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If Gunn doesn't get the ball rolling with Superman Legacy then it's truly over.
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Imagine if Disney bought DCcomics as well.
Nettflix is making way more profit than Disney right now, it would or at least should be them to buy it.
is there not a law against that? something to avoid monopolies
Would it? That's only for things that have large market share, given manga sells better they can argue that its not a monopoly to buy DC comics, not to mention Indie comics are doing well in sales.
I dont think manga would count. It's about not having a monopoly in the us industry. Manga isnt us. And I doubt you could argue marvel+dec combined wouldn't be a monopoly because of indie.
That law was revealed as the fraud that it is when everyone allowed Microsoft to buy Activision as if they were the little guys.
What is the actual crime that was committed there? Be specific.
Activision is the biggest videogame company in the world. By taking it out of the field you unbalance the field for every other company. That is how monopolies are built.
It's not at all how monopolies are built. There are still tons and tons of other video game companies.
>Activision is the biggest videogame company in the world
If you go by number of acquisitions, it is
>Activision is the biggest videogame company in the world.
There are those bots
talked about.
No, they aren't, that's just Cunningham's Law in action with three different anons taking the piss out of a silly detail
Six Flags just bought out Knotts Berry Farm.
It's not that Six Flags bought Cedar Fair, but the two are merging. Like when Sirius merged with XM.
how can such a massive company make such goofy cheap looking commercials
Barely. If the FTC didn't block Disney from buying FOX or stop Diamond or hasn't bothered to break-up Amazon then it's doubtful they'll bother challenging Disney owning DC Comics. The only reason Apple is even being challenged on their app store is because of Epic's lawsuit, and the only reason Apple is being forced to get rid of their exclusive chargers is because of European regulation.
KEK. If they actually enforced that shit Google/Alphabet would have been broken up by now.
Google never needed to actually buy anything though, they slowly keikaku'd their monopoly over decades. It's easy to tell a company "no" when they want to buy another, telling them "please break yourself up sir thank you" is another matter.
>telling them "please break yourself up sir thank you" is another matter.
Microsoft would like a word.
It's comic books.
Bayer/Monsanto was a much bigger problem
Monsanto should just be dismantled for the betterment of humanity honestly.
You want to know something funny about Monsano? They literally pay people to shill on Reddit and try to damage control anytime someone talks about GMOs.
I'm dead serious.
(inb4 "go back," I wanted to use that site to shill an indie game I was working on, then got banned from arguing against morons too much around two months later. Not my home, not going there again).
Monsanto has actually shills that go around and "search out topics of interest" and try to start scripted arguments with literally anyone there, even if it's nonsensical to the existing chat. It doesn't matter if it's a serious discussion on some article front page, or some teenager saying he's not sure if GMOs should be copyrighted in some deeply-buried conversation on some Call of Duty forum, there will be some jackass whose entire job is to be a homosexual-ass shill and try to recite their script towards you.
I've noticed this about c*vid v*ccines on Cinemaphile too, if you say anything about them you get actual bots (like chat-GPT bots) arguing with you, on any board. If you post a graph in a pic they can't read it and just start making shit up. I experienced it, it was a bit surreal. Dunno if they're still up so I censored to avoid the thread getting derailed.
I don't know if those (actual) bots ever moved off of /misc/ or not.
America doesn't have laws that apply to corporations.
Depends how you cut it.
If it's just comic books, yes, sort of, but the idea that a monopoly on comic books which have been so samey across the two publishers for so many years would harm consumers is kind of a reach. If you don't know that Batman and Spider-Man are in different universes now, and that stops being true because one publisher buys out the other, does it matter to you buying a comic book after the merger? How does that affect your consumer rights? Kind of not important at all in fact. Like think about the publishers and catalogs that have been absorbed by Marvel/DC over the years - Fawcett, Charlton, Malibu, CrossGen, EC, Quality, Wildstorm - has the loss of any of those publishers really harmed the consumer?
You could argue that it's harmed the market as a whole, but there's a much more compelling argument that other market forces - the shift to Direct in the late 80s, the general decline of print sales to name but two - have been to blame for the managed decline of sales since 1993 despite temporary resurgences. If the MCU and Dark Knight trilogy couldn't revive sales this past decade then you've got to look not at how popular the characters are but how popular the medium is, and at that point any argument that the plurality of publishers matters - or that their output is significantly different as-is - falls down. An inquiry formally saying "these two publishers basically make the same old shit year in year out and that's why they're failing and buying each other up on a fool's errand, let them waste their money because it doesn't matter" would absolutely be the worst outcome, but probably the most likely.
