>Le obviously evil dude kills his henchmen for no reason
Words can't describe how much I hate this fricking trope. Doesn't help that another Batista's character in Spectre did the exact same thing when he was introduced.
It can work as its usually not hard to replace someone in a position of power if there is an opportunity for success even at great risk. It weeds out the lazy and unambitious so you get desperate and hungry people of confident buttholes with elevated psychopathy score. You have to be selective over what you severely punish people for. If you punish for failure you get shielded from information and the organizational chain falls apart when your underlings create political fiefdoms to protect each other from you and selectively share communications.
Offer severe punishment for lying, withholding information or taking action on a set course without a well thought out plan with contingencies and it works.
have you ever asked yourself what the term “jobber” actually means?
its a pro-wrestling term for no-names who get put in the ring just to get beat on and lose because that’s their literal “job”
i'd probably respond with my own words instead of spewing the same shit that reddit frickstains like yourself keep posting here
fricking homosexual Black person
Did he scream at a group of mentats for not having the southern hemisphere of Arrakis detailed on the globe, followed by killing an officer who tried to patronize him (someone known for randomly killing people)?
what's the point of hiring big name actors if none of them gives good performance?
this was embarrassing for everyone involved they either sleepwalked through their shit dialogue or went full meme moronation
bravo nolan
>the Fremen specialize in ground combat and their anti-air is limited to MANPADS that can't penetrate shields >let's constantly engage them in hand-to-hand combat instead of just carpet bombing them
kind of hilarious how the only person to figure this out was the supposedly insane and most unhinged bad guy
Dennis couldn't keep his story straight. Even the characters were confused. Feyd defeats the fremen and restores spice production. The threatened spice harvests were the reason for the Emperor's intercession on Arrakis in the book. In the movie, the Emperor actually gives no reason for showing up, none at all. He just starts demanding answers about the southern regions, inconsequential matters! Everyone is just standing around confused.
the Emperor goes because Paul is still alive and views him as a threat. It doesn't explain why he set up his entire army in the middle of an obvious ambush spot and for no reason ignored the warning about the storm that would frick with their shields
>In the movie, the Emperor actually gives no reason for showing up, none at all.
Pesky Paul send him mean letter where he said that he will blowup spices with atomic bombs and snitch to big houses that emperor is secretly a homosexual who ordered destruction of house of atreides.
>I'm going to use atomic weapons, which are banned and universally loathed to the point that anybody who uses them gets attacked by every house, to blow up the one resource everybody needs >but somehow telling the houses the emperor killed my dad is enough to make up for all this
how do you not call this bluff?
>ok yeah guys so we blew up the crazed prophet who had nothing to lose >see he decided to blow up the spice when we opened fire since again, nothing to lose >civilization will end in 6 months when we run out of reserves
>We can't because Paul might die.
"Paul" doesn't seem to be the reason of fear AT ALL. The chance that an anti-spice-nuke domino effect is the fear... and that doesn't require Paul. All it takes is the bomb going off, and a falling pigeon could set that off. In fact, Paul's son could do it. Or Paul's aides could do it. Or Chani could do it. Or Jessica could do it. Or some random insane Fremen could do it. Or Feyd could do it: he's "got nothing to lose" either!
Both Paul and Feyd could threaten "obey me or I'll blow up spice forever" at the same time since they are both equally capable and equally motivated and equally fearless of the outcome. It's not a "standoff" at all and now the entire universe cannot comply with both at the same time. >Nuh uh
Yeah huh.
And for Paul, a messianic prophet claiming to be making decisions for the good of mankind is CLEARLY bluffing since he's threatening to "kill all of mankind."
Also, frick how useful the spice is: it's apparently so valuable that 99.9% of humans don't have enough worth to trade anything for even a taste of spice, so NO ONE is using it except the top 5 people of the highest tier houses and, oh yeah, Navigators who bathe in it. Aside from a "loss of space travel," I really, really, really, really, really don't see the harm to basically ANY human who suddenly becomes deprived of it. It's literally only a threat to the most extreme upper classes. Better hope you chose a nice planet to live on, which isn't some obscene expectation, btw.
It's cause Paul send him a letter which was signed with his family ring, so emperor didn't care much about some homie muad'dib because spice were good, but when he understood that it's living Atreides who can talk shit about him then emperor got mad and flew to frick Harkonens in the ass long dick style
so,he goes into arrakis knowing well that it is a trap,validating to the great houses the claim that there is an atreides alive challenging the emperor.
the book plot is more solid.
