>Historical drama where women are literally property >Joanie got raped repeatedly by her dad then raped repeatedly by Cy when he literally purchased her >Skyler is forced to remarry Bullock after the death of her husband >prostitutes were trafficked into prostitution, plyed with drugs, and are constantly abused/sick from complications of their work
Wrong. He’s above middle class and is in average health. He owns his home, and his business, and his wife loves him but is a bit of a ding bat, and he’s a crisis enabler. He ramps up the drama intentionally or unintentionally.
He leases both his home and business from ((Mr. Fischoeder)) and his restaurant is constantly struggling. He's not doing well based on what the show let's us see
>He’s above middle class
He's always late with rent and his restaurant is usually shown to be only just popular to stay open. He also does not own his home or the building his restaurant is in. >good health
He's fat
His family doesn't respect him and every single episode is >family, I found a new hobby >DAD, we don't LIKE your new hobby for some small reason >family can I just have one good thing in my life >NO >:(
The rest of the cast will regularly find something they enjoy for the moment and it is not always pooh-poohed by the others. Most of the time, it's either ignored (and then they go on to have a misadventure involving the hobby or the people within the hobby) or they enthusiastically join in (causing problems as their personalities clash with each other or the people encountered).
But with Bob, it's almost always complete negativity and/or active sabotage.
Eyes Wide Shut. (1999...only 24 years ago)
Tom Cruise & Sydney Pollack both play respected men that fumble, but ultimately remain good men. Shit, Sydney Pollack's character almost kills a hooker and is still respected and kind to those around him. All movies need some conflict/plot or else it's boring shit.
It's someone asking disingenuous questions about American tv and they seem to have a very, very limited understanding of what shows actually exist. If he's not a foreigner like a Rusky then he's clearly moronic.
Probably the closest to the criteria presented, in both Jay and Phil. Phil might be disqualified for being too silly and emotional and Jay too often gets presented as having to learn to 'be better' though.
The Haunting of Hill House.
The Fathers whole thing as a young man is "fixing" things. He provides for his large, happy family. His wife dies of mental illness; no fault of the fathers as he is kind, responsive, and tries to help his wife multiple times.
His children remain good people except for two/three who fall into disarray due to their mothers suicide.
The father is smart even into old age and protects his children from an arms length (which is necessary). He takes heart medicine, which shows he cares about his health even after the trails of his youth.
I always thought it was funny that they had a baby at the end. I was probably like 16 and even then I was thinking they both seemed pretty old to be even capable of making one
Breaking Bad (Hank and Marie)
HIMYM (Lily and Marshall)
Downton Abbey (arguably inadmissible as a period piece)
Kim's Convenience
Parenthood (probably)
The Office (Pam and Jim. Sure they both work but it's established that Pam is less aspirational and struggles in higher paying roles)
Modern Family (Gloria and Jay. Arguably Phil and Clare, he's dopey but he's not stupid or incompetent and he's very much the provider, at least until Clare activates her nepo baby card. Also very much Cam and Mitch, but they're gay so probably don't count)
White Lotus (Rachel and Shane, Cam and Daphne, Ethan and Harper. They may not be conventionally functional, but it works for them)
Also this question is stupid, because it asks you to focus on everything except conflict points, so obviously nothing's going to leap to mind. Like, I was gonna throw The Resort on the list, but I have no clue what either person in the couple does for a living because it's a fricking tv show with more important shit going on, not a boring small-talk laden company party.
Being married also wipes out a lot of main characters, since like 90% of stories involve finding or losing love. Surviving on a single income further foists the possibilities into the ensemble cast since that's a pipe dream for anyone who's not a boomer (including pre-boomers. That's never been the norm, it was a deviation for a generation that lived on tutorial mode and cries non-stop that they weren't also given trophies).
Finally, if any of these shows are more than 15 years old, please don't tell me, I don't wanna hear about time passing.
>Alpha male dad >Complete control of his family, they all respect him >Works for an outdoor store, does typical manly shit >Right wing views but isn't shown as a lunatic
>If he pitched idea they would have shot it down in commie times today.
They shot it down when it was already established and was CBS's second rated television show, because people didn't like how Tim Allen compared all the various 'cancel him now!' movements to 1930s Germany. That his successful show was then cancelled only proved his point.
hank is respected as frick, even when he's losing his mind his peers all treat him as respectfully as they can given the circumstances. the only place he wasn't respected was in el paso, and all those guys got blown the frick up so frick em.
>the only place he wasn't respected was in el paso
Or by his wife.
5 months ago
Anonymous
literally when? she was unfailingly by his side taking care of him and eating his shit when he was at his worst and needed someone to just take his day out on. the worst you can say about marie is that she disrespected minerals.
And yet his wife and kid take him for granted and his in-laws disrespects him with the thinnest veil to cover the insults. The first season, especially the pilot, does such a good job of showing just how life has really fricked Walt over that the rest of the seasons end up trying and failing to undo it so we'll view him as a villain by the end.
Well he did engage in various criminal activities, including violence, deception, and manipulation, in order to protect his drug empire and achieve his goals.......
