What do you think about this Cinemaphile? its a good or a bad thing?
>The hottest package at this year’s Cannes Film Festival stars a 76-year old action star and is a reboot of a movie that first dazzled moviegoers in 1993. That’s a time, in case you forgot, before TikTok or smartphones, Facebook or Amazon, or any number of technological changes that have reshaped our world and the movie business along with them.
>And yet, “Cliffhanger,” with Sylvester Stallone bravely summiting the mountain again, is seen as one of the most commercial scripts out there for buyers hoping to make an adventure film that can traverse borders and bring crowds. With a nod to the younger audiences who will be needed to turn up if the movie is going to replicate the original’s blockbuster status, the producers teased that casting is currently underway for a (presumably younger?) actor to share the screen with Sly. But who will that be?
>“Over the last 10 years, we’ve done a really shitty job of creating a new generation of movie stars,” groused one sales agent.
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Let me put this very simply: There are no good young actors.
When you load every movie up with nepotism hires yeah you'll produce talentless garbage everywhere. How many new actors are coming into major productions off the street anymore? But this a good thing imo, entertainers have always been treated as low class trash in all healthy societies.
This is true but the collapse happened with social media making everyone more accessible.
The shear amount of effort you'd have had to put in in say 1970 to tell an actor they were shit, send a letter, have it get past screens, have the person actually read it, verus thirty seconds to send a message directly to someones phone.
Killed all the mystery behind stars and specifically humanized them.
This. And all the "leading men" they are trying to shoehorn in are metrosexual twinks like Chalamet and that fricking spiderman kid.
there are some. Pugh, Chalamet (hate them all you want, they're good), Keoghan, George MacKay (tho he's a little older), the guy who played Charles in The Crown
>Pugh
A cute
>Chalamet
A relentlessly handsome man
>Pugh - Fat and ugly
>Chalamet - Borderline troony and homosexual
>Chalamet
This must be bait. He is King nepobaby in hollywood, who not so much as does bad acting as no acting. In Henry V he mumbled his way through the entire film and had one expression through almost the whole movie.
don't know them don't care
They just hire all the kids they want to have sex with, and israelites love the idea of transhumanism, to the closest they can get is mixing with Blacks and other undesirables.
Jews love ugly and israelites love filth.
what the frick are you talking about
I think Tim Cham is talented, though it looks like he blew it in Wonka.
That's because they drove white people out of the industry.
i'm pretty good
Do you need to take it up the ass to get roles? Or are the producers happy with a little sloppy toppy?
Feels like it's hard to break in these days.
i don't act, i just think i'm pretty good
There's plenty of actors, and actresses that can act well, the problem is they're not appealing to anyone. A bunch of twinks, and plastic surgery gone wrong freaks. Sex appeal matters. Give a part to PewDiePie in the next marvelslop, couple him with a hottie in slave leia bikini, and you will reap billions. But, no, they will cast Benedict fricking Cumberbatch straight out of Hamlet just to have him shamed.
There has never been a good actor in history, because they all of them appear in shitty movies and have a bad performance. How could that be if they're supposedly a good actor?
>it's the director's, studios', producer's screenplay, writer's, fans' fault
>never the actor's
What
Cucumberman is a good actor but Hollywood overused him and didn't exactly cast him in the proper roles
in fact they're insufferable
Young Americans just aren't good at anything worthwhile. Sadly humans are products of their environments and the recent generation of Americans have been immersed in weak homosexualry since birth.
>>And a look at some of the projects on offer or premiering at Cannes seems to bolster that argument. There’s “Breakout,” an action-thriller featuring 75-year old Arnold Schwarzenegger that will be directed by “Expendables 4” filmmaker Scott Waugh; “Lords of War” with 59-year old Nicolas Cage returning to a role as an amoral arms dealer that he first played nearly two decades ago; “That’s Amore,” a rom-com with a 69-year old John Travolta; and “The Rivals of Amziah King,” a crime story featuring a 53-year old Matthew McConaughey. In most cases, these actors have been famous, globally so, since the 1970s or ’80s (McConaughey, a relatively newbie, had to wait until 1996’s “A Time to Kill” to make his mark).
