’t cats also have a habit of killing a little surplus of food because they tend to live in colonies where they share the extra food with the slightly more infirm cats like pregnant queens? That’s why they leave little presents.
Humans would probably seem the most evil/blasphemous of all, because unlike any other animal they make themselves the masters of other animals via domestication. It's one thing for an animal to kill rabbits (or even other animals in general) since they all do, but the humans catch and keep rabbits and animals and control them.
None but Frith could claim dominion over any or all, yet the humans do so in blasphemy.
>But by the rabbit faith around Frith?
That humans have dominion over the world, and act with irresistible power for unfathomable reasons. Besides most of the story being about reactions to various human activities, most animals large enough to bother eating are way more afraid of humans than anything else.
They don’t all speak the same language. That’s why the seagull has such a heavy accent. His native tongue is seagullese and he’s struggling to speak rabbitish so he can communicate with the stupid bunnies.
OP is fundamentally misunderstanding because he’s stupid. The title doesn’t mean his domain is “a thousand enemies that he rules over.” It just means he is a price that has a thousand enemies, which is metaphor for being eternally persecuted.
>Clearly you didn’t know that it’s not a literal princedom.
This is what I am asking for you dense nitwit.
Prince With A Thousand Bodyguards —Porcupine
Prince Of The Thousand-League Kingdom —Albatross
Prince Who Watched The Dinosaurs Die —Crocodile
I am asking what titles would the other animals have considering their traits and places. The rabbit has a "Thousand Enemies" because it is a prey animal.
There were also some Kings as well that were appointed as rulers of realms by Frith like the King of Yesterday and the King of Tomorrow. Plus there were animal kingdoms that had rulers but the Prince title was presumably just the first of their kind created by Lord Frith.
El-ahrairah just got the additional nickname Prince of a Thousand Enemies because his disrespect to Lord Frith resulted in the other animals getting different traits to distinguish themselves with a lot of them being given the task of weeding out the rabbit population.
The Prince of Cats, for instance, might have a nickname that other cats call him by but the mythology is rabbit centered so the author never went into that.
>El-ahrairah
The name is a combination/corruption of three separate words in the rabbit language: >"Elil" meaning "enemy", i.e. a predator, or more broadly, anything that was a danger to rabbits. >"Hrair" which is translated as "a thousand" with the implication of "countless". The literal meaning is "any number bigger than 4" because that's as far as rabbits can count. That's how the rabbit Fiver got his name, "Hrair-roo", because he was the runt of a large litter and had more siblings than his parents could count. >"Rah", which is a title of nobility given to the largest and strongest rabbit in the warren, the Chief Rabbit. Hazel earned the title "Hazel-rah" when he led the rabbits who escaped from the doomed warren to a new one on Watership Down.
So, either "Prince of a Thousand Enemies" or "Prince with a Thousand Enemies" is a decent translation.
No taste for it. >Sun is just a generic smiling face with lashes >"all the animals the same" none of the animals are the same
Those rabbit designs feel a bit too anime-y too.
Judging by the excerpts I can find, it looks like it's aiming to be the most faithful adaptation so far. It seems to have plenty of details that weren't included in previous adaptations. I appreciate that.
Nothing, El-ahrairah has that title to show the rabbits think of themselves as so awesome they need a million and one handicaps to keep them from taking over the world. The other animals aren't "prince" of anything, they just wish they could be as awesome as rabbits, who maintain a position of superiority even as everything wants to kill them.
>The other animals aren't "prince" of anything, they just wish they could be as awesome as rabbits, who maintain a position of superiority even as everything wants to kill them.
I’m sure having to be careful walking outside is having a position of superiority.
I liked the part where Woundwort finds out Bigwig isn't the chief of their warren.
And in the end, Hazel truly embodies the speed and cunning of El-Ahrairah.
A big part of why that worked is that Woundwart's worldview was so warped that he literally couldn't conceive of a situation where Bigwig wasn't the Chief by virtue of being the biggest. The idea that you could be loyal to someone for reasons besides physical strength were entirely alien to him.
We don’t even get to see how mindfricked Woundwort would be if somebody told him that the real chief is the polite crippled rabbit with the limp that he thought was an expendable lackey.
