>"WE ARE A SERIOUS COMPANY! WE HAVE STOCKS! WE AREN'T JUST DUDES HAVING FUN! WE ARE A MULTIMILLIONAIRE RUN COMPANY"
>"You were"
What went wrong?
>"WE ARE A SERIOUS COMPANY!
>"WE ARE A SERIOUS COMPANY! WE HAVE STOCKS! WE AREN'T JUST DUDES HAVING FUN! WE ARE A MULTIMILLIONAIRE RUN COMPANY"
>"You were"
What went wrong?
>What went wrong?
They put an overrated animator in a creative position.
Frick you glowtroony. Monty was the best thing about RWBY.
>What went wrong?
They tried to be a serious company. Then all the skeletons came out while the woke/progressive virus sunk in because they tried to be a serious company.
>woke/progressive
This, it was better when it was bunch of guys doing wathever sounds cool or funny
They stopped doing that and their audience left, only a few battered wifes stayed in hope they could make a return to form or just for the sake of seeing an ending, it's kinda sad
Honestly I think its more because they never had any real talent. All of their animations were like those janky animated movies/shows in tge early mid 2000's.
Maybe if they kept themselves small and humble, and not waste money on shit like Hollywood voice actors they would of survived.
>Maybe if they kept themselves small and humble, and not waste money on shit like hollywood voice actors they would of survived.
This. They were constantly playing with money they didn't actually have and it fricked them over in the end.
>What went wrong
Warner Brothers
They were a YouTube company that didn't plan for everything to start falling off
The animation shit they blew money on was too expensive to maintain, their let's plays started dropping in views like almost all long-running let's play channels do, etc
Internet and Youtube changed and they couldn't adapt with how bloated they became. Younger audiences went in other directions, and they were doing great when YT Lets Plays were at their peak, but then so much gaming content moved over to streaming and the old style of Lets Plays kind of died off some.
lol they never were.
The 'company' was just a means to rack up debt unaccountably. Every named officer for the company should be executed.
As a guy that hates Burnie on an American level, they're not that bad. Some of them deserve to be executed for being anti-American, but they tried to make a successful company. Of course all of them soldout so why they thought that would be a good idea who knows.
RWBY is trash carried by monty's fight scenes.
who was the real israelitedus among them? i still think its burnie's Ego and wanting to be a real celebrity is what kicked the boulder off the cliff. also joel did nothing wrong
Definitely Burnie and Matt needing more money to make 'serious' live-action productions like Day 5 and LaserTeam leading to them getting acquired by FullScreen. But at least Matt stuck it out while Burnie bailed after it became clear the new owners didn't give a shit about his filming ambitions.
Tbh if it's not Grey for making an entire show out of pure embezzlement then I'd have to say the "Miles and Kerry murdered Monty" theory seems more likely with every passing day in hindsight.
I thought the conspiracy was Sheena was a dumbass and brought a cat in when he was allergic
That was unironically and in complete seriousness a Psy op by RT around the middle of a fricking storm of them after Monty's death where they just fricking purged every single person who basically had any close connection to Monty aside from Miles and Kerry which is part of why, when combined with all the shit they did and the blatant lies they got caught in later, why some people started to suspected they had something to do with his death.
How do all of you homosexuals have any of these tards on a first name basis like this?
We just grew up with it.
Fricking grim.
This all depends on how much you believe Shane's letter when he's a confirmed unreliable narrator. I do think they clearly moved in on shit before the body was even cold though and he did prove that some people were pushed out of the picture.
I feel like we're not actually gonna know for years what the frick happened with RWBY and how much of it was Monty's plan vs how much they changed.
RVB moved to Halo Reach.
I won't say that's what went wrong, but dammit, that's the moment RT's decline began.
It coincided with Ray leaving by a yearish I think.
God damn that pic is too true, where did all the years go, I miss playing flash games.
Is it officially a dead company and everyone needs to get normal jobs now?
The executives/founders probably have enough money socked away/invested to effectively retire. The remainder of the on-camera "talent" (lmao) will probably just go into streaming full-time. A few of them may attempt a more "old school" style channel like Bruce and Lawrence are doing. Gavin might just hop back into Hollywood camera work.