>On Thursday night, the increasingly geriatric nature of the star system was on full display at the Cannes Film Festival as an 80-year old Harrison Ford walked the red carpet for the premiere of “Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny,” for which he donned the fedora he first wore in 1981’s “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” and is still well-preserved enough to unabashedly doff his top (“I’ve been blessed with this body,” he said sheepishly when asked about his shirtless scene at a press conference). Ford does get an assist from some of those technological breakthroughs, appearing 35 years younger in key scenes thanks to the magic of de-aging CGI.
>So why hasn’t there been a flowering of new A-listers to rival the Fords, Schwarzeneggers and Stallones of yesteryear? Protagonist Pictures COO George Hamilton points to the collapse of the DVD business in 2008 as the moment when Hollywood stopped being able to reliably make movie stars.
>“Nearly all of the actors and actresses who are [bankable] now had very successful films when DVD and video was still a huge force,” said Hamilton, who is selling several films at the festival including Polly Findlay’s debut feature “Midwinter Break,” starring Lesley Manville (“Phantom Thread”) and Ciarán Hinds (“Belfast”). “You could see that as a dividing line shift in terms of older or newer generation. With the new generation, there’s more divisions between success because you could have the most-watched show or film on a streamer. But there might be a whole swath of society who might not subscribe, and they’re not part of that.”
>n 2008, just as DVD sales began its death spiral, the first “Twilight” movie debuted, and the franchise’s next-gen stars became the centerpiece of market packages for years to come. But nearly all of those packages ultimately fizzled in the marketplace. Today, only Robert Pattinson, 37, could carry a big-budget package to the goal line on his name alone at a market like Cannes, and only because he because of his combination of box office credentials (“The Batman”) and critically acclaimed indie performances (“Good Time”). Kristen Stewart has earned critical raves in films such as “Spencer,” but hasn’t been as focused on tentpole adventures.
>“Obviously, the ‘Twilight’ IP was the star there,” said director-producer Aaron Kaufman, who has worked with a number of alums from the vampire-human love story. “The shift to promoting IP over stars may have sounded like a good idea because IP doesn’t overdose or tweet about Nazis. However, this shift has left the cupboard bare when it comes to next-generation stars. This is an issue now that the IP stores have been cleaned out and all that’s left is Tube-Sock Man or whatever Marvel has yet to make.”
>The most promising members of the up-and-coming A-list set often need to check multiple boxes like a Sydney Sweeney, 25, who boasts not one, but two talked-about series with “The White Lotus” and “Euphoria” as well as superhero cred via her starring role in the upcoming “Madame Web,” a spinoff in Sony’s “Spider-Man” franchise.
>“There’s much, much, much less people in that younger age bracket who are household names by virtue of the way in which their films or TV have reached audiences because of streaming,” Hamilton added. “So, you have to maximize the value of the new generation of stars and really ensure that there is clarity of concept, clarity on genre, really knowing who the audience is so you can really appeal to distributors.”
>Meanwhile, the sales agent thinks that some of shrinking movie star phenomenon has to do with the longterm contracts that rising actors like Tom Holland (26), Chris Hemsworth (39) and their ilk have signed to appear in Marvel movies. Others such as Ryan Gosling, 42, have been inconsistent at the global box office despite commanding passionate followings, while Timothée Chalamet, 27, scored with “Dune” but remains something of an untried commodity. Michael B. Jordan, 36, has two franchises under his belt with “Black Panther” and “Creed,” but it remains to be seen whether he can carry a film without well-known IP. Likewise, Jennifer Lawrence, 32, will face a huge test with regards to her bankability with the upcoming R-rated comedy “No Hard Feelings.” Post-“Hunger Games” she was a huge draw, but has not been as active on screen in recent years.
>But the agent also believes that streaming services don’t know how to apply the right amount of varnish on promising talents, in part because the movies that debut on Netflix or Prime Video don’t have the kind of massive global marketing campaigns that accompany major theatrical releases.
