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I've never had to sit in a movie theater with elves or ents.
Why would I accept a modern bmw with a subscription seat heating service?
Put an m3 in there and come back to me
I put m3G80 in there and came back to you
that m3 was made in 2024 you poser carguy
moron
there is no car guy in the world that would say m3 when he thinks e30
you better go spend some time on Cinemaphile before trying again poser
You're literally proving the point by posting yet another m3
Why so schizo pal
>there is no car guy in the world that would say m3 when he thinks e30
Lmao he posts a riced E46 from the shitty NFS games
zoom zoom
>20 years old game
>haha zoomer
So what you are saying is you're older than 35 and still can't afford a crappy bmw. got it.
I don't know how old this meme is but i lol'ed.
>officer Murphy looks down
>there is slight glow around the holster
>he pulls out his glock that now shines strongly
>austrains made it in the first age
>it gleamed, cold and white
>"they are near"
I like them jokes.
But I was not bothered that much
>austrains
There is no such thing. There is only Deutsch, separated by borders.
>Austrians are German
Those shifty, swarthy motherfrickers are Balkanoids at best. Speaking a bastardized version of the German language doesn't make them German.
We are German and our women are hot.
Well the car actually exists, doesn't it?
I dont have a problem with a BMW in my medieval fiction because I'm not a bigot
I have a problem that they chose an ugly BMW instead of a good looking one
>instead of a good looking one
>Dragons
I can't since they were established to be rare.
>Elves
See above. Having them fight at Helms Deep was a mistake.
>Talking threes.
That was well established though.
Is the point of that post implying that a black person in a fantasy is as immersion breaking as a car? If so, is that person moronic?
Random scattered diversity makes no sense in a low-tech pseudo-medieval society. No it's not quite as extreme as a car showing up out of nowhere but for me a random peasant village in a TV show having the demographics of downtown NYC is pretty bad, yes. The principle is the same.
Ethnically mixed areas have existed throughout all of history
Yeah and they always major urban areas at the crux of intersecting international routes. Not tucked away in the buttfricking middle of nowhere Shire.
No, there are literally rural areas all over the world with ethnically mixed populations. Some of the more isolated areas even sometimes tend to retain some of the most extreme ethnic outliers compared to neighboring regions.
can you name any
Sounds disgusting. Imagine the smell.
>The people of Gondor, proud descendants of mighty Numenor, polluted their blood by mixing with Easterlings because... because they just did! They are just like Americans: progressive and open-minded.
You really don't understand what fantasy is, right?
>isolated
>diverse
are you moronic? If it's isolated they have nobody to breed with but each-other and everyone looks the same after a few generations
fricking moron with knowledge about nothing and even less logic
name one
>Random scattered diversity makes no sense in a low-tech pseudo-medieval society. No it's not quite as extreme as a car showing up out of nowhere but for me a random peasant village in a TV show having the demographics of downtown NYC is pretty bad, yes. The principle is the same.
I don't care about the plausibility of it, I just don't want to see Black folk.
The American brain cannot comprehend how alien blacks look to most people.
That might be the interpretation by racist and midwits, but I think it’s more when a movie (usually fantasy) breaks its own internal or universe logic, and people hand wave that inconsistency since there’s talking trees or something fantastical. It reminds me of when an actor in a fantasy show or movie, I think GoT, that used that same argument when people wondered how his character stayed fat while there should have been limited food access for said character. Unless the show established that he was from some race of creatures that stay fat no matter what, his argument is similar to OPs image.
If there is a reasonable explanation given for it being there then yes I can accept it
I feel he looked more than elf than lot of elves casted in LOTR
the doughy haldir or ugly eldron
The actual great cast for elves were arwen and legolas and amazing cast was thranduil in hobbit trilogy.
>I feel he looked more than elf than lot of elves casted in LOTR
If your standards for elves are elder scrolls ones then yeah maybe
It's funny that he's a Silvan elf, who are basically the lesser peasant elves who never saw the light of the two trees. The Noldor are all white in the series.
>The Noldor are all white
True, but they still look atrocious. Elves are supposed to be otherworldly beautiful, remember?