Yup, but if they hadn't made him so sympathetic by making the entire world against him, including those who were supposed to love and be on his side, the rest of the seasons would have worked as intended. The only people who ever treats him with respect in the first season are the criminals he encounters. And the Janitor we see for a single scene who gets fired.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think thats why the show worked of me and I ended up supporting him into the descent of criminality
5 months ago
Anonymous
It works and it makes the show good, but by the end you can tell it's not what the writers intended. They never wanted us to agree with Walt but they accidentally made him the good guy.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>They never wanted us to agree with Walt but they accidentally made him the good guy.
Yeah, didn't the writers come out and say they don't endorse his behavior kek?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yup. It's why the bullshit of "It's all about Walt's ego" arguments just falls short for me and why Skylar is such a unsympathetic character. All they really needed was to show that in his own home, Walt was respected, even if the rest of the world dismissed him and took him for granted, just for the first season. Everything onward then makes a lot more sense, including Skylar's actions when she finds out what Walt has been doing after the cancer diagnosis.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>All they really needed was to show that in his own home, Walt was respected, even if the rest of the world dismissed him and took him for granted, just for the first season.
except that goes against the entire catalyst of the show, you fricking dumbass
5 months ago
Anonymous
But then Walt isn't the horrible ego driven maniac that Vince and the writers room pretend he is, and Skylar is a horrible unsympathetic b***h who deserved a lot worse than what she got.
>Name a TV show about somebody who has won at life
Not even against the guy, but popular fiction revolves around drama. If the guy is a provider, has a good home, and keeps up with his health, then his life is about to be utterly fricked up in order to send him on an adventure for our entertainment. See: John Wick.
This guy should start cultivating respect from the people around him instead of finding TV shows that he can insert himself into
Does he think that watching a TV show about a "well respected father in good health" (lol) is going to turn HIM into one, too?
this
bandit steals the show almost slowly for the reason that he doesn't fall into the "moron dad/strong boss mother" trope
the show even goes out of its way to show "bad parents" with brothet stripes and muffin
Does it count if the series started 17 years ago but is still running because it's so popular and beloved? Who asks these kinds of disingenuous questions? Is he just a sheltered idiot who only looks at Disney productions?
What does he expect what couple in real life has a man providing and a woman not even having a job in the last 15 years
You know anyone under 40 living that life
>He also points out they have to be in good health.
OP's post says "cares about his health". That just means he has to give a shit about not being an obese slob. >So he's asking for a show that basically has no drama in it.
Drama could derive from a sudden change in health, such as an accident at work causing him to lose his ability to be a provider, or a sudden development of cancer. They are a case of life dealing him a shitty hand, and now how he deals with them.
Or it has nothing to do with his health. >There's a murderer around town, and he starts to suspect who the culprit is. >Someone rapes his daughter, setting him on a path of revenge. >A big project lands on his lap, giving him a chance to advance his career. If only things didn't keep going wrong... >etc
Alternatively, the father is not even MC, he's just there to be a positive figure for the actual MC, who deals with the actual drama.
If you think a character has to be Peter Griffin for drama to be generated in the show, you're clearly too much of a brainlet to tie your shoes let alone give a take regarding drama in media.
I was just pointing out how weak his trolling was. There are plenty of examples in the thread that fits what he's looking for. He's either foreign so he's unfamiliar with most western TV or he's deliberately playing ignorant to try and stir shit up.
Heartland
Blues Clues
Outlander
When Calls the Heart
Last Kingdom
Virgin River
Santa Clarita Diet
Twin Peaks
Roseanne
Last Man Standing
Riverdale
Sullivan's Crossing
Sweet Magnolias
This is Us
Jane the Virgin
Everwood
Hart of Dixie
Bones
Cobra Kai
Modern Family
Madam Secretary
Game of Thrones
5 months ago
Anonymous
>blues clues
Stopped reading there. It is completely full of troony propaganda now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>shows don't count if I don't like something else about them!
I listed 22 for you anyways, so you could have ignored it but I accept your admission of defeat.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It has literally none of the things from the OP. I guess you could argue salt and pepper are married
5 months ago
Anonymous
Okay ignore it then. Got anything to whine about the other 21? Or did you have a point?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Just that your list is already wrong 2 in so I'm not bothering with the rest
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lol I accept your defeat.
5 months ago
Anonymous
My defeat? You mean you weren't wrong just 2 examples in?
Ned Stark back in early Game of Thrones. >hurr he was dumb
No he was honest and morally upstanding. He was stabbed in the back and the series ended with all of his enemies dead and their legacies destroyed while he lived on through his children.
>Lord Peasebury turned against the northmen. “This march was madness. More dying every day, and for what? Some girl?” >“Ned’s girl,” said Morgan Liddle. >“Ned’s girl,” echoed Big Bucket Wull. “And we should have had her and the castle both if you prancing southron jackanapes didn’t piss your satin breeches at a little snow.” >“A little snow?” Peasebury’s soft girlish mouth twisted in fury. “Your ill counsel forced this march upon us, Wull. I am starting to suspect you have been Bolton’s creature all along. Is that the way of it? Did he send you to us to whisper poison in the king’s ear?” >Big Bucket laughed in his face. “Lord Pea Pod. If you were a man, I would kill you for that, but my sword is made of too fine a steel to besmirch with craven’s blood.” He took a drink of ale and wiped his mouth. “Aye, men are dying. More will die before we see Winterfell. What of it? This is war. Men die in war. That is as it should be. As it has always been.”
