No spoilers but the plot twist at the end was fricking stupid, not the space mental illness that share the same name as the movie but the thing that explained why there were no stars visible through the ship's deck.
You would think there would some sensors and other clues that indicated they were where they were.
However everything form the concept to the execution the set design and even acting chops of most people was on point, it's a comfy movie.
Nah I never had any problems with that, it had great set designs and special effects. For me it's just that the plot twist at the end is just too plot-hole-y
I would say it's a bit like Event Horizon or Sunshine. Flaws that are not ignorable but the whole experience has also many enjoyable part so the movie grows on you.
exactly I guess spoilers for a 15 year old movie but it's just The Descent in a spaceship stuck in the bottom of an ocean for 900 years, but that's inherently such a great concept
I thought it was kino, if just for everyone's reaction when the blast shield gets lowered and everyone stops fighting and stares out into the black void in shock until the girl says "oh my god, where did the stars go?"
I would say it's a bit like Event Horizon or Sunshine. Flaws that are not ignorable but the whole experience has also many enjoyable part so the movie grows on you.
I guess the idea was that things were so chaotic in the ship, with so many malfunctions, and a breakdown of cooperation, that no one could know anything for sure. And the computers don't let just anybody access the sensors or the logs.
Still a hard sell. Space ships have no reason to be designed to withstand the pressure of being underwater. Especially deep enough to be in the dark. I guess they could argue that it's a different composition of water and/or the sun doesn't have the same light frequency so it doesn't go as deep.
And gravity doesn't let them know immediately that they've landed on something so there must be some kind of super-advanced artificial gravity system that just keeps working even though everything is breaking down? And no one can tell if the system is on or off?
>However everything form the concept to the execution the set design and even acting chops of most people was on point, it's a comfy movie.
The concept was cool for a sci-fi, but it ended up just being a lame slasher flick, jump scares and endless chases through dark corridors. They went all in on the le stronk mary sue trope too.
I keep forgetting this movie exists and then find myself remembering snippets of individual scenes and briefly wondering if they're from a real movie or just something I dreamed about
It's also almost certainly what powers Eywa, which is why the Na'vi gravitate towards area with huge deposits of the metal. So they'd be killing the god planet too
> Why didn't they nuke the tree of life? > Why didn't they use "rods from God" to kill the blue Black folk? > Why did they fly so low when they had aerial superiority? > Why is the marine commander such a shitty commander?
I would pay money to see a movie where whites violently put down a less technologically sophisticated foe. Whether it's blue tree fricking Black folk or conquistadors fricking Aztecs.
> Why didn't they nuke the tree of life?
The closest nuke was a 8 light year round trip away and they were in a hurry > Why didn't they use "rods from God" to kill the blue Black folk?
Because guns helicopters and robot suits were perfectly good at killing blue Black folk. There is not a single confrontation between blue Black folk and helicopters and mech suits that the blue Black folk win. > Why did they fly so low when they had aerial superiority?
Because there are floating mountains above the target. If they fly higher, and drop bombs, the bombs will not impact the target, they will impact the floating mountain above the target. To hit the target, you have to fly under the floating mountains.
If Pandora doesn't want to be harvested and exploited, then why does it have room temperature superconductors and immortality juice??? It's like they're asking for it
Yeah I should have said in the first movie. In the second one Neytiri has super powers and it's kind of bullshit. That being said, this battle ends with the blue Black folk falling back with large losses that they can't easily replace (there's not many of them in the tribe anymore) while the RDA loses two helicopters, one train, and one section of train tracks that they can easily replace. This is probably the biggest victory the blue Black folk achieve on their own without the help of human technology, or megafauna.
because it was under the hometree
can't get it without cutting down the home of the blue shits
> Why didn't they nuke the tree of life? > Why didn't they use "rods from God" to kill the blue Black folk? > Why did they fly so low when they had aerial superiority? > Why is the marine commander such a shitty commander?