Morf legitimately looked ethereal as Galadriel. I agree about the other Noldor though. Morf was the only good casting.
Rude!
She's got some qt outfits for S2, more more elvish too
Black elves and dwarves didn't ruin the show. Shitty and boring writing and a horrible main character ruined the show. The black elf was just a nothingburger not good or bad and the black dwarf lady was one of the better characters in a show chock full of weak, dull or annoying characterization.
it was both but good luck trying to convince literally anybody that you can still succeed with this model
Sure, but the same people who wrote not-my-Galadriel are the ones who cast Black elves, dwarves and hobbits.
Her giant, choreographed, orchestrally-scored fried chicken praising musical number was a bit excessive imo2bqhsp
People who put black elves ad dwarves in fantasy were never going to write well.
If it was well written the forced diversity would have made it bad either way.
Lotr has no blacks and if it had they wouldn't be in random places like they were normal
Shitty and boring writing is the only outcome from people who want to put Black folk into European fantasy, necessarily shitty and boring writing.
>horrible main character ruined the show
I honestly can't understand how many brainlets they are that do not understand what they are doing with her characters.
She's meant to be horrible and you are meant to find Sauron nice. She's going to get punished hard by the narrative but then come out the other side stronger and better. He's going to be rewarded by it but then descend further into darkness and eventually defeat
>Oh but I saw her face on leBigPoster and I only watch capeslop and starshit so I wanted a character that made me smile and clap when they quippedLeQuip
The characters are written by Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Hannibal and Sopranos screenwriters.
They write messy characters with shifting motivations and even messier relationships. Why you think they are highlighting Galadriel's darkness, Saurons repentive phase and then pairing them up?
Board is full of sub 80iq tardlets I swear.
Is there actually a bmw in these films?
Yea but only for a short moment he drives a 7 Series to a city and yells his name it was really short but it became a meme and now years later we still have to deal with it.
Yeah. He drove a 3 series and he was a total douche' like all 3 series drivers never signaling when changing lanes and shit.
Who? Gandalf? Why would gandalf have a 3 series?
The canon answer was "handling" but I really think it was for the chicks.
Unexplained Black folk in a medieval fantasy setting is a litmus test on whether or not the creators actually care about the IP.
I will explain.
>Q: Why are there wizards running around?
>A: The Great Magical Catastrophe in 1177, year of the Dragon's Seed, caused uncontrolled mana currents to flow into the population centers of the western continent...
>Q: Why do demons emerge from a portal in the sky every few years and try to kill everyone?
>A: The godlike greater will that powers the world is attempting to cull the planet regularly so that humanity can never advance to a stage that will bring about its own destruction...
>Q: Why are the mountains shaped like this? Fault lines don't work that way.
>A: The land was shaped by the Earth Goddess, who sculpted it with her own two hands as an artist would a clay figurine. This was before the gods were forbidden from directly interfering in the mortal world, and....
As you can see, there's an in-universe explanation for these things. Even a D&D game master is expected to come up with this stuff, at the minimum, when designing some campaign world for his friends to play in for some casual Saturday roleplaying.
Now let's see how a professional studio with a budget of billions of dollars handles the Black person question.
>Q: Why is it in a world with no airplanes or even zeppelins, filled with monsters that make overland and sea travel extremely dangerous, the population of every village looks like modern day Baltimore?
>A: Oh shut the frick up, chuddie, you can accept wizards, demons and nonsensical mountain ranges but you can't accept a little bit of diversity? It's 2024.
There you go: they don't care about it. The litmus paper comes out red. The show is a vehicle for real world political slopdeologies; it's in the hands of people who do not like the IP and hate you.