>“We used to treat our movie stars like gods,” the agent said. “But the marketing of these streaming movies is so limited that it doesn’t really create stars. Actors aren’t burned into the minds like they once were, and they don’t have this larger-than-life image any longer.”
Link: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hollywood-grapples-lack-of-young-movie-stars-harrison-ford-sylvester-stallone-1235619757/
So, what do you think Cinemaphile?
I think I'm looking very much forward to Hollywood getting more and more desperate as their products continue to fail.
i really wonder if this is over for real, indifference is what killed a product,and hollywood is getting ton's of that laterally
I think we haven't seen the worst of it. Culture moves at a breakneck pace now because of the internet, and everything is as a result more disposable. Younger generations live half their lives online, and there's so much media to consume there that movies don't have nearly the impact they used to. And soon they could have AI to worry about. I'm excited to see how bad it'll get.
We're not going to experience a major collapse. Instead what's happening is the industry is seeing lower returns on investments, so they're just going to invest less and less. The industry will shrink down to a dwarf form of itself, and never grow again to what it once was.
Kind of like a STAR
Actually a pretty interesting and well written article, frames the problem well - thanks OP
>false idols fading out
>MUH STRIKE
>eventually will get replaced by AI
Aww maybe Babylon was truly a cry for help.
False idols upset at being usurped by other false idols.
How so? Didn't watch it.
>studios cash into the next big thing and forget silent movie stars who become aged and mocked by audiences to the point they degenerate over and even literally die
>mc leaves the shitfest that is Hollywood to live an honest life
They literally intentionally broke star power to prevent actors having too much hold over studios.
Well they fricked that up, Jenna Ortega's online following is the only reason she still has a career
>They literally intentionally broke star power to prevent actors having too much hold over studios.
this is true and i dont know why people dont talk about it more even though its so obvious
they didnt want more robert downey jrs. some washed up actor they got who turned big and forced the studios to be paying im 100million+ plus a movie along with whatever pull he had. not that that makes for bad movies, but im sure it grinds the gears of power hungry israelites
they wanted people to like marvel, not the actors in marvel movies.
>they wanted people to like marvel, not the actors in marvel movies
Wild that they continue to fail on both counts
>fail
Is that why Marvel flicks have consistently been the highest grossing box office blockbusters over the past decade+?
There have been stumbles recently, but I don't see anything else doing better.
>Lord of War 2 confirmed
Holy shit I didn’t hear about this
Actors are moronic prostitutes, frick them and frick Hollywood.
Didn't ask
And that's a good thing!
This. They are literal prostitutes and mouth pieces for the whims of the wealthy. They don't deserve the wealth and influence they have amassed so far.
Frick boomers and their idolatry.
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Best post ITT. Honestly actors are usually the biggest setback on any production
>big ego
>midwits or emotional morons usually
>always want to take full credit
>circlejerks other actors but acts like a gatekeeper towards everyone
>always liberal
has nothing to do with dvds, and everything to do with casting, scripts, plots, globohomo, pozzing, no innovation in the medium, etc. Movies should b more interactive these days, nobody want's to sit and watch some boring movie that we've seen 100 times for 2.5 hours. Also they should be casting nothing but tiktok stars for zoomers.
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Based.
Death to the fame-seeker; blasphemer of God.
>boomers never advance anyone in any line of work and never retire
hurrrr why no young people to take over my position
hollywood relies to much on IP and killed off home video market, movie stars can't be a thing anymore
sure thing boomer
the thing is, they were never gods, they're court jesters.
And they should be treated like garbage. They're lower than prostitutes, lower than telemarketers
Just like they should be, as it used to be.
Brando said he'd rather someone just tossed a bag of cash over his fence every month.
i.e. I'm the god here.
If you thirst for fame and attention now, being an "influencer" is much more attainable and alluring.
this
you don't need to suck harv's gangrenous dick to get famous any more, so only little kids literally being pimped out by their parents even start going down the hollywood pipeline, and surprise surprise they all turn out to be deranged freaks that most people wouldn't feel comfortable sharing a bus with, let alone worship
i hate ecelebs and simps so fricking much it's unreal
Social media killed the mystique of the movie star.
