Most of his character arc takes place outside of the book. He is 80 something years old at the time.
The only thing that happens is he pays his dowry to Elrond by defeating Sauron. That’s his part in the story.
had to pay by defeating Sauron
had to retrieve a silmaril from Morgoth >These elves ask too much for their daughters
Elves are incestuous.
They intend these labours to kill the potential spouse
It's not a story about Aragorn. The bad guy gets defeated and the virtually flawless guy ascends to the throne is a symbol of the golden age that the Men of West is about to start.
Frick that shit. If you removed the hobbits, the LOTR movies would be infinitely better. I just sigh whenever the fricking hobbits are back on the screen crying in each others arms all the time "Mr. Frodo! Mr. Frodo!"
>wow Aragorn is so stoic and cool, and Legolas is so athletic and nimble, and Gimli a badass yet down to earth and funny, I relate to these characters so much
Yes, I played sports in high school. I don't relate with whiney homosexuals like you do. Stop projecting.
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>played sports in high school
Wow anon "played sports" for a no name high school team over 15 years ago.
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I made out with a girl when I was 10
Between 18-28 I always had a gf
If you want a list of what I think are my accomplishments I can do that for you
I always thought Frodo and Sam were gays. Same with Marry and Pippin. Remove all that homosexualry from LOTR and you have a leaner and more to the point 10/10 series of movies. Scenes with Aragorn, Gandalf, Gimli, Saruman, the Eye, the orcs, scenes of the past with epic showdowns, scenes with the Nazgul etc. are all epic and amazing. The scenes with the hobbits are eye-rolling crap of grown men crying in each others arms like babies for way too long.
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Read it and weep, like your teary-eyed hero, Frodo.
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>unironically bragging about making out with a girl when you were 10 to try and validate yourself to anonymous posters on a mongolian basket weaving forum
Anon stop, this is just pathetic
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Cut the hobbits out of the LOTR and it infinitely improves.
It's not about relating to characters brainlet, LotR is about hope and loyalty and the smallest most powerless most innocent beings in the world selflessly sacrificing everything and enduring great pain to save everyone.
He isn't hiding because he fears responsibility, he's hiding because he doesn't have faith in the line of kings and his blood.
It's because of the weakness of his ancestors that the ring was not destroyed and Arnor fell.
The only thing he fears is becoming another Isildur.
He's also worried that his appearance might challenge the rule of the Steward of Gondor and cause infighting.
The stewards of Gondor have rejected the return of various heirs of Elendil over the years. You can't just walk up to Gondor and call yourself king just because you have the right bloodline and expect to be taken seriously. The true king of Gondor was basically considered a myth by that point, since the stewards had ruled for centuries.
Did you know Viggo Mortensen entire skeleton shattered and was pulverised during this scene? The yell you hear is genuine and he died after. Thankfully they filmed this scene last.
Aragorn is not a particularly flawed character in the book. Once Gandalf has convinced him to return to Gondor as the heir of Isildur he does everything he is supposed to and he does it well.
He's the Batman of the LOTR. A Gary Stu in everyday. Invincible, immune to damage, drowning, falling. Has the impossible strength of 5 grown men. Remember when he jumps onto 6 250lb 6'5 orcs in TFOTR and they all tumble over like they're toddlers? That's capeshit filmmaking right there.
Aragorn in LotR is essentially on the same level as Achilles in the Iliad, he's descended from a royal line of mythical demigod warriors. guy lives to 220 years old.
Yeah how dare they put a GOOD guy in my movies for once? Didn't they know that great movies need to be the story of the decline of some pathetic piece of human trash? Heroism is out, being a degenerate is in.
one of the curiosities of lotr is that the book we read is just an edition of many editions. like a book from antiquity that was copied over and over during medieval times. same with lotr. it was also copied in gondor and obviously the scribes left out all the bad shit about aragorn.
tolkin was really autistic about such things. but that too hard to understand for the normie npc I guess
the personal, family and place names of hobbits and the shire are all "englishified" but in the story their names are all either plain and unpretentious westron or in an ancient language related to rohirric
Tolkien mentions this on like page 1 of the prologue, where he states that Bilbo's "there and back again" is found in the same manuscript as the LOTR stories in the book named in the link.
