>"We are a peaceful planet. We are under attack and have no way to defend ourselves"
>"Sounds like a personal problem. Picard out"
I love the Prime Directive
>"We are a peaceful planet.
>"We are a peaceful planet. We are under attack and have no way to defend ourselves"
>"Sounds like a personal problem. Picard out"
I love the Prime Directive
Who violated the Prime Directive the most? Kirk?
Yeah but you gotta do what you gotta do for primitive pussy
Kirk adhered to the primal directive
nobody
even Archer quickly figured out when to adhere to the spirit of it and when to bend it
There was no prime directive then (Archer makes an explicit nod to this in one episode)
>makes an explicit nod to this in one episode
yes, the exact fricking one I posted
he literally figured out THE SPIRIT of the fricking Prime Directive
>THE SPIRIT of the fricking Prime Directive
Let races die of preventable genetic diseases even if you have the cure in hand? I didn't know Trek was THAT based...
>I didn't know Trek was THAT based...
Yeah, it is,
pre-warp space Black folk too dumb to prevent their own self destruction, die.
Should've done the same with the fricking KlingoBlack folk,
but Spock is a bleeding heart Vulcan.
Spock fricked ruffled Klingon pussy on the side
One episode Archer pulled out of saving an entire civilization because of the spirit of the prime directive and the next he directly interfered with the evolution/survival of another species because it appeared to him as an attractive woman.
>appeared to him as an attractive woman
she WAS fricking hot though
a true Captain knows when to set priorities
Dear Doctor is favorite ENT episode, a shame most people seem to hate it nowadays.
Theres plenty of great episodes that modern audiences are too blond to realize the greatness in it.
Dear Doctor is moronic. He was all able and willing to cure the aliens until he learned they had a genetic disorder and not some kind of infectious disease.
BUT THE ONLY REASON ANYBODY DIES FROM ANY DISEASE IS GENETICS
>a genetic disorder
It wasn't a genetic disorder
Has anybody ever actually been prosecuted for violating the directive?
It's a directive not a rule or law. Get your frick on.
>didn't learn the folly of racism from a crudely painted Frank Gorshin
No wonder the world is irrevocably broken
>Who violated the Prime Directive the most? Kirk?
The gene pool of some planets have been violated bh Kirk
Janeway by miles.
Technically sicko with his bajoran bullshit. Him becoming religious figure and shaping whole people. And other bullshit he did. But you can shrug those off as diplomacy and war.
I have no idea what the Voyager writers were smoking to have her even talk about the prime directive in some episodes. She’d drop that shit instantly and declare genocide on some primitives she didn’t like no sweat.
I don't think Bajor counts as a Prime Directive violation seeing as they were a post-warp civilization with a Federation membership application in the works. Starfleet wasn't particularly happy about Sisko being their prophet, but they also didn't really care that much about it.
Also this, it doesn't count as a Prime Directive violation if they're in the Federation
Yes they do. Prime directive covers everyone. Rember multiple episode where star fleet refuse to act like space police. Prime directive. Its not just primitives.
It’s almost like it’s inconsistently written or something
4u
her being antagonistic with Data was great, her 1 season of characterization is better than all of dr crushers
I agree completely. It’s a shame. She actually had a personality
>remember what they took from you
She was an interesting character, but only in that she was a near carbon copy of Dr. McCoy for that Spock/McCoy dynamic with Data.
Pulaski probably would have mellowed and become less interesting is she stayed longer than she did.
>Prime directive covers everyone
objectively false, trollgay
DS9 is also consistent about Starfleet only just fricking barely being okay with Sisko being the Emissary and the ever growing tension between him, Starfleet, and Bajor over it
>Technically sicko with his bajoran bullshit.
uh no
Federation literally has a directive to NOT frick or interfere with "advanced" class Aliens.
Meaning things like fricking Q or the WORMHOLE entities.
Sisko explicitly had carte blanche for any action he deemed necessary.
Most certainly why he got basically a head pat for all the time travel shenanigans.
And which directive is that? The Prime Directive only covers primitive species.
it's the
NOT GET FRICKING ANNIHILATED BY GOD LEVEL BASTARDS FOR PISSING THEM OF
directive
Ah so you're making shit up, got it.
Luckily Starfleet is not as autistic as you.
>talks out of his ass
>gets btfo
>y-your j-just a-artistic
Yeah keep spewing bullshit you little b***h, it won't make your dad love you.
Picard be like:
>we have the prime directive with explicitly forbids us from interfering with less technologically advanced
civilizations
Q be like:
>sucks to be you moron
There’s a reason people call her Insaneway.
What's the craziest thing shes done? Most times I think her actions are justified.
Sisko gassing an entire planet to chase 1 guy and arrest him was insane to me.
"Delete the wife" always comes to mind. It's low scale in impact but it's a great example of just how evil she can be
I remember that. Just to hook up with a hologram, that she had to manually fix all his faults to make him perfect. What a b***h lmao
Do you never mod your games? You’re missing out
>"Delete the wife"
I love Janeway so much. My captain.
Greatest line in Star Trek
>JANEWAY: Bridge to Chakotay. Scorpion.
>Who violated the Prime Directive the most? Kirk?
No, Kirk was probably the best single captain
>Yeah but you gotta do what you gotta do for primitive pussy
If you actually watch Star Trek instead of just memes about Star Trek you'll see that it is just a meme, women thirst for him constantly but he knocks them back out of duty.
YOU WANNA HEAR ABOUT THE PRIME DIRECTIVE Black person?
I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THE PRIME DIRECTIVE homosexual
THERE IS NO FRICKING PRIME DIRECTIVE
THE PRIME DIRECTIVE IS LIKE THE FRICKING SPEED LIMIT.