Ned's honor cost him his life, but it sowed a loyalty that could never be bought.
This, the same thing is going to end up happening in the books too
came to post this
>Lord Peasebury turned against the northmen. “This march was madness. More dying every day, and for what? Some girl?” >“Ned’s girl,” said Morgan Liddle. >“Ned’s girl,” echoed Big Bucket Wull. “And we should have had her and the castle both if you prancing southron jackanapes didn’t piss your satin breeches at a little snow.” >“A little snow?” Peasebury’s soft girlish mouth twisted in fury. “Your ill counsel forced this march upon us, Wull. I am starting to suspect you have been Bolton’s creature all along. Is that the way of it? Did he send you to us to whisper poison in the king’s ear?” >Big Bucket laughed in his face. “Lord Pea Pod. If you were a man, I would kill you for that, but my sword is made of too fine a steel to besmirch with craven’s blood.” He took a drink of ale and wiped his mouth. “Aye, men are dying. More will die before we see Winterfell. What of it? This is war. Men die in war. That is as it should be. As it has always been.”
Ned's honor cost him his life, but it sowed a loyalty that could never be bought.
In fact arguably the show understated how beloved Ned is and fricked his enemies are. Tywin died and the Kingdom is on the brink of collapse because he ruled through fear and everybody hates him. Meanwhile people will die for the memory of Ned. People over think ASOIAF is pessimistic because the fat man hasn't concluded the arc where everything goes to shit for the villains and Ned's morality ultimately wins.
Now you know why men have to be shamed into buying "entertainment services" beamed directly into the most intimate rooms in his house. With one once of critical thinking he would see it is an "argument creation service" for women.
I was going to say Everybody Hates Chris, but apparently it premiered almost 20 years ago. But that can't be right. It only ended a couple years ago, right?
Right?
Because the bumbling dad always seems funny and a cool hang and the intelligent wife comes off as a nag, which is appealing because that’s how every married man sees themselves and allows them to connect with the humor better.
Stories are built on conflict. Flawed characters lead to interesting stories. The “fat cantankerous husband” trope isn’t a psyop from DEI hires, it’s been a staple of television from day fricking zero.
B-b-b-but why do stories have to have flawed characters? Where's my show about the perfect husband who does everything perfectly? It's fricking israelites telling me I can't do anything!!!!
Cool story. But... japanese media exists, and it pants a picture that says the current state of western media isn't inherent to the medium.
Easy.
Take this one show right here for example; there are at least 7 or 8 characters that fit into this category. Respectable, responsible, intelligent husbands and fathers.
2 out of the top 3 US domestic movies right now are japanese. The filth that the west puts out is NOT NORMAL. It doesn't have to be this way.
>the current state of western media isn't inherent to the medium.
So which anime have perfect husbands? And why do the western shows mentioned in the thread not count?
Endless no budget trash.
>no budget
Have you never watched it? It and many of the shows like that have very big budgets. >trash
Okay, explain why shows like that and Heartland are trash to you. I'm genuinely curious why.
Santa Clarita Diet. Olyphant is a bit of a goof sometimes but I don't think he's moronic, he and his wife have the same profession.
Pretty fun show, wish it got one more season.
Her talk show must be easier money. I figured it wasn't getting many viewers, it didn't seem terribly expensive but who knows with Netflix, could have been anything.
My wife used to watch her show a lot, I don't think there's an easier gig than daytime talk shows. It's always like 20 minutes of puppy videos or some shit, a 5 minute "interview" where she gushes "omg I just saw you in that thing and you were AMAZING everything you do is wonderful!" Then they drink some wine.
The reason diversity slop is so boring is because they don't let any characters have flaws. God help us if we have a black guy be the but of a joke on tv, you can't even have a catchphrase without being criticized by some light skin university professor from Berkley. But now you got white people doing the same shit in the same way. we waz romans we don't want to be the fat funny man on tv. Pretty soon we aren't going to have anything funny or exciting on tv anymore because of these stupid homosexuals.
Those are exceptions to the rule. Normally a woman or a minority character has the most boring role on the show. Funny fat white dad is everyone's favorite character because they are actually allowed to be funny.
Exceptions in two of the most popular comedies in recent years. Okay can you name some sitcoms with black characters that never get made fun of more recent than All in the Family?
So you're saying that the popular shows people like don't do this, but you assume there are shows that do but you can't think of them (you're wrong about Blackish btw) because no one watches them? That's a delightful concession of defeat.
It's okay though, gregarious as I am I thought of an example from a popular show that almost fits. The sadly now dead Capitan Holt on Brooklyn 99 pretty much always played the straight man.
Pretty much every precure series and other shoujo anime that show the parents have loving stable provider fathers who are glowing with mutual affection.