There is only one God you stupid pagan homosexual and it isn't Indiana Jones.
it's a metaphor tho
>There is only one God
Allah?
Michael Jackson
It's a very good thing, you shouldn't worship actors or anyone really.
>“Over the last 10 years, we’ve done a really shitty job of creating a new generation of movie stars,” groused one sales agent.
>Shia LaBeuf
>Seth Rogan
>Michael Cera
>Taylor Lautner
>the Napoleon Dynamite guy
>Jennifer Lopez
>the girl who played Ariel in The Little Mermaid remake
I don't think Hollywood is even trying to make new movie stars.
>I don't think Hollywood is even trying to make new movie stars.
Pretty much the case
Pretty much. You don't want to build your studio off of one star and then see him jump ship to a rival studio after all the time and money they invested.
Same thing is happening to new directors.
>I don't think Hollywood is even trying to make new movie stars.
They're not. They want the brand to be the star. Disney, Marvel, DC, etc.
This, corporations got jealous that simple men had better reputation than them and were actually a life guidance for the common folk.
>Jennifer Lopez
What? She is from a totally different generation.
If you are an actor and want to be a movie star the best thing you can do is not use social media. You have to be someone that people can only see when they go to the movies. The more influencer shit you do the more you hurt your brand as a movie star. It's not that fricking hard.
good luck getting any sort of roles whatsoever
they cast based on number of instagram/tiktok follows at this point
how many followers does Sarah Gadon have?
I dunno, but seeing as how she's only got one (deranged) fan on this site, I'm guessig not many.
Frick movie stars
Bunch of ungrateful spiteful homosexuals
whats it matter?
now audiences will have the option of experiencing a wide range of actors in different roles, not just the same few in rotation
>We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods
No we fricking didn't. We were excited to see them work, and excited to meet them at conventions and what-have-you. There was no awed sense of deference like this butthole is implying.
I hate actors with burning passion, but you are massively coping if you think they weren't treated like gods.
You JUST had one gunning someone down on the set and get out of it completely free.
Are you autistic?
they used to be a physical embodiment of a psychosexual fantasy
The babushka's in 200 person towns in butfrick eastern europe knew the mega actors of the west during the Cold War. Since the 60s actors kinda replaced royalty as the thing housewifes talked about. Now its not so.
>conventions
Sci-Fi isn't cinema, it's just for nerds to have a shared cultural experience so they can feel like they're part of something.
Without it, autismos would neck themselves but it's more effective to give them media that paints pushing squares and crunching numbers in a good light so they feel satisfied with their banal jobs.
seemed like a number of celebs were held in high regard back in the day before the internet took off. you even had the media trying to push people like angelina jolie to run for office. social media finally killed the hype around the movie celeb
>all young actors are either twinks for israelites to rape, prostitutes for israelites to rape, talentless nepo baby israelites, or talentless MUH DIVERSITY shitskins
>WHY DOES NOBODY WANT TO WATCH OUR MOVIES ANYMORE?!?!?!?!?!?
lol
i think they know that already and that's why they move on to trying to make them huge stars
>We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods’
social media exposed all of them as deranged, narcissistic, idiotic homosexuals (and that's a good thing)
in older times actors were treated as lesser than prostitutes and rightfully so.
these shapesifting subhumans make a living by pretending to be something or somebody else - a most disinguous ad despicable trait in humans.
unironically frick actors. I seriously hope A.I. will replace these self-absorbed, ivory tower shitting, holier-than-though attention whoring, insanely overpaid parasites.
Holy based. AI replacing these actors is too kino for me to handle
The A.I takeover can't happen fast enough.
You know what's the best part of AI? They don't parrot or scream moronic lib politics on social media and irl
back then
>jennifer connelly and claudia schiffer
now
>zendaya and that fat b***h pugh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheatricality
The Restoration ushered in the first appearance of the casting couch in English social history. Most actresses were poorly paid and needed to supplement their income in other ways. Of the eighty women who appeared on the Restoration stage, twelve enjoyed an ongoing reputation as courtesans, being maintained by rich admirers of rank (including the King); at least another twelve left the stage to become 'kept women' or prostitutes. It was generally assumed that thirty of the women who had brief stage careers came from the brothels and had later returned to them. About a quarter of the actresses were considered to live respectable lives, most being married to fellow actors.[22]
Fraser reports that 'by the 1670s a respectable woman could not give her profession as "Actoress" and expect to keep either her reputation or her person intact...
The only ""Young"" movie star is Chris Pratt and hes fricking 44 years old
Hollywood seems to be pushing Tom Holland, Zendaya, Timothée Chalamet and Pattinson but not of them have any actual pull
From all of those, I think only Robert Pattinson has a chance to become a big thing. And that's only because I have the feeling he is following DiCaprio's manual of how to transition from a pretty face into an all-rounder actor.
things I know about Tom Holland
1. he was in a spiderman movie no one saw
2. reverse buck broken
>he was in a spiderman movie no one saw
you are being dumb anon, i dont care for marvel stuff but the last spiderman movie made almost 2 billion dollars and is the 6th highest grossing movie of all time. people clearly watched it.
they are all nepo scum and not selected by the studios for talent or looks
based qwerty made a list exposing 90 percent of them as just fugly nepo babies and he got banned off imdb for it
hollywood star worship was always peak brainwashing
If you're a talentless actor, all you are is someone in an unskilled position that a lot of people are willing to do. Why would you command any respect?
Want respect? Be talented
Streaming has been a catastrophe for Hollywood
>too much mediocre content has been produced and forgotten
>it has been a money sink in search of market dominance, but has never produced money
>now the market is fragmented and audiences only care about event movies, but those need giant budgets and barely give profit
lack of young stars is an afterthough of distribution collapse
>Streaming has been a catastrophe for Hollywood
This, unironically.
Hollywood is also competing with a modern society full of people with attention spans of goldfish. They love streaming so they can watch shows in fragments and at double the speed. If you're blitzing through content just to see what happens, does it matter if the actors have any real talent? If the audience cannot handle sitting still for an hour or two, is it worth it trying to create 2+-hour blockbusters?
i mean, my little brother say he only watch anime cuz is 20~ minutes long per episode, he can't stand 2 hour and a half movies hollywood is making all the time now.
>he only watch anime cuz is 20~ minutes long per episode
>still have to watch +100 episodes to get the full story
I don't get it, and that's exactly why I dropped all anime. And the fact that they never adapted complete works and all shows were just glorified ads, anyway.
Because it's bite sized, you don't have to watch it all at once. I usually watch an episode or two per day with dinner and it's pretty comfy.
It's weird that blockbusters have only gotten longer as audience attention spans have shrunk. Where did the 90 minute summer flick go?
left with $3 tickets and $1.50 popcorn
We just treat e-celebs the way we used to treat actors now, so nothing's particularly changed besides the talent of the worshipped and the level of access they're willing to give the public.
People are over movie stars now because they demand a modicum of privacy, whereas youtube and streaming personalities give theirs away as part of the bargain.
not on the same level
you're comparing some random bawd with an Instagram filter with an actor/ actress which had production of hundred of millions of dollars built around them
the shelf life of an e-celeb is extremely brief
No, I'm comparing a youtuber with millions of followers to movie stars.
Yes, they're niche and most of their audiences are smaller, but it's largely the same phenomena. Ask a young family member about their favorite youtubers and they'll probably be able to rattle off more names and know more about them than the movie stars that appear in marvel movies (because let's be honest, those are probably the only ones kids know now).
can't stand two hour movies but will binge watch 10 20 minute episodes
>largely the same phenomena
they have a very different appeal
you can imagine yourself drinking some beers with your favourite youtuber
you cant imagine yourself meeting Marilyn Monroe, for example, because "Marilyn Monroe" is not even real; she's a hyperreal fantasy for the mass audience
a niche youtuber cannot compete in the same league
Are you saying it's just a coincidence that movie stars became less important to the culture at the same time as the youtuber rose in prominence?
Maybe you can imagine having beers with your favorite youtuber, but it's still just a fantasy para-social relationship.
>it's still just a fantasy para-social relationship.
sure
like I said. different appeal
but I think that a sexual fantasy can live a very long time, a para-social relationship not really
>We just treat e-celebs the way we used to treat actors now
eh, not really, most of them are know on their niches and dosen't really need to live in gated communities like super hollywood stars used to be, also they are exposed to the public a lot more than old time celebs, so they need to be a lot more careful on what they say.
Would love to see glen powell take up the sly role
>“Over the last 10 years, we’ve done a really shitty job of creating a new generation of movie stars,” groused one sales agent.
Because all "actors" today are either talentless nepobabies or butt ugly blacks.
The only star there is Fox. 2011 was only "we need only ladeh on screen" but she has no charisma.
The ones that follow are even worse up to the laughable 2023
Rising of Beasts, all right.
With social media the allure was lost and everyone could see they were morons with basic opinions.
Most actors and actresses these days are ugly as frick and films are miscast. Who's left in film that anyone aspires to be like? The men are all effeminite borderline trannies or actual homosexuals. The women are all tattooed classess fat and ugly. Then they miscast films. Mass Effect is going to have Jennifer Lawrence as Shephard, A boys film with a character they cant even identify with????? The little mermaid had a hideously ugly miscast that looked nothing like the character that kids saw in the cartoon.
Then we have their political opinions which put people right off, They just need to shut their mouths an appeal to everyone. The studios and actors have both conspired to destroy the star system, they've only got themselves to blame.
They thought they could make whoever they want be a star, not the people audiences wanted to watch,
and letting movie stars have social media was a mistake. The less we knew about them the more we liked them.
Unironically it was better when israeli producers were commanded to sit them down
Doesn't help the fact you have the star of spider man doing gay softcore porn on screen
a lot of reasons
in the past actors kept their opinions to themselves nor did they ever try to act like their opinion was in any way authoritative. it's like you're fricking actors, nobody cares.
what young actors are glamorous anymore? Zendaya is held up as some kind of beauty but seriously? I'm not even trying to make this a race thing because back in the day the black girls they used to show in film were way more attractive.
Hollywood has no young stars because there are no leading males. you have twinks but sorry nobody is buying that a bottom can be some kind of bad ass. it isn't like there isn't any young beautiful women but those roles are going to middle aged bogged women or body positive homunculoids
>in the past actors kept their opinions to themselves
This hasn't been true since the studio system, and even then, movie stars became the government's mouthpiece during WW2 and we elected a movie star as president in the 80's.
>in the past actors kept their opinions to themselves nor did they ever try to act like their opinion was in any way authoritative. it's like you're fricking actors, nobody cares.
No they didn't. Plenty of actors have been outspoken from the very beginning of Hollywood.
Actors used to be normal or interesting people who got picked out, now it's middle class people from acting schools pushed by sucking hollywood dick.
Actors also feel their sheltered lifestyle allows them to talk down to people and lecture on politics.
There is also no mystique of some tard rambling on twitter. Social media is cancer but it killed celebrities.
They should be able to make more stars with internet sales. The fact they haven’t means that their products suck.
By movie stars he means israelites. israelite boomers are the worst
Social media killed movie stars. Super stars exist but it's Logan Paul etc.
Social media took all the mystique away from actors. People see/hear from them too much outside of their movies.
>We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods
How is that a good thing? Why is worshipping a person who only value in this world is pretending to be something else a good thing?
>How is that a good thing? Why is worshipping a person who only value in this world is pretending to be something else a good thing?
It's just the natural outcome of societies that killed kings and abandoned religion. Doesn't matter "left" or "right". Commies get dictators and politburos, and capitalists get israelites and prostitutes, all larping as gods and royalty.
>It's just the natural outcome of societies that killed kings and abandoned religion
You say this as if the divine right of kings isn't an even more ridiculous concept.
Just look at the worlds remaining constitutional monarchies and imagine them with actual power.
>You say this as if the divine right of kings isn't an even more ridiculous concept.
You don't need divine right - it can work in tandem with a parliament and advisors and ideally, their families as role models for the rest of society's families too. But an element of mysticism should stick to make it worth looking up to at least. Something larger than life. Especially compared to the joke of celebrity now.
>their families as role models for the rest of society's families
All the royals are decadent degenerates.
So what? They're going to worship SOMETHING, that's the point.
>They're going to worship SOMETHING
They should start worshipping scientists and engineers. The ones actually doing something worth a shit.
>start worshipping scientists and engineers
No, no they should absolutely not. Worship is antithetical to science.
I only took issue with the nostalgia for monarchy, especially how it was seemingly presented as a more rational form of celebrity worship.
>How is that a good thing?
He never actually said it was a good thing. He's saying that's just how it was in the past, but that's not the case anymore.
>NOOOOOO WHY WON'T PEOPLE WORSHIP US FOR DANCING AND SINGING IN PICTURES FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
Very few modern actors can dance and sing. If they could they'd probably be respected more.
Those are the biggest theater homosexuals (see Hugh Jackman).
Young people care more about social media stars than actors or singers.
Henry Cavill and sly Stallone
Sly is old and Cavill is borderline harassed.
>“Over the last 10 years, we’ve done a really shitty job of creating a new generation of movie stars,” groused one sales agent.
weird it's almost like in this gay moronic feminized society, white men are expected to grovel and apologize for existing all the time or something
I prefer actors who play their parts instead of what we have now which is actors who play themselves playing the part. I don’t really even blame the actors I think directors are just afraid of putting these pawns in their place.
I am very tired of dicksucking famous people
no one cares about these nepo babies
they aren't even good looking anymore
its not just the stars
the quality of supporting actors has taken a nosedive as well
>We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods
Remember when they flew Harrison Ford out to present an Oscar to someone who'd fled the country due to child rape charges?
Suck my dick hollywood you had your time in the sun now die quick and let real media win
>real media win
Podcasts?
>real media
>it's just zoomers interacting with their preteen audiences while playing roblox and occasionally taking a break to shill some new energy drink as the donations from mom and dads' credit cards roll in
Yep, I'm glad the new media is winning.
>We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods’
And that was a mistake.
We should go back to how the Romans treated actors.
I think what used to define star power is that movies stars used to basically stick to the genres that more or less defined their careers. If a movie had Bruce Willis, Stallone, or Schwarzenegger in it you know what you were getting without knowing anything about the movie. Most action movies starred the same people, most romance movies starred the same people, most thrillers starred the same people. That doesn't really happen anymore. The young stars nowadays want their careers to not be defined by anything.l One moment you're seeing them playing a superhero, and the next they're getting ass fricked in a gritty drama and nobody knows what to think when you hear their names.
Granted a big issue is also how huge franchises have become when you're playing the exact same characters in every movie. In the old days they would make movies that were thematically similar to other movies, but were still different enough that the stars don't get tired of them and sometimes branching into different genres when you're known for action movies for instance would be an interesting career development.
I wish we could go back to this days instead of Zoomers treating every sleazy ass politician like fricking celebrities.
>OMG did you see how AOC clap backed at MTG?
No, I don’t live their districts and I don’t fricking care.
Thanks to social media, any schmuck and Joe and go online and see their favorite celebrity is a liberal hypocritical moron.
>We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods’
Becaue now people treat corporations like Gods.
Pfizer. Marvel. Disney. Democratic Party.
These are the new Gods. Not Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt. It's Apple. Amazon. Netflix.
>Becaue now people treat corporations like Gods
And billionaires. But yeah, the corporate/billionaire worship has become a serious cultural problem.
I can find 2 movie stars right now just scrolling through TikTok. The world has become smaller with the internet. We don’t depend on these hacks anymore.
Social media destroyed glamour, which is a painterly distancing, and replaced it with a self-inflicted ransacking of celebs' private lives.