EVERYONE FRICKING BREAKS IT
IT EXISTS FOR TWO REASONS:
ONE: TO GIVE CAPTAINS LEGAL COVER FOR WHAT IS IN TRUTH THEIR PERSONAL DISCRETION TO FRICK OFF FROM MORALLY FRICKED UP SITUATIONS IN SERVICE OF THE FEDERATION'S POLITICAL/STRATEGIC INTERESTS WHILE ALLOWING THE CREW TO STILL BELIEVE THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS
TWO: TO GIVE COLORABLE CAUSE TO FEDERATION BRASS TO CRAWL UP YOUR FRICKING ASS ANY TIME THEY WANT FOR A "SUSPECTED" VIOLATION OF THE THING ALL CAPTAINS VIOLATE MORE OFTEN THAN I KIRK VIOLATES THAT SWEET SWEET AYYLMUSSSY, THUS KEEPING CAPTAINS FIRMLY IN LINE AND SUBJECT TO THE WHIMS OF FEDERATION GOVERNMENT WHILE GIVING THEM ESSENTIALLY CARTE BLANCHE TO DO WHATEVER THE FRICK THEY WANT AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PISS OFF WHOEVER IS IN POWER
YOU ARE THE DUMBEST FRICKING BLACK ASSED DOUBLEBlack person THAT HAS EVER DISGRACED THE FEDERATION GET THE FRICK OUT
what a fricking butthole. abuses it for his own benefit and then upholds it to be a smug butthole. no wonder the aliens hate humans
Picard wouldn't be talking to them if the Prime Directive was in effect, if he was talking to them he'd probably be willing to defend them from whatever it was that was trying to kill them.
This. moron made this thread without even knowing what he was talking about. it's only to not interfere with civilization that haven't reached out and made contact themselves yet.
I think there are several examples of them setting up observation posts on pre-warp worlds for “reasons.” That one godawful TNG movie comes to mind
>I think there are several examples of them setting up observation posts on pre-warp worlds for “reasons.” That one godawful TNG movie comes to mind
The TNG episode where they have to break the Prime Directive to interact with the caveman Romulans was terrific.
>My people once lived in caves.
Great line.
>Welcome at Starfleet Academy. For our candidates to advance, they need to successfully complete the following assignment.
>*Following assignment is Kobayashi-Maru test, which is unwinnable by design*
What did Starfleet mean by this?
weeding out snowflakes
This post is bait right? You don’t know about that test without its purpose being screamed into your ear holes.
The point is to teach that real life isn’t a fricking game and you can’t always “win” a scenario.
No it isn't, because it's pretty obvious that sometimes you run in to a situation and lose. That's a pointless way to teach something everyone already knows. The point of the test was simply to see how a prospective officer reacted to the scenario. The only winning move is to leave the Kobayashi Maru stranded in the neutral zone but that's a pretty despicable thing to do. Everything else you could do results in total disaster but the testers want to see what you choose and how you react when everything goes wrong and keeps getting worse. Would you sacrifice your ship and go down fighting? Try to negotiate with angry klingons until they kill you? Abandon the civilian ship to save your own?
is right. HOW you respond to the no-win situation determines the type of command role you are best suited for. A flagship like the D which is doing a lot of delicate political, ambassadorial, etc. brinksmanship needs to be handled one way; a deep space exploration vessel which is cut off from civilization for years at a time needs to be handled another way.
The Kobayashi Maru is a very brutal sorting hat.
>brinksmanship
Didn't know the word, but it makes immediate sense. I'm tired of english constructing new words out of latin roots to sound smart or worse, borrowing entire phrases from latin/french.
>beforehand -> a priori
>legally -> de jure
>common -> ubiquitous
as cringe as when russain/ukr transliterates words from english
online -> onlayn / oнлaйн
Black person -> nyegr / нeгp
>beforehand -> a priori
>common -> ubiquitous
These are not the same things lol. Close, but no cigar.
>beforehand -> a priori
wtf that is incredibly incorrect
>The Kobayashi Maru is a very brutal sorting hat.
I dislike it because it's just a test. A brutal test, but you know it's all fake. If I had to write it, I'd have the main character be on say, month 6 of a mission and run into the Kobayashi Maru. Have them fail to win, die, and then wake up.
'Congrats, you passed. Yeah we put you under and altered your memories to make you think you graduated a year ago and have been on assignment. That was all a sim in your mind or holodeck or whatever. Only way to see what you're really made of.'
I don't think they'll let you replicate a whole ship or anything really dangerous like a nuke as just a random civilian. Anyway I thought most people in the Federation didn't do that much and just fricked around all day with holodecks and hobbies. The people who go into Starfleet service are the cream of the crop and want the recognition and status that comes with that. So Picard can send you to the brig, court martial you, or just somewhat harm your career to get you to comply.
>I dislike it because it's just a test. A brutal test, but you know it's all fake. If I had to write it, I'd have the main character be on say, month 6 of a mission and run into the Kobayashi Maru. Have them fail to win, die, and then wake up.
>'Congrats, you passed. Yeah we put you under and altered your memories to make you think you graduated a year ago and have been on assignment. That was all a sim in your mind or holodeck or whatever. Only way to see what you're really made of.
That's how they played it with Wesley's "Psych Test" in TNG. I think later they retconned the KM as standard.
Also with Troi's Command certification exam. She tried again and again to save the warp core from breaching, and finally realized she had to order someone (Geordi) to their death to get the job done and save the ship.
>Blackpilling future Starfleet material right from the start
You have to be a nonfunctional autist to even CONSIDER defending this
>The simulation is performed in the novel Stone and Anvil (2003), a part of the Star Trek: New Frontier series by Peter David. In this version, Klingons are replaced by Romulans (the series takes place after the events of the sixth film) and the simulation is conducted on the holodeck. Captain Mackenzie Calhoun tries to save the Kobayashi Maru, but when he notices that the enemy ships are using it as cover, he orders it fired upon, resulting in two of the three enemy ships being driven towards each other and exploding. Having saved his crew, Calhoun orders them to escape
Based.
sounds like a win to me.
