God this "cultural guilt" line of thinking is going to result in some mass purge eventually, isn't it? I mean it's happened before and it's happening now, just not in the countries people pretend to care about
He was going to drown a huge amount of earth kingdom people, instead of liberating the village by publicly executing the dudes holding the village like a true based mao/stalin chad he instead was going to sink the whole village like a homosexual.
Reminds me of when the Chinese nationalists used flooding to slow the Japanese army and killed hundreds of thousands of their own people in the process
those chinese were going to experience rape and many forms of tortured if they weren't lucky enough to get a bullet in the head.
honest still think drowning by my own people would be worse.
Yeah but it didn't exactly help the legitimacy of the nationalists when it comes to public image
Though lets be real I doubt there was a single Chinese political body in the entire country that could have put up a proper resistance to the Japanese, the Nationalists were just unlucky enough to be in control when it happened
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The chinese just generally treat their own population as very expandable.
Ancient chinese history is absolutely fricking wild.
Before the earliest version of Rome even existed, the chinese were having wars of half a million combatants
I mean Historically China views the Life of civilians as holding practically a net negative value in the grand scheme of things by it's leaders.
Still does too
Better than the communists who both let the Japanese in and allowed their people to be brutalized rather than help in the war. At least the nationalists were actually fighting the invaders instead of hiding in the mountain like cowards.
>6 million airbenders simultaneously in 4 different temples spread over the entire world outside of Fire Nation territory? And none of them just flew away as the Fire Nation slowly ascended their mountains? Honestly, Zuzu.
Reminds me of when the Chinese nationalists used flooding to slow the Japanese army and killed hundreds of thousands of their own people in the process
He's wrong.
I haven't watched the video and don't intend to, I just know he's wrong because he's Vaush.
Jet did nothing wrong. Anyone who shows mercy to occupying genociders deserves nothing less than death. Jet was the only character who gave the Fire Nation what they deserved.
Even Ozai is seen as evil but also as a part of his environment, that's the point of Sozin being cool until he isn't. The point of avatar is that no one is inherently bad an even if you come from that system you can overcome it even if it's hard like Zuko did.
>this dude didn't understand shit from ATLAS, no one is a ''villain'' or a ''hero''. The characters are more complex than that.
Even Ozai is seen as evil but also as a part of his environment, that's the point of Sozin being cool until he isn't. The point of avatar is that no one is inherently bad an even if you come from that system you can overcome it even if it's hard like Zuko did.
>Even Ozai is seen as evil but also as a part of his environment, that's the point of Sozin being cool until he isn't. The point of avatar is that no one is inherently bad an even if you come from that system you can overcome it even if it's hard like Zuko did.
People's inability to grasp nuance, complicated morality and morally ambiguous characters, so much so in fact that they resort to watching Capeshit is frightening.
>People's inability to grasp nuance, complicated morality and morally ambiguous characters, so much so in fact that they resort to watching Capeshit is frightening.
Legacy of the Fire Nation, along with the comics, implies that Ozai was always evil to the point that pre-redemption Iroh distanced himself from him.
Don't know what those guys were high on. Even without any supplementary material the dude was always just a cartoony evil bad guy with zero nuance. Basically just Azula without anything that made Azula interesting.
>Don't know what those guys were high on. Even without any supplementary material the dude was always just a cartoony evil bad guy with zero nuance. Basically just Azula without anything that made Azula interesting.
Because in order to keep him a mysterious badass, they kept him in the shadows for 2 seasons before barely spending any time on him before his Sozin's Comet battle and defeat even though he is the leader of the villain fraction, Zuko and Azula's father/abuser, Iroh's brother, and (technically) Mai and Ty Lee's boss.
Like some of the filler in S3 needed to be taken out so we could have developed the Fire Nation characters move imo.
Was kept as a mystery for far too long, it gave me the impression that he should have died when Zuko re-directed the lightning against him but did not due to the plot BS of 'Aang mastering the elements to defeat the firelord.'
When he got zapped by Aang on that final fight that shot was cool af
>Don't know what those guys were high on. Even without any supplementary material the dude was always just a cartoony evil bad guy with zero nuance. Basically just Azula without anything that made Azula interesting.
Because in order to keep him a mysterious badass, they kept him in the shadows for 2 seasons before barely spending any time on him before his Sozin's Comet battle and defeat even though he is the leader of the villain fraction, Zuko and Azula's father/abuser, Iroh's brother, and (technically) Mai and Ty Lee's boss.
Like some of the filler in S3 needed to be taken out so we could have developed the Fire Nation characters move imo.
Is that the video where the guy with a woman's profile name keeps randomly ranting about capitalism and how real communism has never been tried and would totally work?
