What age did you grow out of Gundam and into Five Star Stories?
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What age did you grow out of Gundam and into Five Star Stories?
What age did you grow out of Gundam and into Five Star Stories?
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>What age did you grow out of Gundam
After my first one
Cope.
FSS is so bad. It's like Nagano doesn't understand what made L-Gaim good.
When I realized that snapkits were for children
>what made L-Gaim good
What?
I too would think something was a novel if all I read of it was a wiki page.
Is the Bangdoll on the left the Volks plastic kit?
Workshop Cast resin. You can tell because it actually has a good sculpt.
about a year ago
l-gaim IS good though. tomino and nagano make an excellent team and complement each other greatly. that's what happens when you get two genius friends working together
We need another L-Gaim installment.
FSS designs are so fricking beautiful
Wouldn't the recoil alone blow it on its ass?
The exhaust apparently helps counteract the recoil to an extent, but it still does get launched a few meters.
Largest barrel I've seen in manga. Is a Buster Launcher a Casaba Howitzer or a railgun?
Both
Bitch, I've been reading FSS since Mangatraders was still in its early days. I've had the same complaints for years.
>reading books
No thanks
This. FSS has too many words per page. It's practically a novel
If I wanted to read walls of text on a page, then I'd read a proper intellectual SF novel and not a manga. Nagano doesn't understand the "show" part of "show don't tell."
Actually just started reading it, finished part 1 of v04 (american v09) a few days ago. Was pretty excited for it after L-Gaim, kinda hyped myself up a bit too much though in retrospect. Gorgeous artwork, great characters, and amazing attention to detail. On the other hand, it feels like he goes into that autistic headcanon super-story telling a bit too hard. Rather, I'm happy he has an outline for all the events he intends the story to have, but "As the planet is destroyed, the immortal god emperor of light is ejected from his mech entirely made of gold - however his android wife and the mech are thrown through time and space. They'll travel thousands of years before reuniting in the year 7776" sounds hella chuuni on paper. Similarly while some names are generically fantasy/sci-fi and are fine, ×bin (pronounced Crossbin) and that pseudo-Cleopatra with the sneeze name are eye-rolling.
My biggest issue with it currently is it feels a bit too much like this guy said in the sense of too much tell, not enough show. I get the sense of this vast multi-generational pantheon of heroes and characters, all of them seeming interesting, but it feels a bit too brusque with depictions of them. Even if it was just meant to be buildup, the war with Hagooda felt too brief for me to care about Ulicul and Colus; there's a page later after the L-Gaim sneak peek that has Clotho looking back on them & others around that timeframe, but...we barely knew them. I have no emotional connection to them for it to work (picrel). I need more time with these people to enjoy them more. I want more content. I love what I've gotten, I just need more.
Keep in mind I'm only just into Kastenpo with the attack on the village, so these "issues" may be fixed going forward, but even knowing he's ongoing...with only 17 volumes so far it's either going to continue to be too fast-paced, snopshot style for my taste, or he's going to die before the story goes anywhere.
And to clarify, I'm 100% down for the chuuni shit. It's more just that it feels like he's jumping the gun with it . Once (if) I see it in action it'll be completely fine. I dig almost everything about TFSS, I just want some refinement. On that note, one (editor-related, not author) aspect that could be improved is a proper dramatis personae. We've got a lot of names and characters running around, and with how outlandish the names are at times something to help us keep them sorted in our heads would be vastly appreciated. I know the "starring in this chapter" thing at the start of each part does something similar, but only for new characters (and also, again, I'd very much appreciate if he'd tone down the "this is X, the dude who's yada yada, blada blada of the such and such empire [fine so far]. As you can see, his brash personality will lead to his demise this chapter after instigating a fight with Y [this is not fine, why do you need to spoil every arc by describing it before I see it, Nagano? Put this at the end of the arc, not before]"
The English version was bundled random parts of the artbooks with all the extra bios and details which are all supplementary. So those extra events mentioned are basically like Gundam MSV and don't really matter to the actual events of the manga. Most of the shit on the timeline never happens in the manga and the only reason it's there is because Nagano transplated it over from the L-Gaim mook that all of FSS is based on.
where can you find scans of the manga?
https://nyaa.si/view/138295
more up-to-date/HQ scans are here by the man himself: https://archiveofsins.com/t/thread/1149169/#q1149227 ; I haven't updated the museum with it yet since I'm dead.
I've since progressed to mid-v07 (Auge-Apache just happened) and Kastenpo onwards has been much more my speed and felt more like a traditional story. Thus far I certainly wouldn't describe it as a "multi-protagonist anthology of loosely-tied stories that take place in the same universe" as the one anon did; the stories are much more tightly connected than that implies, and it's more ensemble with each arc having specific MCs from said cast. Calling it an anthology gives off the wrong impression - even as time-skippy & brief as it felt in the first few I still wouldn't have described it like that.