Total Romulan Death
If you're visiting a planet and one of the native princesses commands you to marry her would you legally have to? According to the Prime Directive.
Somewhat related, but does anybody else remember the Prime Directive episode where Riker is in a primitive hospital, and in order to escape, the nurse blackmails him into fricking her, and he actually does.
Isn't that the biggest breach of the Prime Directive? Like what if Riker got her pregnant, and the half-breed spread a virus that kills everyone? Or what if a half-breed develops a cult because he is half-alien?
Yep is right there
Don't frick the alien
In the Trek universe half breeds are barely possible and only survive to term due to sci-fi medical intervention during pregnancy
Wasn't there loads of Cardasi-bajoran rape-babies?
People dont want to think it be like how it go, but it do
>Wasn't there loads of Cardasi-bajoran rape-babies?
Those two specifically share a common ancestor.
They all do. See:
It’s lame and gay
I'm saying spoonies and ridgers are more directly related than humans and klingons.
Yeah...but it mostly wasnt rape. Its one of the things that makes the Bajorans look shitty.
Threadly reminder: Dukat fricked Kira’s mom, and she liked it
Then he fricked Kira by proxy because kira remembers her mom getting fricked by Dukat. What a wild ride that was.
I hate Kira
I want to lick her nose ridges. Consensually
Dukat doesnt need permission.
Kira isn't very likeable but I'd lick her feet.
Ok, Spoonhead
>half breeds are barely possible
That doesn't make any sense, because there are hundreds of American characters in the franchise.
>if Riker got her pregnant
the male contraceptive is literally canon,
if you'd actually watched the fricking show you would know
Every starfleet officer has fretility implant they can turn off and on. They have control over pregnancies. Imagine those massive ships with mixed crews and families if this wasn't case.
O'Brian constantly monitors Riker's dick and activates a teleporter hole when the need arrives
i want an actual hard-ass captain. theres to many scenes throughout the shows where terrorists and aliens take over the ship, kill people, BUT THEN they learn the error of their ways after the ship gets taken back and everyone is happy. frick that i'd like to see the crew take back the ship by force and then airlock the buttholes, or send them back to their own ship while its disabled and their enemies are on the way. more eye for an eye stuff. you see a little bit of it in every captain when they get pushed far enough, sisko chasing eddington etc, but i want to see a captain thats like that all the time.
Then make your own KlingoBlack person show because that's exactly how moronic they are.
klingons are dumb and attack everything which isn't what i was suggesting
Voyager. One of the reasons certain trekkies are mad about it.
I hate to admit it, but Shaw in Picard was close to that. Would’ve loved to just have a spin-off with him and his crew.
Jellico wouldn't work out a peaceful solution with hostile alien ghosts possessing his crew just because they're sentient, he just would have figured out how to kill them and done it
Was it kino?
>galaxy wide rebellion against false gods
vs.
>meeting space Black folk who can't even warp
why is one you gays always posting this false equivalency bullshit?
We should have used the Prime Directive for Africa.
First episode of STD they break the prime directive.
No, they don't.
Not /trek/, doesn't matter
How come humans exist in so many different planets?
the goauld sent them everywhere as slave labour
indeed
They're the decedents of the federations political enemies that were exiled during its formation.
>How come humans exist in so many different planets?
Prior to the creation of the Federation, human colonists were leaving Earth willy-nilly and setting up wherever they could find a suitable planet.
At the time OP's pic takes place, humans have had FTL travel for at least 200 years.
I don't know if this is related but wasn't there a TNG episode where they find an ancient species that seeded the galaxy with life which is why everyone looks humanoid?
I couldn't have just dreamed that.
you remember correctly
It was a whole arc to end a season. The best part to me was the Kardie/Romulan reactions to the news
>the real treasure was the friends we made along the way
>wait, what? No doomsday weapon and we’re related to these gays? Frick off
> It was a whole arc to end a season
why lie
It was at least a couple episodes wasn’t it? It’s been a while
don't get triggered by the fricking lodegay
he couldn't even hope to remember when he had his last shit
you probably confused it with that weird multi-part season ending of Picard turning into an under-cover space pirate
>don't get triggered by the fricking lodegay
He's not here, otherwise we'd see In Trek News screenshots
>It was at least a couple episodes wasn’t it? It’s been a while
Unless its an actual two-parter episode, no. The entire thing about TNG is that episodes are almost entirely self-contained with only occasional throw backs. They don't do arcs other than maybe very general character progression as the show figures out what kind of character Riker actually needs to be in an episode to tell a proper TNG story.
I was wrong, I admit it. I will now commit Klingon sudoku for my faulty memory
>t.
one pain stick run coming up
>chirp - Holodeck is ready
>"Bridge to Lower Decks, clean up the Holodeck after Mr Worf has had its coomi- I mean Pain Stick Run Session"
>Lower Decks, clean up the Holodeck
frick your disgusting McMahan shit tropes to humiliate mostly Beumler,
the only fricking white male
Holodeck is literally self cleaning by design and of course connected to the replicator waste matter network
The show routinely displays Boimler and the most capable of the four leads and gives him plenty of moments to shine. He is the only person of the four that is anything remotely close to true captain material. Mariner and Tendi have too many psychological issues that drives them away from high command but into rank-and-file officer duties and science respectively while Rutherford is too focused on engineering. HIm having to do something embarrasing every once in a while is just part of being a great leader.
Yeah, he took charge after he got his shit together and led a party of 3 to replace some Crystal's for some super computer or something. It was a pretty good LD episode and I usually dont like a lot of the episodes.
It was a single shitty epi
Directed by Frakes no less
>I don't know if this is related but wasn't there a TNG episode where they find an ancient species that seeded the galaxy with life which is why everyone looks humanoid?