Is this the video where a guy says that having an anarchist villain is dumb because "anarchism is the most nonsensical ideology"
I mean he wasn't wrong, but he was wrong to say that it was bad for a villain to be an anarchist
>Cinemaphile mods banned people and delete threads over people making fun of Ezra miller and Amber heard >Let’s Vaush shill on Cinemaphile again
Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile might as well be the same board.
It’s amazing how everyone here shows they didn’t see the fricking video. Vaush says that Jet was bad and that the main cast were doing the whole “revolutionaries take down oppressive force” without drowning innocent people. Is this board always full of morons who don’t watch or read the bullshit you all complain about?
>Is this board always full of morons who don’t watch or read the bullshit you all complain about?
With Vaush you can most of the time just assume the worst.
This is the same guy that said that people should 'submit themselves to the mob' if they're being chased after instead of defending themselves and spent like 2 hours in a 'debate' with Count Dankula trying to 'prove' he is a nazi just to admit that he isn't the second he left the debate.
He also said that the uncontacted tribes of North Sentinel Island and elsewhere should be made contact with, knowing that such an action would introduce so many diseases it would damn near kill the whole tribe just because he hates the idea of an ethnostate so much that he thinks that not even some random uncontacted tribe should have one, even if it protects them from plague
Having actually watched the video, Vaush ultimately agrees that Jet was a villain, but complains about the trope in media of having revolutionary movements fighting against actual oppressive systems being portrayed as bad because they go "too far", a trope people on Cinemaphile have also commonly complained about.
People's inability to grasp nuance, complicated morality and morally ambiguous characters, so much so in fact that they resort to watching Capeshit is frightening.
>literally tries to drown children
Genociding colonizers is good, actually
God this "cultural guilt" line of thinking is going to result in some mass purge eventually, isn't it? I mean it's happened before and it's happening now, just not in the countries people pretend to care about
He was going to drown a huge amount of earth kingdom people, instead of liberating the village by publicly executing the dudes holding the village like a true based mao/stalin chad he instead was going to sink the whole village like a homosexual.
Reminds me of when the Chinese nationalists used flooding to slow the Japanese army and killed hundreds of thousands of their own people in the process
those chinese were going to experience rape and many forms of tortured if they weren't lucky enough to get a bullet in the head.
honest still think drowning by my own people would be worse.
Yeah but it didn't exactly help the legitimacy of the nationalists when it comes to public image
Though lets be real I doubt there was a single Chinese political body in the entire country that could have put up a proper resistance to the Japanese, the Nationalists were just unlucky enough to be in control when it happened
The chinese just generally treat their own population as very expandable.
... nah, i'd rather drown tbh.
That's not the worst way to win a battle in china
Ancient chinese history is absolutely fricking wild.
Before the earliest version of Rome even existed, the chinese were having wars of half a million combatants
I mean Historically China views the Life of civilians as holding practically a net negative value in the grand scheme of things by it's leaders.
Still does too
I get the feeling that, historically, more Chinese civilians have been killed than ever actually lived to begin with.
Better than the communists who both let the Japanese in and allowed their people to be brutalized rather than help in the war. At least the nationalists were actually fighting the invaders instead of hiding in the mountain like cowards.
and how many children did the fire nation burn alive?
apparently little since some earth benders integrated
>Ignores the Air Nomad children that were burned to death.
All Fire Nation sympathizers need to GTFO.
>He thinks it really happened
Your acting like the genocide even happend
>6 million airbenders simultaneously in 4 different temples spread over the entire world outside of Fire Nation territory? And none of them just flew away as the Fire Nation slowly ascended their mountains? Honestly, Zuzu.
>just fly away lmao
Worked for the israelites.
>heh zuzu
>dont you think it's kinda funny? That the Air-Nomads were trapped and burnt inside their own temples?
>kind of reminds me off an oven
Yeah but why kill Earth Kingdom people to just free one town.
What's the point in freeing a town if no one lives there anymore?
Well I suppose all of the Air Nomad children.
But outside of that, probably none since this is a kids show
Jet did nothing wrong. Anyone who shows mercy to occupying genociders deserves nothing less than death. Jet was the only character who gave the Fire Nation what they deserved.
We know, Jettard. Go have your revenge/mass murder fantasy somewhere else.
>literally tries to drown children
For the greater good.
Fire nation children. So completely deserved
Jet did literally nothing wrong
T. Seething airbender
this dude didn't understand shit from ATLAS, no one is a ''villain'' or a ''hero''. The characters are more complex than that.
