We're just going to have to face facts here.
IDW is not going to die, and IDW Sonic isn't going to end.
It's not "failing" and Sega approves everything, so there is no "distaste" for what IDW does with it.
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it might as well be dead since nothing fricking happens in it
And the last few years of Archie was any different?
>WHATABOUT
The last few years of Archie were the victim of the same shit that's keeping IDW from actually doing anything. That's why they had the whole soft reboot. moron.
>That's why they had the whole soft reboot.
The soft reboot was because of the lawsuit more than anything else.
How is the company doing?
They've signed a five-year deal with Paramount for TMNT. They're improving.
Isn't that them paying for a licence though?
Yes. So they have to make a profit or they are just sinking even faster.
Care to put money on it? I already did well enough shorting them before they delisted.
Yes. Celebrating them SPENDING money is kind of moronic. At most it means that paramount has enough confidence that theyre' willing to take IDW's money.
If they lost it, it would be game over. But they're still in there. Barely.
From a market standpoint, they aren't. They are so garbage that they have practically no ability to raise funds through the stock market. But a lot of the shit they have is really cheap, and some of their suppliers are really desperate. We'll see in say 6 to 9 months.
They've got about 5 million, 1 million of debt. Burning 1 million a quarter.
Their growth is -10 percent a year, and their profit marigin is about -12 percent a year. Their previous rev stream of TV is tailing off.
And worst of all, they have the full faith of Boco.
>I already did well enough shorting them before they delisted
Nice ! How long did you hold the short ?
Started paying attention with that stillerson thing, when they put him on ANOTHER gi joe book, and it pissed off hasbro. Shorted right before Hasbro pulled it's licence. Escalated afterwards when it was clear IDW had nothing in the tank to follow up on their TV successes.
Also something something Usagi Yojimbo.
It would have taken two seconds to throw up an issue cover. I wonder if IDW asked to be in.
Hasbro pulled GI Joe and TF because they liked Robert Kirkma's pitch, it was never a money thing.
What level of copium do you smoke? That is some really potent stuff.
Kirkman said so in interviews. Sometime around 2021 Hasbro started taking pitches from other publishers, really liked his, and decided to give hm the licenses.
>Sometime around 2021 Hasbro started taking pitches from other publishers
And why would they suddenly start doing that unless they didn't like how IDW was going?
If they really hated IDW they would have taken the Dungeons and Dragons and MLP licenses too. They just felt like a change of pace.
The IDW main MLP comic is ending.
It is just getting a series of mini arcs now.
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2023/11/my-little-pony-generation-5-19-released.html?m=1#more
Not surprising. Its never been as popular as Gen4 was.
No Pony Gen here onward will ever reach the highest of Gen4, that was a super flash in the pan, coming out at JUST the right time, when Social media was just gearing up, before 2016 shat the bed, when Tumblr was at its biggest.
Liking kirkmans pitch is RELATIVE to the shit they were doing with stilelrson. But more to the point, regardless of why IDW lost, they fricking lost.
Clearly the same kind that paid for my shorts.
You have a lot of hate for IDW, don't you Anon?
have they removed the blood sucking leach and the additional leaches that are draining the company dry yet?
Still waiting for the next financial report. Last one they lost a lot of money.
This right here. Numbers don’t lie anons and they were not looking good last time. If shit continues to go down then I don’t think we can beat around the bush anymore
They haven't looked good in like 10+ years at this point. IDW's been slowly bleeding cash for a very long time. They haven't gotten boughten out because there is literally nothing of real value in them, but they aren't hemorrhaging enough cash to just die overnight. Production on the last season of Wynonna Earp was delayed over a year because IDW didn't have the money to produce it.
I want a source for the Wyonna Earp thing
>I want a source for the Wyonna Earp thing
I hope one day, moronic dipshits like (you) will be able to use google.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/wynonna-earp-production-delayed-as-idw-seeks-funding-season-4-1189056/
Fricking embarrassing
Thank you so much!
Oh wow this is old.
That's the point. Their financial problems have been a thing for a long time now. They hoped adapting their comics into TV shows would be a windfall, or at least make the company look like an attractive IP farm for a bigger studio. Neither happened. Now they're just slowly withering away.
There’s been constant fighting on Cinemaphile on whether or not IDW is dying and that people have been saying it for years, but it’s true. It’s just a slow and painful death. The real question now is, will IDW Sonic be able to finish or get to some sort of conclusion before IDW inevitably goes down.
They fired the IDW Sonic editor so things are looking up.
what was wrong with this guy?
Has a minor in "Gender Studies" and advocated on tumblr for people to NOT get paid for their work.
Slashy get therapy
>things are looking up
depends on who replaces him
Nobody which is a step up. One of IDW's problems was bloat.
Fired him or did he leave after they couldn't pay him?
Fired by the looks of things.
>Couldn't pay
This guy literally had a tumblr post about how artists shouldn't get paid and just "do it for the love". Rest assured, he got paid too much for his job while artists and writers are still waiting to be paid.
source
It seems like a horrible idea to fire someone and then make them write a letter to readers that they are "leaving" but then again this is IDW.
>bluesky
???
It's twitter but for leftist millennials and furries
Has he been the editor this whole time?
Havent checked to see how true this post was.
https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/458888256/#458916271
>IDW Sonic's editorial team
>Joe Hughes
Editor: issues 1-9
>David Mariotte
Assistant Editor: the very start of development
Editor: issues 1-possibly even the first issue or so after the Fang mini (including nearly every piece of side book content out during that time except the Endless Summer special, in which he got a cheeky special thanks-type credit of "On Vacay" instead)
>Megan Brown
Assistant Editor: issues 9-25 (including the Team Sonic Racing one-shot, 2019 Annual, and the Tangle & Whisper mini)
>Riley Farmer
Assistant Editor: issues 25-47 (including the 2020 Annual, Bad Guys mini, 30th Anniversary Special, FCBD 2021, and Imposter Syndrome 1)
Editor: issues 48-62 (including the rest of Imposter Syndrome, Movie Pre-Quill, FCBD 2022, 2022 Annual, Tails' 30th Special, issue 1 5th Anniversary edition, 900th Adventure, and Endless Summer special)
>Nicolas Niño
Assitant Editor: Issue 50
David's successor will probably start getting credited alongside him on either Fang 2 or 3
As for the new editor-in-chief, seems to be this one.
He left to go work at Boom.
A change in editors isn't going to fix the fact that they can't really do anything with the game characters because Sega insists on everything being status quo with them thanks to Archie and Penders. The Sonic comic would probably be better if the game characters weren't even in it but then Sonic autists wouldn't read it.
The Mimic plot would be better if they either had him replace one of the Restoration characters or had a bunch of new recruits at once and made it an actual fricking mystery as to who he was with clues and red herrings and shit. I guess Flynn just assumes the people reading are moronic so need him to morph into cat Tails and then do obviously evil things in everyone's presence while smirking and his eyes going black and being named Duo and keeping his normal colors so all sense of mystery or tension or interest in the story is gone.
The writers are the problem. The mandates are fine.
It would be fine if it was an episodic series with minimal continuity. But it's a series with a dramatic and ongoing story and that doesn't work when all of the most prominent characters have to keep to their status quo. It limits what can be done with them since there's no way for them to change or grow so that means that most of the real attention has to go onto the OCs who aren't bound by that limitation but that just pisses off the people reading since most of them want to read about Sonic and friends, not OCs.
