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His whiteness. To call him a well off white man would be a backwards compliment, and to call him poor would be to give him a compliment. So, middle class it is.
This is kinda ironic from a Chinese character.
Immortal Hulk sure got stupid when it tried to be political instead of a horror story.
*korean
Amadeus cho
So he’s a homosexual then? Wtf
>Amadeus Cho
They massacred my boy!
Korea got hit with westernization harder than Japan. Jesus Christ.
It is indeed sad to see one of the best Marvel series in years dragged down by hackneyed political commentary.
I loved the first half but people really seemed to let a lot of tonal shift and subject change pass just because they liked what happened up till that point.
Devil Hulk goes from being a horrible antagonizing butthole to even friends and loved ones (Jen, Cliff, Clint) to acting like he was a saint with more emotional capacity than banner himself (Betty, McGowan). I could tolerate him guiding Jacqueline around in the first half because he was literally escorting her through his personal hell, but after a while he stopped feeling like a monster who wanted to protect Bruce, and more like a Ewing's personal wishes given power. Ending the world went from being quite literal and striking fear into Thor, to just being anti-corporation. He went from being the most terrifying Hulk personality (which he was supposed to be even before this run) to being the most tame, reasonable one.
Did you forget that he was going to destroy the world?
Did I forget the thing I addressed directly in my post?
Is that monstrosity supposed to be a female or is hulk a homosexual now?
He flees from the army like all the middle class normie.
It's definitely what he was before the bomb test. Applying class to a lot of superheroes with weird living situations is awkward, though. Is Hal Jordan middle class? Probably, but that motherfricker is also far too busy off in space the majority of the time to get classified as such. Bruce doesn't really have much money to his name but he didn't grow up in poverty, just abuse. I guess you could refer to him as lower class but he often ends up living pretty decently when Hulk is more cooperative with the larger superhero community.
For most heroes their civilian life is an afterthought anyway, it's like complaining a firefighter isn't a poorgay on foodstamps on top of sacrificing his life in 24 hour shifts except for no pay. It's like they wanted to criticize Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark who are billionaires but all they had was Bruce Banner.
Most firefighters are poorgays and only survive working two jobs.
t. Firefighter
At that point in the story Bruce was a wanted man and had been living homeless for months stealing all the money he had to his name. He's straight up lumpenproletariat.
>Is Hal Jordan middle class? Probably, but that motherfricker is also far too busy off in space the majority of the time to get classified as such.
I vividly remember there's a page where he needs to ask some non-superhero woman if she will co-sign a lease for him because - I think it was for a car - they would let him on his own.
What kind of middle-class white guy gets turned down for a lease on a car?
>Is Hal Jordan middle class? Probably,
He doesn't even have a car let alone a house
Rejected JoJolion character.
>Hulk is all woke propaganda now
>the scene at the end where Joe is telling her about how his father figure got killed because of him and she just goes "w-well you also killed my father remember? I'm the victim here hurr"
God what a spiteful piece of shit. Gets away scott free too. If she at least got turned into a gamma monster all this characterization would have made sense.
>If she at least got turned into a gamma monster all this characterization would have made sense.
but that what she wanted though, her just getting third eye spirt world vision is her comeuppance, she can pretty much only observe never affect what going on.
I guess you could see it that way but imo it'd have been much better to actually grant her her wish and make her turn into an abobination, only for her to finally understand that it's not cool to be the Hulk.
At least that's what I thought the character was gonna be about at the start, but between every character in the book treating her like the second coming of Jesus and her getting quite benign radiation powers that literally save the day in the final fight it's clear that she's just a Mary Sue.
>her just getting third eye spirt world vision is her comeuppance
That's still getting off easy. She should've mutated into a deformed gamma freak. I am talking full-on cancerous blob of flesh here.
Glad someone agrees. It's especially egregious because her introduction and her motives run parallel to Dr. Frye and his son's.
You genuinely believe she deserved to he turned into a cancerous blob of gamma irradiated flesh for daring to talk shit to the Hulk?
She should have faced consequences for willingly spending all of her free time around the fricking Hulk. Rick eternally suffers for always standing by Bruce.
He's a man who has a rare condition that causes him to periodically lose control and destroy things against his will (among the many, many other horrific things he's gone through over the gamma shit) but still struggles constantly to atone whenever he can, minimize damage when he can't, and give as much back to the world as possible. She sees this man get treated with the most basic amount of compassion (prison planet) which they only agreed to because they already knew killing him wasn't a realistic option and she's JEALOUS about it? Yeah, I think that's good dramatic irony. If she thinks the Hulk has it so good, give her a macrodose and let her walk around destroying her home and family with no way to stop it for a bit.
She did, she now sees unrelenting horrors in her day to day life that she can't stop seeing. All because her childhood got ruined by the Hulk and she wanted to track him down because of it. She even helped him despite the shit that happened to her.