Even Ozai is seen as evil but also as a part of his environment, that's the point of Sozin being cool until he isn't. The point of avatar is that no one is inherently bad an even if you come from that system you can overcome it even if it's hard like Zuko did.
>this dude didn't understand shit from ATLAS, no one is a ''villain'' or a ''hero''. The characters are more complex than that.
>Even Ozai is seen as evil but also as a part of his environment, that's the point of Sozin being cool until he isn't. The point of avatar is that no one is inherently bad an even if you come from that system you can overcome it even if it's hard like Zuko did.
>People's inability to grasp nuance, complicated morality and morally ambiguous characters, so much so in fact that they resort to watching Capeshit is frightening.
Legacy of the Fire Nation, along with the comics, implies that Ozai was always evil to the point that pre-redemption Iroh distanced himself from him.
Don't know what those guys were high on. Even without any supplementary material the dude was always just a cartoony evil bad guy with zero nuance. Basically just Azula without anything that made Azula interesting.
>Don't know what those guys were high on. Even without any supplementary material the dude was always just a cartoony evil bad guy with zero nuance. Basically just Azula without anything that made Azula interesting.
Because in order to keep him a mysterious badass, they kept him in the shadows for 2 seasons before barely spending any time on him before his Sozin's Comet battle and defeat even though he is the leader of the villain fraction, Zuko and Azula's father/abuser, Iroh's brother, and (technically) Mai and Ty Lee's boss.
Like some of the filler in S3 needed to be taken out so we could have developed the Fire Nation characters move imo.
Was kept as a mystery for far too long, it gave me the impression that he should have died when Zuko re-directed the lightning against him but did not due to the plot BS of 'Aang mastering the elements to defeat the firelord.'
When he got zapped by Aang on that final fight that shot was cool af
Also Zhao's boss if that counts
I guess he gave up on political commentary paying his bills.
He was a teenager. Next question.
He was sexy
He's a misguided idiot trying and failing to do the right thing.
>Vaush thread
he was a victim
Did Jet die somehow?
He was a moron, like Vaush and OP
Is that the video where the guy with a woman's profile name keeps randomly ranting about capitalism and how real communism has never been tried and would totally work?
Is this the video where a guy says that having an anarchist villain is dumb because "anarchism is the most nonsensical ideology"
I mean he wasn't wrong, but he was wrong to say that it was bad for a villain to be an anarchist
>guy
nah i'm just fricking with you, yeah it's that guy
Jet was kind of a cult leader.
>Cinemaphileumblr sucking off Vaush when even Cinemaphile and /leftypol/ find him cringe and creepy.
Why am I not surprised?
He's wrong.
I haven't watched the video and don't intend to, I just know he's wrong because he's Vaush.
Reminder that vaush is an actual pedo who's trying to unironically groom children into his discord by making cartoon content.
He's also unironically trying to get mentally ill people to shoot people through stochastic terrorism.
Feds know. Watch yourselves jannies, leaving this thread up might get you in some shit.
genocide is a-okay with horsewiener enjoyers
>Cinemaphile mods banned people and delete threads over people making fun of Ezra miller and Amber heard
>Let’s Vaush shill on Cinemaphile again
Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile might as well be the same board.
he was Stalin, guy using a cause to make himself feel powerful
It’s amazing how everyone here shows they didn’t see the fricking video. Vaush says that Jet was bad and that the main cast were doing the whole “revolutionaries take down oppressive force” without drowning innocent people. Is this board always full of morons who don’t watch or read the bullshit you all complain about?
Clickbait is never okay champ
>Is this board always full of morons who don’t watch or read the bullshit you all complain about?
With Vaush you can most of the time just assume the worst.
This is the same guy that said that people should 'submit themselves to the mob' if they're being chased after instead of defending themselves and spent like 2 hours in a 'debate' with Count Dankula trying to 'prove' he is a nazi just to admit that he isn't the second he left the debate.
He also said that the uncontacted tribes of North Sentinel Island and elsewhere should be made contact with, knowing that such an action would introduce so many diseases it would damn near kill the whole tribe just because he hates the idea of an ethnostate so much that he thinks that not even some random uncontacted tribe should have one, even if it protects them from plague
Having actually watched the video, Vaush ultimately agrees that Jet was a villain, but complains about the trope in media of having revolutionary movements fighting against actual oppressive systems being portrayed as bad because they go "too far", a trope people on Cinemaphile have also commonly complained about.
People's inability to grasp nuance, complicated morality and morally ambiguous characters, so much so in fact that they resort to watching Capeshit is frightening.
It's interesting how he's one of the very few characters to die on-screen.
He was a terrorist who wanted to mass murder civilians and children by drowning them to death. At least he kind of had a redemption before dying.