I actually think ATLA and the Boondocks have the best replications of it.
The new Superman cartoon, Castlevania, Vox Machina and other Netflix "animes" look off though. It's just the Capeshit artstyle under a different name.
I didn't say it was a problem. I'm just curious as to why even the best anime-esque shows still look more or less "western" despite how hard they're trying to emulate (mainstream) anime.
To be fair, the creators told their animators to watch all of FLCL repeatedly for reference on how ATLA's style should look (especially for comedic scenes), so of course you're going to get an aesthetic that doesn't look like "traditional" anime.
It's not supposed to be a 1:1 imitation either, you pedantic tool. The creators never wanted ATLA to explicitly pass as an anime copy, which was a good thing because the animation of their show (especially after season 1) was leagues better than the 5 frames-per-second that most other bog-standard anime were working with at that time.
>how dare western cartoons keep a consistent framerate for their animations instead of having their characters move nothing but their mouths for 90% of the show
>directors who have never worked on anime copying the style because it's more popular >creating a unique visual aesthetic is too hard so anime just becomes shorthand for "more serious than a normal cartoon, but less serious than an HBO drama" >directors who don't know how to direct animated action and just try to copy the vague feel of anime (speedlines, screaming, quick, choppy movement) >storyboard artists with the same problem >writers who are mentally stunted at a 6th grade level, but also have massive contempt for anime for being too immature and "gross" >producers and executives above them that have zero sense of taste or any fucking idea what they're doing, but believe that because they're in charge their decisions must be right and superior to the underpaid, overworked subhumans they keep hiring >again; none of these people have any actual experience or insight into the anime industry >finding anyone fresh out of animation school that can do much better than an basic walk cycle, and is also sort of a weeb (who probably hasn't watched any anime released in the last 15 years unless it's on toonami) is like finding a needle in the pacific ocean
tl;dr - Western animation industry is a bunch of poseurs who want to be anime, but don't want to be like anime.
This, the most important things about anime, direction and music, have not yet been surpassed or even touched by cartoons. An anime form the 70s has direction tricks that would leave even great directors like Genndy amazed. We will have to wait maybe another 50 years until we are as good at directing cartoons as the nips were 50 years ago.
PIcs unrelated.
Better question is why do so many Cinemaphile anons like Adventure Time noodly arm bullshit
I actually think ATLA and the Boondocks have the best replications of it.
The new Superman cartoon, Castlevania, Vox Machina and other Netflix "animes" look off though. It's just the Capeshit artstyle under a different name.
>. It's just the Capeshit artstyle under a different name.
I'm getting real tired of seeing that phrase.
Boohoo
>Boohoo
Its one of the Cinemaphile universal signals of "I actually have no point and just parrot buzzwords like a tumblrite"
I think you just want to be mad
Projection for 200, Alex.
>erm, it’s not 1 to 1 with real anime, this is a problem
I didn't say it was a problem. I'm just curious as to why even the best anime-esque shows still look more or less "western" despite how hard they're trying to emulate (mainstream) anime.
Maybe they want to add a western spin and make it unique. Panty and stocking got a western cartoon look but still went for eastern anime style.
P&S is a parody that switches styles for every show they are parodying.
To be fair, the creators told their animators to watch all of FLCL repeatedly for reference on how ATLA's style should look (especially for comedic scenes), so of course you're going to get an aesthetic that doesn't look like "traditional" anime.
It looks nothing like flcl either.
It's not supposed to be a 1:1 imitation either, you pedantic tool. The creators never wanted ATLA to explicitly pass as an anime copy, which was a good thing because the animation of their show (especially after season 1) was leagues better than the 5 frames-per-second that most other bog-standard anime were working with at that time.
Idk Flcl is 100x times more interestingly animated than atla.
Now that you say it, it would have been kino if atla was as experimental as flcl.
>how dare western cartoons keep a consistent framerate for their animations instead of having their characters move nothing but their mouths for 90% of the show
>directors who have never worked on anime copying the style because it's more popular
>creating a unique visual aesthetic is too hard so anime just becomes shorthand for "more serious than a normal cartoon, but less serious than an HBO drama"
>directors who don't know how to direct animated action and just try to copy the vague feel of anime (speedlines, screaming, quick, choppy movement)
>storyboard artists with the same problem
>writers who are mentally stunted at a 6th grade level, but also have massive contempt for anime for being too immature and "gross"
>producers and executives above them that have zero sense of taste or any fucking idea what they're doing, but believe that because they're in charge their decisions must be right and superior to the underpaid, overworked subhumans they keep hiring
>again; none of these people have any actual experience or insight into the anime industry
>finding anyone fresh out of animation school that can do much better than an basic walk cycle, and is also sort of a weeb (who probably hasn't watched any anime released in the last 15 years unless it's on toonami) is like finding a needle in the pacific ocean
tl;dr - Western animation industry is a bunch of poseurs who want to be anime, but don't want to be like anime.
Being anime means having a nice art style btw
Define nice artstyle
That's exactly what talentless retards think. Problem is that saying "just do a nice art style" means nothing.
This, the most important things about anime, direction and music, have not yet been surpassed or even touched by cartoons. An anime form the 70s has direction tricks that would leave even great directors like Genndy amazed. We will have to wait maybe another 50 years until we are as good at directing cartoons as the nips were 50 years ago.
They're lazy
well for one thing the animation was done by a Korean studio
It's only something the Japanese soul can replicate.
Hiring Koreans is cheaper