As a scholar of medieval languages, he was very aware of different recensions of the same story existing in different manuscripts and this is his final layer of autism that is too kino to depict in film. He was a very famous scholar of Beowulf before LOTR or the Hobbit were published and had he never written the books, he would still be relatively well known in medieval history/English lit for his contributions. Iirc he also theorized that there may have been other recensions of Beowulf lost to time as the text survives from one single manuscript and the others were probably destroyed during Henry VIIIs dissolution of the monasteries.
In reality it all happened on pre-great deluge earth, Eru is God, maiar/valar are angels, who knows what "really" happened. Aragorn is of course one of Jesus and Davids forefathers the one true king. Elves are like nephilim or something dunno spitballing, Morgoth is Satan and Sauron is a fallen angel, Aragorn is Gilgamesh???
this bothered me too once, you see aragorn effortlessly soloing nazgul and shit like that but then he almost jobs to some brute Black person uruk hai with no skill
he only drove off the nazgul and not all of the 9 were present, if he hadn't retreated they would have come back with the rest, but he still couldn't stop frodo getting stabbed and if arwen hadn't come by they would have been screwed, in the book it was gandalf which drove them off but I can understand why they made that change for the movie, not perfect but still works.
What about the time he ate a piece of roasted pork that tasted a bit off and then he had diarrhea the entirety of the next day? And then the more he shat the more he drank, but the more he drank the more he shat.
So glad we have israeli authors today writing fantasy novels.
lotr is really story written by incel.
Aragon is tall and handsome so he can anything.
All the girls like him and will do anything for him.
Nobody even knows him and he is made a king on a whim.
He kills all orcs in their cardles and people love him for it.
He doesn't need to be a character, he was just around to be a reassuring calming presence since your protags are a couple vulnerable midgets going through the shit
Nah you're just moronic. Prince Imrahil and the Dol Amroth boys plus Aragorn rallying the coastal lands is fricking dank. All the ghosts do is clear the ships.
>unexpected, contrived >the plan of finding the undead army was discussed and seen in the movie
Yep, you are are complete moron.
Destroying the ring by throwing it into lava of Mt Doom was also a Deus Ex Machina, right?
I think the reason why the first one passes and the last one don't is because the plan to destroy the ring was introduced in the first movie. The army of the dead appears as a plot point a third into the third movie.
Compare it to the charge of the Rohirrim which is the climax of a plot point built up since the second movie.
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It's an ass pull, but not a deus ex machina. It's a clear plot point to seek out the ghost army and force their allegiance. A deus ex machina would have them just show up with no explanation.
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There are several asspulls in lotr: >Gandalf resurrection and power up >Army of the dead >I'M NO MAN >Random wind gust that makes Gollum lose his grounding and drop to the lava >Eagles always come to the rescue whenever the heroes are imprisoned, losing or stranded in the middle of flowing lava >etc
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If you sacrifice yourself for your friends/for the greater good, you are resurrected and more powerful than before. That is how it tends to work.
The existence of the ghost army isn't unexpected and contrived - the fact that it can flawless victory easy mode roll over the host of Mordor is unexpected and contrived.
By the time Aragorn gets to Rohan, he thought Arwen was on her way to leave Middle Earth with the rest of the elves. After he falls off the cliff with the worg he has a vision of Arwen and reaffirms himself to her even though he still thinks she's leaving and shuns of Eowyn.
It's basically the same as a widower going on a single date after the funeral, deciding it wasn't for him, and then oh look she came back to life.
Fellowship is the only movie where they feel like they're even remotely in danger. The rest of the trilogy they may as well be fighting wet paper towels.