I would pay money to see a movie where whites violently put down a less technologically sophisticated foe. Whether it's blue tree fricking Black folk or conquistadors fricking Aztecs.
Wait so when they chased Jake out of the forest and into the water, did they finally go back to the hometree and kill everyone so that they could take the unobtanium?
>Any questions, fellas?
"Sir, How much Unobtanium/Amrita do we need to gather with our $5bil Avatars to break even on this interstellar expedition, Sir?"
Reminder that Mansk (the meme cop-looking one) got the lamest death. Jake threw a body at him and that's it. He presumably got knocked unconscious and drowned in the ship.
Why didn't they just bomb the shit out of the place for a few years from space? Or just crash a big object from space and wait a few years...all life is gone.
They're not actually genocidal. And it's far easier to mine when all they need is a face mask instead of the hazard gear they'd need if they completely trashed the planet. Besides, they may actually want to colonize the place at some point, it's pretty awesome and they have the ability to put people into bodies that can live there.
Some moron added it in around 2009 without providing a source. It's been like that forever and no one has bothered to remove it because. Either because it fills in a simple plot hole or no one has really bothered to check the sources. The UN is not mentioned anywhere in any past or present lore book.
Some moron added it in around 2009 without providing a source. It's been like that forever and no one has bothered to remove it because. Either because it fills in a simple plot hole or no one has really bothered to check the sources. The UN is not mentioned anywhere in any past or present lore book.
drop a starship on the navi and say it was an accident
I frickin laughed when they started to explain how those whales are super mega ultra awesome species, and how horrible we are for hunting them. Cameron does know it's not the 80/90s anymore, right?
The only way this makes sense is that the economy somehow deflated instead. Like $80 million is the equivalent of $1 billion or so today
he never mentions in what currency it is, could be some future currency that is worth a lot more.
Amarita's value still doesn't make any sense though because by the time they're extracting it in the movie humans have only been back on Pandora for about a year so they wouldn't have been able to get any of it back to Earth. Also how did they figure out it had those properties, build a fleet of whaling ships, hire actual whalers and establish an economy during that short time?
If Pandora doesn't want to be harvested and exploited, then why does it have room temperature superconductors and immortality juice??? It's like they're asking for it
Na'vi are for: >holding hands >making babies >wives >consensual sex only >speciesmixing >dating >love >kissing >hugging >spooning >snuggling >smiles >waifus >massaging behind the ears >massaging the base of their tails >keeping secrets >best friends >friends >neighbors >petting >nibbling ears >positive comments >role models >fitness >a standard human women will never reach >starting a family with >proposing to >marriage >pregnant belly rubs >romance >honeymoons >introducing to your parents >stable relationships >connecting queues >not rape >comforting >worshipping Eywa >dreams >happiniess >not purging >not hating >not drugging >spreading Eywa across the galaxy >having their culture preserved and practiced >choosing wedding rings with >long romantic walks in the forest with >kicking pervy humans off their lands >treating with romantic dinners >taking nice relaxing hot springs baths with >talking their beautiful language >post-sex bedtalk and snuggling >top of the line educations >benevolent uplifting >extended tropical vacations >following the laws of Eywa >Tulkun soulmates
unobtainium obviously. that certain je-ne-sais-quoi thingy that kinda looks like a rock but metaphorically I think it's representative of something else... something un-obtainable? Not sure
The story shits itself when you realize they have satellites.
Boomer and millennial writer still don't understand how satellites and intelligence works. >be earth megacorp looking for unobtainium >have a way to detect unobtainium >look at future prospect sites >Oh shit, there's a big fricking tree with natives in it >Meh, we'll just go to the next site, it will be cheaper than relocation and fricking with moralgay scientists
At least, in Dune, they had the guild excuse.
>Cause that’s where the blue pusspuss is!
I liked Pandorum. So, sue me.
>ben foster
so it's at least decent
No spoilers but the plot twist at the end was fricking stupid, not the space mental illness that share the same name as the movie but the thing that explained why there were no stars visible through the ship's deck.