Yeah. I thought anon was specifically asking why there were lots of trek planets with humans on them.
Yes, it was a TNG episode called The Chase, featured Dr. Galen, Picard's archeology teacher. He discovered DNA related to a massive amount of species that fit together like a puzzle and generated a map to a system where they met a holographic representation of the first intergalactic species. They spread their DNA all over the place because they were lonely. Kind of like an intergalacting Hot Gluing party.
Stupid episode. They didn't need to have a canonical reason why so many species looked like humans but with bumps on their head. It's TV.
>?
>Prior to the creation of the Federation, human colonists were leaving Earth willy-nilly and setting up wherever they could find a suitable planet.
That sounds like a better series. Who the frick wants the final frontier filled with rules and regulations?
>That sounds like a better series. Who the frick wants the final frontier filled with rules and regulations?
TOS regularly bumped into human colony worlds that didn't give a shit about the Federation. It's one of the reasons I like the tone of TOS compared to the others.
I think they realised without the backup of a federation they would get graped by klingons etc.
There’s an episode of Ent where this exact scenario plays out
That's why Texas became a State. They needed the military force of Washington to save them from the Mexicans.
Earths real prime directives are from the Bible. The Golden Rule "Love one another" or to put it simply WWJD What would Jesus do?
Thanks grandma, now please stop embarrassing me in front of my friends
Africans already invented it first. Look up Kintu and his Law of Love.
I really dig Star Trek, but at times it feels communist.
Anon...
I never noticed any israelites or Christians in star fleet. How did they resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict also?
>I never noticed any israelites in star fleet
Have you even watched any Star Trek media besides the reboot trilogy? israelites are the most infamous stereotype portrayed. Christians are just the Borg. They're a moronic hivemind, not much else to say.
Are you really that moronic to think Borg are Christian? Some factions of Christianity stay away from technology, and all true Christians believe in the building the standard family , straight marriages, clean sex, having children, amd church on either Saturday or Sunday.
>Some factions of Christianity stay away from technology
Name one (1)
>true Christian
What's that?
By the way you just confirmed my theory by giving multiple examples of the Christian hivemind. No exceptions, no context, just listen to the Que- I mean King and don't ask questions. Granted, the Borg could be seen as most religions in general, but Christianity would be the most prominent comparison given the Borg's primary intention to travel the universe and assimilate everybody, or else.
>name 1
Opis die
Mennonites
>Opus Dei
from their personal charity and social work, Opus Dei members organize training in Catholic spirituality applied to daily life; members are involved in running universities, university residences, schools, publishing houses, hospitals, and technical and agricultural training centers.
, residences, schools, publishong houses, hospitals, and technical and agricultural training centers
>Mennonites
Nevermind that these morons are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, content to be pacifist until their governing societal body ceases to protect them so they abandon it and flee, only to leech off of another body willing to defend its ideals AND potentially sacrifice itself, unlike the cowardice of the Mennonites. These slackjawed homosexuals may as well be classified as a disease. IGNORING that, they only deny "modern technology" so by the time of the 24th-25th century, they'd be content to use iPhones and shit, because in reality their hivemind makes no sense but DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, JUST FOLLOW THE QUEEN, AHHH WE'RE UNDER ATTACK, ABORT, FLEE, ASSIMILATE!
Reminds me of that stupid homosexual from Hacksaw Ridge, the fictionalized version anyway, not the real guy. He was just Medic Batman who kept making up religious excuses for not using a firearm, when in reality it was just psychological issues from his childhood experience. Jesus Christ I hope God has a sense of humor because his "people" are some of the dumbest motherfrickers in history. Can't imagine an eternity surrounded by these morons.
If you're gonna play fast and loose with the definition of "technology" you might as well just call it "making use of a particularly sharp rock".
Nta but stone age technology is technology in every sense of the word.
Matthew 15:24
>Christians are just the Borg. They're a moronic hivemind, not much else to say.
Don't you have to be 18 to post here?
Not that I'm aware of. Uh oh, did I violate moot's prime directive?
Ww2 happened and a nuclear holocaust happened. Centuries after we get to trek.
most pre-federation Earth conflicts were settled with nukes. Lots of optimistic people forget this part of Star Trek and think that the federation utopia is something that we can achieve by just agreeing to disagree.- What actually needs to happen, according to Star Trek, is that basically every conflict escalating to their maximum and in the aftermath as people fight with sticks and stones over the few bits of the planet that isn't an irradiated hellscape, aliens show up and everyone realizes they've probably taken things a bit too far.
Fun fact: the Chinese and Indians are currently fighting over disputed territory in the Himalayas with rocks and sticks.
I wonder which came first, Starship Troopers or Star Trek? Both world governments arise the same way, after the nuclear WW3
Probably troopers that leads into trek.
The idea of a nuclear WW3 was around before WW2 even ended.
Troopers seems much more like a fascistic future of the federation more than the federatons past. The real horror elements of pre-federation Trek is more like max mad but with laserguns while Troopers is more what you'd expect if the federation actually did all the shit that almost made it a military state during the dominion war but taken even further since its fully embraced q human supremacist ideology as well. We can just sort of assume that all the other races in the federation like Vulcans are either not allowed on Earth or they've been completely destroyed to the point where they're irrelevant to any day to day life of the federation. Like sure there might be a shitload of Romulans out there but if they're no longer warp capable then the entire empire just stops being a thing and rather than being scared of "THE Romulans" its more like you choose not to land on specific planet because there's basically a hundred million bronze age Romulans living on it, its not so much a threat against the federation as it is an annoyance. Meanwhile the the bugs are actually capable of expanding between star systems so they're far more relevant as a threat.
Starship Troopers is not actually fascist. Check what fascism means.
>fascistic future
you didn’t read the book did you?
There's ferengi to depict galactic juden.
Ferengi are much more like the Chinese who's God is Money. You know the Chinese phrase for Happy New Year really means make more money.