I'd probably describe the first few volumes as Nagano figuring out his stride. Which is fine, I just wish it hadn't been stuff as pivotal narratively as Clotho & Colus (which honestly is the only problem in the first three; the Debut arc is fine, and the flashforward sneakpeek to Daba/L-Gaim is fine too as a teaser, the Hagooda arc just needed to be lengthier I think). I'd probably say the biggest weakness it has right now is still cast presence: the coup attempt was cool, but every character involved, sans 2 or 3, was introduced IN the arc, which takes away a lot of weight from the attempt. "WOAH, these two are fetishistic psychos who are only barely on a leash and are now rampaging because master's gone" would've been much cooler if we'd already had pagetime with them earlier to build up to the betrayal. Ting vs. Aisha was cooler precisely because of that.
Now that you point it out, I see what you're saying. What's also strange is my JPN scans also have most of that content; I'm wondering if they're reissues or just muxes.
>timeline never happens in the manga
Sorta my point. I dig he has it laid out, but I want to SEE it, not have cliff notes. Otherwise feels autistic.
>more up-to-date/HQ scans
thx anon
> these two are fetishistic psychos who are only barely on a leash and are now rampaging because master's gone
Daily reminder that Spark decided she wanted Decor's baby.
>I haven't updated the museum with it yet since I'm dead.
Well no worries, because the torrent appears to be dead as well.
Still really dismayed that Archive-Scans' blogpost got taken down somehow. Their Amazon Drive account appears to be up, though; doesn't have a torrent for the new scans unfortunately.
wait there's this
https://twitter.com/shininghubee/status/1690792865314623488
https://archive.org/details/fivestarstroriesnewscans
I knew I was hallucinating could've sworn someone posted high res RAWs not too long ago; and there they are
also found what looks to be an working torrent of Archive-Scans' new scans of the incomplete US release
https://btdig.com/696b9e2ed3e5cb0173f833c3f3394988c64581c7/the-five-star-stories
Is there a download for Vol 17 anywhere? I've tried the archive here but its just Vol 16 labeled as 17.
I downloaded from there and seems like vol 16 and 17 folders got swapped. They're both there just with each other's numbers.
I love how FSS is an anthology, it makes the work feel so much more epic and mythological. I realized it's not really a story, so you really shouldn't read it like one. It's more like a fictional historical account, or like a Bible for a religion that doesn't exist.
L-Gaim was basically like the 1.0 version of FSS, I don't think they're explicitly connected, but it is hinted that a version of L-Gaim's story happens in FSS' universe.
>this
>proceeds to complain about something that's distinctly a Tomino'ism mainstay
Like groomer, like groomee turns out
I grew into L-Gaim actually.
Did Lachesis fight for the commies or nazis?
She's a good person so obviously the commies.
>Division Nordlantic
Uh...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11th_SS_Volunteer_Panzergrenadier_Division_Nordland
What did Nagano mean by this?
That he wanted people to write "BASED" in the future
I like both
Whats this about? I’ve seen the artwork a lot. Anyone want to give me a qrd or should I just google it and check it out?
It's a multi-protagonist anthology of loosely-tied stories that take place in the same universe that features some robots every once in a while. Also untranslated after volume 10.
Thanks, also this sounds pretty neat.
The movie is fun too but makes sense only after reading the first volume which it adapts.
You should frick off.
>Assuming all questions have a binary answer.
Concerned_Lachesis.jpeg
How did /m/ react to the news in 1987?
I tried to find this on Youtube but no luck. Anyone know if it is online to watch somewhere?
I never knew L-gaim was connected to this.
For the longest time, I had no idea what this was, I only know it because Newtype magazine used to (still does?) contain pages of the manga of this.
Gothicmade isn't real
English subs WHEN
It is very curious how every mecha designer, artist, or talented person in the anime industry thinks FSS is a masterpiece. But consoomer Gundumb manchildren here hate it.
it's not really that weird, they just haven't developed taste yet. gundam as a franchise, including the mecha designs (apart from the brief experimental period they had with zeta/zz), is designed to have mass appeal and be accessible to everyone. it works as a great entryway into the 'genre'. fss has great elaborate designs, but they aren't really mass appeal and 'accessible' so while they appeal to seasoned mecha fans and people in the industry they can be a bit offputting to people new to mecha stuff.
i followed a similar trajectory myself, gundam basically got me into mecha then over time i started liking more elaborate and 'weird' designs. when i was newer to mecha i really didn't like fss designs, then i started seeing how good mortarheadds actually were but didn't get gtms, and now i love gtms as well and think a lot of gundam designs except the more obscure zeta era and late uc designs are kind of boring (inlcuding some i used to love)
basically, you need a high iq to understand fss and pickle rick
>fss has great elaborate designs, but they aren't really mass appeal and 'accessible' so while they appeal to seasoned mecha fans and people in the industry they can be a bit offputting to people new to mecha stuff
Only the GTMs. Everyone I've shown the classic MH designs to was blown away, even if they don't care for mecha (or even knew what it was) they were very impressed with them as statues or whatever they thought it was
>Everyone I've shown the classic MH designs to was blown away
You haven't been here for very long.