Rick also faces consequences but you have to realize he took a far bigger part in Hulk's life willingly (specifically because Bruce Banner saved his fricking life after he decided to break into a NUCLEAR TEST SITE), then kept associating with a bunch of different superheroes over and over again. Rick has run the fricking gamut of suffering AND genuine happiness for doing what he does.
I think a faustian bargain would be a nice endpoint for the character who's willing to do anything to get Hulk powers to reach, yes.
Oh you mean like exactly what happened to her at the end of the run?
Like I said, that's a slap on the wrist at most. She never learned her lesson and she was already traumatized by her father's death so she's not any worse than at the start of the run.
Oh wow a slap on the wrist punishment for doing literally nothing wrong except lecture a man who's suffering? Also, love the reasoning here
>she was already traumatized by her father's death so she's not any worse than at the start of the run.
"Oh gee I was already traumatized by my father's death so I guess having unending nightmare vision that I can't turn off is basically more of the status quo, right?"
Why exactly is getting lectured by a minority the worst crime possible to do to a white man?
Nta but her lecture is stupid and doesn't make sense. You need zero justification to hate that kind of hamfisted political commentary other than it's existence in something like a superhero comic.
God imagine that, a character saying something you don't necessarily agree with. I wonder if she changes her opinion at all over the course of the run.
Alternatively, maybe you could stop deluding yourself into thinking every opinion expressed by a character is the author trying to shove their morals down your throat.
I don't think every opinion an author writes is there, but a modern day cake shit writer definitely believes the garbage they make characters say. Also don't care what her character goes through. The actual line and delivery is bad
So basically you've settled on a delusion and refuse to entertain other possibilities.
Also, no it wasn't, it was a well written line as was all of the dialogue in that arc.
No I've considered the possibilities and based on the industry for the last six years I genuinely believe these writers hold these opinions to some degree. They aren't interested in actually exploring politics. Just parroting Twitter talking points.
>This whole arc had great dialogue
It's really not a good run, but okay
It really is! Great dialogue, great pacing, super interesting conceptually, it's clearly going to be influencing future Hulk runs for a while.
You know, anon. I'm glad you like it. Rock on!
What's going on here?
>So basically you've settled on a delusion and refuse to entertain other possibilities.
>Also, no it wasn't, it was a well written line as was all of the dialogue in that arc.
>literally nothing wrong
She actively seeks to get gamma radiation in her, it's a constant theme throughout the series how fricked up everyone who does gets but she gets a free pass.
>I wonder if she changes her opinion at all over the course of the run.
The last thing she does is telling to shut up about his dead dad because her dead dad is more important, so no she doesn't really change much.
I mean it's clear to me that she was supposed to go down that way but she became the writer's pet so he coddled her inmensely
and the end of the story she regrets the way she thought about the hulk if you actually read the story
No she doesn't why are you lying?
Yeah and after that panel she continues to be as insufferable as before
This is as badly written as the socio-political stuff.
IH sucked, but Jurgens is kind of ass too.
The last good superhero comic was Morrison's Multiversity, mostly Pax Americana.
>This is as badly written as the socio-political stuff.
why
It gives a feeling of being talked at. It's a heavy subject delivered with zero punch. Like really bad tv writing (and acting, and editing). It could be more that the medium is not being utilized properly, but a lot of modern comics feel this way.
>da ebil whyte peepo
Why are nigs so obsessed with us? What would they even do if we didn't exist?
She's fricked for life.
She wished for hulk power got them. and lost everything. She's lost her job, most of the people she knows are dead, and now ghosts hate her.
When was this published? Because if it was during one of the many BLM riots that would be so funny
2018
Remember the one where Batman attacks the store owners shooting arsonists, and when they squawk he literally says that it's fine because insurance will cover their shops?
Whats insane is this never happened, only something vaguely similar, but the chain of kneejerk outrage spiralled until you fully believe something that was never published.
Less then a minute google search
>Batman needs to spend the entire night stopping poor people from stealing TVs from one store during a blackout , otherwise it’s bad writing!
>stopping poor people
>poor people
Just say you support rioting outright, you distinguous motherfricker.
Oh right, I forgot rich people go loot stores during blackouts
He's Batman. He would at least have some gadgets and crowd control methods that he could use on them. Wouldn't even take him long. That writer is just shoehorning in a political statement
They shot him into space because he has been shot. A lot. By fricking TANKS. He is immune to being shot.
He looks hideous, like a mix of the grinch and a zombie
>I'll be watching you, dude
Literally who does this b***h think she is?
I'm curious if this is actually an anti-revolutionary statement or if it's just a muddled thought from the creator. Because I do agree that revolutions almost never work out.
I really feel like Armadeus was just talking out of his ass this time.
What revolutions is this character referencing? I cannot think of any that were lead by the middle-class. Middle-class tends to be content with the status quo. It's always either the poor, or rich ideologues.
I mean, there's the French and American revolutions. Poors rarely have enough power, resources, or class conscious to actually band together and rebel. Rich people are the ones actually always content, they sit on the top of the shit pile.
Both of those were fought by poorgays, anon. They were called the peasantry back then.