>the Ferengi
>I really dig Star Trek, but at times it feels communist.
I never understood how the economy worked. There's no money and everyobe uses replicators. So why am I'm listening to Picard? What he going to do fire me? Who cares. I'll replicate my own Enterprise. With balckjack, and uh hookers.
Earth doesn't use money. Other places do. Federation uses money when it has to.
>Earth doesn't use money. Other places do. Federation uses money when it has to.
Which answers nothing. I'll just replicate some gold plated platinum or what the the hell those little space israelites use
Latinum for whatever reason can’t be replicated. Seems like a bit of a maguffin, but it’s a tv show ffs
Latinum is too dense to replicate.
>ultra-neutronium hull plating? I got you
>latinum? beyond our tech, sorry>
Also cant replicate dilithium crystals.
I am aware anon. I do love the show(s) but they’re not well written or even internally consistent. It’s just mindless fun
They're the most internally consistent science fiction TV shows ever made, stop shitposting.
Until Voyager. DS9 if you count them contradicting everything that The Host established about the Trill.
Aww, did I hurt your feefees by pointing out its a tv show for nerds? But not intelligent nerds, mind, just those who want to pretend that superluminal travel is possible? I’m sowwy
I just can't express the amusement I feel for watching you nuTrek shills suffer the failure of your woke goyslop.troony shows.
You actually were so deluded to believe you were anywhere near winning.
I don’t watch that shit friendo. Aside from Lower Decks that is, it’s just good fun
>Aside from Lower Decks
yer not my friend, pal
you are the enemy
I didn’t realize he’d cameo’ed previously.
bit harsh innit m8
>show literally grooms children
not really
understated actually
bit hyperbolic innit m8
Zaslav is coming for you, fatass.
yeah, fricking awesome news
best of all, odds are great the fricking Kurtzman/Abrams timelines will die too with this sale,
as the Bad Robot deal WILL be canceled
Yeah. There’s no way Kurtzman (or any NuTrek producer) is keeping his job if Zaslav ends up in charge. Hacks hate him because he’s more than willing to cancel irredeemable garbage with extreme prejudice.
check Twitter
nutrek shits are already shitting their pants
>Hacks hate him because he’s more than willing to cancel irredeemable garbage with extreme prejudice.
got damn homie you dumber than a bag of hammers
fricking morono
they always do these woke shitshows in batches
sounds like he is not more than willing then
Velma was greenlit before Zaslav took over.
he could always cancel it as it is irredeemable garbage
HE DID NOT
Matalas was already a course correct and executed well. McMahan is doing fine in his sandbox. Discovery is over. and SNW is just plain fun.
If he cancels the Section 31 abortion and puts Matalas in charge of future endeavors I will be satisfied.
>well. McMahan is doing fine in his sandbox. Discovery is over. and SNW is just plain fun.
Nah. All of this shit needs to go and people responsible must not be allowed to touch this franchise ever again.
One Star Trek show is all we need. Not another shitty prequel, or an adult cartoon, or spin-off garbage. It’s time to make real Star Trek again, family friendly Trek.
In Zaslav we trust.
The main problem with NuTrek is hubris and the lack of limitations. Showrunners get unlimited money for their vanity projects.
A change in leadership would necessitate either the complete revamp of Star Trek as a brand or complete cancellation. Either way, we could get something watchable for the first time in years if this deal comes to fruition.
The way he stays in charge is if Star Trek is actually successful and all the typical social media trash talk is just trash talk from a grumpy minority of irrelevant nobodies. We can all sit around and say "Oh nobody watches Picard!" while pulling figures out of our asses but Paramount absolutely has real data about these things that covers so many metrics you'd call it excessive if you saw it. If another company buys them out then it means they now have access to that data. If they see it and go "Wow, Star Trek is fricking HUGE" there's no reason to fire Kurtzman or do anything else with the people under him. its more likely that WB would start a second production team for it to make a movie rather than a streaming show.
Nothing of the current Star Trek will survive the transition. M&A in of itself can last long enough for various contracts to expire, projects can enter the production limbo. I can assure you that Zaslav wouldn’t tolerate more than one Trek show, assuming he just doesn’t can the whole thing.
Star Trek would be starting from scratch.
lower decks was on youtube for free and only got 50k views. they also air SNW & PIC on pluto. acts of pure desperation because no one is watching. netlfix or disney or amazon would never release their shit for free
We actually have Nielsen data for the parody cartoon. They aired two episodes in the first week to boost their ratings and they still didn’t make it into top ten originals.
However, an adult cartoon I’ve never heard of (Disenchantment) made it into Top 10 in the same week after it was no longer releasing new episodes.
I think this tells you everything you need to know. I don’t wanna know how much Paramount spends on astroturfing McMahan’s little parody, but the numbers have to be astronomical.
>However, an adult cartoon I’ve never heard of (Disenchantment)
Made by the Simpsons people but it's not good. It would be much better if they didn't try to pack it with topical jokes from 6 months before it aired.
If ratins are that low then it will go away on its own as bad business. No need for this weird Daddy Zaslav worship.
The reason Paramount is in this situation is BECAUSE they don’t operate like a business should (ie cancel unsuccessful things). It’s a nepotism-driven company, ratings don’t matter to them.
I don’t know why they cancelled Prodigy but it likely had to do with ESG quotas over anything else.
somewhat true. the people in charge now are obsessed with P+ and will put up with shit quality to get more content. now matter who the new boss is he will likely bail on P+ and almost all of its programming.
actually you're just a mindless troll AND no fun
>Latinum is too dense to replicate.
Thats fine I'll replicate some shit to trade for latinum.
Replicators really frick up the economy.
Okay but you'll need a lot of power to replicate anything worth enough to trade for latinum.
There's no way Earth could make it into deep space without money. Even the communists had to use money taken from rich and poor people to get into space.