The entirety of Harkonen forces is stupid because they regularly kill their own on a whim for no fricking reason. How do they even keep their forces moral/loyalty up or even have their numbers not dwindle from random killing?
In the book, Rabban is an unstable, talentless butthole. But Baron put him in charge for a reason - he's set up to fail, so, after Feyd, Baron's favorite, takes his place, people would be ecstatic to welcome him. Feyd is also much less of a psycho in the book and he has genuine following.
>You can't use a shield in the desert! >Why? >Because it would act like a beacon to all nearby worms! >Isn't that precisely the reason "thumpers" exist? >NO! A thumper would just attract one worm, a shield would attract ALL worms! >So? That's exactly the point, isn't it? >NO! Shields will also make those worms go insane! >What does that entail? What's the difference between a sane "murderous, 100% lethal dangerous worm" and an insane "murderous, 100% lethal dangerous worm???" >SHUT UP!
Like, seriously. Find a spice patch, fly some shield xx miles away and turn it on. Your harvester is totally safe since ALL the worms in some huge area is going to head straight for the shield and have an orgy; they won't give a single shit about the harvester anymore.
the part where they're standing on a frickhuge rock getting sniped and still refuse to shield is some high IQ "I hate dialogue because my dialogue is bad" writing
not to mention attracting worms in that instance would make their job easier
you're watching a movie about space wizards for kids it doesn't have to be good, kids are moronic remember?
[...]
I thought it was because of the eclipse and that the shields were solar-powered or something but its more hilarious to me to imagine that they just don't ever use shields on arrakis even when off the sand. like it's some programming law they physically cant disobey
don't forget they have levitation packs and still shit their pants the second a thumper is turned on
had they stayed 30 seconds longer they would kill the atridis and still have time to smoke a cigarette, take a piss, and get to the higher ground
(that they should have sent 1 guy to scout instead)
Apparently all humans, like Harkonnen and Sardaukar, are very well-behaved and totally won't break the rules of "no shielding!"
I thought it was because of the eclipse and that the shields were solar-powered or something but its more hilarious to me to imagine that they just don't ever use shields on arrakis even when off the sand. like it's some programming law they physically cant disobey
I actually despised how they did his character in dunc 2
Its not that i was expecting him to excel at anything but he got scolded by the baron
jobbed to the fremen
jobbed hard to elvis
jobbed hard to gurney
died
On the first one he seemed like he was gonna be a capable right hand for the baron and then....
I guess it sucks a bit more cuase i dont mind Batista as an actor, i still believe he had the single best joke in the guardians movies
yea the repetitiveness of him being ineffectual and getting his ass kicked was just as jarring as all the instances of one of them murdering a servant
really poor choices
So Paul's move is that when everyone else finds out that the emperor help the Harkonnens wipe out the Atreides they'll hate the emperor and frick him up.
But what about the Harkonnens, assuming they didn't get rekt on Arrakis. If the houses found out that the Harkonnens wiped out the Atreides wouldn't they flip out the same as they would with the emperor? It's not like it was a secret, they had Atreides prisoners on their planet in front of huge crowds. Why weren't the other houses immediately destroying the Harkonnens?
yeah,it doesnt make much sense.
harks and corrinos are the only ones with decent armies at that point and they have powerful allies.
and the great houses wouldnt ally themselves with desert scum anyways.
the possibilty of a civil war died when the atreides were destroyed.
but just turn your brain off.
>If the houses found out that the Harkonnens wiped out the Atreides wouldn't they flip out the same as they would with the emperor?
they already knew the Harkonens wiped out Atreides and they didn't give a shit. But for whatever reason, the Emperor being involved would make them mad in a way that's never explained.
>the Emperor being involved would make them mad in a way that's never explained.
I mean,they could try and start a rebellion against the emperor,but they dont have leto or his army anymore,and they dont like fremen either.
and the guild and the witches are fanatics of the emperor too.
>let's set up the entire army right in the middle of this valley where we can be easily attacked without any escape route >there's a storm coming that you say is going to take down our shields? lol frick off moron >no, I can't just tell the Harkonens over a video call or written message that Paul is still alive and to go after him, I have to tell them in person
>Le obviously evil dude kills his henchmen for no reason
Words can't describe how much I hate this fricking trope. Doesn't help that another Batista's character in Spectre did the exact same thing when he was introduced.