>But it's a series with a dramatic and ongoing story
No it is not LOL. No one sane looks at 85% of Sonic's stories that way.
I'm not saying the story is good because Flynn ran out of ideas even before the end of the Archie series but you can replace him and it's not going to get any better because the core problem is the Sega status quo mandates.
A different writer would have different priorities which is all the difference.
Most manga does well with Flat main characters, so what's their excuse?
>Most manga does well with Flat main characters
And guess how many of them top their popularity polls.
Could be good or bad. He's a proper feminist but he might just be swapped with another one
I just hope this BS with Mimic, Surge/Kit and Clutch doesn't go on for too long. Please don't make the heroes TOO stupid.
It’s going to last until issue 75, unfortunately
Provided IDW survives that long
Kinda suspicious that this plot involves ALL of the OC villains the comic has introduced.
Not all of them, the skunk bros aren't here. Honestly, I just hate Clutch's plan, like... it doesn't makes sense? He wants the Restoration taken out, because they clean up Eggman's messes... for free? At that point, just offer your services (for a profit) and show that your methods are superior, thus cutting out the Restoration's Eggman Clean Up division, since the group clearly does other things that don't effect his bottom line.
>At that point, just offer your services (for a profit) and show that your methods are superior
How do you know if his methods are superior?
If you're gonna criticize, at least do it right.
>And SHOW that your methods are superior
I want the story to show me because we, the audience. haven't see his work, but given that he's incredibly wealthy and has a whole body of workers that MIGHT out number those who work at the Restoration, I'm inclined to believe he's already in a better position than the Restoration.
>I made a bad assumption.
Okay.
>He wants the Restoration taken out
No, he wants to take them over.
I just don't want everything canonized.
>IDW is not going to die, and IDW Sonic isn't going to end.
Anon they gave us no information about issue 69 the comic is still dead.
For some reason they’re putting the main book on hiatus while the publish the Fang miniseries (probably because they don’t have much money to publish them simultaneously)
>Killed off Starline
>Surge and Kit were let down by rushed writing, and are now likely going to make them yet another pair of Sonic’s shitty friends
>Mimic is only still around because the writers don’t know how to advance Whisper’s character
>Clutch is diet Fang
>Rough and Tumble are just kinda there
Say what you will about Archie, but they had far more interesting original villains
The deadly six are unironically the best Non-Eggman villains in the book right now.
just do what the 90s Spider-Man cartoon did and have Whisper kick Mimic through a portal to a different dimension
and Kit were let down by rushed writing, and are now likely going to make them yet another pair of Sonic’s shitty friends
Yeah im kinda mad about that since surge and kit have potential to become great characters but IDW does nothing with them.
Their potential as rivals was always fricked since Sega refuses to let Sonic lose.
They can’t do anything with them. Not after Sega decided to tie IDW to the game canon. Can’t let things get too out of hand.
Will Sega at least let IDW do a time-skip so that we get the events of Sonic Frontiers and they can use Sage?
They should be doing that already, but it seems like we're going to be stuck with it being some Forces epilogue for a while.
>Surge and Kit
>Restoration's newest heroes
Oh frick you Evan.
Last few months it happened. Kit and Surge were running out of food so Clutch hired them to infiltrate the Resistance as new recruits. Sonic and Amy go along with it because even though they don't trust them at all it is essentially what they want them to do to be rehabilitated.
I have no idea why they put them on the Diamond Cutters besides that Lanolin has an unconscious desire to be betrayed. Kind of a contrivance to put them in contact with mimic, another illogical hire to the DCs.
The laziest solution is Lanolin is just that dumb. 2nd laziest is that Lanolin is a spy...In an organization currently made up of israeliteel, Belle, Grease Monkey, and Whisper.
and I wouldn't have it any other way
>Surge and Kit redeemed
What the frick is this shit
Evan Stanley.
they're not really afaik, pulling a double agent
Ian's "knowing smile" implications all but confirm they're gonna redeem for real.
Source for this?
His ass
It was pretty obvious they were getting redeemed the moment they had a sympathetic backstory.
Even if IDW dies tomorrow I can take solace in the fact that the Freedom Fighters are dead and buried and never coming back.
>IDW fans trying to praise the book without mentioning Archie characters
It was never about bringing back the "Freedom Fighters". It was just one or two obsessive Sallygays.
It's not about Archie, anon, it's about your tears. It's about your tears.
That's like saying the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.
Archie had its low points but is still far more interesting. The closest I could get to one of those highs was the metal virus arc and Scrapnik Island but other than that, I feel nothing
The Restoration is just the Freedom Fighters with more lesbians
Fine by me. I'd rather have them rest in peace than have some homosexual make cheap copies of them.
Belle is cute, but useless.
>More than enough kino Archie arcs to re-read endlessly
>Sonic Spinball getting ported to newer consoles til the heat death of the universe
I'll be fine, brah
>Shadow is not allowed to have a house
Sega is weird.
Is he eating shit?
Slop. It's a Spongebob redraw
It's Sonic gays spamming the image by themselves while screaming at little Timmy how his taste is shit
Aw, good for them.
I like buying the comic and supporting them.
Shut the frick up Boco.
Hmmm.
No.
That's because you're shit like them
How are these frickers still functioning if things are THIS bad?
Because stocks don't mean as much as you think.
What does then?
Sales. Income. A bunch of other stuff.
Sticks can fluctuate so much over the span of a fricking day theres no reason to look at them.
They have money but they're running out. They have to turn things around somehow while slashing their budget. They already laid off 39% of their workforce. TMNT is their big moneymaker and they renewed the license but that doesn't mean anything if they go out of business this year. Sonic also does well for them but they can only put out one issue a month along with a special every other month.
Well hopefully some kids enjoy it
I really want to believe children find entertainment value with these comics. I truly do
Children are the primary audience and kids still love Sonic. I've witnessed it.
Children love to read about wolf dykes crying for issues on end.
Only reasons to give a shit about Sonic are Rouge's breasts and from what I've seen she barely has any in these comics. Go read something else.
>Sonic has lots of friends!
>Amy
>that bunch of side frickers no one really cares about
The CFO said IDW only had enough cash to last until 2024.
So much for that, huh?
I am not sure if it is still untrue.
They renewed licenses, made big announcements, they’re obviously fine.
So your argument is that they hired a horribly incompetent CFO?
Renewing TMNT does not mean it is in trouble, it means the company knows it cannot survive without it
They are betting a lot on that Last Ronin game being a success.
I hate to have to tell you this Anon, but its 2024.
It will probably die by the end of the year. This is not a baseless assumption.
You've been saying that for years.
Not me specifically, but this is ignoring a lot of evidence.
We'll see, now won't we?
It hasn't been a year since they lost GI Joe and Transformers and the CEO said they had a year left.
Makes me wonder how much they had to offer upfront for 5 more years of TMNT.
They could downsize and go digital only. Monies and time wise tho what the frick are they doing.
>IDW Sonic might end with barely a fourth of the amount of issues Archie managed to
So say the actually manage to wrap things up in issue 75
What do you think will happen after that
Ian did say they were planning to transition the comic into taking place after Frontiers
>Ian did say they were planning to transition the comic into taking place after Frontier
What would that accomplish other than making Sage a character? Frontiers didn't really do much
Eggman becoming less evil I guess
He was never really all that evil until Ian decided he should have the same personality as his Archie counterpart. Before that he was just a basic Saturday morning cartoon villain.