Its assumed that from resources in space they fixed and made earth some paradise.
To be honest it's best to not even think about the economics side of trek it's all a huge cluster fricks of mixed ideologies.
Yeah it's a fake sci-fi economy, I kind of get it. Star Wars seems to treat money better where military strength and accumulation of precious energy producing raw materials allows for exponential growth of wealth.
>So why am I'm listening to Picard? What he going to do fire me? Who cares. I'll replicate my own Enterprise. With balckjack, and uh hookers.
That's literally what people did.
There's tons of eps where the Enterprise comes by to save morons like you.
And Picard WOULD fire your ass,
so your officers patent and all those years at the Academy would be for nothing.
Oh no! Guess I'll just be a neet and do whatever I want!
and you would eventually have a nice day out of sheer boredom
win-win
>suicide
Why? The future is full of sexually active prostitutes, theres holodecks that can take me anywhere and do anything. I dont have to get a job and if I get bored I'll just get some job doing something else it's not like I have to pay for bills or worry about anything.
I'm arguing with a fricking child..
grow up.
>NOOOOOOO YOU MUST ADHERE TO MY AUTHORITY IM THE CAPTAIN!!!!
Suck my dick bootlicker I dont have to do shit and you WILL take care of me as I be a parasitic hindrance in this society.
>and you WILL take care of me
see, that's where you're wrong kiddo
welcome to an advanced NON-COMMUNIST society
NOBODY is obliged to care about any of your bullshit, unless you actively break laws
then your ass is going to jail
>just you wait captain, the shoe may be on the other (webbed) foot one day
>only way to go to jail is to murder.
Guess what I dont need to murder or be in a conspiracy to cover up said murders, I'll just be a bum and suck on the teat of treks moronic no money no worries way of life. So yes, YOU will take care of me, and you WILL thank me for it.
There is some mention of credits, but not clarified what they are or how to get them. They could be social credit scores where your deeds are measured and use these credits for things that aren't considered necessities that are paid for by society (UBI, NHS, Housing, etc).
So you'd be living the bare minimum of existence and be a nothing in a society with infinite resources. But eventually you'd probably take a hobby on and expand on that, taking on some notability as a expert of something and you'll get literal credits to spend then to further what has become your career.
I guess you just weren't made for Starfleet, but you can still contribute in some way to society.
>why yes, now that you mention it, I would prefer to hang out with my cute holowaifu and holoiguana. What’s that? You need a holo doctor? Sure *snickers* have this guy. You can pay me extra for the personality subroutines, suckers
well, the EMH Mk1 did end up saving his life (or talked him out to refusing treatment), so it worked out.
It was intended as a joke, but it’s another example of pretty spotty writing
>we’ve finally made contact with the alpha quadrant by stealing internet from the Hirogen
>I know, let’s send our only doctor over the data stream so he can tend to his creator. You know, the guy who’s been making holograms for decades and has the best equipped hololab in the galaxy
Herpaderp
What’s wrong with that? Voyager EMH had medical knowledge and experience unknown in the Federation
Obligatory Neilsen ratings booster. Let's not talk about that one either.
I did like The Rock in his first Jumanji movie though.
That was a great episode though.
It was just a crossover cameo for the network’s wrestling program. Your criticisms against Voyager are nonsensical. Are you mad because DS9 was the least successful Star Trek back then? Even Ent had less of a viewership decline.
Maybe you're thinking of another Anon, but I liked DS9 as well as VOY for their own reasons. I'm not a fan of wrestling. Star Trek Fatigue set in with ENT S1 and I quit after that.
Ent is pretty good mid season 2 and season 3 is best wish we had more andorian/archer kino.
season 3 is so shit it killed Ent. s3 ratings fell off harder than Ds9
IIRC (haven't watched the episode in a while) it was at the Doctor's behest to be sent, knowing the risk. The Doctor by then was more than just his original programming and thought he could help him beyond whatever the doctors were doing for him. But I think it all just came down to convincing him to letting them do the life-saving procedure.
Frankly a pretty good episode IMO. Living Witness being my favorite Doctor ep.
>And Picard WOULD fire your ass,
Oh no!! I'm fired from my job where I don't get paid.
I won't be able to do it for free anymore.
You very low conscious "peoples" here don't have to worry about such advanced Trek concepts
You won't have made it past the coming Bell Riots, let alone the Eugenic Wars.
Dont be mad at me because trek's economy is moronic. Why would I work with any effort for no gain? Its fricking stupid anon. Explain to me why I have to give any shit about the federation or anything when I literally dont have to.
VERY low conscious indeed.
Not an arguement, thanks for playing.
>kid thinks I'm arguing with him
that's heavy
Is this achievable natty?
Dr Pulaski was based wished we got to keep her instead of bev crusher easily the worst character besides wesley
>Dont be mad at me because trek's economy is moronic. Why would I work with any effort for no gain? Its fricking stupid anon. Explain to me why I have to give any shit about the federation or anything when I literally dont have to.
In the future we're all space jannies apparently
>funky space adventures
>jacking it in a holodeck machine forever
You still have access to the holodeck when adventuring aswell.
space adventures
I could do that stowing on freighters.
it in a holodeck machine forever
Were assuming earth doesnt have it's own set of holodecks? Is it federation only? I doubt.
>You still have access to the holodeck when adventuring aswell.
Yeah I'm just not gonna work when I literally dont have to.
I meant that there's holodeck on planets aswell yea. So you could just have imaginary adventures your whole life aswell. Although I think the real ones where you get to meet new life forms is funkier.
The real answer is that most people don't. Starfleet is very small part of the overall population
Did it ever occur to you that people join Starfleet and explore the galaxy because they want to?
