We do need to eat meat protein though. I was long time vegetarian and my physical and mental health suffered from it. There are amino acids in meat that maintain every aspect of a human'ss wellbeing. I'm open to synthetic meat that reproduces this, but corporations are too corrupt and full of third-world morons to deliver this. We need to kill industrial farming for now.
>We do need to eat meat protein though.
Russian/trumptard lies! You're completely healthy if you just consume carbs that are 90% water and contain B12 analogues chud!
You can gain protein from non-animal sources >amino acids
You can also gain complete proteins from non-animal sources. A peanut butter sandwich is a complete protein, so is rice and beans
>all protein is the same
truly amazing, the mind of someone who sees the complexities of life so one dimensional.
He doesn't realize that there are way more animo-acids in complex animal protein than there are in plant-based proteins. The reason that vegans and vegetarians age poorly is because there is something called "Carnosine".
>Literally almost 100,000 year of human evolution says the exact opposite
what part of evolution is spending hours of your day on an internet messageboard
and that's wrong. Evolution is wrong for making it taste good. Evolution is a lie. you MUST eat vegetables that taste like cardboard without 7+ spices, and take 20+ supplements made by international pharmaceutical corporations thats whats natural haha
Can you imagine if humans were hunted in the same way? Some chad thinks he’s getting a bootie call, rolls up at an apartment, and fricking Predator decloaks and rips out his spine. The world would be a better place if we were no longer the top of the food chain.
There literally isn’t >Don’t need to eat animals to survive >Reason why you eat animals is for pleasure (they’re tasty) >Need to kill animals and make them suffer for this
How is that different from torturing animals for fun?
>instead of supporting primary industry aka "the working class" aka "farmers" you should be bootlicking major pharmaceutical conglomerates
Its obvious who you're shilling for, frick off.
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Yes, because killing is wrong unless it’s strictly necessary for self-preservation. If you don’t agree with this you’re basically a psychopath, you should have zero problem with someone who kills stray animals for fun
Eating animals is not necessary. We can go vegan, and very easily supplement what nutritional benefits we don’t need
Your argument is nonsense. Because we live in a capitalistic society you will inevitably “shill” for someone, right now you’re basically shilling for the meat industry
So the concern should not be if we’re “shilling” for someone or not. It should be about what’s morally right.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>bro just take this experimental vaccine + these supplements >its all you need
christ almighty, mind broken shill.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Moral or not, animals that aren't immediately useful to humans will go extinct.
Enjoy regularly consuming big pharma pills and powders instead of actual food, surely that will be good for you in the long run am i rite
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
JUST EAT SUGAR AND CARBS ALL THE TIME CHUD, I PROMISE I AM NOT A SUGAR INDUSTRY SHILL. EATING 6 DONUTS A DAY COOKED IN SEED OILS IS HOW HUMANS WERE MEANT TO LIVE CHUD
B12 molecules from supplements are not the same B12 molecules you get from meat.
Same with protein. We do not process artificial foodstuffs as effectively or efficiently as natural foodstuffs, because we've evolved to eat meat and cuck vegans. We're carnivores and we need meat to develop, stay healthy and thrive. To say otherwise is the most disconnected and arrogant position you could take, the most privileged opinion that you could have. Shameful
2 weeks ago
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>molecules
kek
also b12 comes from the ground. you get it from eating dirt. humans don't eat dirty food anymore but the animals they eat do
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
We don’t need that much B12 to survive >muh bioavailability
Most modern supplement companies are already aware of this concern so they increase the dosage to compensate
Once again, we don’t need to eat animals to survive, so killing them is wrong. If you disagree you are a literal psychopath
2 weeks ago
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>bro just ignore nature and evolution >put 100% of your health in the hands of major pharma corporations
2 weeks ago
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>Survive
I'd rather people be strong and healthy.
Modern companies also employ child slave labor to protect their bottom line. So no, modern companies don't have the consumers best interests at heart and don't care. An entity devoted solely towards enriching the few is not at all concerned with ethics and morality.