Yep, everyone seems to forget that. Satam and Archie worked because the ties to the games are loose (even if they have had to include elements, like the how Archie had to make Station Square and underground city), so an Eggman that went off the deep end was welcomed. Game Eggman would never do Metal Virus, that's the plan of some one off villain that Sonic would beat the shit out of and be gone forever. Eggman can still be a threat, but releasing a Resident Evil virus is something that you can't just walk back. You know what happened to all those chumps at Umbrella in RE? Hunted down and brought to justice, hiding away and selling what they could steal, or dead. And since IDW Eggman IS supposed to be Game Eggman, well... frick.
>Game Eggman would never do Metal Virus, that's the plan of some one off villain that Sonic would beat the shit out of and be gone forever. Eggman can still be a threat, but releasing a Resident Evil virus is something that you can't just walk back.
You guys really love exaggerating MV when it resulted in the same conclusion as Unleashed where he split the planet and released nightmare monsters and Cthulhu.
he needed the energy to power Eggmanland, how would a zombie virus help with his theme park?
>how would a zombie virus help with his theme park?
Obedient robot minions to build anything he wants, including Sonic and pals.
It's a narrative trick. Because the worst parts always happen once he loses control, it makes him look like he wouldn't do that stuff. We know otherwise, but it doesn't feel like it. Combine with the occasional team-up and his low screen time relative to the main cast, and he's got a great PR smokescreen going for him.
The comic put him on-panel for too long. Blame Starline. By analyzing him, he lost that energy. IDW has this problem a lot, from what I gather.
>Because the worst parts always happen once he loses control
That stuff happens literally at the beginning of the game. He never had control of Dark Gaia, didn't even do anything to do so. Just assumed it would listen to him in the end for some reason. He just harvested the energy and fricked off to Eggmanland while everyone else dealt with the consequences.
In that case, he was never in control of Dark Gaia and thus does not appear to be responsible for the effects of its emergence. Yes, even though his cannon opened it up. Yes, even though he intended that part.
Don't ask me why moral outrage requires so much hand-holding. If they never demonstrate an antisocial personality on-screen, then they are assumed to be at worst an official or agent representing an enemy faction and not a threat to society as a whole.
I don't agree, but that's how it plays out.
> they metalized any organic thing they touched, which would have killed the world in a matter of days (and we saw this thanks to Silver)
>the comic itself treated it like it was an RE biohazard (when in Unleashed people were worried, but no one was shown to be in deep panic)
>there was no cure
Kind of hard not too when the comic does it already
He's a mad scientist, not Albert Wesker
Well, Albert was a scientist as well... hmm.. he wasn't AS mad of a scientist as Wesker.
>they metalized any organic thing they touched, which would have killed the world in a matter of days (and we saw this thanks to Silver)
The case with Silver was the end result after hundreds of years after the fact, it wasn't a matter of days. Eggman would be dead and buried way before that happened. Unleashed would have actually ended in the world being destroyed earlier thanks to Dark Gaia being unleashed. It's no different from every other bad end Silver comes back to stop.
>the comic itself treated it like it was an RE biohazard (when in Unleashed people were worried, but no one was shown to be in deep panic)
Which I chalk up to inconsistent writing considering the way people reacted all the other times the world was put in peril before.
>there was no cure
There was, Tails was making it until it got destroyed, then they moved on to the next solution. It was always treated as something they could fix.
Nobody was actually hurt by splitting the Earth open though. Hell, it was literally a plot point how Dark Gaia's energy was doing more by making everyone depressed. Eggman himself did frick all, he was the butt of the joke immediately after the intro of Unleashed.
The Metal Virus meanwhile had people writhing in pain, stewing in misery, turning on each other in fear. The only reason nobody flat out died was because of mandates, but things were far more severe than the usual Eggman plot. He's grossly OOC in IDW, and making him so untouchable only exasperates the issue.
>Nobody was actually hurt by splitting the Earth open though
Nobody was hurt in MV either. It's never said that it was painful. Nobody died or suffered serious injury, or long term trauma after the fact. Only damage was structural and the Restoration took care of that immediately after. Way better than in Forces, which people always want to conveniently ignore.
>Nobody was hurt in MV either. It's never said that it was painful.
Why post such easily disproven lies? Like, did you even read the arc?
>Nobody died or suffered serious injury, or long term trauma after the fact.
I literally just said the only reason for that is because of mandates, moron. But Ian and co sure as hell would've made Eggman get away with that given the chance. Hell, Eggman already killed Starline, as if he couldn't be more OOC.
>Why post such easily disproven lies? Like, did you even read the arc?
Yeah, I did and nobody was hurt. Is that earpull suppose to be your damning evidence? The cast hurts themselves more by hitting badniks on the regular.
>I literally just said the only reason for that is because of mandates
As if that matters. We're talking about things that happened, not you trying to force a meta-narrative to make your argument work.
>Hell, Eggman already killed Starline
He did not. Starline died being squashed by rubble, not by Eggman doing anything to him.
Tails outright states that given enough time, the MV would have caused cellular apoptosis (cell death) and all of its victims would have collapsed into lifeless sludge sooner rather than later. Eggman intended to abandon the planet to flat-out die before things got that bad and just repeat it on some other unsuspecting world.
It very much was a potentially lethal crisis.
Wait a minute… what if IDW Eggman is a version of Robo-Robotnik that never managed to kill Sonic and his friends and couldn’t move on to the next reality to fight Sonic Prime?
Well… that’s just a theory, A GA-
You seemed to have left out the part where Tails asks Eggman how long they have before that happens and he says 200 years. Eggman ditching was only after he had lost control of the zombots.
And that’s somehow any better??? Total enslavement of ALL LIFE globally and then eventual extinction of all life.
>And that’s somehow any better???
It's not instant death, which was my point. That was a bad end scenario which we know wouldn't happen just like every other end of the world scenario didn't stick.
I'd rather instantly die than the other
You wouldn't go through either.
>It's not instant death, which was my point.
They're effectively already dead once fully infected dude, they're literal zombies. That's like saying being a normal zombie isn't that bad because the body wont fully decompose for who knows how long.
>They're effectively already dead
Except not. "Zombots" is just a name Sonic came up with, they're not actually reanimated dead people. They didn't bring people back to life at the end. That's like saying we're effectively already dead because we'll be dust in 200 years.
>eggman found a way to have people live for 200 years
>The only reason nobody flat out died was because of mandates
We did see someone die. If they stay infected with the Metal Virus for too long their bodies can't handle it and they melt which is a PG version of death. Even though the virus was stopped anyone who melted is absolutely dead. Their bodies either fully became the virus Super Sonic threw away OR they return to their bodies familiar form but with the virus removed so.....a bunch of melted blood and organs. The writers are counting on you not thinking about this stuff.
But Eggman is indeed a vile sack of evil global threat shit who does have blood on his hands. And the sad thing is that with all the red tape around the Sonic Team characters such as Eggman we will never see him punished like he deserves. It's a licensed comic and since IDW doesn't own Sonic I don't think Sega will smile at the pitch of Eggman finally getting the death penalty or a permanent lobotomy and I mean one he can't Bad Writing come back from. Truly making Eggman braindead as a punishment with no retcons or anything to undo it. And this is why the comic is so lousy. We know the villains will never pay for their crimes.
This writing extends to the original characters. Even Starline Flynn said if another writer wants to use him he can return from his death.