You can explore the galaxy and not be a bootlicker.
he doesn't know about the Starfleet press gangs
Oh you said “press gangs.” Had me worried for a second there
i'd press her, if you get my drift
I am afraid that I do not. It would appear that I still have much to learn
you're fully functional
Remind me why Data got drunk or whatever in that episode. This is another seeming inconsistency in the writing
>I’m an android and not susceptible to things that’d incapacitate a humanoid, unless the plot demands it of course
>*pours a glass of whisky down to my pc*
Oh, but it's a machine. It can't get drunk and have no repercussions from getting liquids in its system.
Set your Phaser to kys, homosexual
None of them were actually drunk, just had severely impaired judgement from something that somehow impacted everyone on board regardless of race, creed, or positronic brain. Not written by hacks at all, nosiree bob
It was the 2nd episode of the series and they already do a call back to The Naked Time. It was trash and never spoke of it again, except for Data being intimate with Yar.
>never spoken of again
>except for all those times they spoke about it
What did he mean by this?
The Data being able to get drunk thing.
Imaging seeing TNG for the first time airing. Encounter At Farpoint was meh, but it kinda felt like TOS, but on morality steroids. Then you get The Naked Now, a rehash of TOS' The Naked Time. Third episode is Code of Honor...
If TNG came out today, I'd have dropped it then. But it was the only New Star Trek that you could watch at the time, so you kept on.
I remember being very young and still somehow very disappointed with Farpoint when it aired. I’m glad it got better anyway, but it did take at least until the second or third season.
There are certainly a lot of clunkers in the first couple seasons. It was cheesy and corny, but there were some gems and you could see the potential. At least they were still exploring new scientific concepts and ethical dilemmas, unlike much of today's Trek.
TNG is pretty much Office Management in Space. Outside dilemma, get the team together and work the problem out. Rinse and repeat. Oh, and be nice to your coworker even though you don't like them. lel
First time I tried watching TNG Envounter at farpoint was so weird I turned it off and waited a couple months to try watching it again. I love TNG now (not all episodes of course but most of it). Had seen only the mushroom space travel bix nood captain series beforehand.
Starfleet is a militaristic organization, anybody on the Enterprise is there because they want to advance their careers and do novel work that they couldn't do otherwise. Everyone implicitly follows the chain of command because they had to follow it for years to get there in the first place, nobody tells Picard to frick off because he's the Captain and they're there to work under him.
It almost takes on an aspect of ancient Rome, where wealthy families sent sons off to war and threw triumphs to gain prestige, rather than to just accrue wealth. People in Star Trek just want to do cool shit because if all they wanted to do is drink and frick holo-hookers all day, they could do that on Earth until the day they died, and that gets old
most people don't want to be on the enterprise for basically the reasons you listed. They're fine with doing whatever they feel like. However there's people like Geordi that are there to work with cutting edge science and engineering. A routine mission for him involves actively inventing new tech to solve completely novel problems while working with the best people in the federation. You can't replicate someone like Data for example and working with him means you effectively have direct access to one of the most advanced computers in the federation while also having access to the bhnar upgraded Enterprise computer which is so absurdly powerful that the holodeck is casually able to shit out sentient AI beings.
Look at some of the replies this got. Just admit that the writers fricked up, and move on.
>Star Trek: Picard S3 features Jack Crusher Jr., the Borg-Human hybrid son of Jean-Luc Picard (aged 76) and Beverly Crusher (aged 57), named after the latter's late husband and former's best friend who despite being attracted to Beverly vowed never to act on his feelings
...could they really not come up with anything else but this?
Taking sides in conflicts that don't concern you with less developed civilizations is just asking for trouble.
Missions specifically dedicated to exploring the universe can easily be interpreted as "asking for trouble" so it should come as no surprise when you find it. If nothing else it should be a delight, even if what you find is something you may otherwise not have wanted.
In the incredibly vague example by OP, the society in question is able to communicate with the Enterprise and has prior understanding of its technology and/or purpose, or has otherwise been exposed unintentionally. The Directive demands the present Captain then handle whatever situation has arisen, which in this case would be attempted diplomacy with the third party, not ignorance.
>Taking sides in conflicts that don't concern you with less developed civilizations is just asking for trouble.
Not when you have stock in Raytheon and Lockheed Martin
space is a cruel place and they don't make pussy b***hes captain of these vessels
what's one less civilization when you've got thousands of planets already
I just watched a TOS episode (bread and circuses, kino btw) where a starfleet dropout becomes a monstrous despot and there’s a scene where McCoy and Spock are fighting for their lives and Kirk is basically colder than that mf’er by a country mile. I think this episode was also the first mention of the prime directive as they have a bunch of exposition about it before they violate the shit out of it. Did I mention it was kino?
That never happened
If they don' t violate the prime directive you wouldn' t have an episode to watch.
Sit down and be quiet.
>If they don' t violate the prime directive you wouldn' t have an episode to watch.
What if I'm from a planet where violating the prime directive is part of my culture? Would the Star Trek crew have to stop thus violating the prime directive themselves, or just let me continue.
Your culture isn't above Starfleet doctrine and regulations. Ensign Ro can't wear her Bajoran earring because it's against Starfleet dress code. She later gets to wear it as a sign of tolerance and trust Picard gave her (poor decision in hindsight).
In VOY Tuvok made another Bajoran crewman remove his earring and even hairbands for women are unacceptable if "festive".
You, with a culture of violating the Prime Directive, wouldn't even be in Starfleet, possibly not even the Federation if you're selling your tech to primitives.
>What if I'm from a planet where violating the prime directive is part of my culture? Would the Star Trek crew have to stop thus violating the prime directive themselves, or just let me continue.
They would engineer a circumstance where you're left pleading with them to come save you from your own hubris.
Alright anon, this is your time. (You) are the captain and are now facing a Kobayashi Maru scenario.
WHAT THE FRICK DO YOU DO?!
Do a 360 and moonwalk away
You make the Enterprise do a whole 360 and moonwalk away?