I kill and eat my own food. I grew up in the Millennial Drought. I went hungry a lot because the land was barren. A big chunk of food I ate was rabbits I trapped and kangaroos my family shot. You're a frickwit and a disgustingly pampered little shit
B12 Deficiency, heart and cardiovascular disease, Vitamin K deficiency, poor immune function, mental health issues. All of these are attributed to high carb/vegetarian diets
who shouldn't eat animals though? There's countries where the land only sustains grazing. What do those countries do? Where do they get their food from? If their entire food supply comes from the fortunes and harvests of another nation, they are entirely reliant on that nation
I don't need to eat meat. I just want to. Well, technically humans need some nutrient s that are difficult to source without any meat,but that's not the point.
The species that are useful to humans will survive. No other creature will. None.
You are trying to convince individuals, but that's hopeless because populations are an unsolvable mass of of different preferences.
Dodos weren't worth domesticating, so they are now extinct. Every creature you are aware of is currently being judged on it's utility to humans. Creatures with nothing notable to offer humans will not survive. Instead of posting stupid shit to Cinemaphile, you should be breeding a wienerroach that is useful enough to humans to not be exterminated outside of a lab.
Graze your goats and chickens and such on land that can't be used for farming anyway. Zero carbon footprint, less animal suffering than them living wild, shit's as ethical as it gets. Way more ethical than eating corn.
>We don’t need to eat animals to survive
Maybe you don't, I do. I'd be miserable if I could only eat plants, it's a matter of mental health. Humans enjoy eating meat, it's mentally satisfying.
I don't get vegans.
I grew up in s-o-ybean farming country, do you know how many animals get slaughtered when farmer john starts up the combine and brings in the harvest? Birds will constantly dive bomb the combine trying to protect there nests, obviously a pointless gesture, they usually die along with there babies and there guts get mixed in with the beans. It's really just a bunny, bird, mouse holocaust every year all across the country, and vegans pretend they are compassionate because the animals they have massacred are smaller?
>I'm going to post as a psychopath to make my point
It's not like that at all. Many of us love animals and appreciate their lives. This is why we need to focus more on locally reputable sourced farms and people need to group up and buy our meat local, instead of paying corporations like walmart.
Cool, make that distinction beforehand then. You talked as if the average Joe Farmer is a psychopath and I took offense to that. You're a yuppie. I like feeding people. People eat because of me. My life has more meaning than yours.
>You talked as if the average Joe Farmer is a psychopath
No, you posted as if the farmer and consumers were. I get that you enjoy posting as an butthole on Cinemaphile for fun, but maybe it's time to kys.
Ruh roh boy, you're letting your contempt for the working man shine through.
My life has too much meaning for me to kill myself and I'm not a gutless vegan weakling so it ain't happening. Sowwie
You are literally eating an animal to survive when you eat a vegetable, you are just a bigot who decided to arbitrary list plants as separate from animals despite their root system being nearly identical to a circulatory system and an active nervous system that you conveniently dont mention
Have you ever actually considered how much of a racist you are
You jest, but this is still all very true. Just because plant life is extremely alien to our particular linage of lifeforms doesn't mean it's okay to start calling more to survive than ones that function more like us.
Why is that the only "discussion" people have is wheter to kill or not animals, when that is extremely low on the hierarchy of animal abuse, and killing animals may not even be a problem anyway.
Official list of animal abuse:
>1# Anons who are bringing animals from the street, or buying, or pretending to adopt them from craig's list ( like pic related) and then torture the animals at home, and never tell anyone so they are NEVER caught (not pic related) - majority of the most significant animal abuse happening in the world right now, and the one thing NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT??? Can you explain? >2# Few anons who torture animals in secret at home but then post online and get caught >3# Animals in mass meat industry farms that are put in situations where they feel constant physical pain (being in cages that are small where they are forced to rest over their broken limbs due to resting over them all the time ) >4# animals stressed out from being jailed for life >5# animals in the wild that have cancers and other conditions that cause them brutal pain, sometimes for years
Funny how nobody talks about #1 and #2 hu? Why could it be?
If humans are the same as animals why don't you morally police the carnivores who kill animals more brutally than any human?