If you make the monopoly argument about publishing as a whole, no, because it's just two relatively small publishing houses merging. It's not like the Penguin Random House thing a few years back, or the Discovery merger more recently. They simply don't control enough of publishing as a whole to matter.
Our Black person-tier government did frick all to stop Disney buying out their competitor while Marvel nu-males lapped up mouse nuts.
Yes, but it turns out the people checking are very affordable.
You can bet the FTC would step in if Disney tried to buy all of Warner Brothers, but I doubt anyone would even blink if they just made a move for DC. If you look at the court history regarding Diamond's very real monopoly the response was basically "no one cares about comics that much lol".
Besides, it's questionable how much real power Marvel and DC have as publishers in the current market. They do still dominate comic book stores, but how much of the direct market makes up the total market?
Even if they could afford it. Disney only bought companies that were themselves profitable so they could fudge the books and become profitable by proxy. DC hasn't been profitable in a while.
Disney is in a better position despite its recent flops.
You are conceptually misunderstanding what this website is doing.
It very clearly states that the stock is undervalue and offers a BUY recommendation.
Also, you're an idiot.
Disney didn't even buy Marvel Comics - why would they buy DC Comics and why would DISCO sell off a small slice of the entire business, including one which is profitable and generates more income than it spends?
DC and Marble both have more than 50 to 60% of the domestic market. The justice department has disallowed mergers for less than that.
If you are going to try to talk intelligently when you don't understand the actual concepts, at least read something first.
>It very clearly states that the stock is undervalue and offers a BUY recommendation.
Go on. Buy.
It would be Comcast.
Probably. They’re the most successful of out of all the others.
They have other sources of income besides content. Most of their money comes from internet and cable, so that's a pretty steady revenue source, and they can lose money on Peawiener without panicking. Paramount's streaming service for example is in a much worse position because they don't have internet or theme parks to boost their bottom line.
Good idea! They could combine their massive debts to be the most bankrupt company in history
why? so they can dumb down dc comics?
Disney is in no position to make any major acquisitions right now, especially considering they're also going down the shitter right now because they expanded to big too quickly.
Not sure why think Disney is in any better standing currently.
I would assume it would be either Amazon or Universal.
Amazon especially has interest in DC Comics. They bought Abrams & Reeves Batman cartoon and the Merry Little Batman movie.
>Merry Little Batman movie.
Already forgotten
>They bought Abrams & Reeves Batman
It's a shitty cheap cartoon. You're not going to like it. Watch when it comes out.
NBC-Universal will buy Warner Bros Discovery out.
Not happening (they own too much), it's far more likely that they're buying Sony's film division however to to the film rights to Spider-Man and Venom back like how they bought 20th Century just to buy the film rights to X-Men, Daredevil and Deadpool and the 35MM masters to the original Star Wars trilogy.
Looney Tunes says hi.
No, all or nothing, remember what happened to Compile.
Disney buying SquareEnix or Capcom (but not both) says hi.
Activision Blizzard was going to get bought out by Tencent, Microsoft NEEDED to save them from the CCP.
Nintendo is much larger.
>Activision Blizzard was going to get bought out by Tencent
Source on that?
They were EXTREMELY close to China to the point that Tencent was going to buy them out, Microsoft saw this and had to save them from the CCP.
Microsoft did the right thing.
That's not a source. You need to provide a credible article that says Tencent was planning on buying them.
Yes it is.
The richest lesbian in the world works in porn, plus Cinemaphile is ran by the guy who founded 2Chan/5Chan since Moot left.
>Yes it is.
That video doesn't say anything about a buyout. So no.
Sony is not selling Sony Pictures.
Yes they are as Sony is moving their focus back to Japan, they're already moving PlayStation back to Japan and are selling the western studios and IPs at piecemeal.
>Sony is moving their focus back to Japan,
Sony Group is already in Japan
>they're already moving PlayStation back to Japan
God, I wish. The interm chairman of SIE is Japanese, but that's it for now
>selling the western studios and IPs at piecemeal.