He probably thought they were hiding a secret giant bunny even stronger than Bigwig somewhere.
Someone explain to my why the rabbit myths have so many human concepts like courtroom.
Richard Adams was writing a fairy tale, not a nature documentary.
He did draw a lot from that one nonfiction book, though.
What book?
The Private Life of the Rabbit. It was apparently a huge inspiration for him.
The frick is wrong with your link?
So many people forget that.
I blame middle ages bestiaries.
It makes sense for crows, not for rabbits.
Rabbits don't consider anyone but rabbits people so none.
It’s for us not them stupid.
But what we see is unique rabbit mythology. Most likely the other animals have no concept of "prince of X"
I asking if rabbits can be considered the “Prince of Thousand enemies” what about the other animals. I am not asking what the rabbits named them.
Nothing, because only rabbits consider themselves "prince of thousand enemies". Why would other animals have a say in rabbit mythology?
You do understand what we see did not happen, right? It's literally just made up by the rabbits to explain their reality.
>I asking if rabbits can be considered the “Prince of Thousand enemies” what about the other animals.
Are you stupid?
No other can be considered because it's just a mythological term explaining why rabbits are great and persecuted. It's not a word of power bestowed upon rabbit kind.
ignore that guy
Badgers are the prince of 100 enemies
Cats are the prince of 10,000 enemies
Dogs are the prince of Nothing by R Scott Bakker
Whales are the prince of the enemies of the land and Eagles are the prince of enemies of the sea
there are a couple dozen more but I've forgotten most of them
pretty sure racoons or maybe weasels are the Enemies of a thousand Princes
El-ahrairah is the title given to the rabbits' culture hero specifically; it's not a term for all rabbits.
That’s what turned your species into prey,
El-ahrairah.
They are able to speak with other animals though, so it's not so one-sided as if, like with humans, they could only commune among themselves
>Rabbits consider rabbits people
Prince With A Thousand Bodyguards —Porcupine
Prince Of The Thousand-League Kingdom —Albatross
Prince Who Watched The Dinosaurs Die —Crocodile
Prince with a Crown Around His Neck - Dog
Prince of Pain - Cat
>Prince with a Crown Around His Neck - Dog
>Prince of Pain - Cat
Nah.
Prince of a thousand jobs -Dog
Princess of nimble feet - Cat
>Prince of a thousand jobs
that's great
I was referring to the many dog breeds, all with different purposes. I know "Prince of a thousand jobs" is kinda lame, but it's all I could come up with.
Prince of a thousand heckin good bois
Heh
Fox - The Prince of the first murder
>Since in the story they pretty much are
Hawk (and pretty much any flying bird) - The Prince of the hills beyond
>They would probably use familiar concepts as hills to explain the sky and the clouds. Plus seeing a airplane come over the clouds must make them go wild
dog - The Prince with wild hunt
>A bit of a copout since writing "prince of good nose" is kinda lame. Dogs would also be one of the worst beasts rabbits would have to deal with that are relatively rare next to bears
Stoat - The Prince with many tricks
They would take the role of the wolf in human mythos and be seen as the aspect of trickery since they actively chase rabbits down their burrows
Cat - The prince never seen or
Dunno about this one, cats rarely eat rabbits but they do love to hunt them with great success.
Cow - The prince too large to eat or the prince of four ears
>From a glance they would neither know that cows are all female or that people eat them. They would be one of the few non enemies since they show them unafraid by them in the movie.
Deer - Prince of grand ears
>Same as above, they wouldn't know what horns are so they would just assume they have two ears. Deer would have ones beating even the stoutest rabbit
Mice, Rats and pretty much any competing small herbivore wouldn't be princes, instead they would be explained as rabbits that was punished for strayed from the path or if they have to be they would be the prince of greed. Something to denote a vile competitor.
Wait, I thought the story of El-ahrairah was true.
In the end of the book, the spirit rabbit had starlight ears, which is what El-ahrairah has.
I think it's a story withing a story situation. Either way it's very much from the eyes of a rabbit.
I guess so.