If you admit that humans are superior to animals through our mental self-awareness, why are you even making this point for animals in the first place?
Story time >be me >young and moronic >also country moron >invited to a party where there was a blend of city slickers and country morons >Drink drank drunk >Bladder full so wander off for a piss >Spot baby bunny and catch it >Idea >Introduce the baby bunny to these city girls I was trying to chat up >They held it, patted it, fussed and awwed >They named it >I ask for it back and snap its back in front of them because it was gonna die anyways >All hell breaks lose >Confused >Monster! Psycho! >Start laughing uncontrollably >Situation calms and I keep drinking >I slept alone 🙁
No we don't but I'll keep doing it because it tastes good
We do need to eat meat protein though. I was long time vegetarian and my physical and mental health suffered from it. There are amino acids in meat that maintain every aspect of a human'ss wellbeing. I'm open to synthetic meat that reproduces this, but corporations are too corrupt and full of third-world morons to deliver this. We need to kill industrial farming for now.
>We do need to eat meat protein though.
Russian/trumptard lies! You're completely healthy if you just consume carbs that are 90% water and contain B12 analogues chud!
You can gain protein from non-animal sources
>amino acids
You can also gain complete proteins from non-animal sources. A peanut butter sandwich is a complete protein, so is rice and beans
>all protein is the same
truly amazing, the mind of someone who sees the complexities of life so one dimensional.
He doesn't realize that there are way more animo-acids in complex animal protein than there are in plant-based proteins. The reason that vegans and vegetarians age poorly is because there is something called "Carnosine".
I'm vegan, racist, and hate trannies.
But I want it to.
I'm okay with going vegan seeing how industrial meat industry is destroying the environment but are eggs considered vegan-friendly?
no
>We don’t need to eat animals to survive. This doesn’t need to happen.
Literally almost 100,000 year of human evolution says the exact opposite
Anything that's good for humans isn't considered vegan friendly.
>Literally almost 100,000 year of human evolution says the exact opposite
what part of evolution is spending hours of your day on an internet messageboard
They used to be called forums. And that's where people went to IRL shitpost.
Forums and usenets were nothing like anonymous imageboards, nothing.
>goalposting
>t. low test and immunodeficiency Vegan
ESL ESL ESL
Only if they're free range
they are so fricking tasty
and that's wrong. Evolution is wrong for making it taste good. Evolution is a lie. you MUST eat vegetables that taste like cardboard without 7+ spices, and take 20+ supplements made by international pharmaceutical corporations thats whats natural haha
I've killed elk in their prime just trying to get some pussy. Do you think I feel bad about some cow?
Can you imagine if humans were hunted in the same way? Some chad thinks he’s getting a bootie call, rolls up at an apartment, and fricking Predator decloaks and rips out his spine. The world would be a better place if we were no longer the top of the food chain.
Yeah Under the Skin is about that exactly
I think about it a lot
>cow gets an instant, painless death in the farm
or
>cow gets brutally torn apart by a pack of wolves or a bear in the wilderness
>We don’t need to eat animals to survive
Yes you literally do.
If you don't eat animals or animal products then you NEED to regularly consume supplements like B12 just to survive.
I agree, we need to go back to majority land ownership and people owning their own livestock
>OWNING THINGS IS BAD
>JUST EAT BUGS AND PAY $3000 A MONTH FOR AN ELECTRIC CAR
There is no way to defend eating animals while living in a developed country, without also defending torturing animals for fun
truly amazing, the mind of a child
There literally isn’t
>Don’t need to eat animals to survive
>Reason why you eat animals is for pleasure (they’re tasty)
>Need to kill animals and make them suffer for this
How is that different from torturing animals for fun?
>Don’t need to eat animals to survive
Yes you do, otherwise you're B12 deficient
…and then you take a B12 supplement which is easy to acquire in the developed world
Again, not necessary to survive
>instead of supporting primary industry aka "the working class" aka "farmers" you should be bootlicking major pharmaceutical conglomerates
Its obvious who you're shilling for, frick off.