It can work as its usually not hard to replace someone in a position of power if there is an opportunity for success even at great risk. It weeds out the lazy and unambitious so you get desperate and hungry people of confident buttholes with elevated psychopathy score. You have to be selective over what you severely punish people for. If you punish for failure you get shielded from information and the organizational chain falls apart when your underlings create political fiefdoms to protect each other from you and selectively share communications.
Offer severe punishment for lying, withholding information or taking action on a set course without a well thought out plan with contingencies and it works.
>Le obviously evil dude kills his henchmen for no reason
and it happens like 5 times in the movie
I actually rolled my fricking eyes
People who use wrestling terms in conversations about anything but wrestling should be beheaded.
Jobber is an anime/manga term
Wrong, and also using anime terms or watching anime should also be grounds for a beheading.
>beheading
so easy to spot a sand-Black person
I'm white and you're an idiot. Enjoy your beheading.
post hand
I'll post entire body of you post hand and nose first, fatty.
Didn't ask. have a nice day fatty.
Stop samegayging and behead yourself fatty.
dear please redeem for sake of Allah
Listen you ignorant newbie sandBlack person, Cinemaphile(nel) was build upon anime and it’s culture. Best you remember that, you subhuman homosexual.
desu
Me senpai.
Frickin moron.
>Beheading people is a secularly Arab thing
Double frickin moron.
>his mind jumps to beheading when he thinks of killing
yes, you are a fricking sand-Black person. if not on the outside, then on the inside. c**t
pro wrestling term, although weeb anime and pro wrestling have a suspiciously beta overlap
have you ever asked yourself what the term “jobber” actually means?
its a pro-wrestling term for no-names who get put in the ring just to get beat on and lose because that’s their literal “job”
lurk fricking moar newbie
dude just shut up
no one fricking cares about who you think should be anything
Lol at this mark pretending to protect keyfabe. Don' work yourself into a shoot, brother.
Wrestling is gay and so are you. We will use wrestling terms with impunity and there is nothing you can do about it, gay boy.
I am going to spladle you so hard bro
Bring it on nemesis.
batista was a wrestler so it's fine
KWAB
Don't work yourself into a shoot brother.
>cucks himself out of acting gigs because he refuses to put over anyone in fight scenes
HumRit
SHUT THE FRICK UUUUUP
>this twink screams SILENCE in front of you
Unironically how do you respond without sounding mad?
HEY
cut it out
i'd probably respond with my own words instead of spewing the same shit that reddit frickstains like yourself keep posting here
fricking homosexual Black person
>may THY knife chip and shatter
no YOU silence!
THAT’S NO HOPE!
THEY'RE ACTION FIGURES, MOM!
the whole movie was just the bad guys losing every encounter. There was zero threat emanating from the Harkonnen
Paul is the Bad Guy. You lack heckin media indoctrination.
>rejects the black girl
>becomes the bad guy
Jesus Christ, fricking Hollywood
>takes the throne
>just tells the white woman she's his property now
Literally 90% of woman-written erotica
We muh GOLDEN PATH BROS at???
We're busy executing Duncan gholas until we find the perfect one
Duncan bros really got fricked over for like 1000s of years.
Some did alright
Is this Bryan's shit? I don't remember this with Frank.
>Is this Bryan's shit?
Frick, no, its from The Dune Encyclopedia
Well frank didn't work on that, as far as I know. I'm not gonna count it. To me it's just fanfic.
the only part of the shitty films faithful to the book is Rabban jobbing
Wasn't the Harkonnen plan to bring in Feyd as a prettyboy savior who overthrows the heel Rabban?
Did he scream at a group of mentats for not having the southern hemisphere of Arrakis detailed on the globe, followed by killing an officer who tried to patronize him (someone known for randomly killing people)?
>bad guys aren't intimidating
>good guys aren't likable
what's the point of YAslop if you can't even get these two things right?
>good guys aren't likable
Gurney is. Stilgar is. That's about it.
Jason Iowa was
what's the point of hiring big name actors if none of them gives good performance?
this was embarrassing for everyone involved they either sleepwalked through their shit dialogue or went full meme moronation
bravo nolan
RATS!
