>we went from a young cartoon boy saying damn shocking the world to South Park in a decade
Funny to think about
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>we went from a young cartoon boy saying damn shocking the world to South Park in a decade
What's funny is that a show like Drawn Together just flew under the radar entirely and had no controversy surrounding it and just the occasional Cinemaphile reaction image usually.
Family Guy, South Park, and other Adult swim/ Comedy Centra/ MTV cartoons were already pushing the TV envelope at the time. Drawn together felt like just another adult animated sitcom, even when it was new.
What fricking world were you living in? That shit was panned by critics throughout its entire run, to the point where the show had an entire episode lampooning it. Advertisers were constantly threatening to pull from Comedy Central if they didn't cancel the show.
It wasn't remotely as popular as shows like South Park, but it did have its fair share of shit being thrown at it.
>Advertisers were constantly threatening to pull from Comedy Central if they didn't cancel the show.
A dubious claim when they already pulled the Jared episode of South Park just to keep Subway commercials airing then.
Underrated
the 80s, reagan, and full house were a disaster for the human race
They would have never aired Fritz the cat on TV at the time you disingenuous frickwad
Bart saying damn and hell was controversial enough that George HW Bush referenced the Simpsons negativily.
You kiddies are all too online to realize the context of when a show aired mattered a lot. Simpsons was in a mainstream slot. There were always edgy nasty things on obscure networks late at night, it being passed around on vhs tapes. Simpsons only shocked because it was in front of large prime time audiences
And part of why it was done was that Fox was a new network, competing with ABC, CBS, NBC which had been around for decades.
We're strictly taking TV animation here anon. And didn't Duckman predate all the shows mentioned so far?
No, Howard the Duckman started in 1994, almost five years after The Simpsons. Even the original comic one-shot was 1990, a few months after The Simpsons started.
Ajax is a reference to Homer.
No? When do you think Duckman came out? It was a result of the success of The Simpsons.
>We're strictly taking TV animation here anon.
Yes, and that anon is right. The Simpsons being a primetime animated show on a regular (albeit young) network genuinely was shocking when it came out. That's why the reaction was so big, which can seem strange looking back without understanding the context of the period.
Nothing he said isn't TV animation though. Obscure networks late at night is still TV. VHS tapes are 90% gonna be shit taped from TV as well, then 9% taped movies like Fritz the Cat and maybe 1% more obscure stuff like the South Park pilots
Don't be an autistic homosexual, it's clear what the anon meant: mainstream network TV (at the time meaning NBC, ABC, CBS, and Fox).
When I look at "wide audience" 90s shit like Full House, Home Improvement, and Family Matters, it feels like a totally different world than the cutting-edge stuff that was coming out at the same time.
Like I'm genuinely shocked that Beavis and Butt-Head was allowed on TV when it started in 1993. The early episodes were literally just "these two teenagers huff stove gas and paint thinner, abuse animals, light shit on fire, and swear up a storm. Coming just a few years after the squeaky-clean 80s, I can see why it shocked so many.
>the squeaky-clean 80s
Horror movies with gratituous bare breasts were successful.
They're talking about mainstream TV, which was super-sanitized and sterile at the time. Stuff like The Simpsons and Seinfeld appearing on mainstream network TV in the late 80s/early 90s was a response to that. MTV was an even bigger response, but cable was always more wild than network stuff.
Weren't those strictly in the movie theaters tho? We're talking TV. tho I do remember accidentally clicking through some porn channels as a kid on basic cable. I guess the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake Superbowl incident was that effective in outraging parents [/spoiler,]
In Leafland we had softcore shit on Friday nights on broadcast television. Baby Blue #2 on City TV
Oddly enough, Homer was created as a counter to all those squeaky clean sitcom dads of those days. Now characters like Bob Belcher are seen as a counter to Homer Simpson kind of sitcom dads. yes, Hank Hill was a good sitcom Father too. But he wasn't as supportive or playful as Bob is with his kids
Al Bundy pre-dates Homer as a counter-ideal sitcom dad, but The Simpsons was much more popular than Married With Children (also a Fox show)
More importantly, The Simpsons was animated. It's still kind of around now, but back then "cartoon = kids" was absolute so seeing a cartoon that didn't fit the kid-friendly mold shocked many people. Having a cartoon kid on primetime TV curse, be disrespectful, etc. was seen as genuinely provocative. It's why so many people freaked out over Bart corrupting the youth.
Most Fox shows were this type of thing for a while. They were always trying to be the opposite of the perfect clean sitcoms of the late 80s. Just all the others are not so remembered these days.
It was framed as a primetime issue, which it really wasn't. This is a network versus cable issue. Beavis and Butthead aired on MTV which is a cable station. And cable stations to this day don't have restrictions by the FCC. But network television like Fox does have restrictions. So the Simpsons doing what it did, was pushing the envelope because it was pushing up against federal regulations. If the Simpsons did what they did on whatever cable channel in the early 1990s, it wouldn't have been nearly the issue that it was at the time.
South Park is aired in primetime, and has been since it's debut
What? No, it aired at 10pm on an obscure network that it carried to much greater success
Don't just come in here and make shit up
10:00 p.m. is still primetime. And this goes my argument that it had nothing to do with primetime, and had everything to do with network versus cable
Cable, different story.
I thought the whole thing with Simpsons was that it was the complete opposite of the perfect family sitcoms that were so common in the 80s.
Yeah, that's right
Though it really wasn't all that different from The Flintstones
The slippery slope is a fallacy, but it also keeps proving itself true.
Animated in it's very early days was ment for all ages. Which explains why you had Disney and Looney Tunes animating racist jokes and WW2 propaganda. Then around the 60s-80s you had that "animation is for kids only" idea which caused a big lapse.
Oh yeah, and the Flintstones advertising Cigarettes wasn't seen as a big deal either since the show was meant for Adults too
The Simpsons vs The President
So could any oldgays here enlighten a zoomer? How popular/common were Comedy Central and cable in general during the late 80s to early 00s?
By the time I was old enough to remember things it was pretty ubiquitous.
>Born 1996
> weird spot between too old for zoomer but too young for millennial
>Remember watching lots of these shows, but not really knowing of any controversy
>Just assumed only adults watched them
>Eventually went to middle school and met many who knew about Futurama, ATHF, South Park, etc
>Now we're just watching any new adult cartoon like any other show
It's an odd yet perfect spot to enjoy watching these shows casually not caring about the used to be
No cable had it in the late 80s, and they did not start picking it up until the mid 90s or so.
Until South Park in 97 got it some real money coming in and they could afford to have shows of their own, it was nothing but an 80s comedy movie rerun channel. Just hours of second rate comedy movies from the 80s forever. Heavenly Kid, Dream a Little Dream, Earth Girls are Easy, Transylvania 6-5000 were most often played. And some rerun shows too but not many, Soap and 80s Saturday Night Live. Penn Gillette was the spokesman for the channel and voiced all the channel bumpers and commercials.
Cute
Why does that look so weird?
Is this another thread where South Park homosexuals will pretend South Park is the only edgy show to ever exist?
i wish it was the south park thread where south park homosexuals hornypost trey parker
Tijuana Bibles existed since Popeye first came out.
Wtf the slippery slope is real?