Yes, because killing is wrong unless it’s strictly necessary for self-preservation. If you don’t agree with this you’re basically a psychopath, you should have zero problem with someone who kills stray animals for fun
Eating animals is not necessary. We can go vegan, and very easily supplement what nutritional benefits we don’t need
Your argument is nonsense. Because we live in a capitalistic society you will inevitably “shill” for someone, right now you’re basically shilling for the meat industry
So the concern should not be if we’re “shilling” for someone or not. It should be about what’s morally right.
>bro just take this experimental vaccine + these supplements
>its all you need
christ almighty, mind broken shill.
Moral or not, animals that aren't immediately useful to humans will go extinct.
Enjoy regularly consuming big pharma pills and powders instead of actual food, surely that will be good for you in the long run am i rite
JUST EAT SUGAR AND CARBS ALL THE TIME CHUD, I PROMISE I AM NOT A SUGAR INDUSTRY SHILL. EATING 6 DONUTS A DAY COOKED IN SEED OILS IS HOW HUMANS WERE MEANT TO LIVE CHUD
B12 molecules from supplements are not the same B12 molecules you get from meat.
Same with protein. We do not process artificial foodstuffs as effectively or efficiently as natural foodstuffs, because we've evolved to eat meat and cuck vegans. We're carnivores and we need meat to develop, stay healthy and thrive. To say otherwise is the most disconnected and arrogant position you could take, the most privileged opinion that you could have. Shameful
>molecules
kek
also b12 comes from the ground. you get it from eating dirt. humans don't eat dirty food anymore but the animals they eat do
We don’t need that much B12 to survive
>muh bioavailability
Most modern supplement companies are already aware of this concern so they increase the dosage to compensate
Once again, we don’t need to eat animals to survive, so killing them is wrong. If you disagree you are a literal psychopath
>bro just ignore nature and evolution
>put 100% of your health in the hands of major pharma corporations
>Survive
I'd rather people be strong and healthy.
Modern companies also employ child slave labor to protect their bottom line. So no, modern companies don't have the consumers best interests at heart and don't care. An entity devoted solely towards enriching the few is not at all concerned with ethics and morality.
I kill and eat my own food. I grew up in the Millennial Drought. I went hungry a lot because the land was barren. A big chunk of food I ate was rabbits I trapped and kangaroos my family shot. You're a frickwit and a disgustingly pampered little shit
B12 Deficiency, heart and cardiovascular disease, Vitamin K deficiency, poor immune function, mental health issues. All of these are attributed to high carb/vegetarian diets
>eating animal meat is purely for the taste
honestly, what cult do you belong to that you havent ever heard of the word "nutrition"
you sound like the nobles telling peasants their gruel is fine
That's what they are. Meat is for the elites only, you'll eat slop and grain and be entertained by garbage tv shows like a good pleb
>Don't eat the meat! Eat the High Fructose Corn Syrup! It's ORGANIC! Don't worry about the obesity epidemic, it's all just genetics!!
who shouldn't eat animals though? There's countries where the land only sustains grazing. What do those countries do? Where do they get their food from? If their entire food supply comes from the fortunes and harvests of another nation, they are entirely reliant on that nation
Truth is, if we didn't eat them they wouldn't even exist. 96% of mammal biomass is humans and farm animals. All other mammals are only 4%.
let's eat the vegans, amirite people? hehe...
I don't need to eat meat. I just want to. Well, technically humans need some nutrient s that are difficult to source without any meat,but that's not the point.
The species that are useful to humans will survive. No other creature will. None.
You are trying to convince individuals, but that's hopeless because populations are an unsolvable mass of of different preferences.
Dodos weren't worth domesticating, so they are now extinct. Every creature you are aware of is currently being judged on it's utility to humans. Creatures with nothing notable to offer humans will not survive. Instead of posting stupid shit to Cinemaphile, you should be breeding a wienerroach that is useful enough to humans to not be exterminated outside of a lab.
Goddamn reddit spacing.
>I don't need to eat meat.
You do, Your ancestors all had primarily animal based diets, thats how you got here
You actually don't need plants.
Except as food for your meat, of course.