I hate to say it, but the anime troon is right
>see arabs in lotr, is quiet
>needs explanation for black people existing
>A: black people, dwarves, elves have more melanin in their skin. Melanin differentially reflects light such that it reflects a aggregate of wavelengths that then appear to our eyes as "brown. When Morgoth created his ring, when he spread his very essence as evil through the middle earth, it attacked melanin and caused its reduction.
there you silly fricks
Was it in Tolkien's books or notes? No? Not canonical, then. Elves, dwarves and hobbits are white, just like they were in the movies. I don't remember anyone complaining back then, by the way.
whats with the pushing of the goal post
the frick there has fricking mana and talks d&d inventing stuff
yes haradrim, from the different "country" across ocean except lol it literally borders gondor
The point is that you lack logical consistency in your ravings.
Explain to me the leap of logic required to go from "there are dark-skined humans in the world" to "non-human races sudenly can have different skin colors despite being created by actual gods relativly recently"
Just like humans are different height, or have different color hair, so does other races have different color hair and different color eyes. And shockingly skin color goes similarly...
Was it big leap of logic?
Sure. These guys, minor gods of angelic beauty, just decided one day that it would be funny to give different skin colors to the races they created. For no reason at all.
indeed
we discussed haradrim
races, even unto the level of distinct tribes, have extremely common and constant physical characteristics that are stagnant and unchanging from generation to generation provided no mixture occurs, in the case of mixture, the dominant complety replaces the minority
groups in the LOTR universe remain fairly isolate, in a society undergoing a process of intermixture it is expected that phenotypes from both parent stocks be present in the mixed society, all societies except those that are already subsumed or described to be mostly dead already are given descriptions in which only a single and dominant phenotype is present
southern gondorians, especially those further west along the coasts are described as shorter, swarthier, and stockier than gondorians with a greater amount of numenorean blood (as contrasted with the prince of dol amroth), the book makes a broad generalization of a whole group of people purely to show how, as a people, they are different from another
harad is a dumb example, there are three different regions within harad and the total land area is larger than the kingdom of arnor
residents of southern gondor below the anduin are politically haradrim but are described as not different from their northern bretheren, but effort is made to describe haradrim, and the description of these haradrim differs from that of south gondorians, so we can only assume that harad is not wholly uniform in genetics and that the mumakil riders are wholly different from those others who technically reside in harad
>except lol it literally borders gondor
like Africa its 14 miles from Spain.
>>see arabs in lotr, is quiet
...You mean the arabs who were from another country, invading? The ones who were from across the ocean, arriving in a massive unified military force as part of Sauron's call to arms as he was drawing all evil to him to take over Middle Earth? Those arabs?
It's not that they exist at all, you 40 IQ cave troll, it's when they're peppered throughout the setting like modern America without any justification. If the "arabs in lotr" were all over the place and we had muslim hobbits in the shire you would have a point, but it's like you're being disingenuous on purpose.
>but it's like you're being disingenuous on purpose.
Pretty obviously so
No it's pretty obvious that anon is a complete moron who was incensed by a post he didn't understand and rushed to make a poorly thought strawman out of it. He's already trying to get off on some kind of technicality like your typical leftist because I mixed up the movie's pirates and the haradrim when the original point still stands. It has literally nothing to do with them merely existing.
Here's another example of the writers not caring about the IP: the Zerrikaneans in The Witcher.
Described as strange looking exotic beauties from a distant land, the two Zerrikanean guards draw many eyes, as Zerrikanea is nigh impossible to travel to and from because of how inhospitable the only known routes are. It's then revealed that the man they're guarding is a shapeshifted dragon who could very well border hop them to the kingdoms.
Of course in the show, over 50% of the entire Northern Kingdoms look exactly like them. The lack of internal logic tears itself apart as they still try to play them off as strange looking foreign warrior princesses. Why is this the case? Why is it like this? The explanation is an external one; the show merely exists as a racial political vehicle.
>Zerrikaneans
This is so predictable and lame. You know, I am old enough to remember the old Polish adaptation. It does justice to this story from the first book. But these days, we can't have something created by Slavs as it is, frick no. It must be turned into another sort of American shit.
Dark skin IS the evil. It's the curse that warns they world that the person they're dealing with has a dark, twisted, evil heart of violence and greed.
This post is too smart for this board.
Not really. He just accepts that there's a in universe reason for the things he likes but then can only comprehend an out of universe reason for things he doesn't like.