Everyone else pretty much already worked a normal job and will be able to leverage their experience to something else.
>Gavin might just hop back into Hollywood camera work
He's been financially secure off of Slo-Mo Guys for years. He's just kept working at RT to hang with his friends. Him and Geoff will still be making F**kFace, it just probably won't have that brand name anymore since Warner owns it.
>What went wrong?
They made garbage, next time don't make garbage
Still not as pathetic as Stuttering Craig thinking he'll save gaming by creating a non-woke version of The Game Awards.
I dunno, at least Stuttering Craig can say he was involved with something good at one point (golden era AVGN).
Rooster Teeth was shit from the getgo.
Early Red vs Blue is on the same level, if not higher given its impact on machinima, as golden era AVGN.
They were a multimillionaire run company. Those people aren't rich because they are good at running things, they're parasites that leech any money they can and bail when the host is about to die.
They should never have gobbled screwattack
>What went wrong?
when RvB started taking itself seriously and focusing on the creator's pet waifu.
diversity hires
It was around the time RWBY happened that things just became unsalvageable.
I tried their sriracha sauce and it was terrible
I couldn’t find that stuff the other day, is this the end?
Check your dollar store. Dollar store sriracha is pretty damn good.
My general impression was that when they started to bring in outside people to handle things like RWBY and Camp Camp that they started to care about things like being "politically correct", hence why all the RvB content got taken down and reuploaded with all the "moron" lines removed.
Or is that wrong? I stopped paying attention after RvB season 13, and even then RvB was the only show they ever made that I actually paid attention to.
You're partially right. A running trend with youtubers who go "legit company in the industry" is
>Apologize
>Delete
>Try your damndest to memory hole
It's not the problem itself but is one of the clearest symptoms, it shows they're running from their own past in an effort to get comfy in the mainstream, but all the same edgy ass people are still there so that past will inevitably spring back up to bite them in the ass and RT had so many edgy people that it bit them again and again. When the cutesy fandom nickname for the gay Achievement Hunter turned out to just be a euphenism for "homosexual" which was the nickname they gave him behind the scenes, that was when a lot of the underlying issue came to light. They were acting PC on camera and immediately dropping it and returning to their actual sense of humor once the camera was off. Which works when everyone behind the scenes are the same edgelords from back in the day, but when you're constantly bringing new people and especially actual paid employees expecting a professional environment in. It becomes a huge problem. And they weren't in a position to clean house with big personalities who were considered synonymous with making the brand what it was so they shoved themselves between a rock and a hard place in that regard
Their shitty name and tryin hard to cater to Cinemaphile
>What went wrong?
Late Stage Capitalism, where actually being able to sell a product isn't as important as showing stockholders graphs where "line goes up," and where guys like Zaslav can run roughshod over art and make a mockery of things like "tax writeoffs."
>WE AREN'T JUST DUDES HAVING FUN!
Except they were, and the moment that wasn't the case anymore is when things started going bad.
>Go woke go broke
>NDA
>Burn the numbers
>Bought and Was bought by useless shit heads
>Never go hollywood
>Never should've hired Mica
>Never should've hired Jeremy and Matt
>RWBY could've saved them, but fricked it up over half a decade
Grim
Game recognize game, but Jeremy and Matt weren't bad. Matt was bad for the screen, but Jeremy was the last hire that was given time to integrate and end up accepted by the fans.
>end up accepted by the fans.
Not like that was a choice lmao
I HATED that moronic Rimmy Tim shit. (Fricking WHY)
At least Matt help with Let's plays in the background.
I would have honestly liked Trevor more early on, they could've brought Celeb or fricking lindsay more too
Caleb **
frick.
Matt and Ray are the only two I watch as streamers.
I love Ray, it kinda blows that he became a "Twitch Normie", that's not to say its bad but I miss the slight edgy raunchy humor of his.