IDW will die. There is no way they survive this decade. Just because they have the license to Sonic and TMNT doesn't mean anything especially if it doesn't seem like these are generating much buzz. IDW Sonic is about the same as Sonic Prime in NOT generating buzz. The only major Sonic media generating buzz is the movie Sonic 3 due to the introduction of Shadow a fan favorite character. IDW Sonic will continue to fizzle out until IDW simply can't afford to continue.
I think they have ONE shot. And that's getting bought out by paramount.
>Sonic 3 due to the introduction of Shadow a fan favorite character
Paramount is smart. They got to him as fast as possible. Meanwhile Sega barely uses the guy and keeps him difficult for others to write.
Is it really SEGA or just the hacks don't know how to use Shadow? IDW just makes him a jobber and puts him offscreen as much as they can.
Sonic Prime had him being competent and get the spotlight, but also he was kind of invisible to the rest of the cast. No one ever actually talked to him or even asked why the frick there was basically another sonic.
And I'm willing to be bet we won't see either of that in the Sonic 3 movie.
They keep wanting him to lose fights he should not.
>And I'm willing to be bet we won't see either of that in the Sonic 3 movie.
Thankfully, Paramount has been pretty based with these movies so far.
On a side note, did you guys catch that Paramount officially calls Sonic’s world in the movies Mobius?
>And I'm willing to be bet we won't see either of that in the Sonic 3 movie.
Instead we'll see more stupid humans and him being infantilized like the rest. Why the frick would you use the movies as standards for anything?
>IDW just makes him a jobber and puts him offscreen as much as they can.
>Sonic Prime had him being competent and get the spotlight, but also he was kind of invisible to the rest of the cast. No one ever actually talked to him or even asked why the frick there was basically another sonic.
It's the mandates. Same reason why he was super serious in Sonic Boom. All the writers have said that Shadow is hard to write. Ian elects to write him as less as possible but does so every once in a while because he's popular. Evan wanted a Team Dark story but had to replace him with Amy. And writing him in Sonic Prime was said to be challenging. Paramount is going to do whatever they want because they got the money and contract to make Sega shut up.
He was great in Prime though.
And none of the mandates have demanded that he lose fights.
All I'm saying is that the writers have specifically said that writing him is a challenge. The only reason people even bother dealing with Sega's autism over Shadow is because how insanely popular he is. So why is Sega themselves the ones who do nothing with him?
Because hes a laughable remnant from a forgotten era.
It's even more annyoying when you realise they have those sonic channel stories that have shadow well written but only for the jp audience. They could easily translate them for the rest of the world. But frick gaijins i guess.
>But frick gaijins i guess.
The Sega of Japan way of life.
>sega catering only to the smallest portion of their fanbase because japan mostly doesn't care for sonic and it's mostly the west that does
This is why they don't make consoles anymore.
Sega is and always has been a moronic company and any success it's ever had has been in spite of, not because of the, the self-sabotaging morons who run it. For frick's sake this is a company where, at its peak, the American and Japanese branches were trying to frick each other over.
>All I'm saying is that the writers have specifically said that writing him is a challenge.
That's because most of them are writing fanfic Shadow.
As for why they don't use him in every game? Because Shadow works better in certain stories , would Shadow actually do anything for Frontiers' story and not just be a plot coupon?
>We did see someone die.
We did not, even you said so. All we see is a deserted field in Silver's future. Like we saw a deserted hellscape in 06 or we were told that 80% of the Resistance was vaguely wiped out.
>IDW Sonic is about the same as Sonic Prime in NOT generating buzz.
SEGA recently put out a video celebrating all the sonic shit coming out this year. Prime had a spot in it. The comics didn't.
That's sad lmao.
And very telling
Of what?
The fact that SEGA don't give a shit about IDW Sonic, even when Flynn, the guy writing the comics is writing the games. Why would Prime get a spotlight and not IDW? The lego toys, and every other tie in got a mention and they're just licensees too, so why not IDW?
Perhaps Sega also knows that things are not looking good for IDW right now
Perhaps
Prime is meant to be for a larger audience and can be an introduction. IDW is for hardcore fans and assumes you know it all. Because it's a fricking comic thats how they all are. Batman's comics don't get plugged. Why not fricking take 2 seconds and think about the situation instead of just deciding SEGA shares your opinion on the comic and is going to act your aggression by being mean to it.
>Game Eggman would never do Metal Virus
Yeah he would.
>Game Eggman would never do Metal Virus
It's basically the same plan he had in Colors, just messier. Mind control the populace.
>basic b***h mind control ray is the same as a literal Resident Evil biohazard
Why are Sonic fans so consistently moronic, oh my god. IDW especially seems to breed an extra potent strain of stupidity.
Even ignoring that asinine comparison, the mind control in Colors was so comically impractical that it was never going to work at any reasonable scale. Like, it took a shitload of energy just to control Tails for a few seconds. Even several planets worth of energy was not going to do much for very long. It's a complete afterthought of a scheme that's wholly secondary to the Planetary Amusement Park.
Pretty much, at best I can see Eggman using it to make people pay him MORE for all the shit at the park.
>taking place after Frontiers
What would that even do for the series? Scatter the heroes and give them vague arcs? They won't be able to bring back Sage until she's brought back in a game because Sega will not allow the comics to do something first.
>Ian did say they were planning to transition the comic into taking place after Frontiers
No he didn't.
It's still gonna die, nobody genuinely likes IDW Sonic.
Nah, it's you who doesn't like it. IDW Sonic has a lot of fans.
>IDW Sonic has a lot of fans.
Anon, no one is buying the comics and most of the people you see on Twitter are just there to promote their own shit they are not promoting the comic.
It sells more than Archie.
Does it really?
Sonic and TMNT are IDW's best selling stuff. Not sure why they're skimping on Sonic issues now or why there's always delays for issues. Maybe sales have been lagging.
There's always delays because they suck at scheduling.
Well it's not good for business and they kind of need to be on top of that.
Why Fartchie fanboys want scorched earth for the Sonic comic subdivision? They think they will get Sally back if they b***h hard enough?
IDW should just do self contained stories like Scrapnik or the Winter Jam special.
Issue 68 was one of the best issues in a while because it was just a simple story with Sonic and Tails and not trying to push this military drama.
>the comic should stop having a plot!
Scrapnik was satisfying because it was the only time when Sonic forgiving villains didn’t come back to bite him in the ass. It wasn’t a self-contained story by any means, it was building off the themes of previous stories.
It can have plots just not ongoing ones like the games don't have ongoing plots.
Isn’t that what they are doing now? The comic has been extremely aimless since Starline died.
No the stories are still trying to build up to something.
There’s barely an overarching plot anymore.
There’s Clutch trying to vaguely infiltrate the resistance but it’s much less thought through than Starline building the tricores or stealing data from Tails and Belle.
Reminder this plot is only happening because the cancelled Tangle and Whisper 2 was apparently really really bad
What?
https://www.tumblr.com/spiritsonic/711021305742475264/im-curious-about-a-seemingly-cut-plotline
Tangle already came off that way to be honest. Naming their new team off her dead friends and going “Gee, I thought you’d like it! Sigh, you can change the name if you really want to, but it will make Tangle sad.” came off as emotional blackmail.
I wish that was true. Unfortunately, the fanfic in your head is probably better than what we're going to get instead.
The fanfic in my head is a bunch of adventures with Sonic, Tails, and Amy and they occasionally rival the Chaotix to save the day.
When will Surge get to rape somebody?
She's gonna rape kit and force him to impregnate her.
Huh????? Didn't all this stuff already happen??? Is this like a release for all of the latest issues???? I'm pretty sure the warp topaz thing already happened.
Its a solicit for a TPB.
It's a Compendium/volume of all the latest issues. But the mention of the Warp Topaz returning isn't a thing that happened. Did they accidentally spoil a future issue or something?
I’m currently conceptualizing a story where Tangle gets possessed by a psychosexual female hypnotist
And I guarantee you it does her character better than the last year of IDW
If your story involves Tangle doing literally anything but comfort a one-note sadsack wolf, it will easily be better than IDW.
What if I told you the climax features the hypnotist lady trying to brainwash her while in Tangle’s body, while both of them are in the nude
l-lewd
Not only that, but they never have her do anything else, either. Do they explore what her old team did? Do any of their old jobs come back to haunt her? Do we ever see her and Tangle do anything together that might give them some chemistry or make them seem like a cute couple?
No. She shows up, and somebody says something or does something or makes a nasal sound that vaguely reminds her of the old Diamond Cutters, and she cries. That's all. If she's really lucky, she might job to somebody.
AntoineXBunnie >>>>>>>>>>> WhisperXTangle
Give it time. They got a ton of plot points hanging, every OC has their drama. And most of the page limit isn't about character drama. So it unravels at a very slow pace.
I dunno, they've had 60 issues and several minis, and it still feels like they're just spinning their wheels. All that's really happened is that Starline croaked and now Surge and Kit are loose.
Are you implying that Surge and Kit will never get development? Because if you are implying it's just slow that's what I said and it's slow for the reasons I said.
I feel bad for Whisper, she's been given an end goal that can never happen.
>avenge her crew by killing Eggman
>accept she can't because Eggman is a game character
>can kill Mimic
>but doing so would remove one of the villains from the comic
Sooo it's self-insert?
Not gonna lie, I made an OC in my head that somehow got mutated by the MV, and the Chaos Emeralds didn't cure them completely, so now they're this half flesh/hale malleable metal hybrid that's lost their sense of smell and taste.
Nanoslime OC? My man.
Do they have a name?
No name, but they'd be struggling, loving the new powers they got at first, but once people saw it was similar to the MV, they'd be shunned out of fear. Then they try to eat their favorite food...
More of a tragic character than a revenge fueled one.
Fleetway already had a shapeshifting female villain who occasionally turned into suffocating goop.
idk
This comic has always been shit from the word go. Zombies in sonic? Give me a fricking break
So I just started reading this and got to the MV part. It's not bad so far. Does it get worse or something? Should I drop it?
It nosedives after Metal Virus except for Impostor Syndrome, Scrapnik, and issue 50 then nosedives like immediately after 50.
How do you feel about the Zeti?
Don't care for them. Never played Lost World but I think they look like shit and dont look like sonic characters.
Wait till you get to the camping arc
SpongeBob did those stories well what happened?
>what happened
Nothing. Half a year of nothing
>Does it get worse or something?
It keeps going and going and going.
The main issue of the MV is that it takes WAY too long to resolve. Just when you think it's wrapping up it throws a fricking wrench into the works just to pad out a few more issues. It's extremely bloated for such a radical shift in tone, and it doesn't really end in a satisfying way.
And then everything goes back to normal again. Eggman gets away scott free and Sonic and co just keep treating him like a fenemy, not someone who should be in jail or killed honestly.
How am I supposed to take this seriously, Ian?
Frenemy*
Its Sonic. Its not meant to be serious.
Then why is Ian trying so hard to make it serious without any real consequences?
You are missing the point. Ian needs to pick a lane. Even 10 year old me would’ve been scratching my head at this comic
>Then why is Ian trying so hard to make it serious
because he wants Archie's setting back.
Yes, that is obvious. But does it work for the whole comic? Not really. This tug of war between Ian and Sega is disap
See, I'm perfectly fine with that. I like Sonic with a less serious tone. The issue is that the Ian's writing fricks up so drastically that it makes that statement contradictory. Why bother with such a serious, somber storyline that lasts for nearly half of IDW's entire run if Sonic was never meant to be taken seriously?
I know Ian pulled that same excuse himself, and it feels like a copout on his end. His words and his writing are totally different beasts.
>The issue is that the Ian's writing
Does that really matter now? Ian's off the book and won't be on it again for the forseeable future, and perhaps not ever again.
If you want to talk current problems than Evan's the one you need to be discussing.
Why do you keep saying this when theres no proof he's gone?
You're not keeping up with the Bumblekast reports are you.
I'm not what are they?
Ian has been constantly replying with questions with "I'm not writing the comic anymore, that's Evan's job now."
Example?
>Example?
Are you unable to use youtube?
Are you unable to search the /vg/ archives? some tard keeps posting the entire bumbleshit transcripts in /sthg/.
And you're sure he isn't just working on the Fang mini and will be back?
He probably has not been given anything to write because the fang mini is making up a quarter of the year.
I highly doubt he would be writing issues now that are set to release in like October.
I already told you last time dumbass, the mini was finished months ago. He's not writing something that's already done.
>Ian's off the book and won't be on it again for the forseeable future
Yeah. Now he's just fricking up the games with that exact same issue.
>Now he's just fricking up the games
Worst fricking timeline
>stc managed to put eggman in jail
>archie managed to send eggman to the shadow realm
>even sonic x had him in prison
Idw is a joke lol
The problem is the comic is very much at odds with its tone. Notice how Eggman reverts to Archie-levels of sinister ONLY when dealing with the comic's OCs. When he's actually dealing with Sonic he reverts to the campier less-sinister depiction we've gotten used to seeing in the games.
I'm fairly confident in my assumption Ian and the rest of the Archie fanatics IDW employs are intentionally using the OCs as a workaround to call back to the Archie style of writing, at the expense of a cohesive story that actually involves the characters Sega would want people to be front and center.
Yeah as much as I do like their efforts, it just sort of falls flat in the end. Dangling a carrot and asking me to take the whole thing seriously right before they yank the carrot away as you bite down at it is silly.
Yep. You know how Antione got blasted in the face with a bomb? Yeah, that's never gonna happen here, but it feels like the bomb is right there, just sitting there waiting to blow.
Yeah this, it's genuinely baffling.
IDW Eggman
>"A large woodland creature dares to enter my presence?"
>"Well I'll just smack them around with my bare hands and enjoy every moment of it!"
Game Eggman:
>"I-is that CHARMY BEE?!"
>"IIIEEEEE SAVE ME SONIC-SAMA!"
To be fair, I don't think anyone in this thread would want to frick with bees. Especially those africanized ones that are always seething with hatred.
You know what, fair enough. Though platypus' are venemous so it's not like you'd want to frick with them either.
You ever feel like Starline was all-over the place as a character design-wise?
-Super scientist
-Hypnosis powers
-Paralyzing toxin in his heelspurs
-Tricore gives him the ability of Sonic Tails and Knuckles
-Gay as Springtime and June combined into one
And yet nothing really brings any of this together in a cohesive way.
Any less random than Tails? An inventor and mechanic who can fly using two tails, those don't have much to do with each other either.
He was a combination of various characters but he was at least interesting.
>he was at least interesting.
Was he though?
I don't know. I thought he had potential.
Potential to be what?
I'm serious, Starline's entire destiny was predictable the moment he decided to strike out on his own and it played out exactly how everybody expected it to, the ony caveat being nobody expected it to go by so quickly and unmemorably that it felt even more pointless than imagined.
He was too much Snively and not enough Finitevus. IDW's problem is that literally every villain is a pathetic loser.
>Starline is a gay poser
>Surge jobs five times per issue
>Mimic has no combat powers
>Clutch has no powers at all
>Rough and Tumble are morons
The only villains with any real menace are Eggman, Zavok, and occasionally KIT of all people.
They need to give their villains a power-boost, like have Surge power up with the Master Emerald the way Scourge did, or have Mimic learn to replicate some of his targets' abilities.
Mimic has nearly perfect camouflage and is an expert mercenary. His biggest problem is shitty writers who don’t know how to use him. Instead of making Mimic smart and crafty they made all the heroes morons. Like what’s even the point of Mimic disguising himself if Surge and Kit are just let in through the front door anyway?
>Potential to be what?
Eggman Nega's grandma
His own bad guy. Start him as an Eggman clone and when he realizes that was all bullshit, he finds his own path. Maybe make him a G-Man type where he goes around manipulating things instead of being the full on despot.
Can't have good creative ideas in IDW anon.
Yes you can they just can't be anything that would affect the games.
God that's moronic, previous sonic comics never had this issue.
Because that was before Sega activated their anti-Penders shield.
Yes, they were starting to strike up mandates before the lawsuit but things went into overdrive afterwards. Why do you think Reboot Archie had so many changes besides less characters? Said changes were solidified for the games as well.
I bet if sega ever made a new sonic manga those mandates would be ignored because it's ok when the japanese do it.
>Sonic.... BUT IN HIGHSCHOOL?
>FOLLOW THE ADVENTURES OF NICKY THE HEDGEHOG, AS HE DEALS WITH GIRLS, BULLIES, AND.... mystery meat?
>BUT, WHEN THE EVIL DOCTOR EGGMAN ATTACKS THE CITY, NICKY COMBS BACK HIS HAIR, DITCHES THE GLASSES AND BECOMES THE NUMBER ONE HERO...
>SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!
>good creative ideas
>G-Man type where he goes around manipulating things instead of being the full on despot.
lel
> Maybe make him a G-Man type where he goes around manipulating things instead of being the full on despot.
Okay, so basically later Mammoth Mogul but cooler
The problem is that Starline was a plot device first, and a character second. He existed only to facilitate certain arcs, and little more. The fact that he literally starts out with all seven chaos emeralds in his first appearance made him feel like a bad fanfic OC.
Honestly, it's less the poison and more that small insects are really hard to hit.
Have you tried fighting a bee? It's really hard.
Not when you got a flamethrower
>Using Heroes as an example of character writing in Sonic.
Anon Heroes is the worst fricking game in the series. Eggman goads them with a note saying 'hee hee come catch me' and turns out to be Metal Sonic who randomly transforms into a dragon. Shit's moronic. Amy gets a 6 year old as a friend and a moronic cat, Shadow doesn't know if he's a robot or not and Rouge's outfit is stupid. The main theme song for the game, after Open your Heart and Live and Learn is just 'Sonic Heroes' repeated constantly. It's not a well done, narratively strong game.
>Anon Heroes is the worst fricking game in the series
Bold words for a series that STILL can't decide what the frick the Phantom Ruby does.
Even still, I'm not here to pretend that Heroes is some masterpiece or anything, it's just an example. Eggman being a cowardly b***h that crumbles to anyone that stands up to him was a constant of his character for most Sonic games. He shouldn't be throwing hands at anyone, the whole point is that he's nothing without his toys.
Those two panels go hard.
>Should I drop it?
Gimme your lunch money first.
They own the Yakuza. No one is crazy enough to mess with Sega.
Horse show was clearly losing popularity anyway. It was always going to be a flash in the pan thing.
Archie and it's consequences have been a disaster for IDW. Just fire everyone already and get a entire new team who haven't worked on anything sonic at this point.
I thought Ian and Evan keep alternating as head writer. Maybe its just Evan's turn now.
Your info's out of date. Evan is THE head writer now.
She's been head writer since 33
So how long until IDW dies (for real) this time?
Any day now Anon. Really. For real this time. Honest.
Realistically they will probably last til the end of the decade at least.
Numbers don’t lie and they’ve been doing nothing but losing money over the years. Paying for new licenses also makes them bleed money faster
Unironically the case given they just cancelled their ongoing p*ny comic.
That hasn't been a huge seller for them in years.
You mean during all those years where they've been losing money?
Depends on how much money they are willing to lose before throwing in the towel. They said a year and that could be any time in 2024.
The real question is how long until that subhuman tripgay kills himself
Never. Boco has been here for over a decade.
They have cash for maybe the end of the year. EXCEPTION is if they get bought out by paramount or do something dramatic.
Are you willing to put your investment portfolio where your shitposting fingers are?
Only idiots play the stock market.
GOTF confirmed dead on Evans livestream
Oh no, how will we ever live without her precious gay shipping fantasy fic?
Good.
Aw mannnn
And nothing of value was lost!
So, got any GOOD fancomics I read?
While I did like Ghosts of the Future, I highly recommend Sonic Retold by Glitcher and then Murder of Me by Gigi D
>Sonic Retold by Glitcher
Not interested in anything archie related, personal preference that's all.
>Murder of Me by Gigi D
Already read, annoyed she turned it into a video series thing.
> Not interested in anything archie related, personal preference that's all.
Aight, valid.
> Already read, annoyed she turned it into a video series thing.
Have to disagree, it was icing on the cake for me.
>Have to disagree, it was icing on the cake for me.
That's fine, I prefer reading it, feels like she takes longer to animate it in comparison to just drawing comic pages.
>Murder of Me by Gigi D
I thought that was just a shorthand for The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, guessing it's not.
If it's a fancomic then what is it about?
Silver is a schizo
Shadow is a schizo
Sonic is a schizo and murders his mom
Also vore
Ignore the other anon.
Has great art. It involves an ancient God that awakens and begins to tear Mobius apart. It turns out that Sonic, Silver, and Shadow are the only ones who might have a chance to stop it, and shit goes down.
And shit goes down HARD. Probably my favorite Sonic fan comic so far.
It's overrated as frick along with GOTF
Frick you, I liked it. Infinitely better and more original than what IDW is pumping out.
Woah, never said you can't like it anon, im just saying it's held to a realy high standard when its like a 7/10
Sorry, nothing personal, just a rough evening after work and I’m pumped up atm
Just look at sexy images of your favourite sonic character, that always calms me down.
>Infinitely better and more original than what IDW is pumping out.
What isn't?
Better to be bad than boring.
Not a high bar lmaoooooo, look at how anons suck barnes wiener after scrapshit only because it does the bare fricking minimum
There’s a bunch of fan comics I’ve peaked at and couldn’t get interested. This however, had me at the edge of my seat
I'm glad you enjoyed it anon, I enjoyed it too until sonic 'cries' (it was mecha but yeah whatever) I felt like that was cheap and moronic as frick.
Someone had a massive picture of fancomic recs but I can't find it.
Brotherhood's Twist just finished. It's probably the only good thing with the Deadly Six and if you like Sonic and Tails being brothers then you'll love it.
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-01-27-brotherhoods-twist/
>deadly shits
Never Ever
>bu-
Never. Ever.
Would you rather read something that's about the Zeti getting hunted to being an endangered by Scratch and Grounder instead
I'd rather not read anything involving those shit ugly ass rejects.
Would you read an Australian take on Sonic the hedgehog instead
Hmmm..go on
Team Dark Supernova Odyssey is still updating and has Team Dark and Eggman as main characters as they save the universe. Great art and a treat for anyone that's a fan of these characters. Also Metal Sonic got an upgrade and they travel by using the Ark's Eclipse Cannon as a rocket.
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-04-26-team-dark-supernova-odyssey/
Already read, nice 10/10 art ugly hope design fricking tumblrites
Blue Prisoner and Blue Murderer is the edgiest and goriest comic. It's Sonic Forces Nightmare Edition. Sonic is tortured and Tails goes insane and starts killing people.
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-07-23-blue-prisoner-blue-murderer/
Finally a 10/10 perfect comic for the kiddies.
unironically
Ah, I remember when I dumped some of this one the Ride before the Conductor did the full thing. Good times.
Sonic Phantom Forces AU is another Sonic Forces comic but this time Sonic is corrupted and loses his memory. Amazing art but it's barely updating these days. Tails also goes a little crazy.
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-01-30-sonic-phantom-forces/
I expected more schizo sonic comics, especially with forces. I am disappointed.
Stressed Out is good. Sonic gets hit with super depression and the Fleetway version of Super Sonic gains control of his body by attacking his mind and forcing him to hallucinate. Downside are that the pages are photographed and it stopped updating but there's a lot to the story.
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-05-11-stressed-out/
Tablets are cheap as frick and gimp is free, what is this artist doing kek.
>Tablets are cheap af
Transitioning from traditional to digital is not always seen as a good thing. You have the chance of losing your style.
I guess, but that artist could at least get a better scanner
True. But (or at least decent ones) scanners usually ain’t cheap, I would know. I used to sell them.
F
It sucks. Great traditional art and it's being posted in such a state. It's basically a ghetto storytime.
Tails Forces. Another Sonic Forces comic but this time it's an amazing shitpost with great art.
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-05-07-tails-forces/
Love the artist, peak Tails content
Sonic Frenzy is also good. For those that want their Sonic as close to the game version as possible. There's seven issues and it's pretty fun and crazy. The first issue is slow but it really picks up in the second one and keeps getting better from there.
https://www.deviantart.com/killerboss2
>in character sonic
Impossible i need to see this for myself
Hey it's the gigachad yume self insert comic
No neocities link?
https://the-ride.neocities.org/comics/2022-06-03-sonic-frenzy/
It doesn't have all the issues. There's also the tbh threads.
Issue 4
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/135583958
Issue 5
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/136737726
Issue 6
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/138477339
Issue 7
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139671376/#139674002
Thanks!
>69 posters
Nice
I have a challenge for you all.
Still waiting for the challenge
What’s the challenge?
Western writers and their obsession with foxes is a true detriment to Tail's growth as a character.
And I hated them.
Which of the IDW artists can draw humans well?
I'm sure adam and some of the others can do the midunleashed looking ones. But comic focuses on the furries atm so I wouldnt worry about that sides Eggman.
I can't wait for the conductor to go back to fancomics again
I don't give a frick about the archie ride
Then leave
? I already dont go into the archie ride threads and this thread is about IDW.
Give it a small chance anon
There's not enough porn of Starline and Eggman
We need porn of Eggman genderbending Starline and then knocking her(him) up
Nah, just give me standard Mpreg or bust.
Add an r after the u and maybe we can see what happens when Starline pissed off Eggman too many times. Pretty sure that Eggman’s tech + furry logic can make decent cuminflation possible
>cuminflation
>hahahayes.jpg
Now we're talking!
Now make him lay actual eggs
Just bring back the black arms already
Does anyone honestly like this guy? he feels like he's just there really
I feel like he would be a sick character in Archie. I mean, it probably wouldn’t have been allowed there but you guys realize that this guy can, by logic, bend blood too?
I like him
>should we bring back any of sonic other villains
>nah just make more shitty ocs and add them to the pile
What other villians are there in modern that arent the d6?
>infinite
>mephiles
>eggman Black
>black arms kinda
infinite is dead, mephiles is super dead, eggman nega is probably alive but is shit, black arms are dead
Yeah but they can be brought back, just like sega brings them back for those sonic channel stories.
Ian made Archie Eggman and IDW Eggman (sorta) evil af. If Nega ever comes back, he’d have to to like.. idk, be like Starved Eggman and start mass killing and eating Mobians or some shit
Eggman Nega's thing is being a troll. They'll have to make him all about that if they bring him back.
Just make sonic go full schizo, he's already one in IDW anyway.
>Sonic goes for a Super Form
>His schizophrenia is so intense he hallucinates all his enemies after hearing Shadow mention something about the 4th Chaos Emerald or whatever the frick
>They appear/are revived instead
>They frick off immediately
>No Super Sonic, frick you
IDWbros, do you think this has potential or should I have included more crying Whisper
Gonna need more crying lesbians, Lanolin slapping Silver and more of Surge and Kit jobbing.
Schizonic has been done. But Schizonic vs all his Dead Enemies is a neat take.
I'd use Whisper as someone he can confide in when the voices get too real, because he's afraid of letting Tails down or scaring Amy; possibly imply one of the Diamond Dogs has a similar issue
I wish for Sonic to cuck him as he ryona's on Surge and feminizes her.
That's as much as I can possibly care.
>he ryona's on Surge and feminizes her.
based
Even Sega forgot he existed and put Surge in their mobile game as a solo act.
something about this and surge's designs never gelled with me
I like a lot of the other idw designs so idk what's going on
I like him. Mostly for porn potential and bad ends, but still.
Why aren't any of you making your own sonic fan comic?
A lot of people are.
Name 5
And they never finish
I’m thinking about it. My art isn’t that good yet though, and I still have much to learn.
>My art isn’t that good
START DRAWING RIGHT NOW
I don't have anything to contribute. If I learned the style it would be to draw porn.
I am though.
Anyone else excited for the 3rd movie?
I just want to see how they adapt SA2. If they're going to keep going with the unfunny humans I don't think I'll give a shit about the movies past that one.
SA1 and SA2 changed Sonic's workd from being simple with just Eggman and furries to it now bexomibg a full blown anime with New York and San Fransisco existing. It all started here of the great convoluted mess Sega has made out if Sonic's setting.
Have you guys seen the new boob the bat forces skin?
I would post but the guy who does it for free might get uppity
Yes, and here. you go you lazy ass. My favorite Rouge outfit now
>could have had this in prime
>where rouge is basically wonder woman
sighhhhhhhhh someone fetch me some cyanide already
If Sonic dies, I die with him.
I'd milk him dry as he dies
Correction, Surge is gonna do that. She’s gonna take all of his seed and force him to knock her up.
That's how she's gonna get her super form, "Power Surge" in canon
Sonic is built for Elise only
It's hilarious to me how these comic made Zor a creepy almost pervy sadist instead of his dialogue consisting of him sighing and whining. Not that it makes him an amazing character or anything but it's an improvment for sure.
Did you know the MV was originally meant for Archie?
Nah, I like him a lot better as a doomer defeatist that barely contributes in fights. Zor being a sadistic butthole means little when EVERY villain in IDW is a sadistic butthole.
I wasn't taking that into consideration at all, I just beat Lost World and he was so boring in that game, that was my frame of mind, he does it all poetic and shit, it's way more emo than "sigh woe is me"
He's an Emo homosexual, you just know he likes being stepped on like the worthless trash he is.
Sonic needs the burden of proof
Sonic needs to take me out on a date
Shut up Amy
I find it bizarre how people keep blaming Ian for the bad writing when Evan has been the head writer for a few years now, and her inexperience as a writer is why the comic has turned into such an unfocused mess, and she has admit Ted that the writing hasn’t been up to snuff on several occasions
Yet most people keep blaming Ian for everything, because Sonic fans historically suck balls at doing research on anything
What exactly were Ian Flynn's qualifications when he got the job exactly?