Name a number between 5 and 25 that:
- is an integer
- isn't even
- isn't a prime
- isn't the square of a prime
- doesn't contain the digit '1'
- isn't the sum of any two real numbers
- cannot be represented using any numerical notation currently known to man
>Heh... got you good there didn't I? Point proven; I'm indeed pretty smart if I say so myself
>mfw in my 30s, got a BSc, get paid £52k a year, most valuable member on my pub quiz team, and the person my friends go to for answers >still don't know what an integer or a prime number is
i wanted to pretend to be a redditor and smugly and dishonestly ask erm why anybody would want to watch such a thing but i’m too tired
> erm
The first gen alpha discord kids are amogus.
Please tell me you meant to type "ask 'em" and that erm isn't some moronic made up replacement pronoun
Deadwood
>uhh actually that's from 16 years ago
eat my dick
so you admit it doesn’t count
>Historical drama where women are literally property
>Joanie got raped repeatedly by her dad then raped repeatedly by Cy when he literally purchased her
>Skyler is forced to remarry Bullock after the death of her husband
>prostitutes were trafficked into prostitution, plyed with drugs, and are constantly abused/sick from complications of their work
wow great pick you nailed it
it fits the criteria :^)
You’re not homosexually implying that any of this is somehow bad, are you?
Dumbass, it's from like 100 years ago
Bob's Burgers
Bob is poor and in bad health.
Wrong. He’s above middle class and is in average health. He owns his home, and his business, and his wife loves him but is a bit of a ding bat, and he’s a crisis enabler. He ramps up the drama intentionally or unintentionally.
He leases both his home and business from ((Mr. Fischoeder)) and his restaurant is constantly struggling. He's not doing well based on what the show let's us see
>He’s above middle class
He's always late with rent and his restaurant is usually shown to be only just popular to stay open. He also does not own his home or the building his restaurant is in.
>good health
He's fat
that's a good one, just a shame about his kids...
His family doesn't respect him and every single episode is
>family, I found a new hobby
>DAD, we don't LIKE your new hobby for some small reason
>family can I just have one good thing in my life
>NO
>:(
But then they all end up singing in the end. Do you really want episodes where it's just
>family, I found a new hobby!
>cool beans enjoy
The rest of the cast will regularly find something they enjoy for the moment and it is not always pooh-poohed by the others. Most of the time, it's either ignored (and then they go on to have a misadventure involving the hobby or the people within the hobby) or they enthusiastically join in (causing problems as their personalities clash with each other or the people encountered).
But with Bob, it's almost always complete negativity and/or active sabotage.
They love him and he’s shown as an explicitly good father.
the simpsons
homer is the proto moronic useless cuck husband
He's the provider, so the most useful member of the family.
Eyes Wide Shut. (1999...only 24 years ago)
Tom Cruise & Sydney Pollack both play respected men that fumble, but ultimately remain good men. Shit, Sydney Pollack's character almost kills a hooker and is still respected and kind to those around him. All movies need some conflict/plot or else it's boring shit.
Ah yes, Eyes Wide shut, my favorite tv show.
neither are good men
tom cruise sells his daughter to the illuminati at the end
Yeah...the rugrats were dead all along. Get fricked with that shit.
it’s interesting how this question made you upset
He has autism, go easy on him
>Well Cinemaphile?
its interesting that bottom tier bait threads are so precious to you
yeah so you’re argument is nothing and you’re a pussy moron
Young sheldon
Yeah and then they killed off the father character
I was just guessing.
yes cos it's a prequel
nothing in the op said they couldn't die
Doesn't the dad cheat on his wife?
Breaking Bad
While he is painted as a provider, after crossing his money goal he stops providing at that point, because he stops caring
Doesn't has his house in order tho. That's literally the ending
But he’s not respected his family and peers that’s the whole point of the show.
Outer Range
>family discovers an unfathomable mystery
is the show si-fi?
Not in the first season. Second will probably have a bit.
Cancelled
It still existed. Was on-going for eternity part of OP's moronation he forgot to mention?
I can't name a show from the past 15 years at all.
>/pol/bait thread
this is your reaction to something you can’t respond to
an image of you going HURRRR DURRRR and you probably reported it lol
Something I said?
yeah you’re a moronic Black person
Hey Ivan how's the two day special operation going?
Enjoy pushing this propaganda vatnik scum?
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-lost-87-ground-troops-had-before-war-ukraine-cnn-2023-12
I'll enjoy your rude awakening in a couple months.
>2 more weeks
Ivanschizo is back.
>somebody doesn't share my precise political views. Clearly they work for the Kremlin.
Is that what it is? He's some Rusky moron trolling because he's only ever heard of like 5 American shows?
no good rips of this show yet
Maybe that's why Russians have never heard of it.
Fuller house fit that as well with Jesse even though he's not a major part.
This will never be your site, croid. You have never belonged here. Go back, propagandist.
>t.
Pretty good they pay me 15 roubles per post. Thanks for asking Cletus:)
>everyone I disagree with is a Russian
this bit was stale by 2017
It's someone asking disingenuous questions about American tv and they seem to have a very, very limited understanding of what shows actually exist. If he's not a foreigner like a Rusky then he's clearly moronic.
>I'll wait.
Is there anything gaygier than that phrase
>Is there anything gaygier than that phrase
based
'you do realise ___, right?'