>but then can only comprehend an out of universe reason for things he doesn't like
Because the people making the material didn't come up with in-universe reason. That's the whole point of the post.
>If there's not an exposition dump for everything then there's no reason
I don't really watch this nerd shit but is there an in universe reason why most of the characters are white?
If you watched this "nerd shit" you'd know that a very significant portion of each film is the characters traveling from point A to point B. It takes them 40 days to move a few inches on the world map. There's no fast industrialized travel.
If you can't extrapolate why that alone would answer your question you might be too moronic for this board which is an achievement in and of itself.
>Give me an in universe reason why most of the characters are white
>"uhh they walk a lot"
???
>duhhhh why would vast distances between civilizations in a setting with medieval technology mean that regions are ethnically homogeneous?
So you're just a fricking moron? You're the kind of caricature that appears in a strawman comic to show the reader how outlandishly, inhumanly stupid the opposition is. You can't be real, you're such a dumbass it's incredible. Worship of Black folk has rotted your brain.
Imagine an alternate universe where the Kushites ruled Egypt for 1000 years and they sailed trading ships across the Mediterranean.
Were the kushites exclusively shipping Black folk everywhere for a millennium? Weird how real world demographics didn't start looking like Detroit until mass industrialized intercontinental travel for literally anyone was brought about.
Do you consider 17th-century slave ships to be examples of modern industrialized intercontinental travel? I used to make this argument too, that modern diversity is only possible because of modern transportation technology. But I wondered what would be the most direct way for sub-Saharan Africans to spread to Europe by the Middle Ages, and I concluded that it would have to be by going through Egypt.
>Do you consider 17th-century slave ships to be examples of modern industrialized intercontinental travel?
It's more than literally nothing, but not quite what I mean. You've got the capability for mass transport, albeit crude, and you've got a reason they're being transported over. Slavery in the U.S. is why you can have black characters in some American period piece and nobody will really care. But if you did the same thing for London your audience is asking, what the frick, why?
Modern travel more refers to how easy it is for masses of people from say Somalia to relatively easily immigrate to a country on the other side of the planet using today's conveniences to completely shift the demographics of an area.
Also consider what the issue is, which is ultra giga diverse societies in these medieval settings. Consider something like the witcher netflix series where every town has more blacks and indians than anything else.
You've already put significantly more thought and care into this hypothetical than any writer or showrunner has. The showrunner for the witcher answered the question of why it's so diverse, and the answer was purely real world political with offense taken that you're not blind to the casting choices.
Why even buy a BMW?
B58 inline 6
Because humans are the audience surrogate, moron. Why would fantasy worlds just so happen to always have humans in the first place? Because we want to see ourselves in there.
Yeah, ourselves. Humans. Not Black folk.
There is no relevant difference. Look close enough to even white person and the illusion is dispelled and you see humans for the uppity narcissistic apes they are, always trying to pretend they are greater than the other animals yet also falling into the exact same traps and savage behaviors.
crappity flappity snap
Thanks for proving me right with your animalistic baying.
penis butt
>not dark
>not with you at my side
Anyone else kinda started to like it after a while?
Nope. Thousands of years old Galadriel acting like an autistic child is still unwatchable.
take it up with tolkien
he wrote her stubborn, prideful and sometimes furious
now you see show that tries to soften the girlboss accept by giving her some flaws
and all you lot can muster is - but she is old she should not act like that
I saw Lady Galadriel whom Tolkien wrote, in the LOTR movie adaptation. I dont need Amazon's bad fan fiction.
No, I can't accept that, because in most settings with dragons and elves, the technology for a car doesn't exist, let alone a specific car from the real world.
Also, heated seating has not been optional on any car for at least 20 years. Especially not on a high end BMW.
What about Volkswagen? German cars are surely good enough for this racist setting.
Name a single franchise where it's specifically stated that people with dark skin cannot exist, that went on to have dark skinned character in one of its installments.
name a single franchise where it's specifically state that an internal combustion engine cannot exist
>Name a single franchise
Mistborn. Lord-Ruler spared only specific races, while himself belonging to a slightly tawny one. There are no blacks or asians in the Final Empire.