You would think there would some sensors and other clues that indicated they were where they were.
However everything form the concept to the execution the set design and even acting chops of most people was on point, it's a comfy movie.
Yeah, I'd say, we can chalk up any negatives of the film, to it having a relatively small budget.
Nah I never had any problems with that, it had great set designs and special effects. For me it's just that the plot twist at the end is just too plot-hole-y
exactly I guess spoilers for a 15 year old movie but it's just The Descent in a spaceship stuck in the bottom of an ocean for 900 years, but that's inherently such a great concept
I thought it was kino, if just for everyone's reaction when the blast shield gets lowered and everyone stops fighting and stares out into the black void in shock until the girl says "oh my god, where did the stars go?"
I would say it's a bit like Event Horizon or Sunshine. Flaws that are not ignorable but the whole experience has also many enjoyable part so the movie grows on you.
Add Screamers and Virus to it.
Arguably also Hardware
sunshine has no flaws
Eh, too many moronic choices and moments, little by little, creep in and loses in the finale.
I guess the idea was that things were so chaotic in the ship, with so many malfunctions, and a breakdown of cooperation, that no one could know anything for sure. And the computers don't let just anybody access the sensors or the logs.
Still a hard sell. Space ships have no reason to be designed to withstand the pressure of being underwater. Especially deep enough to be in the dark. I guess they could argue that it's a different composition of water and/or the sun doesn't have the same light frequency so it doesn't go as deep.
And gravity doesn't let them know immediately that they've landed on something so there must be some kind of super-advanced artificial gravity system that just keeps working even though everything is breaking down? And no one can tell if the system is on or off?
>No spoilers
>Mentions there's a twist
You fricking moron.
>However everything form the concept to the execution the set design and even acting chops of most people was on point, it's a comfy movie.
The concept was cool for a sci-fi, but it ended up just being a lame slasher flick, jump scares and endless chases through dark corridors. They went all in on the le stronk mary sue trope too.
Very disappointing movie.
I keep forgetting this movie exists and then find myself remembering snippets of individual scenes and briefly wondering if they're from a real movie or just something I dreamed about
who didnt?
Is this Kansas?
SIR I GOT LOST ON MY WAY TO KANSAS SIR!
YOU'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE
YOU'RE ON PANDORA
White Male Blue Female (WMBW)
Why didn't they just ask for Unobtanium?
because it was under the hometree
can't get it without cutting down the home of the blue shits
It's also almost certainly what powers Eywa, which is why the Na'vi gravitate towards area with huge deposits of the metal. So they'd be killing the god planet too
it was all over the place
the hometree was just a rich deposit in the nearby area
> Why didn't they nuke the tree of life?
> Why didn't they use "rods from God" to kill the blue Black folk?
> Why did they fly so low when they had aerial superiority?
> Why is the marine commander such a shitty commander?
I would pay money to see a movie where whites violently put down a less technologically sophisticated foe. Whether it's blue tree fricking Black folk or conquistadors fricking Aztecs.
>Conqistadors
>White
Came to post this. Clips of Zulu give sois heart attacks.
> Why didn't they nuke the tree of life?
The closest nuke was a 8 light year round trip away and they were in a hurry
> Why didn't they use "rods from God" to kill the blue Black folk?
Because guns helicopters and robot suits were perfectly good at killing blue Black folk. There is not a single confrontation between blue Black folk and helicopters and mech suits that the blue Black folk win.
> Why did they fly so low when they had aerial superiority?
Because there are floating mountains above the target. If they fly higher, and drop bombs, the bombs will not impact the target, they will impact the floating mountain above the target. To hit the target, you have to fly under the floating mountains.
She wants it anon. She desperately wants it.
>There is not a single confrontation between blue Black folk and helicopters and mech suits that the blue nigge- ACK!.