Watership down is all over the place when it comes to worldbuilding. Richard kinda didn't give a shit it seems.
Imagine being mauled to death by a bear and then God telling you it happened because the First rabbit was an butthole.
Christianity tells us that about bad shit that happens to us all the time. That’s just original sin.
Very cool, you’re very creative
I like these ideas
Dogs have probably forgotten their Prince since they can't even speak the same language as rabbits anymore.
How? It's their prince, not the rabbits.
What need do dogs have of a Prince of Dogs when Man exists?
Fair point, but if rabbits have religion, so should dogs.
They could always have a syncretic deal going on where Man and Frith are fused into one being and dogs were created to be the agents of his will.
Very creative
Why pain?
Housecats kill for fun. They play with their prey before leaving them to die half-eaten.
Usually from infection.
Remember: if you EVER get bit by a cat hard enough to break skin, or scratched by a feral cat, see a heathcare professional immediately. Sepsis is no joke.
They don't usually play with it for sadistic reasons, they do it because cats kill by either snapping the spinal cord or through a strangulation bite, both lf white are easy to fake by playing dead. So, "playing" gives a chance to see if their prey is really dead or not.
As for the half-dead, a lot of that is urbanites not understanding that cats have a gard time gauging hunger, and feeding their hecking chonkers while still letting them out.
So for my input on a Watership Down-style title... Prince of a Thousand Kills.
*both of which
am drunk sorry
Don’t cats also have a habit of killing a little surplus of food because they tend to live in colonies where they share the extra food with the slightly more infirm cats like pregnant queens? That’s why they leave little presents.
What would the human prince be?
Prince of earthmovers, Prince of a thousand tools, Prince of Fire, Prince of cinder
Prince of Arrogance, the animal that imagines himself apart from/above animals
The Beast
The "human prince" that parallels El-ahrairah would be a human in human legends, regarded as a hero of humans. So something along the lines of
.
The Prince of the Beast.
Why beast?
Satan
The Destroyer, that creature of which all others ultimately fear.
Humans would probably seem the most evil/blasphemous of all, because unlike any other animal they make themselves the masters of other animals via domestication. It's one thing for an animal to kill rabbits (or even other animals in general) since they all do, but the humans catch and keep rabbits and animals and control them.
None but Frith could claim dominion over any or all, yet the humans do so in blasphemy.
humans are in fact given dominion over all plants and animals
By their human belief. But by the rabbit faith around Frith?
>But by the rabbit faith around Frith?
That humans have dominion over the world, and act with irresistible power for unfathomable reasons. Besides most of the story being about reactions to various human activities, most animals large enough to bother eating are way more afraid of humans than anything else.
We are no prince.
We are king.
Frith is king, if human is the next mightiest then he wouldn't be prince of anything simply just *the* Prince, to *the* King
Prince of wieners - Horse
No
Prince of the thousand - Mice
Prince of the many webs - Spider
Prince with bright colors - Peawiener
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The prince with a shield - Turtle
The prince of the fields -deer/horse
Animals all speak the same language, they probably all have similar religions centered on Frith
They don’t all speak the same language. That’s why the seagull has such a heavy accent. His native tongue is seagullese and he’s struggling to speak rabbitish so he can communicate with the stupid bunnies.
OP is fundamentally misunderstanding because he’s stupid. The title doesn’t mean his domain is “a thousand enemies that he rules over.” It just means he is a price that has a thousand enemies, which is metaphor for being eternally persecuted.
I know it's a title, Christ.
You’re asking what the other “domains” are. Clearly you didn’t know that it’s not a literal princedom.
>Clearly you didn’t know that it’s not a literal princedom.
This is what I am asking for you dense nitwit.
I am asking what titles would the other animals have considering their traits and places. The rabbit has a "Thousand Enemies" because it is a prey animal.
There were also some Kings as well that were appointed as rulers of realms by Frith like the King of Yesterday and the King of Tomorrow. Plus there were animal kingdoms that had rulers but the Prince title was presumably just the first of their kind created by Lord Frith.
El-ahrairah just got the additional nickname Prince of a Thousand Enemies because his disrespect to Lord Frith resulted in the other animals getting different traits to distinguish themselves with a lot of them being given the task of weeding out the rabbit population.