"I'm fluent in sarcasm"
I really don't care at all
Is he still waiting?
why don't you X @david_james_fox and ask him yourself?
modern family
Probably the closest to the criteria presented, in both Jay and Phil. Phil might be disqualified for being too silly and emotional and Jay too often gets presented as having to learn to 'be better' though.
sopranos
That was over 20 years ago.
Tony absolutely did not care about his health
The Haunting of Hill House.
The Fathers whole thing as a young man is "fixing" things. He provides for his large, happy family. His wife dies of mental illness; no fault of the fathers as he is kind, responsive, and tries to help his wife multiple times.
His children remain good people except for two/three who fall into disarray due to their mothers suicide.
The father is smart even into old age and protects his children from an arms length (which is necessary). He takes heart medicine, which shows he cares about his health even after the trails of his youth.
I watch the show and didn't understand the ending ..
Anon the ending unironically was
>What if the real ghosts were the friends we made along the way.
You got severely filtered anon, I’m sorry.
What’s not to understand? Seems pretty straightforward.
Obviously most characters aren't "healthy". Other ISIS there wouldn't be a plot.
Anyways the answer is Nancy's father from Nightmare in Elm Street.
Breaking Bad until Walter fricked it up
No
skylar disliked him from the beginning and he was whipped
How did she dislike him in the pre-drug dealing episodes?
>multitasking a handjob
C'mon man even a virgin can tell that's not a healthy marriage
His wife and kid hated him lol did you even watch the show?
Walter's entire motivation was that nobody ever respected him
The Ranch
Young Sheldon
Bob Hearts Abishola
Parks and Recreation
Atypical
Neighborhood
The Upshaws
White Collar
Burn Notice better?
I always thought it was funny that they had a baby at the end. I was probably like 16 and even then I was thinking they both seemed pretty old to be even capable of making one
Breaking Bad (Hank and Marie)
HIMYM (Lily and Marshall)
Downton Abbey (arguably inadmissible as a period piece)
Kim's Convenience
Parenthood (probably)
The Office (Pam and Jim. Sure they both work but it's established that Pam is less aspirational and struggles in higher paying roles)
Modern Family (Gloria and Jay. Arguably Phil and Clare, he's dopey but he's not stupid or incompetent and he's very much the provider, at least until Clare activates her nepo baby card. Also very much Cam and Mitch, but they're gay so probably don't count)
White Lotus (Rachel and Shane, Cam and Daphne, Ethan and Harper. They may not be conventionally functional, but it works for them)
Also this question is stupid, because it asks you to focus on everything except conflict points, so obviously nothing's going to leap to mind. Like, I was gonna throw The Resort on the list, but I have no clue what either person in the couple does for a living because it's a fricking tv show with more important shit going on, not a boring small-talk laden company party.
Being married also wipes out a lot of main characters, since like 90% of stories involve finding or losing love. Surviving on a single income further foists the possibilities into the ensemble cast since that's a pipe dream for anyone who's not a boomer (including pre-boomers. That's never been the norm, it was a deviation for a generation that lived on tutorial mode and cries non-stop that they weren't also given trophies).
Finally, if any of these shows are more than 15 years old, please don't tell me, I don't wanna hear about time passing.
these are all wrong or massive stretches
also you’re a female and not white
>these are all wrong or massive stretches
Then refute them.
I noticed you didn't disagree with being a moronic Black person
you are moronic and coping that you've been proven wrong
/misc/ has rotted your incel mind.
>Well Cinemaphile?
i think people posting x (twitter) screencaps should get a automatic 3 day ban
I think you should go outside and enjoy the fresh air anon and chill out maybe have a beer after
The Man In The High Castle
Mountain Men; but that's reality TV not Hollywood fiction so maybe it doesn't count.
Bluey.
The dog had a bad day and something was bothering him, so he decided to let it go and throw it away.
The Middle
King of the Hill just barely reaches the cut-off point for this.
I was going to say King of the Hill but I forgot that came out in the late 90s. But it ran until 2010 so that's sort of within 15 years...
>peggy’s feet
So was cottons wife white or some kind of weird hapa, I never really knew.
>Alpha male dad
>Complete control of his family, they all respect him
>Works for an outdoor store, does typical manly shit
>Right wing views but isn't shown as a lunatic
Thanks, this was literally my first thought reading OP.
That show only exists thanks to tim allen fame. If he pitched idea they would have shot it down in commie times today.
>If he pitched idea they would have shot it down in commie times today.
They shot it down when it was already established and was CBS's second rated television show, because people didn't like how Tim Allen compared all the various 'cancel him now!' movements to 1930s Germany. That his successful show was then cancelled only proved his point.
If he didn't step on israelite toes the show would still be running, it wasn't canceled because it's about a family.
Why do none of the actors look real in this picture?
They're all shopped together.
it's shopped enough for them to be generic emoticons.
I’m Black and israeli.
what do you watch?
My Mister
Breaking Bad, took me about 3 seconds but there are probably dozens more
Walt was never respected by his family or peers, which is a big point of the show.
not that anon, but you know there are other characters in that show, right?
None of the male characters are respected or fit the OP's image.
hank is respected as frick, even when he's losing his mind his peers all treat him as respectfully as they can given the circumstances. the only place he wasn't respected was in el paso, and all those guys got blown the frick up so frick em.