Graze your goats and chickens and such on land that can't be used for farming anyway. Zero carbon footprint, less animal suffering than them living wild, shit's as ethical as it gets. Way more ethical than eating corn.
I more or less agree but good luck convincing people of that
>We don’t need to eat animals to survive
Maybe you don't, I do. I'd be miserable if I could only eat plants, it's a matter of mental health. Humans enjoy eating meat, it's mentally satisfying.
I don't get vegans.
I grew up in s-o-ybean farming country, do you know how many animals get slaughtered when farmer john starts up the combine and brings in the harvest? Birds will constantly dive bomb the combine trying to protect there nests, obviously a pointless gesture, they usually die along with there babies and there guts get mixed in with the beans. It's really just a bunny, bird, mouse holocaust every year all across the country, and vegans pretend they are compassionate because the animals they have massacred are smaller?
ummmmm
Me red blooded male fueled by blood of innocent food. Me eat me frick me happy
>thinly veiled /tvol/ thread
vgh...
I like these threads, because its obvious all vegans and vegetarians are mentally ill
>I'm going to post as a psychopath to make my point
It's not like that at all. Many of us love animals and appreciate their lives. This is why we need to focus more on locally reputable sourced farms and people need to group up and buy our meat local, instead of paying corporations like walmart.
Cool, make that distinction beforehand then. You talked as if the average Joe Farmer is a psychopath and I took offense to that. You're a yuppie. I like feeding people. People eat because of me. My life has more meaning than yours.
>You talked as if the average Joe Farmer is a psychopath
No, you posted as if the farmer and consumers were. I get that you enjoy posting as an butthole on Cinemaphile for fun, but maybe it's time to kys.
Ruh roh boy, you're letting your contempt for the working man shine through.
My life has too much meaning for me to kill myself and I'm not a gutless vegan weakling so it ain't happening. Sowwie
You are literally eating an animal to survive when you eat a vegetable, you are just a bigot who decided to arbitrary list plants as separate from animals despite their root system being nearly identical to a circulatory system and an active nervous system that you conveniently dont mention
Have you ever actually considered how much of a racist you are
You jest, but this is still all very true. Just because plant life is extremely alien to our particular linage of lifeforms doesn't mean it's okay to start calling more to survive than ones that function more like us.
*to start eating more of them to
Why is that the only "discussion" people have is wheter to kill or not animals, when that is extremely low on the hierarchy of animal abuse, and killing animals may not even be a problem anyway.
Official list of animal abuse:
>1# Anons who are bringing animals from the street, or buying, or pretending to adopt them from craig's list ( like pic related) and then torture the animals at home, and never tell anyone so they are NEVER caught (not pic related) - majority of the most significant animal abuse happening in the world right now, and the one thing NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT??? Can you explain?
>2# Few anons who torture animals in secret at home but then post online and get caught
>3# Animals in mass meat industry farms that are put in situations where they feel constant physical pain (being in cages that are small where they are forced to rest over their broken limbs due to resting over them all the time )
>4# animals stressed out from being jailed for life
>5# animals in the wild that have cancers and other conditions that cause them brutal pain, sometimes for years
Funny how nobody talks about #1 and #2 hu? Why could it be?
Don’t really care. Doesn’t really matter. Still gonna eat em.
If humans are the same as animals why don't you morally police the carnivores who kill animals more brutally than any human?
If you admit that humans are superior to animals through our mental self-awareness, why are you even making this point for animals in the first place?
Life feeds on life feeds on life this is necessary
Story time
>be me
>young and moronic
>also country moron
>invited to a party where there was a blend of city slickers and country morons
>Drink drank drunk
>Bladder full so wander off for a piss
>Spot baby bunny and catch it
>Idea
>Introduce the baby bunny to these city girls I was trying to chat up
>They held it, patted it, fussed and awwed
>They named it
>I ask for it back and snap its back in front of them because it was gonna die anyways
>All hell breaks lose
>Confused
>Monster! Psycho!
>Start laughing uncontrollably
>Situation calms and I keep drinking
>I slept alone 🙁
I learned the hard way that babby bunnies just fricking die if they're alone and you pick them up
worst day of my 12 year old life