They exist in the africa of said setting. And if it's fantasy they have no way of moving from there
why are you posting a screencap instead of just remaking the post?
Evil cannot create.
>Is that... a heckin coloured person in my wizard slop?!? Nooooooooooo, that's just not how that world works. They simply cannot exist in that world because... they just can't, okay?!?!?
It's brings joy to my heart to see demonic screams from people like you when someone resists your agenda. You will never corrupt fantasy with Black folks and sodomites. Original books will forever remain pure.
They shouldn't exist in this world, either.
>heu heu I'm so edgy
you do the same thing as women when you pretend your strawman is what the other side is actually saying
my girlfriend has to put words in my mouth in order to “win” our fights (in which she is always wrong and literally knows it)
liberals are women
Putting words into other people's mouths is what this board has always done in order to "win" arguments. If I say something somebody doesn't like, they will quote me with something completely different that I didn't say accompanied by a troonjak or something because that means you magically win.
if you think this post makes strawmanning not a fallacy that’s your own admission of guilt
lol like clockwork
Than you can't complain about anime robots in LOTR, moron
Non whites don't belong in european fantasy settings
If one of the characters claim that the setting takes place in Europe you'd have a point.
Not really, it just need to look like Europe, take the Lord of the Rings as an example, it's not Europe but you can clearly see it's based off Europe therefore non whites look out of place in it
As does a great many things.
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> >Is that... a heckin coloured person in my wizard slop?!? Nooooooooooo, that's just not how that world works. They simply cannot exist in that world because... they just can't, okay?!?!?
How about I just hate Black folk and don't want to see them, is that better?
GOD WHO CARES IT'S FRICKING STUPID ANYWAY?!
IN THE NAME OF SAINT FLOYD, I DO BESEECH THEE SHEKELSTEIN TO ADD ANOTHER BUCK BROKEN ELF INTO A SHOW ABOUT ROCKS
>I want blacks in fantasy
>Cool! We look forward to the new settings you will create
>No, I want blacks in fantasy that already exist, like LotR
>Sorry, there are no blacks there, just some Arab-looking guys in the East. This is the world's lore
>Change lore for me, right now!
>No
>Racist!
It's a circular problem really. Nobody wants to greenlight something that doesn't have a built in audience of some kind. It's why every fantasy setting is the same old medieval europe rip off over and over again too and nobody does anything else.
Until we can have an all white modern world, nobody will fantasize about living in it.
Not true. There were interesting settings, even in DnD that is known for being generic. DarkSun, Eberron, Midnight. They were met with indifference, while medieval slop thrived. They had exotic races of all types, but people still push blacks into LotR or A Song of Ice and Fire. It is almost like nobody cares about originality, but some people do care a lot about their political agenda.
Are there other cars in the movie or just that one?
too late.
It's called verosimilitude and correct worldbuilding
Um it's called truthlikeness in english buttwipe
Imagine the charge of the rohirrim but instead of knights riding horses they were rednecks driving pickup trucks
According to woketards nothing would change
And instead of them charging into hordes orcs they were driving into hordes of minorities XD
The left can't meme, Jesus Christ
>and thats when i turned them into a 30 year old neckbeard caricature, because i was mad!
I don't get it.
why cant anti white people debunk this one? they always falter
Just an elaborate I AM SILLY meme based around a strawman. The more I see it posted the more convinced I am that it's posted ironically to make fun of anons here.
Black people in fantasy doesn’t bother me but expecting me to care and or making it a bigger deal than it is does
about to be pieced up by Gandzalf
Which scene does the Ork get his cyber gear ripped out by the elf adept? What part of the reawakened world is this taking place in? And where the frick is the decker?
you should try Might and Magic series games lmao.
Credit where it's due, Elder Scrolls has pretty compelling rational for the existence of its different races. Redguards have a pretty distinct culture too
>Me, trying to watch Outer Range season 2
>episode 4 is full blown communist power fantasy about Lesbian Indian Fat b***h Timetravelling and Capping White Men