>the only place he wasn't respected was in el paso
Or by his wife.
literally when? she was unfailingly by his side taking care of him and eating his shit when he was at his worst and needed someone to just take his day out on. the worst you can say about marie is that she disrespected minerals.
White wasn't respected like
said
Everyone in his family thought Walt was a loser
>Everyone in his family thought Walt was a loser
Why did they think that? White had a good job in a school
You are baiting or autistic.
I watched the show 10 years ago tbh I don't remember much of it
And yet his wife and kid take him for granted and his in-laws disrespects him with the thinnest veil to cover the insults. The first season, especially the pilot, does such a good job of showing just how life has really fricked Walt over that the rest of the seasons end up trying and failing to undo it so we'll view him as a villain by the end.
>view him as a villain by the end.
Well he did engage in various criminal activities, including violence, deception, and manipulation, in order to protect his drug empire and achieve his goals.......
Yup, but if they hadn't made him so sympathetic by making the entire world against him, including those who were supposed to love and be on his side, the rest of the seasons would have worked as intended. The only people who ever treats him with respect in the first season are the criminals he encounters. And the Janitor we see for a single scene who gets fired.
I think thats why the show worked of me and I ended up supporting him into the descent of criminality
It works and it makes the show good, but by the end you can tell it's not what the writers intended. They never wanted us to agree with Walt but they accidentally made him the good guy.
>They never wanted us to agree with Walt but they accidentally made him the good guy.
Yeah, didn't the writers come out and say they don't endorse his behavior kek?
Yup. It's why the bullshit of "It's all about Walt's ego" arguments just falls short for me and why Skylar is such a unsympathetic character. All they really needed was to show that in his own home, Walt was respected, even if the rest of the world dismissed him and took him for granted, just for the first season. Everything onward then makes a lot more sense, including Skylar's actions when she finds out what Walt has been doing after the cancer diagnosis.
>All they really needed was to show that in his own home, Walt was respected, even if the rest of the world dismissed him and took him for granted, just for the first season.
except that goes against the entire catalyst of the show, you fricking dumbass
But then Walt isn't the horrible ego driven maniac that Vince and the writers room pretend he is, and Skylar is a horrible unsympathetic b***h who deserved a lot worse than what she got.
the frick are you babbling about
What are you babbling about?
>Wife fricks another men
>has house in order
Hahajha are you israelite
>Name a TV show about somebody who has won at life
Not even against the guy, but popular fiction revolves around drama. If the guy is a provider, has a good home, and keeps up with his health, then his life is about to be utterly fricked up in order to send him on an adventure for our entertainment. See: John Wick.
What point is the dimwit trying to make?
That men are now only portrayed as idiots, simps, or psychopaths in TV shows.
Drama is historically about conflict of man vs insert whatever, dimwit. Maybe he should watch a documentary instead of fiction.
This guy should start cultivating respect from the people around him instead of finding TV shows that he can insert himself into
Does he think that watching a TV show about a "well respected father in good health" (lol) is going to turn HIM into one, too?
No, he thinks it will turn others into them. He probably thinks himself of no need to improve.
>go-to insult is to call somebody a Black person
>whines about /misc/
Every crime show in the last 15 years
Every hallmark show/tv-movie
Every drama show
bluey
he cute!
this
bandit steals the show almost slowly for the reason that he doesn't fall into the "moron dad/strong boss mother" trope
the show even goes out of its way to show "bad parents" with brothet stripes and muffin
Bluey bums me out because I’ll never be as good a father as Bandit. I don’t have the energy/creativity
Not with that attitude. Role models should inspire you, not make you jealous.
Easy.
Frick off pedo.
Breaking Bad?
Modern Family
The first season of For All Mankind. Then his dumbass kids dies and his wife fricks his son's best friend
That tim Allen show and it fricking sucks except that one hot daughter
Justified. Art is married, has grand kids, is respected by his peers, is a leader, har his house in control and takes medicine for his health
Spy x Family
actually maybe not so much on the cares about his health part I think there have been a few bits about pushing himself too hard
Frick off pedo.
Holy projection batman, I never said anything about anya or becky
All anime is for pedos, go back to your containment board if you want to talk about that shit. Do not reply to me again.
Anime website, why are you even here if you hate anime that much
>anime website
Hst been that way for a decade. This is the Pepe/Wojak site.
American dad.
Yeah I was gonna say American Dad but that's more than 15 years old.
idk if stan really counts as intelligent
It's still running though.
Ozark. Easy
Wife didn’t respect the husband and was cheating on him.
Outlander comes to mind.
She’s married to someone else
When the story starts. She marries him.
Does it count if the series started 17 years ago but is still running because it's so popular and beloved? Who asks these kinds of disingenuous questions? Is he just a sheltered idiot who only looks at Disney productions?
If you have to ask then the point is already proven ain't it.
Honestly I don't know if he actually is just stupid and living life with blinders on or if he's knows but is purposefully trying to cause drama.
Bones also fits this since it was still running 15 years ago and they were married by then.
Al Bundy on Modern Family
What does he expect what couple in real life has a man providing and a woman not even having a job in the last 15 years
You know anyone under 40 living that life
He also points out they have to be in good health. So he's asking for a show that basically has no drama in it.
>He also points out they have to be in good health.
OP's post says "cares about his health". That just means he has to give a shit about not being an obese slob.
>So he's asking for a show that basically has no drama in it.
Drama could derive from a sudden change in health, such as an accident at work causing him to lose his ability to be a provider, or a sudden development of cancer. They are a case of life dealing him a shitty hand, and now how he deals with them.
Or it has nothing to do with his health.
>There's a murderer around town, and he starts to suspect who the culprit is.
>Someone rapes his daughter, setting him on a path of revenge.
>A big project lands on his lap, giving him a chance to advance his career. If only things didn't keep going wrong...
>etc
Alternatively, the father is not even MC, he's just there to be a positive figure for the actual MC, who deals with the actual drama.
If you think a character has to be Peter Griffin for drama to be generated in the show, you're clearly too much of a brainlet to tie your shoes let alone give a take regarding drama in media.
I was just pointing out how weak his trolling was. There are plenty of examples in the thread that fits what he's looking for. He's either foreign so he's unfamiliar with most western TV or he's deliberately playing ignorant to try and stir shit up.
>plenty
Name 20
Heartland
Blues Clues
Outlander
When Calls the Heart
Last Kingdom
Virgin River
Santa Clarita Diet
Twin Peaks
Roseanne
Last Man Standing
Riverdale
Sullivan's Crossing
Sweet Magnolias
This is Us
Jane the Virgin
Everwood
Hart of Dixie
Bones
Cobra Kai
Modern Family
Madam Secretary
Game of Thrones
>blues clues
Stopped reading there. It is completely full of troony propaganda now.
>shows don't count if I don't like something else about them!
I listed 22 for you anyways, so you could have ignored it but I accept your admission of defeat.
It has literally none of the things from the OP. I guess you could argue salt and pepper are married
Okay ignore it then. Got anything to whine about the other 21? Or did you have a point?
Just that your list is already wrong 2 in so I'm not bothering with the rest
Lol I accept your defeat.
My defeat? You mean you weren't wrong just 2 examples in?
Last Man Standing
Cobra Kai. Larusso has his shit together. Though he's kind of dropping the ball with his son.
Honestly, this. Even Johnny turning his left fe around was a breath of fresh air.
Found the seething roastie. Shut your legs c**t, I can see your haircut from here.
The Middle
/thread
There are tons of shows, OP is just here to try and cause a scene on behalf of ~~*you know who*~~
Ned Stark back in early Game of Thrones.
>hurr he was dumb
No he was honest and morally upstanding. He was stabbed in the back and the series ended with all of his enemies dead and their legacies destroyed while he lived on through his children.
There's Alfred in Last Kingdom as well.
came to post this
>Lord Peasebury turned against the northmen. “This march was madness. More dying every day, and for what? Some girl?”
>“Ned’s girl,” said Morgan Liddle.
>“Ned’s girl,” echoed Big Bucket Wull. “And we should have had her and the castle both if you prancing southron jackanapes didn’t piss your satin breeches at a little snow.”
>“A little snow?” Peasebury’s soft girlish mouth twisted in fury. “Your ill counsel forced this march upon us, Wull. I am starting to suspect you have been Bolton’s creature all along. Is that the way of it? Did he send you to us to whisper poison in the king’s ear?”
>Big Bucket laughed in his face. “Lord Pea Pod. If you were a man, I would kill you for that, but my sword is made of too fine a steel to besmirch with craven’s blood.” He took a drink of ale and wiped his mouth. “Aye, men are dying. More will die before we see Winterfell. What of it? This is war. Men die in war. That is as it should be. As it has always been.”
Ned's honor cost him his life, but it sowed a loyalty that could never be bought.
This, the same thing is going to end up happening in the books too
In fact arguably the show understated how beloved Ned is and fricked his enemies are. Tywin died and the Kingdom is on the brink of collapse because he ruled through fear and everybody hates him. Meanwhile people will die for the memory of Ned. People over think ASOIAF is pessimistic because the fat man hasn't concluded the arc where everything goes to shit for the villains and Ned's morality ultimately wins.
Now you know why men have to be shamed into buying "entertainment services" beamed directly into the most intimate rooms in his house. With one once of critical thinking he would see it is an "argument creation service" for women.
You are turbo moronic
Easy.
Last Man Standing
(though it was cancelled despite high ratings because ((they)) hate Tim Allen).
~~*They*~~ tend to do that to anyone who doesn't kneel hard enough.
So a male daddy fantasy show?
The Office.
Last seasons specially show that Pam is holding Jim back from being successful.
Hank Schrader from Breaking Bad.
Jay from Modern Family, except for the cares about health part.
Madam Secretary
Kind of shot yourself in the foot by not mentioning they had to be main characters as well.
Wouldn't have mattered, there's still plenty of examples if you're not a rusky idiot just looking at what he can pirate easily.
Daemon Targaryen breaks this meme in half.
>cluless moron complaining about shit he doesn't know anything about
>meme
I was going to say Everybody Hates Chris, but apparently it premiered almost 20 years ago. But that can't be right. It only ended a couple years ago, right?
Right?
I was making this point the other day in the nostalgia 90s thread. You had many wholesome family shows in the 90s.