KEK
https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/27/23893389/sony-playstation-jim-ryan-ceo-steps-down
Yea. That doesn't mention SIE is going back to Japan or that they're selling the western half of PlayStation Studios. SIE going back to Japan could happen, but as of now, it hasn't.
It's moving back in late March when Jim leaves.
I would like that. However, I don't see it happening. Not until after the interm chairman chooses a successor.
>Disney is looking to buy Sony's film department
Source? Sony's not selling. Especially since they make loads of Spiderman and aren't bleeding money via a film/tv subscription service.
That doesn’t mean they’re selling IP, this is fanboy pipe dreams that Spider-Man will ever go back to Disney
>Spider-Man will ever go back to Disney
Why the frick would anyone want that?
Yes they are, they see it as bloat.
Spider-Man is a billion dollar property that is popular all around the world. Literally THE most popular superhero on the planet. They’d be stupid to sell the rights back.
One Piece makes more money, plus it's in Sony's contract, if the film department gets sold off Spider-Man and other Marvel IPs are required to be given back to Disney.
And Disney is looking to buy Sony's film department just to get Spider-Man and Venom back.
>Not even Barbie could save them
Say it with me kids:
Go broke, get woke, ultimately CROAK
Go back to x.com, homosexual
don't feed the troll
Nu-twitter is even more racist, sexist and homophobic than Cinemaphile.. such chuddiness
you wouldn't think a site run by a 60 year old californian lesbian could get that bad
african too
Lesbians are spiteful, and unstable, dude.
but she's the richest lesbian in the world
Literal fricking moron
>inb4 uhhhuhhh signed da post
Go back to r*ddit you mouthbreathing homosexual
Barbie was a massive fricking success lmao.
people literally just want decent movies, how shocking
NTA but what part of "Not even Barbie could save them" you didn't understand?
Also Barbie went woke because Warner are beyond broke.
They've been shitting the bed repeatedly for a long time now.
Streaming was never fricking profitable. Had they continued to license their content out to Netflix and make bank that way, they would’ve been fine. But no, they had to throw their hat in the ring and waste billions doing it.
The day DC dies, the day order is restored.
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Frick WB and frick DC.
A lot of businesses are suffering right now.
Huh, looks like their new business direction didn't work out too well.
The nerd stuff is actually doing very well, especially when you consider the absurd margins of of MtG. This is execs minmaxing their bonuses for the quarterly reports - massive profits helps them, but if you can combine that with "streamlining" outgoings by sacking everyone that looks even better come bonus time. Destroys the company in the long term, of course, but why care? Always another C-suite waiting for your expertise
>Disney and WB both celebrate their 100th anniversaries this year
>Everything goes as disastrously as possible for both of them
>Disney could be sold to Apple while WB might just go fricking bankrupt entirely
The schadenfreude is wonderful
>Disney could be sold to Apple
I don't get this long-running theory that Apple is itching to buy Disney. It'd be the stupidest merger since AOL-TimeWarner.
This has been wishful thinking by top Disney people for over a decade. It really doesn't make sense for Apple to do this.
Yeah, but if you're working for Hasbro and you have talent and options, it's really not a bad time to start looking for them.
Take it and your lack of means of production to /misc/, spanky.
Excactly. That took decades of littigation on multiple continents.
Could work if Apple manage to sell the Theme Parks to someone else, it would pay the debts and they wouldn't have to deal with something they know jackshit about.
The problem is who the frick is big enough and knows about this kind of business to buy it?
Would make no sense. Nobody is going to buy the parks without the names and specifically the IP behind it.
Apple is the most profitable company in the world, they’re not going to buy Disney’s mess. I could believe them buying something like A24.
Universal could buy and rebrand them to expand.
Even if Apple wanted to buy a big studio, it makes way more sense to grab something like Paramount instead of something that costs ten times as much like Disney. And buying Paramount still seems outside their wheelhouse.
Apple's only popular movie as a studio is popular for being one of the best of the 21st century, why would they throw that away and associate with Disney
I’d just buy their assets.
Just let these companies die. They have nothing to offer the world anyway.
More Batman? More Batman.
Unironically yes. Going all in on Batman could save them. He is second to Spider-Man in terms of global popularity.
>More Batman.
He is the only one who keeps the company running, practically Wonder Woman is Batman's chair, Superman is the batman's desk, Cyborg is Batman's computer and Green Lantern is Batman's desk lamp.
"More Batman" didn't help The Flash
Flash had bigger problems. Problems too big for batman.
