>You had one chance to bring back 2d animation in film with Bob's Burgers movie >You fricking blew it and cheered on its failure
There's a reason we're never getting it back
and the Frog
Honestly this is when it really died.
When a Princess movie can't pull in the numbers of fricking CHICKEN LITTLE and then the next one breaks half a billion dollars, and the one after THAT breaks a billion, you knew it was dead. PATF can't even claim Avatar ate its lunch or anything since the fricking Chipmunks movie made 400 million directly competing with Avatar, and so did Sherlock Holmes. Disney's First Black Princess unironically was the death note, so they threw Winnie the Pooh against Harry Potter just so they could blame anything else.
>At least Tiana makes money with Princes Merch
According to their annual calls when Rapunzel came out she actually lost money on merch, unsurprisingly a movie that less people saw than an Alvin and The Chipmunk sequel wasn't a hot christmas commodity and by next year they'd pretty much gotten rid of her in favor of Rapunzel merch, which apparently did sell crazy well.
Home on the Ranch was just a "Okay, if we hire every celebrity, will they want to go see our movie then?" hail mary, it was nothing next to a Princess movie drastically underperforming at a time when someone was being crowned the new Highest Grossing Movie of All Time.
California studios should stop trying to rest the futures of entire mediums on minorities' backs, if their "last" 2D movie to prove the medium's worth was Frozen instead of a weird black interpretation of a weird story, we'd still be getting traditionally animated kino.
Are you aware that there was worse performing 2d animation with out blacks? You just cant keep blaming your life failures on blacks and ignore everything else.
Who the frick cares about some shitty Adult Swim show? When people say they want 2D back, they're not talking about Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob's Burger's or Beavis and Butthead. People are referring to Disney's quality 2D movies.
Who the frick cares about some shitty Disney movies? Going back to 2D won't fix their rancid approach to story and characters. If I wanted dumb ideas punctuated by awful musical numbers I'd floss my teeth with a bandsaw.
they're finally doing another movie in the Klaus style? about time, that had more heart and visual flair than anything Disney's put out in the last decade. here's hoping Netflix gives it a limited theatrical release
>shitty outsourced Korean 2D
If that's what you're referring to, then of course.
>2D is dead.
For a brief return to form, it already shows that Disney's still got it in them, if some of the Pixar 2D shorts/promos weren't enough indication already. Hope they follow more on their recent initiative
Cel also was less expensive than CGI, even adjusted for inflation. Fun fact, at time of release adjusted for inflation, Lion King cost 15 million LESS than Despicable Me 2, which its creators touted their cost saving measures by drastically resusing assets from both it and Lorax. A movie so cheap they bragged about it was 15 million more than one of the most detailed and celebrated 2D animations of all time.
None? Production budgets and Marketing budgets are separate, Despicable Me 2 actually spent more than triple the entire film's budget on marketing. Minions 2 spent upwards of 300 million JUST on marketing, for a movie that cost 80 million.
>You will never have Frozen mature with the audience as it was presented in the F2 teaser >Frozen won't get a top of the line hand drawn series on the vein of Tangled (but without the decline of quality)
I love 2d animation, i think it's genuinely one of the greatest forms of visual arts, but i reckon it requires a greater workforce than 3d animations... Also, Disney/Pixar has sort of made it popular, so i think the younger audiences nowadays may or may not prefer 3D over 2D animation, though i'm not sure.
>You had one chance to bring back 2d animation in film with Bob's Burgers movie
>You fricking blew it and cheered on its failure
There's a reason we're never getting it back
>YOU HAD ONE CHANCE TO SAVE 2D ANIMATION BY SEEING (insert movie here) AND YOU FAILED
>Princess and the Frog
>Winnie the Pooh
>My Little Pony: The Movie
>Teen Titans Go: The Movie
>Bob's Burgers: The Movie
Am I missing any?
This is the first time in 10 years Disney gave us a theatrical 2d film and it bombed hard. This was our only chance
Genndy's will be direct to Netflix
>Genndy's will be direct to Netflix
and the Frog
Honestly this is when it really died.
When a Princess movie can't pull in the numbers of fricking CHICKEN LITTLE and then the next one breaks half a billion dollars, and the one after THAT breaks a billion, you knew it was dead. PATF can't even claim Avatar ate its lunch or anything since the fricking Chipmunks movie made 400 million directly competing with Avatar, and so did Sherlock Holmes. Disney's First Black Princess unironically was the death note, so they threw Winnie the Pooh against Harry Potter just so they could blame anything else.
that was back in 2009, when CGI was mostly rising and people wanted more realism
nowadays it isn't doing so well
Home on the Ranch was even more pathetic and truly a nail in the coffin. At least Tiana makes money with Princes Merch
>At least Tiana makes money with Princes Merch
According to their annual calls when Rapunzel came out she actually lost money on merch, unsurprisingly a movie that less people saw than an Alvin and The Chipmunk sequel wasn't a hot christmas commodity and by next year they'd pretty much gotten rid of her in favor of Rapunzel merch, which apparently did sell crazy well.