>2014
Jesus, it's been that long? I was in that thread, I think I called him a homosexual.
that GM is covered in poo poo 🙁
i'm split between the Bang Doll and the KOG for the most beautiful MH. the Bang Doll looks better but the KOG's entire existence is so romantic that i cant help but love it more... as for the UGLIEST? probably the Zakker or the A-Toll Scritti, both very orange and very poorly named. i especially dislike the Scritti's lack of heels, a good set of heels is as important as the skirt and shoulder plates. no hells on a MH is like no nipples on a woman.
Damn man I ain't reading all that but my condolences on the virginity.
>every mecha designer, artist, or talented person in the anime industry thinks FSS is a masterpiece
>every
You went to every one of these people and asked them? Doubt it.
It's always a red flag for bullshit when people use terms like "every" when speaking for other peoples opinions.
enough to notice that is it a mana source for a fair few artists. if you ever go to Japan youll also see FSS stuff in all the hardcore hobby shops and otaku caves. I havent investigated FSS myself, but as an outsider I know its something Ill need to look into eventually.
It is depressing that the board is more often relying on bait threads. This board is slow you don't need to do this to have a 5 star thread
Nagano is very quiet, but very powerful
dark horse needs to reliscense the manga and republish it in those big volumes like berserk
the art books too. both fss and gothicmade
I don't buy many manga, but I would snatch these up in an instant. I already have all the Jap volumes except the newest
Is there an up to date gallery with all the GTM designs so far?
i stopped reading it cuz i couldnt keep track of all the names
i'd go back to it but i'd need a wiki to refer to to remember who everyone is and where in the timeline things are happening
Post the image of Nagano wearing Sailor Moon cosplay. This kills the 5 star gay.
I wanna get into FSS but it reeks of troony shit and I think I understand why now.
>muh trannies
they're just having fun, frick off
But his stories are full of boys that look like girls, it's so off putting and hard to take seriously.
>full of boys that look like girls
List them all, homosexual. We both know you've never actually read it.
Amaterasu is supposed to be a man
Gods can be any gender they choose.
Denial is the first stage of grief anon
nagano definitely would have been a troony if he was born 40 years later
bro ladios sopp pretends to be a girl sometimes and is so twinky that he gets molested by men
>b-but one character
Yeah, thought so.
Why is the official english translation so bad? I think reading the original Japanese with an AI translation would genuinely be a better experience.
Early-mid 2000s was a different time; halfassed translations and dubbing was pretty common on Japanese IPs back then. Toyspress was no different. I just hope a scanlation group will pick up it soon, given the new RAWs that dropped last month.
Nagano personally supervised the English translation, everything you see is how he wanted it, including the weird punctuation and formatting
i think hes just covering for hiring the cheapest non-native speaker of english he could find lmao. i worked in ENG to JPN translation, and the customer would always have some bullshit like"it needs more paragraphs" and have each sentence be its own paragraph or some other nonsense
the english translation being garbage and half of it only being available in japanese in the first place is what pushed me to start actually learning japanese after a decade of "yeah i want to learn it, at some point". yeah it's gonna take a couple of years to get to a point where i can read it but at the rate things are going it still won't be translated by then anyway
I always liked Five Star Stories but it is more of an artifice than a product to me. I'm not gonna stumble over myself explaining why, but the movie was good... although I can't beyond there being Headliners, AFs, and then everyone else is basically beyond plebian.
What's objectively the most beautiful MH?
What's the ugliest?
beautiful: siren r
ugly: empress flame
Bang Doll
Mighty series
You bastard, I love the Mightys
Arcana Siren
Blue Knight
>What's the ugliest?
There aren't any.
I wish that were still true after the introduction of GTMs
He was asking about MHs. Even then, only Kaiserin and Merrowra are ugly. The rest are fine.
I like Kaiserin...
But then I also hated Empress Flame and consider Kaiserin a substantial upgrade.
How powerful are MHs actually supposed to be? I've started reading the manga recently and it doesn't really do the best job of conveying things like speed during action scenes so far.
all MHs use ezlaser engines, which all have the same output of around 1 and a half trillion horsepower, MH power can be raised by adding more ezlaser engines (LED mirage has one in each calf)
in terms of destructive power, im pretty sure that the jagd mirage can blow up half a planet in one shot, and the KOG can blow up a quarter of a planet, though i may be wrong about that.
as for speed, they can likely travel at high speeds with flight units, though they're more focused on endurance and long-term deployments as a MH can run for 60+ hours (as shown in the prologue). some MHs, however, are shown to be capable of teleportation (rainbow boowrays during the hagooda conflict)
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