Batman has been dead for quite sometime. He isn’t helping anything anymore. No one cares.
All that ESG money drying up coupled with generally bad product.
Okay, can they release that Coyote v. Acme movie before they do though?
If they're about to bankrupt they can't afford that kind of investment
If they’re about to go bankrupt, what do they have to lose?
Their golden parachute
Hi guys, what's going on in this thread?
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WB and DC Comics suck.
But I thought Zaslav was secretly a 4D chess master who was going to save his media company by not producing any media!
I can't believe Discovery is making AOL and AT&T seem like excellent models of leadership by comparison
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WB and Disney have too many properties, we must be finding way to make them die faster
I think Comcast buying DC would actually be better, because Comcast is in a position where DC could actually try some stuff and maybe lose money in the short term in order to try and get people to start reading comics again. Warner Brothers can't be frivolously losing money right now.
Frick the comics. The IPs are what matters. DC has Batman. And Batman’s money.
I just want comics to matter again
They never will.
Well I want them to
Read manga
Comics cost too much money for what you get in them, the reason that Manga is selling is basically because they are Japanese Graphic novels, there's much more in a single book for its cost than there is in a comic. Especially since comics raised their production costs by replacing newsprint with the more expensive shinier magazine paper
I know, the price needs to come down. They also need to be sold outside of comic shops, and one of the big two needs to make things happen, but their parent companies wouldn't like for them to rock the boat and try new things and potentially lose money for a while.
Also, they’re much nicer to hold and are very portable. Comic trades are too damn big and are a pain to carry around with you.
Batman is flopping. No one really gives a frick about him anymore.
>comics
>matter
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
WBD is 50 billion in debt. The interest on their debt grows quicker than their revenue. Plus, they have a bunch of failed projects thanks to Gunn telling people that the movies DC will release should be ignored.
I think people would've ignored Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 regardless.
Yes I know the first Aquaman was very successful but that was a very different time.
The fact that the MCU is failing pretty much shows that Gunn had nothing to do with the DC stuff bombing. Superhero movies are over.
I wouldn't say they're totally over but I hope that the Gunn version of the DCU has a very different flavor, and I hope all the movies and shows feel different from each other. The fact that almost every Marvel movie feels exactly the same really works against it when they pump out as much content as they have been.
They’re repeating the same mistake that the MCU did with their movies and shows. General audiences are not gonna want to keep up with every movie AND show just to understand everything.
Well I hope that's not what they do. Yes, make it a shared universe and that's cool, but I hope they tell a lot of separate stories with different tones. When he said the Green Lantern thing is going to be like True Detective, I hope that's true. You can have a shared universe without making everything feel like Marvel Movie #41
They were also going to make ALL animation and games part of Gunn’s DCU, complete with the actors reprising their roles. Pretty sure they walked back on that. Good thing, too.
Not all animation and games, but yes, some cartoons and games with take place within the same universe.
>Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2
They flopped because of no marketing. I wouldn't even known that shit existed if it wasn't for me wasting my time in those abysmal capeshit circles online.
>They flopped because of no marketing.
120% concentrated copium
They had marketing, dude. I see ads for Aquaman 2 on YouTube all the time.
>Youtube
>Where adblock is common
LOL
This entire DCEU bullshit is a psyop.
YouTube cracked down on that. You literally can’t use it without disabling your ad blocker.
Yet, I'm still using it with zero ads. Maybe you just suck.
>Warner and Disney dying together
DC needs to drop the edgy bullshit and restrict themselves to kid content. Adults working on these shitty IPs have zero self control and need hard mandates and restrictions. Go back to lighthearted works, all this shockvalue is fricking stupid.
For the comics? Nobody reads those.
Because they're ass full of shitty ass shock value and dumbass writers who keep inserting their own fanfiction. There's no more dark stories that can be done, time to go back to being simple. At least it won't make you feel like shit when reading it.
The biggest mistake was focusing on a fricking dog.
You forgot about Lego Batman?
Comics are still seen as nerd crap by normies. The quality of storytelling doesn’t matter when it continues to have that perception.
Or focus on their non-superhero IPs. Maybe take some of their DC IPs and scrub all the superhero shit from it.
>DC needs to drop the edgy bullshit
What edgy bullshit? DC Comics hasn’t been edgy and cool since the New 52. Every single DC comic has been gay and Woke.