The Prince of Cats, for instance, might have a nickname that other cats call him by but the mythology is rabbit centered so the author never went into that.
I think I’m having some kind of Mandela effect because I could have sworn it was Prince WITH a Thousand Enemies.
It's with
>El-ahrairah
The name is a combination/corruption of three separate words in the rabbit language:
>"Elil" meaning "enemy", i.e. a predator, or more broadly, anything that was a danger to rabbits.
>"Hrair" which is translated as "a thousand" with the implication of "countless". The literal meaning is "any number bigger than 4" because that's as far as rabbits can count. That's how the rabbit Fiver got his name, "Hrair-roo", because he was the runt of a large litter and had more siblings than his parents could count.
>"Rah", which is a title of nobility given to the largest and strongest rabbit in the warren, the Chief Rabbit. Hazel earned the title "Hazel-rah" when he led the rabbits who escaped from the doomed warren to a new one on Watership Down.
So, either "Prince of a Thousand Enemies" or "Prince with a Thousand Enemies" is a decent translation.
This movie made me afraid of rabbits
Oh gee.
It’s a cartoon
this made me appreciate rabbits so much I developed a rabbit fetish
OP that's like asking if god made eve out of adams ribs then what bodypart did he make the other animal counterparts from?
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Man - The Prince to inherit the Stars.
The first extraterrestrial - The Demon that came from the Stars
Cool as frick
Everyone hates me. does that mean i would be a rabbit?
Does everyone want to kill and eat you?
If so, then yes.
bump, I like cool titles
Me too
I fricked a girl who was wearing this shirt once. It was the last good sex I had.
Was she the "Weird art girl"?
Okay
Her art is amazing.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/731328540/prince-with-a-thousand-enemies-luster
Prince for a thousand white women - dog
STUPID Cinemaphile
YOU GOT NO MATES!
No duh
Kangaroo is the prince of fists
Truth
Any of you buy the graphic novel that came out recently?
No taste for it.
>Sun is just a generic smiling face with lashes
>"all the animals the same" none of the animals are the same
Those rabbit designs feel a bit too anime-y too.
It can get a bit confusing. Especially since it includes Hawkbit, Acorn and Buckthorn (though Speedwell is still forgotten)
I think the sun is cute
k
Judging by the excerpts I can find, it looks like it's aiming to be the most faithful adaptation so far. It seems to have plenty of details that weren't included in previous adaptations. I appreciate that.
Isn't Frith male?
the female bunnies are mine!
Oh shit, I didn't know that exists. Thanks for the tip, I've gotta go look it up.
Nothing, El-ahrairah has that title to show the rabbits think of themselves as so awesome they need a million and one handicaps to keep them from taking over the world. The other animals aren't "prince" of anything, they just wish they could be as awesome as rabbits, who maintain a position of superiority even as everything wants to kill them.
>The other animals aren't "prince" of anything, they just wish they could be as awesome as rabbits, who maintain a position of superiority even as everything wants to kill them.
I’m sure having to be careful walking outside is having a position of superiority.
People think shitposting anonymously online is a position of superiority. As long as there's a victory condition you're the king of the world.
What victory? Being the sole reason predators exist? Being able to live for 3 years? Have literally everything try to kill you?
Pokémon company van Gogh museum event style lopunny crossover when?
What
Seems to be an anon who's binged on AI image generation and now communicates only in prompts.
Ok
I liked the part where Woundwort finds out Bigwig isn't the chief of their warren.
And in the end, Hazel truly embodies the speed and cunning of El-Ahrairah.
A big part of why that worked is that Woundwart's worldview was so warped that he literally couldn't conceive of a situation where Bigwig wasn't the Chief by virtue of being the biggest. The idea that you could be loyal to someone for reasons besides physical strength were entirely alien to him.
We don’t even get to see how mindfricked Woundwort would be if somebody told him that the real chief is the polite crippled rabbit with the limp that he thought was an expendable lackey.
He probably thought they were hiding a secret giant bunny even stronger than Bigwig somewhere.
>Crows
>Princes of the underworld/afterlife