Even without the small arc about him accepting Kingship, Aragorn would have been great cause of Viggo. A great performer can make a character even if the ebin script doesn't contain a big character arc, and a shitty one can ruin a well written character. Even a movie Aragorn that was determined to be King from moment one would still have been great. Charismatic, likeable, humble, a sense of age and experience, etc. In short, OP is a gay.
>shitskin can't grasp a human being perfect
and he's right and you're wrong
Wrong about what?
He's 80 years old. He already had character development
Most of his character arc takes place outside of the book. He is 80 something years old at the time.
The only thing that happens is he pays his dowry to Elrond by defeating Sauron. That’s his part in the story.
>Aragorn had to pay by defeating Sauron
>Beren had to retrieve a silmaril from Morgoth
These elves ask too much for their daughters
had to pay by defeating Sauron
had to retrieve a silmaril from Morgoth
>These elves ask too much for their daughters
Elves are incestuous.
They intend these labours to kill the potential spouse
That's why you don't ask for their daughters. You just take them.
That didnt work out too well for Eol the dark elf or for the sons of Feanor that were after Luthien.
It's not a story about Aragorn. The bad guy gets defeated and the virtually flawless guy ascends to the throne is a symbol of the golden age that the Men of West is about to start.
The golden age of men is already long over when Aragorn ascend to the throne and It's not coming back
moron
He is a mythical hero, the only normal people you can relate to in Lotr are the hobbits and Bree-folk.
Frick that shit. If you removed the hobbits, the LOTR movies would be infinitely better. I just sigh whenever the fricking hobbits are back on the screen crying in each others arms all the time "Mr. Frodo! Mr. Frodo!"
Dogshit tier, 90 IQ, adolescent opinion
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO RELATE WITH THE WHINY LITTLE b***h CHARACTER BECAUSE YOU ARE A WHINY LITTLE b***h TOO JUST LIKE MEE AAAAAAHHHHHHH
>wow Aragorn is so stoic and cool, and Legolas is so athletic and nimble, and Gimli a badass yet down to earth and funny, I relate to these characters so much
Yes, I played sports in high school. I don't relate with whiney homosexuals like you do. Stop projecting.
>played sports in high school
Wow anon "played sports" for a no name high school team over 15 years ago.
I made out with a girl when I was 10
Between 18-28 I always had a gf
If you want a list of what I think are my accomplishments I can do that for you
I always thought Frodo and Sam were gays. Same with Marry and Pippin. Remove all that homosexualry from LOTR and you have a leaner and more to the point 10/10 series of movies. Scenes with Aragorn, Gandalf, Gimli, Saruman, the Eye, the orcs, scenes of the past with epic showdowns, scenes with the Nazgul etc. are all epic and amazing. The scenes with the hobbits are eye-rolling crap of grown men crying in each others arms like babies for way too long.
Read it and weep, like your teary-eyed hero, Frodo.
>unironically bragging about making out with a girl when you were 10 to try and validate yourself to anonymous posters on a mongolian basket weaving forum
Anon stop, this is just pathetic
Cut the hobbits out of the LOTR and it infinitely improves.
It's not about relating to characters brainlet, LotR is about hope and loyalty and the smallest most powerless most innocent beings in the world selflessly sacrificing everything and enduring great pain to save everyone.
It is not about le King Man swinging sword
>It is not about le King Man swinging sword
What a shame.
He starts off the trilogy hiding from his responsibility as the heir of gondor whomever, you could even call him a coward
He was biding his time
He isn't hiding because he fears responsibility, he's hiding because he doesn't have faith in the line of kings and his blood.
It's because of the weakness of his ancestors that the ring was not destroyed and Arnor fell.
The only thing he fears is becoming another Isildur.
He's also worried that his appearance might challenge the rule of the Steward of Gondor and cause infighting.
>He starts off the trilogy hiding from his responsibility as the heir of gondor whomever, you could even call him a coward
Wow Reddit has good film discussion
The stewards of Gondor have rejected the return of various heirs of Elendil over the years. You can't just walk up to Gondor and call yourself king just because you have the right bloodline and expect to be taken seriously. The true king of Gondor was basically considered a myth by that point, since the stewards had ruled for centuries.
he broke his big toe i wouldnt exactly call that waltzing
Did you know Viggo Mortensen entire skeleton shattered and was pulverised during this scene? The yell you hear is genuine and he died after. Thankfully they filmed this scene last.
Your chudistic sarcasm is not appreciated. Get out.
Dilate before your wound heals up xD
Your genuine humor is appreciated. Please stay
You need go back
Jackson radically changed his character from the book and turned him into a Gary Stu
Aragorn is not a particularly flawed character in the book. Once Gandalf has convinced him to return to Gondor as the heir of Isildur he does everything he is supposed to and he does it well.
Its the opposite.
Just say you never read the books. His character in them is ridiculously overpowered.
Jackson gave him more character development in the movies than he had in the books.
Jesus Christ what a terrible post
he is literally more of a Gary Stu in the books
> Gary Stu
Such insecurity. Just say Mary Sue.
He's the Batman of the LOTR. A Gary Stu in everyday. Invincible, immune to damage, drowning, falling. Has the impossible strength of 5 grown men. Remember when he jumps onto 6 250lb 6'5 orcs in TFOTR and they all tumble over like they're toddlers? That's capeshit filmmaking right there.
He is descended from a god and half elf
Aragorn in LotR is essentially on the same level as Achilles in the Iliad, he's descended from a royal line of mythical demigod warriors. guy lives to 220 years old.
So Gimli is an almost Aragorn demigod tier fighter based on his feats in the movies? How did Gimli get so powerful?
A demigod human is just the equivalent of a slight above average dwarf.
That's true. It required only 14 dwarves to hold the lonely mountains at the battle of the five armies.
Wow, how fricking lame. The more lore i hear of lotr the worse it seems. Might as well have a power level chart in the simarillion
He used to be a pro wrestler,that is a very basic move for them.
literally me
dubs confirm hackson's trilogy is capeshit
Cloakshit
> Gary Stu
Mary Sue.
I'm pretty sure the whole point is that the world was saved by humble hobbits despite the existence of an obvious superhuman hero like Aragorn.
Yeah how dare they put a GOOD guy in my movies for once? Didn't they know that great movies need to be the story of the decline of some pathetic piece of human trash? Heroism is out, being a degenerate is in.
Anons will make posts like this and then cry about capeshit for hours on end. Just be genuine for once please.
>capeshit is when the main character isn't evil
More brilliant film analysis from Cinemaphile.
He's a Dune-A-Dime or whatever, he doesn't need character developement
well he's a dime-a-dozen white cis-male protagonist.
on my first watch i thought boromir aragorn and isildur were all the same guy
autism speaks
one of the curiosities of lotr is that the book we read is just an edition of many editions. like a book from antiquity that was copied over and over during medieval times. same with lotr. it was also copied in gondor and obviously the scribes left out all the bad shit about aragorn.
tolkin was really autistic about such things. but that too hard to understand for the normie npc I guess
i would like you to post some sauce for that. i get what you're saying and it even makes sense, but i don't remember hearing that anywhere
it's even in the book itself. pretty meta
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Red_Book_of_Westmarch
just wait until you learn the real names of the hobbits
what about the real names of the hobbits? i know the names of dwarves are all jotunns from norse eddas and stuff
the personal, family and place names of hobbits and the shire are all "englishified" but in the story their names are all either plain and unpretentious westron or in an ancient language related to rohirric
Tolkien mentions this on like page 1 of the prologue, where he states that Bilbo's "there and back again" is found in the same manuscript as the LOTR stories in the book named in the link.
As a scholar of medieval languages, he was very aware of different recensions of the same story existing in different manuscripts and this is his final layer of autism that is too kino to depict in film. He was a very famous scholar of Beowulf before LOTR or the Hobbit were published and had he never written the books, he would still be relatively well known in medieval history/English lit for his contributions. Iirc he also theorized that there may have been other recensions of Beowulf lost to time as the text survives from one single manuscript and the others were probably destroyed during Henry VIIIs dissolution of the monasteries.
>unreliable narrator trope taken to the extreme in the form of an unreliable author
What's the point of even reading then? I bet sauron didn't even really exist
In reality it all happened on pre-great deluge earth, Eru is God, maiar/valar are angels, who knows what "really" happened. Aragorn is of course one of Jesus and Davids forefathers the one true king. Elves are like nephilim or something dunno spitballing, Morgoth is Satan and Sauron is a fallen angel, Aragorn is Gilgamesh???
you're baiting for someone to start b***hing about him killing the mouth of sauron but all bl*ck numenoreans deserve death.
he got his shit pushed in by orc that killed boromir
he put up a fight, but aragorn took his arm off, impaled him, then beheaded him. it was lurtz on the receiving end of the push
this bothered me too once, you see aragorn effortlessly soloing nazgul and shit like that but then he almost jobs to some brute Black person uruk hai with no skill
he only drove off the nazgul and not all of the 9 were present, if he hadn't retreated they would have come back with the rest, but he still couldn't stop frodo getting stabbed and if arwen hadn't come by they would have been screwed, in the book it was gandalf which drove them off but I can understand why they made that change for the movie, not perfect but still works.
Glorfindel, not Gandalf. Gandalf had a separate battle with 4 Nazgul earlier in the story.
shitskins' advices are irrelevant
Did you miss the parts where he failed the fellowship, couldn't save gandalf, boromir or the hobbits and almost died falling off a cliff?
I know, it must be scary for your generation to see a movie with a competent white man as a hero.
>Missing the point of the post
LET THE ARMIES OF FRANCE KNOW THIS, NEVER AGAIN WILL THE LAND OF MY PEOPLE FALL INTO ENEMY HANDS.
THE CITY OF OSGILIATH HAS BEEN RECLAIMED, FOR ENGLAND
I would love to volunteer for 40 shillings to kill some frenchies
>nooo you can't just have a stoic hero king character he has to be troubled and nuanced so modern audiences can relate
what was his tax policy?
What about the time he ate a piece of roasted pork that tasted a bit off and then he had diarrhea the entirety of the next day? And then the more he shat the more he drank, but the more he drank the more he shat.
So glad we have israeli authors today writing fantasy novels.
lotr is really story written by incel.
Aragon is tall and handsome so he can anything.
All the girls like him and will do anything for him.
Nobody even knows him and he is made a king on a whim.
He kills all orcs in their cardles and people love him for it.
You don't have to be a king to be a Middle Earth Rocker.
He doesn't need to be a character, he was just around to be a reassuring calming presence since your protags are a couple vulnerable midgets going through the shit
Who’s Waltz?
Did the shire have a red light district?
he shoulda have called his dead army up earlier
didnt know he was paladin/cleric
why he didnt take them into mordor is one of shittiest plot holes in teh book
also why does the bad guy saruman just do nothing for rest of books
The dead army don't do what they do in the movie in the books.
Don’t reply to obvious bait, jfc
It's called being Chad.
Wouldn't the logical choice have been leaving minas tirith to the orcs while using the dead army to straight up conquer mordor / sauron tower?
They weren't sworn to do that + I bet Sauron has instant anti ghost magic defense
another logic hole a miel wide
the ghost army's oath was to protect minas tirith, not attack mordor
> ghost pilpul
The only way to protect minas tirith was to attack mordor at that point. What are they afraid of? Dying? They're already dead
>claims pilpul
>as he tries to reinterperate the wording of the oath
give your head a shake, moshe
The logical choice would not be cheapening the whole battle of Minas Tirith by having the ghost army be a moronic Deus ex machina green CGI wave
It was even dumber in the book.
Nah you're just moronic. Prince Imrahil and the Dol Amroth boys plus Aragorn rallying the coastal lands is fricking dank. All the ghosts do is clear the ships.
>Deus ex machina
You don't really know what that is.
Wow yeah you're right this doesn't apply at all, you fricking dumbass
>unexpected, contrived
>the plan of finding the undead army was discussed and seen in the movie
Yep, you are are complete moron.
Destroying the ring by throwing it into lava of Mt Doom was also a Deus Ex Machina, right?
I think the reason why the first one passes and the last one don't is because the plan to destroy the ring was introduced in the first movie. The army of the dead appears as a plot point a third into the third movie.
Compare it to the charge of the Rohirrim which is the climax of a plot point built up since the second movie.
It's an ass pull, but not a deus ex machina. It's a clear plot point to seek out the ghost army and force their allegiance. A deus ex machina would have them just show up with no explanation.
There are several asspulls in lotr:
>Gandalf resurrection and power up
>Army of the dead
>I'M NO MAN
>Random wind gust that makes Gollum lose his grounding and drop to the lava
>Eagles always come to the rescue whenever the heroes are imprisoned, losing or stranded in the middle of flowing lava
>etc
If you sacrifice yourself for your friends/for the greater good, you are resurrected and more powerful than before. That is how it tends to work.
>Unexpected, contrived
The existence of the ghost army isn't unexpected and contrived - the fact that it can flawless victory easy mode roll over the host of Mordor is unexpected and contrived.
moron.
Also why didn't saruman use nazguls as aviation force to drop bombs on humans
>Nooooooooooo he has to be morally grey like my favorite nihilistic kinos!!!!!
Was Aragorn a Mary Sue?
>For me
>cheated on his cute elf gf who chose mortal life with some inbred blonde tomboy
>has no flaws
lol no
He didn't cheat, he just led her on like a tease.
Eowyn>>>>>>>>>>>
All Arwen does is make a shitty flag. Eowyn is a based shield maiden and probably has the tightest Rohussy in Middle Earth.
Eowyn is ran through by both men and horses
Horse girls are insane
Arwen is more beautiful and that is the only metric that matters.
By the time Aragorn gets to Rohan, he thought Arwen was on her way to leave Middle Earth with the rest of the elves. After he falls off the cliff with the worg he has a vision of Arwen and reaffirms himself to her even though he still thinks she's leaving and shuns of Eowyn.
It's basically the same as a widower going on a single date after the funeral, deciding it wasn't for him, and then oh look she came back to life.
>cheated on his cute elf gf who chose mortal life with some inbred blonde tomboy
Galadriel?
in the book or the movie? the movie he develops by accepting his destiny to be king. In the books, he isn't the main character.
But what was his tax policy?
>we never find out the Night King's tax policy
GRRM is a hack confirmed
He is a Mary Sue but it’s justified in the fact that he’s not actually the main hero and exists as a juxtaposition to Frodo who is the main hero
relating is for pussies
Fellowship is the only movie where they feel like they're even remotely in danger. The rest of the trilogy they may as well be fighting wet paper towels.
Yup. They became super heroes in the Two Towers and RotK. The battles felt more hard-won in Fellowship.
>waltz's
moron.
Mr. Frodo! Let me suck your wiener, Mr. Frodo! Pleeaasse! *Sam cries*
Even without the small arc about him accepting Kingship, Aragorn would have been great cause of Viggo. A great performer can make a character even if the ebin script doesn't contain a big character arc, and a shitty one can ruin a well written character. Even a movie Aragorn that was determined to be King from moment one would still have been great. Charismatic, likeable, humble, a sense of age and experience, etc. In short, OP is a gay.
Chin up, buddy! That some what attractive feminist will sleep with you if you trash men enough times.