Home on the Ranch was just a "Okay, if we hire every celebrity, will they want to go see our movie then?" hail mary, it was nothing next to a Princess movie drastically underperforming at a time when someone was being crowned the new Highest Grossing Movie of All Time.
nope, this is the face of the man who killed 2d animation. Without Shrek, animation studio won't be so desperate to copy it's formula.
California studios should stop trying to rest the futures of entire mediums on minorities' backs, if their "last" 2D movie to prove the medium's worth was Frozen instead of a weird black interpretation of a weird story, we'd still be getting traditionally animated kino.
Are you aware that there was worse performing 2d animation with out blacks? You just cant keep blaming your life failures on blacks and ignore everything else.
>Honestly this is when it really died.
Not even close. Disney tried to kill off 2D YEARS before that movie, and Winnie the Pooh was their chance to.
That's what happens when all of your advertising amounts to "LOOK EVERYONE! BLACK PRINCESS!"
>Wolfwalkers
Genndy is doing a 2D theatrical movie but you might want to see what it is about
https://ew.com/tv/primal-season-2-premiere-trailer-exclusive/
Who the frick cares about some shitty Adult Swim show? When people say they want 2D back, they're not talking about Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob's Burger's or Beavis and Butthead. People are referring to Disney's quality 2D movies.
This will literally never happen.
Bob was the best it was going to get.
Although, Genddy's film is coming.
And not only that but you had 2 chances with Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh.
Who the frick cares about some shitty Disney movies? Going back to 2D won't fix their rancid approach to story and characters. If I wanted dumb ideas punctuated by awful musical numbers I'd floss my teeth with a bandsaw.
You people really need to start watching cartoons from other places other than America and europe
anime is already popular nowadays
the chad Sergio Pablos never stopped
>Remember heat Quest for Fire?
they're finally doing another movie in the Klaus style? about time, that had more heart and visual flair than anything Disney's put out in the last decade. here's hoping Netflix gives it a limited theatrical release
tfw you're one of the luck people that got to see Klaus in theaters
I didn’t know Klaus had a theatrical release
when it was nominated for an Oscar Netflix allowed some theaters to show it. there was an indie near me that played it for a little while
Klaus was too fricking kino.
Why do these apes give me JoJo vibes?
This man and his team are single handedly saving 2D feature animation in the west
Contrapposto gestures
>Netflix
Cancelled
There's a ton of western animation that is animated in 2D. You morons shit on it daily.
>shitty outsourced Korean 2D
If that's what you're referring to, then of course.
For a brief return to form, it already shows that Disney's still got it in them, if some of the Pixar 2D shorts/promos weren't enough indication already. Hope they follow more on their recent initiative
2D is not dead, it's just not profitable.
>they should push for more 2D animashun
who's they, homosexual?
obviously.
Why is the myth that 2D is more expensive than 3D so widely spread?
Gives a good "out" for studios not to use it.
And also many anons confuse current 2D with CEL 2D. Cel died in the 90s.
Cel also was less expensive than CGI, even adjusted for inflation. Fun fact, at time of release adjusted for inflation, Lion King cost 15 million LESS than Despicable Me 2, which its creators touted their cost saving measures by drastically resusing assets from both it and Lorax. A movie so cheap they bragged about it was 15 million more than one of the most detailed and celebrated 2D animations of all time.
You have how much of the budget was marketing? Marketing budgets have become insane.
None? Production budgets and Marketing budgets are separate, Despicable Me 2 actually spent more than triple the entire film's budget on marketing. Minions 2 spent upwards of 300 million JUST on marketing, for a movie that cost 80 million.
>2D is dead.
seems like a good time to mention Mercury Filmworks is making a movie
https://www.animationmagazine.net/features/mercury-filmworks-offers-an-early-look-at-once-our-land-movie/
>Mercury Filmworks
>Movie
They never always only worked on flash,
Because they also did work on some of the Disney DTV movies, PPG movie, Looney Tunes BiA, and Curious George.
Yep
Encanto is the best theatrically released western animated movie in years and it's 3D.
what does 2D have to show for itself?
>what does 2D have to show for itself?
Klaus
>Encanto is the best theatrically released western animated movie in years
That's not The Bad Guys
>You will never have Frozen mature with the audience as it was presented in the F2 teaser
>Frozen won't get a top of the line hand drawn series on the vein of Tangled (but without the decline of quality)
I love 2d animation, i think it's genuinely one of the greatest forms of visual arts, but i reckon it requires a greater workforce than 3d animations... Also, Disney/Pixar has sort of made it popular, so i think the younger audiences nowadays may or may not prefer 3D over 2D animation, though i'm not sure.
>grandpa doesn't know how to use internet
I hope A.I starts helping older queens like op
be careful what you wish for because you might just get Quest for Camelot level garbage
Quest for Camelot's animation was still pretty good so it's a worthwhile risk.
At least the french make some effort to keep it alive