Yeah I should have said in the first movie. In the second one Neytiri has super powers and it's kind of bullshit. That being said, this battle ends with the blue Black folk falling back with large losses that they can't easily replace (there's not many of them in the tribe anymore) while the RDA loses two helicopters, one train, and one section of train tracks that they can easily replace. This is probably the biggest victory the blue Black folk achieve on their own without the help of human technology, or megafauna.
Wait so when they chased Jake out of the forest and into the water, did they finally go back to the hometree and kill everyone so that they could take the unobtanium?
Yes. The train they attacked near the beginning of Avatar 2 was carrying unobtainium.
That literally happens in the opening of the movie
They did ask, but obviously the locals aren't much a fan of "Hey can we burn down your home so we can dig up a funny rock".
>Any questions, fellas?
"Sir, How much Unobtanium/Amrita do we need to gather with our $5bil Avatars to break even on this interstellar expedition, Sir?"
>Yes, why are we gonna be on Pandora again?
To have anal sex with male Na'vi aliens.
>Yes, when is this free weekend, and how much are you charging?
My body is ready.
Uohhhhhh
navi have smaller wieners than humans, btw.
pic not related.
>believing literal RDA propaganda
lmao i seriously hope you guys etc etc
That large wiener was built into Jake's avatar too and one of the reasons Neytiri was so enthralled with him
That's why they make perfect bottoms.
Are the sequels ever going to put Na'vi on Earth?
Avatar 5 will. Kiri will go back to Earth to become the planet's spirit and fix the problems humanity has created there
Sounds dumb enough to be true.
that's a big gum, did the RDA make special size for them?
yes, they have special size everything
zhang looks like putin
>add a chinese avatar
>give him the lingling queue hairstyle
how did this get past xi pingpings censors???
Reminder that Mansk (the meme cop-looking one) got the lamest death. Jake threw a body at him and that's it. He presumably got knocked unconscious and drowned in the ship.
They cut a shot of Jake emptying his gun into him.
each pound of unobtanium weighs over 10000 pounds
Are you righteous?
Kind?
Does your confidence lie in this?
Are you loved by all?
This is a film Cameron wish he could imitate with the beautiful nature cinematography. That and The New World.
unfortunately that requires soul, which you can't buy with 500 millions budgets
malik's soul is taking 4 years and counting o edit a movie
so putting time and effort into making proper art? Yes, that's how it should be
>Dad, I...
What? Speak up, homosexual. Jakesully didn't raise no pussy that couldn't finish his sentences
use your man voice marine, tracking? roger? hoorah that's how we do it in the corps
oh shit
MEDIC
That would make a good place for a McDonald’s after the colonizing
Can't wait to turn all the Na'vi into fatties. Just think of all the fields of corn that can be planted there!
Why didn't they just bomb the shit out of the place for a few years from space? Or just crash a big object from space and wait a few years...all life is gone.
Because Cameron needed his blue cat pocahontas story to happen.
Or just bring over mosquitos vectoring the usual tropical diseases or even the coof?
eywa mogs any bioweapon we can engineer
>Not Agent Orange the frick out of that place.
They're not actually genocidal. And it's far easier to mine when all they need is a face mask instead of the hazard gear they'd need if they completely trashed the planet. Besides, they may actually want to colonize the place at some point, it's pretty awesome and they have the ability to put people into bodies that can live there.
According to lore RDA is banned from taking WMD to Pandora by some UN treaty
Some moron added it in around 2009 without providing a source. It's been like that forever and no one has bothered to remove it because. Either because it fills in a simple plot hole or no one has really bothered to check the sources. The UN is not mentioned anywhere in any past or present lore book.
drop a starship on the navi and say it was an accident
Space whale brains.
Unobtanium? Nobody orders that anymore.
kek'd
loads of others are coming.
I frickin laughed when they started to explain how those whales are super mega ultra awesome species, and how horrible we are for hunting them. Cameron does know it's not the 80/90s anymore, right?
all boomers are like that
plus, they now have the woke mindvirus on top of the old ones
what environment will they go to next? back to the jungle? will there be any snow or desert movies?
James Cameron said the next one will be fire related. Volcanos and islanders. Fire tribe.
>Avatar 3: The Way of Lava.
Oh damn I was hoping for steppe and horselords
We've seen concept art
A fraction of $80 million doesn't seem like a lot for eternal youth. Any well known actor/actress could afford it.
*especially considering inflation between now and 2169.
it "stops" aging but who knows for how long. Might be something you have to take every month
The only way this makes sense is that the economy somehow deflated instead. Like $80 million is the equivalent of $1 billion or so today
he never mentions in what currency it is, could be some future currency that is worth a lot more.
Amarita's value still doesn't make any sense though because by the time they're extracting it in the movie humans have only been back on Pandora for about a year so they wouldn't have been able to get any of it back to Earth. Also how did they figure out it had those properties, build a fleet of whaling ships, hire actual whalers and establish an economy during that short time?
I want to see more of future Earth!
It'll just be diet Blade Runner.
When can I buy a crab sub?
a na'vi would be absolutely awestruck and smiling from ears to ear if it saw this
They fly now!?
crab should've been orange
Because they stand for everything we don't stand for
Why's it named Pandora
>Pandora? I hardly even know her!
If Pandora doesn't want to be harvested and exploited, then why does it have room temperature superconductors and immortality juice??? It's like they're asking for it
> How do I get out of this chicken shit outfit?
Na'vi are for:
>holding hands
>making babies
>wives
>consensual sex only
>speciesmixing
>dating
>love
>kissing
>hugging
>spooning
>snuggling
>smiles
>waifus
>massaging behind the ears
>massaging the base of their tails
>keeping secrets
>best friends
>friends
>neighbors
>petting
>nibbling ears
>positive comments
>role models
>fitness
>a standard human women will never reach
>starting a family with
>proposing to
>marriage
>pregnant belly rubs
>romance
>honeymoons
>introducing to your parents
>stable relationships
>connecting queues
>not rape
>comforting
>worshipping Eywa
>dreams
>happiniess
>not purging
>not hating
>not drugging
>spreading Eywa across the galaxy
>having their culture preserved and practiced
>choosing wedding rings with
>long romantic walks in the forest with
>kicking pervy humans off their lands
>treating with romantic dinners
>taking nice relaxing hot springs baths with
>talking their beautiful language
>post-sex bedtalk and snuggling
>top of the line educations
>benevolent uplifting
>extended tropical vacations
>following the laws of Eywa
>Tulkun soulmates
I see you and death to RDA cucks
>do we input our hours on earth time or pandora time
HOW MANY TIMES TO I HAVE TO TELL YOU
THIS IS WHAT WE DO AT THE RDA
WHITE MEN AND BLUE WOMEN ONLY
*is scarred for life after a day of constant life-threatening terror and death*
poor Tuk 🙁
I was hoping for Tukposting and I am not disappointed. She cute.
Tuk is a wonder of the universe and must be protected
Adorable, though it is nice to see her expression when she's scared.
unobtainium obviously. that certain je-ne-sais-quoi thingy that kinda looks like a rock but metaphorically I think it's representative of something else... something un-obtainable? Not sure
Good visuals and no story the movie
>From the sick and twisted mind of James Cameron...
The story shits itself when you realize they have satellites.
Boomer and millennial writer still don't understand how satellites and intelligence works.
>be earth megacorp looking for unobtainium
>have a way to detect unobtainium
>look at future prospect sites
>Oh shit, there's a big fricking tree with natives in it
>Meh, we'll just go to the next site, it will be cheaper than relocation and fricking with moralgay scientists
At least, in Dune, they had the guild excuse.
Anyone got any nice Tuk images?
She looks like she fricks human men
I hate those blue treeBlack folk so much
The 2nd one was so fun to see in the theatre. Was like we never left.
These are literally the only good movies to look forward to. Everything else is woke goyslop