>Rich people are the ones actually always content
All the commie revolutions are perpetrated by "intellectuals" from well-off families.
>All the commie revolutions are perpetrated by "intellectuals" from well-off families.
Ehhhhhhh
That's a pretty egregious oversimplification
I wanted Bruce to cave this chink’s fricking head in so badly in this issue. Who the frick did he think he was talking to! What the frick did he think he was going to be able to do if Bruce actually decided to do something?
Top 3 worst moment in the entire run alongside Joe Fixit congratulating the reporter for making the transphobe chuds seethe on twitter, and that weird flashback from the troon doctor where Daredevil busts an illegal troony hormone production operation and the comic tries to say he’s le bad for it
I actually liked the troony stuff because it involuntarily shows how far up his own ass he is
>it's fine if I'm providing Kingpin his drugs to distribute all over the country because I'm getting people addicted to HRT instead of crack
Like that's obviously not the way Ewing planned that scene to be read like but it's still what's happening.
I took it as her being happy that she found some stability in her life
I don't remember her even being resentful of daredevil doing his job,
she was just sad that she had to start over again.
Absolutely incredible lack of reading comprehension emanating from this post
Based autist unable to sense when a person is threatening another person
>What about bruce banner is middle class?
The man was on the run homeless since hid first apperance
YOURE JUST A MIDDLE CLASS SOCIALIST BRAT
Scientists and doctors are middle class. Everyone in the world place themselves in a class level above where they actually are.
This comic was like Moore’s Swamp Thing but if Constantine kept calling Holland a mayo ass white boy and that Swampie needs to expand his mind beyond the white patriarchy
I'll keep saying it, theirs nowhere left for Bruce but up. He needs a new sexy phase where he's good with Hulk and they operate as a seamless system just like Jen and Shulkie.
>but that already happened!
Yeah 30 years ago, times have changed and we're actually ready for a sexy confident Bruce/Hulk this time.
>tfw just read #1 of the new run
>*sigh* somehow hulk vs banner returned
It’s more of an outright horror book than Immortal was which was good. But damn i want those homies to be friends.
>its okay to mock white people for their race, but not other races
No, dumbass, it's just you don't get cancelled for calling someone a cracker or saying that all white people should stop having kids.
>No, dumbass, I'm actually a very sensitive snowflake and CAN'T handle the bants.
ok
Black fragility and denial.
Ok, Jamal.
You won't do shit.
Americans lost all sense of community and only vote for "Red or Blue" political party because they're "supposed to".
Also the MCU and Spiderverse rocks while Marvel comics manage to be shittier DC ones somehow in terms of writing
>because they're "supposed to"
Yeah I was totally brainwashed into siding against the Dems by the internet and not because I witness their moronic decisions and disastrous consequences firsthand
t. Chicago native
>i dont understand why this is, nor will make an effort to understand
Explain why it's okay then
>mocks whites
>nobody cares
>says the letter n
>your city burn
as simple as
It's okay to be white.
'being White' isnt a skin color, its a power structure invented by white people with themselves at the top. That's why it's not okay to be white, because whiteness is synonymous with oppression, and wouldn't exist without it. We'd just be English, Irish, polish, southern American, northern American, etc etc
How would you respond to a racist telling a black person that it's not okay to be black?
Black person
Shalom
Yeah immortal hulk sucked. The only good superhero comics from the last couple of years is Dan Jurgens Blue and Gold Minin
shit taste
No, Al. Immortal is trash.
Anon, you can't farm outrage forever.
Immortal will be remembered for years. After you are dead, people will still say Immortal was good.
You can say this is your last post on Cinemaphile if that makes you feel better.
>Melodramatic response to comic book discourse
Immortal Hulk already isn't aging well. Will be looked at more like O'Neils GA/GL run
But that was good too
>Will be looked at more like O'Neils GA/GL run
So a classic run.
No. A run that was popular on top ten list and shit like that, but is actually not very fun or interesting and is more notably for it's hackjob attempts at social commentary. If you think the O'Neil GA/GL run is still some classic you don't read capeshit.
why would you ever read american comics in 2023
>Korean lecturing people about Revolution.
Since when is Amadeus a North Korea stan?
This is one of those cape series that only people that like the character before they start reading will ever find good. Since I didn't like Hulk before, I never liked Immortal Hulk.
Actually I didn't like the Hulk but I do now thanks to this. Although I do agree with
in that it goes off the rails on the second half.
I've read Hulk comics before and didn't like them much, or the idea of the Hulk. I thought this would turn me around, but I disliked it after reading the first issue and from then on until I gave up.
Personally I only had the image of Hulk cultural osmosis provides, so I was never really interested in him. It's a bit like my situation with Flash (since I'm more of a DC guy) in that I have nothing against them but they feel a bit too standard capeshit for me.
So when it started going for the horror route I was pleasantly surprised. Reminded me a bit of Moore's Swamp Thing (not as good of course)
Why does he look like a background character from Jojolion