>What edgy bullshit?
I'm so sick of these dumbass shills defending this dying industry.
There is no edgy bullshit anymore. That was mostly in the 2000s for both companies.
Fricking liar.
You mean recession? We’ve had that back in the late 2000s.
It's not that people are tired of superhero movies. They're just tired of the one and only Marvel movie that gets made over and over. I just really hope that not every film in the new DC franchise will be like that. I love these characters and I'd love to see great movies and shows made with them.
DC movies are flopping too, dude.
Yes, the ones from this current misguided version of a DC shared universe that was dead on arrival. I'm talking about the new ones.
So badly they are coming to Tubi
>with successes like Puss Last Wish
You say this as if animation companies that have been around for decades with few competitors are going to live or die depending on how their last 2-3 movies did
DC needs to nuke everything. No more crisis events that cause a reboot. Just start from 1 again and erase everything that happened before. Develop a strict line of mandates and restrictions that prevent shit from flying off the handle again.
They've done this like five times. It won't ever stick, it's pointless.
Because nobody wants to read comics. And they never will.
Superman eating fricking food in a manga is better than the entirety of DC. American capeshit has the worst writing I've ever seen in recent history.
>SS: Kill the Justice League
Imagine if they were owned by a japanese company. This would've never gone through.
>Is there a reason so many companies are FIRING people by the multiple thousands?
It's very simple. First, many of these media companies experienced increased revenue during the pandemic since so many people were stuck at home paying for media. Second, for the last several years, interest rates have been at record lows. This allows companies to borrow large amounts of money to place bets on their ability to expand at little cost. Flush with cash, all these companies threw it all into growth (number only goes up, right?) and hired multitudes of extra headcount to support their efforts.
Now in the last year, we're seeing consumer spending on media return to normal levels (people can go out and do things), but to a company focused on quarterly returns, they interpret that as loss of business instead of the actual return to normalcy. Since they believe all their big growth bets didn't pay off and they can't borrow more cash as cheaply to keep trying, they're trimming all the extra headcount.
While my heart goes out to anyone impacted by a layoff, these were unsustainable jobs that never should have existed in the first place.
Its not just them its tech and all consumer goods. Hasbro by 2025 will have shed 2000 jobs, Microsoft, Google, Twitter, apple all shedding jobs. Automation is cleaning house. Little to no data entry, little to no purchasing departments, means less managerial roles. While the feds tout unemployment figure drops they ignore the reality that most Americans aren’t even on unemployment - they’re jobless or unaccounted for.
In ten years most Americans will not have a job or job opportunity.
Lower your standard of living and you’ll be fine. Live within your means.
>t. Boomer Wisdom dot com
Literally stop being moronic with your money. Don’t constantly buy shit you don’t need. Pirate entertainment if you need to.
>dude just turn to crime
>dude just accept your paycheck being nothing but canned beans and house payments
>dude just eat the bugs
I pirate and this is a fricking stupid mentality. Go to hell.
Dude, I have an air fryer. I’m good with burgers and hotdogs. That and pizza every Friday.
College kids survived fine on Cup Noodles. Skill issue.
They're boycotting Nissin right now.
https://twitter.com/piyococcochan2/status/1732635910918062299
Universal will acquire Warner Bros Discovery.
Disney is too busy acquiring SquareEnix so that Sora will never be neutered in Smash again.
Bugs Bunny says hi.
The FTC only cares about important shit like oil, banks and drugs, media is deemed "not-important" to them and is "you're on your own".
Apparently this site is notoriously bad at predicting bankruptcy, failing on predicting companies as obvious as gamestop while giving false positive on companies like JP Morgan.
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Mostly because they grew too big too fast and the economy is in the shitter so everyone is having to tighten their belts. Also a lot of the biggest companies made some really ill-timed mergers right when the pandemic hit so they're left holding the bag.
give it two months
disney will acquire them
>b-but they're also in the shitt-
frick you on about they're still like one of the wealthiest companies out of the entire world
>disney will acquire them
Aren't they in deep shit becouse they don't have the liquid cash to pay for Hulu? I don't think they're in the mood to acquire shit
either that or Hulu's not actually worth the trouble to acquire because it might also involve a whole lot of bureaucracy
They have literally sent Comcast 8 billion dollars already. They may have to pay more, depending on what the independent analysts decide Hulu is actually worth.