Based honestly.
>Kobayashi Maru scenario
What is even the purpose of that.
>we need starfleet captains to know how to handle an unwinnable situation.
Why? It's unwinnable.
You dont know its unwinnable, they just set you up for a test to see what you would do and how you handle under stressful situations. After you failed then they say oh yeah it was the kobayashi maru test.
That’s the joke tho anon, they all fricking know about it. Section 31 my ass
How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life, wouldn't you say?
Even if you know it is unwinnable, the Kobayashi Sorting Hat determines very quickly what things you sacrifice first in a cost-benefit tradeoff. When the shit hits the fan, If you have to give SOMETHING, what is it you give?
Is it your life?
Is it the peace?
Is it something else?
This is very important. You want a captain which sacrifices his or her life to keep the peace if their ship is patrolling the Neutral Zone.
You want a captain which will sacrifice the peace if they are deep in the Delta Quadrant.
Every answer is the wrong one but there is no wrong answer, you dig?
thanks for proving how wise the KM test is
Do what that one EU guy did and just blow up the Kobayashi Maru then frick off
Klingons don't take prisoners after all
This is a pretty decent /trek/ thread, normally it's a shit show. I wonder what's going on?
>Warner Bros will likely buy Paramount
post yfw Zaslav deletes NuTrek for a write-off
The scale of star trek always fails me. You would need to be prepared for war at any given moment because you have no idea what kind of alien species are out there. There are like what, 5000 starships in the federation? That seems like nothing on a galactic scale.
With replicators it's not like they don't have the resources and seeing how no one does anything on Earth starfleet would have no shortages of recruits. I would be pumping out millions of starships just to be ready for an intergalactic war. What do you have to lose? No one is doing shit anyways.
Not to mention if you run into a species that can travel entire galaxies. You would just be fricked. Star Wars has the same problem. It's a galactic war and there are like 100 rebels.
>opens up a transdimensional portal into your home system
>heh, nothing personal vermin
It's fiction. Fiction is stupid. Now you know
Guy wearing a skirt in the pilot shows that it was a psyop from the start.
always was
Wasn't the American Navy first created to combat piracy on the seas?
So maybe they should do their job.
kira is such a shit character they should have stolen the alternate awesome kira and kept her instead
My favorite scene in DS9 is when mirror Kira is explaining the history of Kirk and the Federation to normal-universe Kira, and NUK is just politely nodding and pretending to follow along.
shes better than dax although I feel bad for the actress I dont know what I would have done with a character like that
i think they thought the sisko-kurzon friendship sounded really good on paper then didn't know how to execute it in the show for her character
Kira is the best DS9 character until they assassinated her by pairing her with sad goo man
Sorry, you were correct. A single episode, “The Chase.” I think I must have conflated it with other episodes where Picard gets to be space Indiana Jones
Fun fact: Paramount is the only Hollywood studio that never had a non-israeli CEO in its over 100 year old history.
Okay, if you want to cast aspersions on them for being israeli, fine; but then don't say "they aren't profit-driven" since that is the biggest stereotype about the israelites
they dont care if paramount makes a profit because they are all lining their pockets with their own sub production companies that exist solely to inflate budgets
>they are all lining their pockets with their own sub production companies
so you are implying that the israeli CEOs of paramount have their own sub production companies that they are funnelling money to?
Okay, so what then? If Paramount fails, they are out of their jobs as israeli CEOs of Paramount.
>Okay, so what then? If Paramount fails, they will have to ask BlackRock to print them more debt notes
Fixed that for you.
Sounds like they have a sweet deal. I should go work for them, they've clearly figured out how to win.
i know you're just going to call me a le shill but i really really hate you and wish you would have a nice day rather than going into legitimate movie/tv discussion with your schizo tangents. like what the frick would you rather have people on here talk about all day? oh that's right off-topic politics
>facts are schizo
again paco just fricking assemble the pipe gun, throw a shell down the barrel, put it between your legs and right under your chin, then slam the nail right into the primer
It's interesting how you couldn't muster up any counter besides a long-winded "kys".
>ARGUE WITH ME ARGUE WITH MEEEEE I HAVE NOTHING IN MY FAVELA BUT A COMPUTER TO ARGUE WITH
if you really wanted to go out with a bang you could also try self-immolation.
>all-caps greentext
Yikes.
thats right back down like the b***h you are. throw your head under some train tracks
>Captain, our long range sensors have detected a jungle planet with signs of pre-industrial intelligent life
Whatever, g-
>..humanoid, all females, 6 feet high
WARP TEN
>The plague is a tragedy but it would be wrong to interfere
>Is that a religion? Beam those aliens up now we have to stomp that shit out!
>the troony is here
And the thread is now ruined.
Took him long enough to find it.
It’ll keep happening until NuTrek is dead and buried. And then it’ll keep happening for a while more because it’s hard to undo seven years of damage Kurtzman and his goons did to this franchise.
maybe we’re getting close to the end of the line at least
Which one is the troony?
The Prime Directive would mean protecting an undeveloped planet from interstellar interference. The Prime Directive is about letting civilizations develop naturally with the expectation that development will eventually reach Warp
Unless of course the federation has some sort of economic or strategic interest in the planet, but that’s only logical
Zaslav’s reign can’t start soon enough.
yea man everything else he touched turned to shit, what happens when he touches something thats already shit
Zaslav will save Star Trek.
Feel the rhythm with your hands
(Steal the rhythm while you can)
Spoonman
Speak the rhythm on your own
(Speak the rhythm all alone)
Spoonman
Spoonman
Come together with your hands
Save me, I'm together with your plan
Save me, yeah
Save, oh
All my friends are Indians
(All my friends are brown and red)
Spoonman
He's dead Jim but not as we know it.
The Prime Directive is more of a plot device than some holy sacred rule that can't be broken. Life is more important than keeping primitive traditions.