He got the job in Archie because Ken Penders was lazy and he got the job in IDW because he wrote Archie for over a decade and had a good relationship with Sega
Salvaging Penders mess.
Truth is, he's always been a shit writer, just look at that awful Oother M shit.
Okay, what were his qualifications when he took the job from Penders?
>Ian Flynn's qualifications
He has none, he got lucky.
He had already done a few backups proving he was halfway capable, and no one else wanted it.
>No one else wanted it
So he had no qualifications?
Again, he wrote a few backups while Penders was still running things.
So he was the best/only option they had.
When you have no qualifications (the backups were just him getting lucky) you get what you get in IDW. If nobody wants to make Sonic comics, no shit you get someone like Evan in charge.
Also explains why Archie was perfectly fine with ditching the comic.
They ditched it because they were sick of it and wanted to focus on Riverdale.
So by the time Archie was being written by Ian, it had no redeeming qualities (from a business standpoint)?
To Archie, yes. They were sick of how anyone that read Sonic had absolutely no interest in anything else they published, were tired of paying for the license, and wanted to pour all their money into the Riverdale relaunch instead. The headache from Penders was just a convenient "last straw".
Exactly what I mean. Ian wasn't pulling in numbers big enough to convince the Archie shitbags to keep the comic around. He gets shit in IDW but I imagine he'd be getting that same roasting if Archie were still around.
And Evan is only headwriter cause IDW is cheap. It's Sophie Campbell all over again.
>And Evan is only headwriter cause IDW is cheap.
Or, again, no one else is interested.
They somehow got Jason Aaron on TMNT. Assuming this isn't another Donnie Cates type situation, evidently they can pay when they want to.
And money is a BIG motivator for talent. Just imagine if the Sonic comics had Dan Mora on art for instance?
>They somehow got Jason Aaron on TMNT
Dear God, as if that comic wasn't bad enough.
They're rebooting it I think
Nope, same continuity. Although they are completely sidelining Jennika, it seems.
>they are completely sidelining Jennika
Wasn't she front and center on the new cover?
No? She's nowhere to be seen, actually.
https://www.ign.com/articles/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-relaunch-creators-jason-aaron
Then they must think Evan and Ian are fine. It is one of their best sellers, why fix whats broken?
Yeah, I do for the most part. The start of this convo was
damage controlling Ian while shitting on Evan despite Ian not being much better and having similar qualifications i.e. none.
In both cases, neither are high up in the grand scale of things. And neither will get higher unless they make their own comics. Not necessarily successful comics but comics not changed to Sonic or some established IP.
>They somehow got Jason Aaron on TMNT. Assuming this isn't another Donnie Cates type situation, evidently they can pay when they want to.
The real question is, will they be able to make a good enough return?
I wonder how the company is doing these days, I stopped paying attention to Archie after Sonic.
Well, Riverdale is dead. The comic and show.
So...back to the old Archie, the rare occasional horror comic or crossover, and...thats it.
IDW or Archie?
As far as qualifications go, Ian has a college degree in writing or something iirc, and he would also write-in to Archie sending them reviews as well as spec scripts, which they seemingly approved of considering they hired the guy for those back up stories.
He was definitely in the right place, right time for his promotion to head writer, but under his pen the book was much more critically acclaimed and sales did see an increase.
>Also explains why Archie was perfectly fine with ditching the comic.
Worth noting that the cancellation of Archie Sonic came after Archie apparently pumped a shitload of money into the Worlds Unite crossover to license characters and failed to make the high numbers they were expecting.
After the headaches caused by the Penders and Fulop lawsuits (which lead to the reboot that caused a bunch of readers to drop the book)
And their books declining in sales, a problem happening all throughout the comics industry, especially for non-capeshit comics (Though the first few issues of IDW Sonic sold really well, it didn't take long for them to drop down to the average Archie numbers)
Wrong image
Yeah, that was totally him and not them suddenly hiring actually competent artists, who made covers that didn't fill you with disgust.
Is it really different from people blaming Penders for all of Archie’s bad writing? People still think he wrote the slap, or Titan Tails.
>Sonic fans historically suck balls at doing research on anything
I don’t know if it’s as much Sonicfans to blame as social media turning everyone into Dunning-Kruger specimens. Everyone thinks they are an expert on any topic they are only vaguely familiar with.
>no one with actual skill and talent wants to work on sonic so we get garbage instead
Amazing
I refuse to believe there's not a single person in there that can write semi-decently. It must be something about Sega or Sonic Team or whatever sapping away the good writing from one's soul, like a debuff
>I can't believe some people suck
Really, moron?
Anon would agree with you. The point he’s trying to make is that there must be AT LEAST ONE person who can write decently out there
And there isn't, because some people (the ones working there) suck.
Again. Really, moron?
What the hell are you trying to say.
What happened to Shadow?
Sega happened
Dead in a ditch.
If Ian Flynn is such a great writer why do Drogune and Klaws McGee have virtually no audience?
They're not Sonic.
Ian is carried by the brand name and having a lot of stuff already written to work with. Also a lot of writers do worse on lesser known titles compared to their big name runs.
Racism
Nobody would give Ian the time of day if he didn't get lucky to write some kind of official Sonic media. Otherwise, he would have just been another fanfic writer.
Hell, it's probably why Sonic specifically gets so much talk about mandates. Because the fanfic writers are used to writing for these characters with no one overseeing them.
Should Lanolin get her own mini series spinoff?
boobs too big
Your dick is too small.
Alrighty Archie bros, let's all go down to this Sonic thread now that storytime is over.
No. Frick off.
I was already here before tonight's read-along.
Don't care. Leave anyways.
No.
No--ACK!!
Nah
I like how Eggman made his own Robotropolis only to lose ut two issues later.
SatAM Robotnik never lost his city under his watch.
Instead of the Shitty Six Eggman should have been able to use the bodies of the infected to combine them into a giant psuedo mech of his choice, or even a giant version of Sonic made up of all the corpses of those he can't save.
Soon.
The Restoration is supposed to be a large group effort, right?
Why is their team so small, and why do none of them ever tell Sonic to buzzsaw Eggmans head off.
>Why is their team so small
You're confusing the Diamond Cutters for the Restoration, which is always filled with people when we go there.
>why do none of them ever tell Sonic to buzzsaw Eggmans head off.
They had a whole arc about that
>why do none of them ever tell Sonic to buzzsaw Eggmans head off.
Most of them basically worship Sonic and his friends like gods. Sonic tells them to jump and they say “how high”, Sonic tells them to forgive terrorists they say “join the diamond cutters!”
Besides not like there’s anything they can do to change his mind even if they wanted to.
If only there was a character that would call him out. Someone that he would listen to and respect. Sadly I don't think there's anyone like that in this series. The closest was Shadow and he got shit on or jobbed.
Why would sonic fans want more sonic media to die out? Makes no fricking sense to cherry pick whats good and bad from a series that isnt consistently good.
I want IDW to stay around because i just like sonic, simple as and I dont want anything sonic related to fade out or be bad.
Bitterness over Archie being cancelled even though IDW Sonic was in no way responsible for that.
Book has a lot of problems and has caused people to sour on Ian
Because it's better for everyone (Who isn't complacent with eating slop) if bad things don't exist.