I catch a stream or vod watch from time to time
At least he the to avoid streamer bait
I gained a new appreciation for Matt after he was laid off and started streaming full time. When he's no longer the designated punching bag he's actually really fricking funny
Ya, Matt was a good hire because that was the waning days of "Let's hire this dude, not keep him in the back of the office, and ya he may just do editing but he'll show up because he's a part of the company." Matt was a little too awkward for the screen, but back in that era they were right to hire someone like that if they were good and dependable for the company. We see where stopping that behavior got them.
Matt always could have found his flock as a nerd king streamer. Plus he's nothing but more alpha than the losers that stayed at wienerbite Looserville.
>Actually consistantly funny or entertaining
Gav, Geff, Single Micheal, Ryan, Bruce, adam, Lawrence, peake, jon smith
>Fine when not sperging out
Jeremy, jack, married Micheal, fiona, james, elyise, joel,
>Fine in small doses
alanah, pre-mom lindsay,
>Why even
Fredo. trev, post kids lindsay, michah, matt
I just wonder if anyone is going to acquire RWBY and continue where it left off or just start over from scratch.
I'll buy RWBY for $50 Bucks then make a Eroge game with the OG VAs with JLullaby styled art
>A whole lot of nonsensetalk
They legit did nothing that resulted in the current situation. That's not to say "they never did anything wrong" but they could've done all those things wrong and still ended up fricked.
The problem is the whole damn system that lets the likes of Zaslav axe things left and right that were poised to make a profit but not the profit he wanted. That's the world we live in now, you can do everything right and you'd still be fricked.
No anon, they confirmed they'd been operating at a net loss to the company for years and were still increasing their own budgets despite that. RT wasn't a random Zaslav write-off it was just on the chopping block.
You're moronic.
They became a serious company and stopped being a bunch of friends hanging out and making fun of Halo. As soon as they tried to do more dramatic story telling you could tell it was over. They became official so they officially had to play ball.
Telling their fans to "frick off" killed them socially.
Gen:Lock flopping killed them financially.
Anyway, here's the bitter boring reality no one seems to get.
Going woke? Doesn't matter.
Edgy shit behind the scenes? Doesn't matter.
An actual MeToo scandal? Doesn't matter.
It's been shown time and time again a competently run company can bounce back from all of these in a year or two just by rebranding or firing the relevant parties once the cat is out of the bag.
Animator scandals screwing them out of a work force and consistently irresponsibly managed finances? That's a bit harder because that actually destroys investor faith. Most companies who totally bounced back from something like that typically took half to a full decade to do so and often longer, RT were already in the red for both self and parent company so they didn't have that kind of time.
In the end, we can talk about all the controversies and mismanaged properties we want, but RTs real killer was just bad business decisions and corporate politics. The controversies probably did more to just keep it held down whenever they were trying to turn it around but even the extent of that is debatable because the MeToo/Racism allegations literally all came out near the end when they were still on the ground from the animation staff treatment scandal
Tl;dr Pay your workers well, or else.
Half that, half "assume your investors/parent company can and will get sick of your shit because your scandals are now their problem and every misfire puts you in their debt since they were the ones who financed said misfire."
I am wondering what kind of boardroom miracle worker kept convincing WB to give them bigger budgets
I don't know what went wrong business wise, but as a fan I went from watching them religiously from 2007-2016ish from age 9-18 to losing interest entirely as the letsplay formula grew stale, they were smart in having so many other ways to keep fans around, I still liked RWBY and Campcamp and their podcasts and the little roosters skits were good, but around the time they started acquiring other creators I realized my tastes had changed and RT wasn't good at keeping up with it in my experience, I found FH a lot better with their comedy, Cowchop was a lot closer to my age demographic and captured the Jackass/Twitch personality demo. And once RT's animation started to decline It was just over for me. The podcast felt like I was tuning in to rich people complain about unrelatable shit letsplay didn't make me laugh anymore and now here we are.
>2016
>age 18
anon please
See things like this always bum me out. It reminds me of a time when the internet was, for want of a better term, more renegade. People were freer to openly mock brands and celebrities and style of humor for good or bad had an uncensored freedom to it. Now it's all market focused and everyone needs to tow the line instead of being able to freely mock what we used to. Everyone is just a different flavor of shill.
Unironically gen:lock. RT could have survived (albeit in a reduced capacity) if not for that failure.