The mass culture industry also fabricates celebrity in other areas, which compete for attention and make movie stars seem out of touch, not least bc female movie stars have lost their position as the pinnacle of beauty-- and that's since the 90s generation of top models rose to fame. Now it's mostly instagram, onlyfans women and tiktokters who occupy the place of sex symbols
We didn't have social media so we didn't realise they were actual medically diagnosable morons
social media let everyone realize what moronic insufferable homosexuals they all were.
That's hard to buy as an explanation when e-celebs are even more insufferable, and yet as Hollywood star power wanes, the Paul brothers grow stronger.
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They will lose movie stars, interest, soft power and it couldnt have happened to a more perfect industry. Poetic in fact, the movies they made claiming the artsy fartsy could never be replicated. It wont be a pyretic victory pirates, we have golden kino back catalog. Frick em
This is true. I have sacrificed millions of children to prime Jennifer Connelly and Christina Ricci.
Social media killed the mystique of celebrities.
Tiktok and instagram give us an insight into the life's of them and we have no need to see them anywhere else.
> We Used to Treat Movie Stars Like Gods
I still do. I regularly make ritual sacrifices to Tom Bosely.
>start hiring 100% ugly disgusting looking actors and actresses
>surprised nobody likes the new celebrities
How these people didn't immediately destroy the business they inherited is beyond me.
What's more interesting to me is that all the popular actors right now are not only talentless compared to previous generations but they're exclusively nepobabies or simply connected people from middle to upper class. In mamy years no working class person made it big. In the past, you had quite a few, some even iconic, actors who came from a working class background and some didn't even had money for acting schools etc. Peter O'Toole is a great example (If he was born today, with the current system and acting profession being this gatekeeped, he probably wouldn't make it). At the same time, his erudition, intellect and overall presence was far above every modern actor, despite his lack of "posh" british background. Modern actors are illiterate in comparison. Why did acting become so gatekeeped?
It's part of the design. Any rags to riches type cast is going to be from an "underrepresented" background, so the nepo babies inside the gate are safe.
the elite is closed off now. no more spots available, except for
Anthony Hopkins is another example, but elites keep pushing literal whos like that eyebrow chick Cara Delevigne who only got roles because her family owns the basic b***h pilpul media brand Condé Nast (Pitchfork, Vogue, GQ, Vanity Fair)
>gatekeeped
It ised spellt gateskeepened
It costs so much being alive these days, no matter where you live. Middle class is eroding everywhere in the west. People can't afford to go into the arts anymore. Only actors with rich and/or connected parents make it because they are the only ones that can afford it. It is so much easier to audition, get acting classes, accent classes etc. if you are wealthy (and even easier if you have connections).
Can he die already? Not because he can't act, his horrible movies or what he said. Just for my personal amusement.
Harrison Ford strikes me as the kind of guy who's going to accidentally hang himself during autoerotic asphyxiation. He does nothing but complain and has a love-hate relationship with his fame, which is the kind of malaise you could sense in David Carradine and Anthony Bourdain that drives people to dangerous vices. Give it another few years and you can laugh to heart's content at all the ACKjaks of him. I bet one will be Indiana Jones hanging himself with his whip.
>professional pretender is sad they dont have simps anymore
good. the fact that people treat celebrities as any more than a professional jester is not only harmful to society as a whole, but just down right pathetic.
Hey man you don't wanna frick with the jesters.
I really don't care about how people treat celebrities, but it is pretty obvious that because the star system doesn't exist anymore, it has also hurt the quality of movies.
Ancient Rome had it right by treating actors as no better than prostitutes. We need to go back to that. Instead, we now treat prostitutes as celebrities.
Sad!
hollywood was better before the internet because we didn't realize how moronic these leftwing pedophiles are. add in all the current troonshit and darkie pandering and its hollywood killing itself, no one else.
celebs were replaced by e-celebs
Actors elevated status was artificially engineered, nobody ever thought those geezers were good or needed for society, the pushing force that glamorized this profession is long gone, we're just reverting back to normal
The average Joe enjoys streaming for free and is tired of the gay and race agenda. There is no love for the source anymore.
Celebrity culture is one of the worst things that happened to society