>"rats" by devendra banhart starts playing
BRAVO PENIS
Saw this homosexual in the trailer and thought ‘frick me Guardians of the Galaxy 4 took a dark turn’
>the Fremen specialize in ground combat and their anti-air is limited to MANPADS that can't penetrate shields
>let's constantly engage them in hand-to-hand combat instead of just carpet bombing them
kind of hilarious how the only person to figure this out was the supposedly insane and most unhinged bad guy
Dennis couldn't keep his story straight. Even the characters were confused. Feyd defeats the fremen and restores spice production. The threatened spice harvests were the reason for the Emperor's intercession on Arrakis in the book. In the movie, the Emperor actually gives no reason for showing up, none at all. He just starts demanding answers about the southern regions, inconsequential matters! Everyone is just standing around confused.
the Emperor goes because Paul is still alive and views him as a threat. It doesn't explain why he set up his entire army in the middle of an obvious ambush spot and for no reason ignored the warning about the storm that would frick with their shields
>In the movie, the Emperor actually gives no reason for showing up, none at all.
Pesky Paul send him mean letter where he said that he will blowup spices with atomic bombs and snitch to big houses that emperor is secretly a homosexual who ordered destruction of house of atreides.
>I'm going to use atomic weapons, which are banned and universally loathed to the point that anybody who uses them gets attacked by every house, to blow up the one resource everybody needs
>but somehow telling the houses the emperor killed my dad is enough to make up for all this
how do you not call this bluff?
>ok yeah guys so we blew up the crazed prophet who had nothing to lose
>see he decided to blow up the spice when we opened fire since again, nothing to lose
>civilization will end in 6 months when we run out of reserves
>We can't because Paul might die.
"Paul" doesn't seem to be the reason of fear AT ALL. The chance that an anti-spice-nuke domino effect is the fear... and that doesn't require Paul. All it takes is the bomb going off, and a falling pigeon could set that off. In fact, Paul's son could do it. Or Paul's aides could do it. Or Chani could do it. Or Jessica could do it. Or some random insane Fremen could do it. Or Feyd could do it: he's "got nothing to lose" either!
Both Paul and Feyd could threaten "obey me or I'll blow up spice forever" at the same time since they are both equally capable and equally motivated and equally fearless of the outcome. It's not a "standoff" at all and now the entire universe cannot comply with both at the same time.
>Nuh uh
Yeah huh.
And for Paul, a messianic prophet claiming to be making decisions for the good of mankind is CLEARLY bluffing since he's threatening to "kill all of mankind."
Also, frick how useful the spice is: it's apparently so valuable that 99.9% of humans don't have enough worth to trade anything for even a taste of spice, so NO ONE is using it except the top 5 people of the highest tier houses and, oh yeah, Navigators who bathe in it. Aside from a "loss of space travel," I really, really, really, really, really don't see the harm to basically ANY human who suddenly becomes deprived of it. It's literally only a threat to the most extreme upper classes. Better hope you chose a nice planet to live on, which isn't some obscene expectation, btw.
It's cause Paul send him a letter which was signed with his family ring, so emperor didn't care much about some homie muad'dib because spice were good, but when he understood that it's living Atreides who can talk shit about him then emperor got mad and flew to frick Harkonens in the ass long dick style
so,he goes into arrakis knowing well that it is a trap,validating to the great houses the claim that there is an atreides alive challenging the emperor.
the book plot is more solid.
>Anon somehow misses the most obvious plot details
>Literally THE most spoonfed bit
>"Dennis couldn't keep his story straight"
Bless you Cinemaphile
>instead of just carpet bombing them
They were having trouble locating the fremen who were obviously using guerilla tactics
Feyd found them pretty quickly
Feyd saw it in a dream, he's a lil bit psychic
Harkonnen heavy casualties
Just letting everyone know in this thread that Kevin Nash was r*ped.
Roped to do what?
Why didn’t Feyd save his uncle Vladimir from getting stabbed by Muad’dib?
Feud was gonna kill the fat man anyway, he let paul do it in the movie but it was alia in the book.
why would he? He's le psychopath
this isnt book's Feyd,in this movie he is smarter and a better commander than the baron,so whynot.
it is coherent with the logic of the movie.
The entirety of Harkonen forces is stupid because they regularly kill their own on a whim for no fricking reason. How do they even keep their forces moral/loyalty up or even have their numbers not dwindle from random killing?
In the book, Rabban is an unstable, talentless butthole. But Baron put him in charge for a reason - he's set up to fail, so, after Feyd, Baron's favorite, takes his place, people would be ecstatic to welcome him. Feyd is also much less of a psycho in the book and he has genuine following.
Go frick yourself you dumb ignorant crossdressing insolent troony subhuman frick!
>You can't use a shield in the desert!
>Why?
>Because it would act like a beacon to all nearby worms!
>Isn't that precisely the reason "thumpers" exist?
>NO! A thumper would just attract one worm, a shield would attract ALL worms!
>So? That's exactly the point, isn't it?