Closest I can think of is That 70s Show. Granted he lost his job for a season but he got a new one.
Why did they have the bumbling dad/husband and the intelligent mom/wife in sitcoms so much?
List the top 5 that come to mind and I'll explain each one to you.
Because the bumbling dad always seems funny and a cool hang and the intelligent wife comes off as a nag, which is appealing because that’s how every married man sees themselves and allows them to connect with the humor better.
>ctrl+F "blue bloods"
>no results
Bros? You aren't watching good honest people fight for law and justice?
There are just too many shows to mention. OP is an obvious troll trying to seed discord and not looking for actual answers.
Ghosts UK tv show
Stories are built on conflict. Flawed characters lead to interesting stories. The “fat cantankerous husband” trope isn’t a psyop from DEI hires, it’s been a staple of television from day fricking zero.
B-b-b-but why do stories have to have flawed characters? Where's my show about the perfect husband who does everything perfectly? It's fricking israelites telling me I can't do anything!!!!
Cool story. But... japanese media exists, and it pants a picture that says the current state of western media isn't inherent to the medium.
Take this one show right here for example; there are at least 7 or 8 characters that fit into this category. Respectable, responsible, intelligent husbands and fathers.
2 out of the top 3 US domestic movies right now are japanese. The filth that the west puts out is NOT NORMAL. It doesn't have to be this way.
>the current state of western media isn't inherent to the medium.
So which anime have perfect husbands? And why do the western shows mentioned in the thread not count?
>no budget
Have you never watched it? It and many of the shows like that have very big budgets.
>trash
Okay, explain why shows like that and Heartland are trash to you. I'm genuinely curious why.
What animes are about successful well mannered husbands????
Is OP just completely ignorant that there's a whole channel where half the shows fit that description and is wildly popular?
Endless no budget trash.
Santa Clarita Diet. Olyphant is a bit of a goof sometimes but I don't think he's moronic, he and his wife have the same profession.
Pretty fun show, wish it got one more season.
That was such a good show, I think Drew was just too busy to keep up with it is what I heard.
Her talk show must be easier money. I figured it wasn't getting many viewers, it didn't seem terribly expensive but who knows with Netflix, could have been anything.
My wife used to watch her show a lot, I don't think there's an easier gig than daytime talk shows. It's always like 20 minutes of puppy videos or some shit, a 5 minute "interview" where she gushes "omg I just saw you in that thing and you were AMAZING everything you do is wonderful!" Then they drink some wine.
>cares about his health
trap card, dads don't care about their health
Roseanne
Twin Peaks
The reason diversity slop is so boring is because they don't let any characters have flaws. God help us if we have a black guy be the but of a joke on tv, you can't even have a catchphrase without being criticized by some light skin university professor from Berkley. But now you got white people doing the same shit in the same way. we waz romans we don't want to be the fat funny man on tv. Pretty soon we aren't going to have anything funny or exciting on tv anymore because of these stupid homosexuals.
Winston on New Girl was frequently the butt of jokes, as were Troy and Shirley on Community.
Those are exceptions to the rule. Normally a woman or a minority character has the most boring role on the show. Funny fat white dad is everyone's favorite character because they are actually allowed to be funny.
Exceptions in two of the most popular comedies in recent years. Okay can you name some sitcoms with black characters that never get made fun of more recent than All in the Family?
It's mostly trash that nobody here watches but goes for 10 seasons on network TV. Like black-ish and other shit I can't remember the name of.
So you're saying that the popular shows people like don't do this, but you assume there are shows that do but you can't think of them (you're wrong about Blackish btw) because no one watches them? That's a delightful concession of defeat.
It's okay though, gregarious as I am I thought of an example from a popular show that almost fits. The sadly now dead Capitan Holt on Brooklyn 99 pretty much always played the straight man.
That's how Invicinble starts out, but then his dad leaves at the end.
Pretty much every precure series and other shoujo anime that show the parents have loving stable provider fathers who are glowing with mutual affection.
Name a number between 5 and 25 that:
- is an integer
- isn't even
- isn't a prime
- isn't the square of a prime
- doesn't contain the digit '1'
- isn't the sum of any two real numbers
- cannot be represented using any numerical notation currently known to man
>Heh... got you good there didn't I? Point proven; I'm indeed pretty smart if I say so myself
>mfw in my 30s, got a BSc, get paid £52k a year, most valuable member on my pub quiz team, and the person my friends go to for answers
>still don't know what an integer or a prime number is
Name a show with a perfect utopia that has no conflict and boring perfect characters. heh, checkm8 libs
Are these morons really complaining about literal basic sitcom character setups that's been the standard since like the 60s?
THE MAN IS ALWAYS THE FUNNY/MOST IMPORTANT ONE.
THE WOMAN IS ALWAYS THE BORING/GROUNDED ONE.
THAT'S THE PREMISE THAT ALL THESE SHOWS ARE BUILT ON.
Yes. Can you guess why ~~*they*~~ are making threads like this? I'll give you 3 guesses lol
Game of Thrones with Eddard Stark
That’s literally Breaking Bad
Beyond Paradise
Modern family, Phil and Jay are both providers, leaders and respected.