>NO! Shields will also make those worms go insane!
>What does that entail? What's the difference between a sane "murderous, 100% lethal dangerous worm" and an insane "murderous, 100% lethal dangerous worm???"
>SHUT UP!
Like, seriously. Find a spice patch, fly some shield xx miles away and turn it on. Your harvester is totally safe since ALL the worms in some huge area is going to head straight for the shield and have an orgy; they won't give a single shit about the harvester anymore.
who are you quoting?
the part where they're standing on a frickhuge rock getting sniped and still refuse to shield is some high IQ "I hate dialogue because my dialogue is bad" writing
not to mention attracting worms in that instance would make their job easier
Apparently all humans, like Harkonnen and Sardaukar, are very well-behaved and totally won't break the rules of "no shielding!"
Can't have logic in a fantasy film, after all. Gotta have convenient "because" writing.
you're watching a movie about space wizards for kids it doesn't have to be good, kids are moronic remember?
don't forget they have levitation packs and still shit their pants the second a thumper is turned on
had they stayed 30 seconds longer they would kill the atridis and still have time to smoke a cigarette, take a piss, and get to the higher ground
(that they should have sent 1 guy to scout instead)
I thought it was because of the eclipse and that the shields were solar-powered or something but its more hilarious to me to imagine that they just don't ever use shields on arrakis even when off the sand. like it's some programming law they physically cant disobey
Dunehumans are super quick to tweet "no fair!" and that's just awful, that's worse than the end of humanity.
>shield + laser = atomic explosion
how?
magnets
both shields and their lasers use the same "(some israeli name) principle" technology and interaction can cause nuclear fission
fricking magnets HOW DO THEY WORK
Same reason worm vomit = see the future and past
I actually despised how they did his character in dunc 2
Its not that i was expecting him to excel at anything but he got scolded by the baron
jobbed to the fremen
jobbed hard to elvis
jobbed hard to gurney
died
On the first one he seemed like he was gonna be a capable right hand for the baron and then....
I guess it sucks a bit more cuase i dont mind Batista as an actor, i still believe he had the single best joke in the guardians movies
yea the repetitiveness of him being ineffectual and getting his ass kicked was just as jarring as all the instances of one of them murdering a servant
really poor choices
>he seemed like he was gonna be a capable right hand
Yeah. Cue Dunc 2 and the guy's only victims were his own dudes.
>this house of psychopaths who slaughtered another house follow the rules of war
sloppy, shitty writing
Drax?
So Paul's move is that when everyone else finds out that the emperor help the Harkonnens wipe out the Atreides they'll hate the emperor and frick him up.
But what about the Harkonnens, assuming they didn't get rekt on Arrakis. If the houses found out that the Harkonnens wiped out the Atreides wouldn't they flip out the same as they would with the emperor? It's not like it was a secret, they had Atreides prisoners on their planet in front of huge crowds. Why weren't the other houses immediately destroying the Harkonnens?
yeah,it doesnt make much sense.
harks and corrinos are the only ones with decent armies at that point and they have powerful allies.
and the great houses wouldnt ally themselves with desert scum anyways.
the possibilty of a civil war died when the atreides were destroyed.
but just turn your brain off.
>If the houses found out that the Harkonnens wiped out the Atreides wouldn't they flip out the same as they would with the emperor?
they already knew the Harkonens wiped out Atreides and they didn't give a shit. But for whatever reason, the Emperor being involved would make them mad in a way that's never explained.
>the Emperor being involved would make them mad in a way that's never explained.
I mean,they could try and start a rebellion against the emperor,but they dont have leto or his army anymore,and they dont like fremen either.
and the guild and the witches are fanatics of the emperor too.
Where are Rocket and Groot?
>the nukes allow paul to attack the emperor
why didn't he just put a little personal shied unit near the meeting and snipe that?
The laser-shield explosion was unpredictable. It could be the size of a grenade or the size of a nuke
Why not just making worm farms to get infinite spice? Besides worms that makes spice are aliens.
>let's set up the entire army right in the middle of this valley where we can be easily attacked without any escape route
>there's a storm coming that you say is going to take down our shields? lol frick off moron
>no, I can't just tell the Harkonens over a video call or written message that Paul is still alive and to go after him, I have to tell them in person
Need a webm of Bautista running geriatrically away from the RATS! Funniest thing since The Irishman
All the villains in Part 2 jobbed.
didn't he get outjobbed by his cousin? The entire harkonnen arc was about jobbing for tha athreide lmao
*trump*
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATS